U should be held accountable for voting in useless politicians who make rules that put healthcare workers on impossible situations. Maybe work in healthcare for one day and see how easy it is.
I have an adult child with a psychotic disorder. He spent many years in a group home where he received support and although everything wasn't always perfect, he was basically safe. But, his now ex-girlfriend's family talked him into applying for his own guardianship. He was evaluated by an unfamiliar psychologist once, an unfamiliar social worker a couple of times, and was judged to be competent to live on his own by a judge not a mental health specialist. Since that time he has been homeless, and in and out of jails as well as psych units. He doesn't take his meds, gets in fights, becomes delusional, and at times doesn't know who he is. I blame this on our broken mental health system and the fact that non-medical people like judges, social workers, and psychologists (they are PHDs not MDs) make medical decisions.
I’m sorry that you can’t get him the help he needs. I’ve dealt with a very similar situation with a family member. It sounds like you’ve done your best and when that’s not enough you just have to find solace knowing that you did what you could. 😎✌🏼
It kind of sucks both ways. Cause there might of been a part of him that wanted to be “free” of the system he was in, so the advice from his ex-gfs family gave him the confidence to get guardianship. Obviously I don’t know, and I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t be allowed to be “free” in society, but my close friend and brother both have psychotic disorders. My friend ended up being killed by police and my brother is actually doing very well after being discharged.
He's an adult and you've done all you can. He wanted out and he took that safety away from himself. He still doesn't have to fight or do things that make him end up in jail. Those are still his choices regardless of his disorder.
i would rather a psychologist evaluate me than an md because psychologists have specialized training that goes beyond just a phd and mds don’t study psychology?? and mds aren’t inherently superior to phds….i get the frustration but that last point seems to come from misunderstanding the education and training process for psychologists and medical doctors 😅
My aunt has paranoid schizophrenia. Sometimes I worry that she’s over medicated but then I remember that before she was diagnosed, she would hear voices telling her to hurt people and instead, she would run away from home and was usually found on farmland or far away from other people. I’m glad she never hurt anyone, and wish that all people who are suffering with mental illnesses were able to get the care they need.
Yes, it can be very bad,this hallucinations. You(or me, in this case) believe that my neighbors go after me, and want kill me. You go on the streets, and think people want you dead. I sleep with hatchet in bed, because I worry other people know i sleeping, and go in my house, and kill me. And with medication, that's...I think not only medication help, that was start, but psychotherapy and good life conditions are important too. Psychotherapy not heal this, obviously, but can help with.. I tell awareness, and doctor see how are you and how you feel.
I think people who are delusional and potentially a threat to society or themselves! should be forced their medication! Yes even against their will! If this had been the case My Beautiful Mother who had schizoaffective disorder would still be Alive and Well. She was so sick she refused all medicine's and our lack of Help for people with Mental health problems failed her miserably!!! She passed away well in a psychiatric facility. And til this day My family and me do not know if she did it to herself or her voilent roommate did it! But she had a plastic medicine cup lodged so far down her throat that even the emt/paramedics didnt see it and neither did the Hospital! They tried to intubate her and couldnt so instead they did an emergency tracheotomy ( i believe that's what its called) when they cut into your neck to make an airway. anyways she had been without oxygen for well over 20 minutes and had global hypoxia and her brain was extremely swollen. She was brain dead unfortunately and my family and me waited weeks but nothing, so they all decided against my will to take her off of life support. She was 43 years yound! I was 20 and heart broken to say the least.
@@daviddaddy 4/30/23 I agree with you about medication and lack of care for mental health issues. Truly sorry for what an awful experience you had to endure re: not knowing. May your Mom rip🌹
@@erikamccarthy1457 Thank you so much! I truly appreciate your kind words. May you have a wonderful and blessed day! Take care and God bless you and your family.
I really hate that saying "she was in the wrong place at the wrong time" Emily was where she was meant to be, playing in a park. My thoughts to Emily's family💖
its the english language..get over it..its an adage or a proverb. your signalling of virtue means abosolutly nothing beyond the stroking of your own ego. people should not have to change their language, especially when there's no ill intent, to satisfy your current mood. like just stfu. its because of people like yourself that we are in the shit. people are afraid to speak without being cancelled. basically its this...if you dont like it..dont read it. dont watch it. dont think about it. move on with your god forsaken life but DO NOT dictate to others what language they can use. F U buddy
Exactly...that phrase diminishes the ruthlessness and randomness of crimes by placing a sliver of blame on the victim. "If only they hadn't been there" why? Why don't they have a right to be in these completely normal and usually safe places at whatever time they chose? Why is it their fault a predator was there? There are wrong places and wrong times but this is definitely not one.
Her responsibility was to take her medicine period. She needs to be locked away for life. She took sweet Emily’s life, therefore she doesn’t deserve one either.
Wooow! No one disputes what she did or responsibility. But the irony of expecting the mentally ill to be...oh, I don't know... Mentally capable is always odd to me. It explains a great deal as to why we in part still have the issues. It's about the equivalent of telling someone in a wheelchair to get up and walk. When we actually start dealing with the issue then things might change. To expect ill people to use non ill judgments is futile. Actually it's crazier to me then the mentally ill. This from generations of it in my family and it being ignored. Pathetic.
@@Persephone715 the thing is, if she’s living alone she should be taking her medicine. She really did need to have someone watching her, and it’s not her fault that she wasn’t treated correctly, but she still took a life. There’s nothing to excuse killing someone, let alone a little girl, no matter how mentally I’ll you are.
@@Persephone715 mental illness explains many things and probably most cases of abuse, but explanation is not the same as excuse. If she didn’t know she was sick, hadn’t figure out she had a condition, then this would be a tragic incident caused by mental illness. She knew she needed medication, many times before this she had left the medication on her own, that is actually the equivalent of a person that could benefit of a wheel chair for mobility and refuses to use it, then doesn’t function while having the possibility of using a mobility aid. Nobody is expecting this person to walk normally, but there are accommodations and for mental illness, that accommodation is treatment. We all need accountability, in this case she is totally responsible because she was aware of what she needed to do and had already seen that not taking her medication made her violent.
A PARANOID schizophrenic person isn’t going to take their medication. If she was capable of being responsible of taking the meds, she wouldn’t be subjected to forced injections. It’s beyond tragic what happened, but she clearly didn’t have the capacity to be responsible of her medicine intake.
@@mnisou19 Wtf does that even mean? A doctor can clarify the killing of innocent people and children? You should see a psychiatrist for your views stat.
How could it not be premeditated when she went to the store to buy knives first and literally said _"I waited in a park and picked my victim"_ ? She literally *_told them_* it was premeditated. And she knew what she did was wrong, she ran away from the scene. Diminished responsibility feels like bull, when she knowingly refused her medication. She should be held fully responsible, when she had prior instances of attacking her family and knew what would happen if she didn't take her meds. People always want to make excuses for killers.
She bought the knives before she went to the park, that shows she clearly wanted to kill somebody with those knives. It wasn't just a sudden psychotic episode.
The English are dumb concerning Mental Health. The Funny Farms existed for a reason. Fuck this vermin. It's one thing to be harmlessly mentally ill. There are many of us out there. It's another for it to naturally turn someone to violence. I don't know about anyone else but, something that can't help but, hurting someone out of their own control is worse than any Psychopath. There are even Psychpaths that act more human in comparison.
The victim may not have been predetermined, but this crime was. Not only did she willingly choose to not take her antipsychotics, she made the decision to purchase the knives, she made the decision to kill, she was aiming at a specific spot, and once she was done, ran away from the scene. This beast was in full control of her actions, she was fully aware of herself. She’s not a schizophrenic, she’s a psychopath. A schizophrenic person with any semblance of a conscience would have broken down once they returned to reality and realized what they had done. Her? She acted as though she had done nothing wrong. She planned all of this out, and when that failed, she went with plan B. She doesn’t need a hospital room, she needs solitary confinement. I said what I said. The system failed everyone this woman has hurt. They failed Emily. And unless things change, this WILL happen again.
Also they're usually non-violent! These cases make the disorder look sooo much worse and perpetuate a dangerous stereotype that society already has about it
This one hits hard. I have an Emily and just imagining something like this happening to my child,or any child, had me in tears. What a senseless loss, and its criminal that this crime was deemed "manslaughter". God bless this child in heaven and her parents with strenth to live with their horrific loss. 🙏 😪
I don't waste my votes and voting "for" anything illegal is a waste. What I would vote for is stricter punishment for repeat offenders. That's what would have made a difference in this case.
I really think for people who refuse to take the medication and commit horrible crimes like this should be held responsible for their actions!!! She knew she was going to kill someone that day and that is premeditated . I’m truly sorry for this little girl and her family, I can’t imagine the grief they must feel every day caused by such a horrible woman.
Yep, and let's be real, that little girl was her target from the beginning. They really went to bat for this woman and did their best to not get justice for that little girl. I'd be a horrible defense attorney, because my moral compass would get me fired.
You don't know what mentally ill means let's think another person's shoes for once in your lifetime. Think like this today you are mentally retarded. Now get yourself medicated retard! You might think, that being mentally retarded makes it hard to take medication and be responsible, that is a part of what mental retardation means. It seems to you then, people don't understand what mental retardation does to the mind for them to say, you need to be responsible. That you right now, not really understanding what it means to mentally ill and then saying why can't you a cripple walk up the stairs!
I think people who are delusional and potentially a threat to society or themselves! should be forced their medication! Yes even against their will! If this had been the case My Beautiful Mother who had schizoaffective disorder would still be Alive and Well. She was so sick she refused all medicine's and our lack of Help for people with Mental health problems failed her miserably!!! She passed away well in a psychiatric facility. And til this day My family and me do not know if she did it to herself or her voilent roommate did it! But she had a plastic medicine cup lodged so far down her throat that even the emt/paramedics didnt see it and neither did the Hospital! They tried to intubate her and couldnt so instead they did an emergency tracheotomy ( i believe that's what its called) when they cut into your neck to make an airway. anyways she had been without oxygen for well over 20 minutes and had global hypoxia and her brain was extremely swollen. She was brain dead unfortunately and my family and me waited weeks but nothing, so they all decided against my will to take her off of life support. She was 43 years yound! I was 20 and heart broken to say the least.
@@daviddaddy forcing people to take meds is the perfect way to make people stop taking those meds once youre not supervising them. if you want a patient to take their meds you need to find a reasoning that makes them want to take it for themselves, otherwise once you leave there is no reason to take it for them. her care seemed very restrictive and its clear at some point she was willing to partially engage with mental health professionals as she displayed her dislike for the injections. it seems at some point she lost trust in them and kinda discharged herself. her care being so strict is probably what led to this, it pissed her off because it wasn't guidance it was domination. and people mentally ill or not never act well after being overpowered.
Ik right and the judge that says it wasn't are idiots like you can't tell me it's not premeditated when a psychopathic bitch like her admitted to killing a child
agreed and it is such a sad thing to have to bear witness let alone what the family must endure for the rest there lives now cuz this and the fact that the person could potentially be released is a atrocity .. peace and love stay safe
Agreed. I don't care what mental state someone is in, and I don't care what mental complications they face; the fact of the matter is that she murdered a tiny little girl. When someone commits a murder like this, against an innocent child who was no threat to them, they need to be held accountable. Period.
I am sorry but she chose not to take her medication, she should never be allowed release. She’s already shown she can’t be trusted to take her meds. Whether in prison or psychiatric hospital!
@RandomUA-camGuy on the other hand, mentally ill people are just much more likely to harm themselves than other people so u have a point 😂 the topic of whether or not someone should be forced by the gov/some authority to take psych meds is a tricky one… it’s tough to balance the strict laws around bodily autonomy with the potential someone has to do harm and what can be done legally to prevent said harm. even tho i think the possible discomfort or harm that is done to a person by forcibly medicating them for the sake of safety will always be less than the harm done by taking a life so…. food for thought 😅
@RandomUA-camGuy He never said that they would. He was talking about this woman specifically. Regardless how sick she is, she’s obviously extremely dangerous and should never be released into the public again. It might not be her fault but it CERTAINLY wasn’t the little girls fault either.
It's pretty common for someone suffering from delusions to not take their meds due to their condition.. they believe they don't need it, or they believe there's a nefarious reason people are making them take them ect. The fact she was violent before and known to not be capable of taking her meds properly means they should have either kept her in, or given her daily support to ensure she was supervised taking her meds.
I live in the UK and remember this case. Who doesn't have a leisure walk in the park on a weekend? I was concerned about walking in the park for a while after this. It was just a random and senseless attack. Her poor parents! I can't imagine how they can go through this hell.
Another well told Horrible story. Thanks for your hard work and always telling the victims story and telling the consequences that the horrific murder will see. God bless Emily 💕💕💕💕
_rest in paradise to this poor angel. It makes me sick to my stomach how a child isn’t even safe playing at the park. Just imagine…a complete stranger doing this for no reason. You think if you stay away from bad ppl and places you’re safe. Not even true. Really makes my stomach sick for the parents. May God hold them close._
I remember this case well, it happened when I had a double celebration, my birthday & mothers day. If you look at 95% of cases in the UK that were reported on mainstream media, you'll see that they were pretty much all preventable, the Arianna Grande concert was & nearly every brutal murder. The government, doctors, police etc have records on these individuals, they've been flagged as dangerous etc & nothing is done. Then we have pathetic sentencing & often they're released with a whole new identity & they have protection. It makes me sick to my stomach.
This happened in my local park 😭I remember getting a call from a friend that was in the park and had witnessed the aftermath - I thought she was exaggerating. I thought she'd just fallen and had been badly injured, but no, sadly not. I rarely to there now and especially not in that path. Devastating
I just wanted to add to this that there was an inquiry into failings in that monsters care from the nhs. They did find problems but as always, it it's never their fault.
@@JamieBB1753 She was a very dangerous woman, who should have never been allowed to stay in this country,that poor little girl killed for just being in the park,GOD BLESS THIS FAMILY. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wait, she wasn't even in a locked unit? Having worked at a psychiatric facility, I can say, truthfully, patients have been placed on the locked unit for reasons much, much, less severe. Physical safety for the patient, staff, and other patients is a priority and any threats to that, verbal or nonverbal, are constantly being assessed and adressed.
I will also say this. Being someone with bipolar schizoaffective disorder I could never imagine hurting someone like this on purpose. I regularly monitor and treat my condition. This murder could have been prevented in my opinion. I know how to recognize the signs in myself if I’m having an episode and know how to ask for help. Also, if they would have kept track of her and treated her like they were supposed to this wouldn’t have happened. She should have been in a facility if she was violent.
You are not her. Getting quite tired of one size fits all. Good for you. Everyone is different and it's time we recognize that. No one shares the same body chemistry, immune system, brain functions and a million other things. As a society we need to address each case. It's not any different in this as it is when I address each animal with treatment in my practice.
@@Persephone715 And I'm getting tired of reactionary comments like yours. She's not saying it isn't a case by case issue. She's saying that it's not an excuse or reason to murder. And she is correct. You're triggered because you probably have issues yourself and want to make excuses
@@Persephone715 while this is true, he stated in the video that she had a record of not taking her medicine. The doctors should have seen that and done literally ANYTHING but trust her to take her medicine when they knew she didn’t.
@@Gore-Labs My brother was not particularly violent but he was extremely delusional, schizophrenia, and was doing drugs. We wanted him to be held and forced to take meds. but when they are adults there's really nothing you can do. They don't care until they hurt someone. He was escalating and we were afraid for him and others. It's such a sad situation, and also can end in tragedy.😞
You do a wonderful job of highlighting the life and loss of the victims of these cases. Unlike others who focus so much on the crimes and the perpetrators that it feels like the victims were just an afterthought. Good for you, and your work!
They failed this beautiful baby girl, I just can’t understand how they didn’t hold her responsible for harming such a precious child 😢 this makes me honestly so mad man . She KNEW she was going to hurt someone that’s all they need ! It’s just so upsetting they failed this child I can’t believe how they just dismissed her charges 😢 keep her locked away 😢
"she will still be under supervision for life" in the event she ends up getting released early for good behavior, i highly doubt it. Technically she was under supervision before she killed the girl and she proved to be non compliant with her medication/therapy. So she'll essentially get released and potentially fall through the cracks and hurt someone else again.
When the Officer had her in the police car, he asked her what was in her bag. She stated her and her Mom’s ID, a knife, juice, and water. The Officer asked her if there was anything in her bag that would hurt him and she stated no and then he said ok and shut the door. Hello!! She has a knife!! 🤦♀️🤦♀️
No, that sounded like sarcasm from the cop. When she listed the contents, he said, "So nothing in there going to hurt me, huh...." Sounded like sarcasm to me.
I took that as, the officer heard her say, ‘a knife,’ and he asked, ‘so nothing in there is going to hurt me?’ more as a confirmation that a knife was actually in there, cuz a knife is well known to cause harm. So more of a confirmation than sarcasm or he didn’t hear it.
Not too certain about how the process works, but you can see that she doesn't have the bag on her in the arrest footage, meaning the police had already confiscated it. I have a feeling that the cop's "nothing in there is going to hurt me" was more about if the bag was boobytrapped, or otherwise able to cause harm when searched. A knife inside a bag isn't on that level, especially after the police became aware that there's a sharp object inside the bag. It's like when you're washing the dishes and you know that a kitchen knife is sitting somewhere under the soapy water. You're gonna be a bit more careful when searching for it, and you're gonna avoid touching the blade.
I think the real key fact is that when she was in the right state of mind, she chose to stop using her meds. That is negligence. Her negligence caused this.
She killed the girl knowingly out of the fascination and interest in killing someone, anyone, that she can easily kill. Then, run away as fast as she can, which tells you, she knows what she had done.
@@luc1ferblack doctors make mistakes, police are biased, and psychopaths are psychopaths. Mental illness doesn’t excuse murder and a lifetime of violent tendencies anymore than a bottle of beer excuses killing a family of 4 in a head on collision.
@@Diamonds_dime so what? Its still murder, premeditated murder at that. Its disgusting she gets away with brutally murdering an innocent 7 year old that she had never even met before, she clearly planned it and clearly knew it was wrong by the way she hid everything and tried to run away. She's a murderer and deserves to be locked up til she dies.
Just bring back institutionalisation for these dangerous people. That level of unpredictability and cruelty really warrants life under close monitoring to make sure there are no more missed meds.
@@ShermThursbyactually it was because of the terrible conditions that were being suffered by patients in places like Pennhurst Asylum and the disproportional number of personal to patients- but go off.
1) institutions never helped anyone ever, they just bred abuse and violence and sexual assault from the guards and staff 2) there are A LOT of people with mental illness who have the capability of being violent due to their illness. That does not mean they are dangerous people. With the right treatment, they're most often upstanding members of society and you'd never know. 3) you don't need to be in patient to be monitored and made sure you're following your treatment plan. The problem isn't the mentally ill, even the violent and possibly dangerous ones. The problem is a shitty Healthcare system that doesn't actually care about the patient or those they may affect. None of this would have happened if this woman got the proper out patient care she needed. Why exactly she didn't is anyone's guess, so many fall through the cracks, but institutionalization of people who are violent or dangerous when off meds, who are taking their meds properly, is not the answer and never will be.
In Australia we have something called a community treatment order. Every 2 weeks, a health professional will visit these people to check on them and most of the time administer a medication that lasts for the next 2 weeks. The UK must have something like this.
I’m just tired of EVERYTHING being blamed on mental illness. Very few are so far into a delusional state that they do not have the concept of right and wrong. Even those who supposedly “snapped” Too many excuses and not enough responsibility.
Children being murdered is already so tragic enough in any sense of the word. They didn’t even get the chance to really live out their own lives to the fullest. My sympathies and condolences to the victim’s family and friends.
@@paulo7507 well if you want to really go down that rabbit hole, all life is meaningless. The definition of live is meaningless. It's all just quantum interactions that form pretty patterns.
This is why I don't see a point to rehabilitation for certain people. If she was either locked up for life given her condition or just executed, this poor little girl would still be alive. NONE of this would have happened
Like he said, there’s absolutely no excuse for what this woman did do a defenseless child. But as someone with bipolar schizophrenia, which is nowhere near as severe as paranoid schizophrenia to this extent, cases like these always leave me feeling hollow and sad. I know how easy it is for someone with a psychotic disorder to distrust medicine and slide down that slippery slope of purposefully not taking antipsychotics. When I was first diagnosed, I was combative and fought at every turn to take my medication, if I didn’t have the amazing support system I do with my family, friends, and doctors, I don’t want to think about what I could have done. Psychotic disorders are a lifelong struggle that never ends. Mental health awareness needs to be better across the whole world.
Yup. It's a bit of a double edged sword. The people who most need help are those that most distrust it. I've been in that situation and I'm only lucky that my delusions were actually able to be disproven.
I've worked with a few adults who were found guilty of horrible crimes but on the grounds of diminished capacity due to mental illness. I see them after they are back in the community. Treatment and support make a massive difference for a lot of them.
Proud of you for turning it around! My mental illnesses are different but I've been close to people with similar diagnoses so I've seen the struggle. I can't imagine how hard that is first hand, as someone that was gunho for treatment, but I know it's far from easy. Mental illness isn't our fault, but it is our responsibility. Taking that responsibility can be one of the hardest and bravest thing that people do.
this will never feel fair no matter what happens to that woman, taking a life is unforgivable, taking a child's life is beyond words can describe at how awful it is
This was so preventable, the people who treated her should be held accountable, she should have been in a group setting forever, she was not competent enough to manage her meds. Dime a dozen.
The Home Office, medical and judicial authorities have all failed and precious Emily & her family have paid a terrible price; she has not received justice.
Killed a little girl on mother’s day. Mommy issues. She was in a foul mood that day and wanted to hurt someone. Probably watched the little girl interacting with her family and got jealous.
I have a brother, an aunt and 2 friends who are paranoid schizophrenics. My aunt got hep in her 30’s and lives in a group home. One of my friends has been in a group home for over 30 yrs and is doing well. The other friend is suffering, having troubles with getting the right meds. My brother didn’t get diagnosed until in his 40’s. He’d take his meds until he was feeling ok then, stop taking them because he “felt better”. Terrible circle.
It's a terrible cycle for sure, & one we see time & time again. They feel like they're doing so much better & so they stop taking the medications that are making them that way. I wonder of it's a kind of denial or something? Like maybe they think they are cured rather than it just being kept in check or something. Idk. It's very sad though.
@@quicksilverlacey i agree, i think it also comes from a lack of proper explanation or education about the meds and how they work. once i was taught how and why my meds work it changed how i thought about them.
James I’m so glad to see this channel is about to hit 800k subscribers 🎉 next stop 1 million & you (& your team, if there is one) deserve ALL the success that the channel is generating!! ❤ Thanks for all hard work, it’s much appreciated.
@@DG-kv3qi and the fact that you say what on Earth is that username like you don't know what it means. It literally says Cali girl living in Nevada. Can you not read? Out of all the weird usernames that commented on this video you choose this one to single out 😆😆 okay CHILD 🤠 go do your homework or something 😆😆
Sad and horrible case. I am glad Tony got her, most people would never do that. I hope Mr and Mrs Jones are are okay now, sad yes. But I hope they know that Emily will always be in their hearts and watching over them.
This would have killed me if it happened to my children. What's so sad is the parents were attentive and this still happened. I just can't imagine how much those poor parents suffered from losing their young daughter. RIP
I hate to say it, but in IMO they weren't attentive enough toward their only child.... The Mom was no where near her daughter, running, with ear buds in her ears, & couldn't hear her daughter, when she called out to her. Yes the Mother apparently completely entrusted her daughter to her Father's care, since she was actually, actively blocking out sensory input, with her distance, & ear buds. She was essentially making herself inaccessible, if either the Father or the child needed to get her attention. The Father was not being attentive "enough" either, as he let his daughter run after her Mother, & let her get too far away. He was not in close enough proximity to protect his only child from harm. The daughter also, apparently did not feel close enough to her Father to run to him, for him to meet her needs in that moment, even though he was the one who was apparently more "available". Not saying this to judge, as someone with a superior attitude, because I'm not a perfect parent, & have made plenty of my own mistakes parenting. So I can say this based on what I've learned through experience & observation, & what I've learned from my own mistakes. And the woman who murdered that child, in my opinion got off way too easy, mentally ill or not. Personally I think she was both a violent psychopath,(who lacked both a conscience, or remorse), & a schizophrenic. I think she premeditated murdering someone, & was using her schizophrenic "diagnosis", as an excuse to act out her violent tendencies, knowing it "protect" her from the full consequences of her actions. At least in this side of life...
@SplitFeather Zephier Even if the dad was holding her hand, with how quickly this happened, the result would have been about the same. This entire comment sounds like you are blaming the parents for something this monster disguised as a woman did. The mother went for some " her time", and the father was within range (typical for the park). Parents shouldn't have to be holding their 7 year olds in their arms for psychopaths to leave them alone.
@@KettleBlacktheBat + Think what you want. I can't stop you. And I feel I explained myself pretty well. Parents watching this video, might learn a thing or 2 from it, is all I'm saying...
if you have an illness that if you don't take the meds the side effects could be murder, or harm to yourself and others, there should be a law in place to have a nurse, caregiver, guardian, something in order to administer dosages. it is a person who needs aid. Mental illness is invisible but that doesnt mean its not serious. It never gets handled appropiately. That poor child, this could have been prevented.
I went through some EXTREMELY difficult times with my daughter last year. Self harm, talking about wanting to "be gone", destroying things in our home, ect. I couldn't get help for her anywhere. She refused to attend counseling. (which I tried more times than I can keep track of to get her to go. I made TONS of appointments). I reached out to her school, guidance counselor, family doctor/her endocrinologist, and several visits to the E.R. I even called the police a few times. I could not get her any help whatsoever! Our mental health system is fractured!
I know this happened a while ago but I wanted to say May this beautiful innocent young child Rest In Peace May her beloved friends and family find healing and peace I’m sorry this evil came your way little one
Imagine living in a county and someone illegal brakes in and is rewarded with money, place to live, free medical treatment, food,etc. And then murders a little girl....and again is rewarded with a free place to live, food, medical, etc for 10 years.....then she will be released...What a F-ed up world we live in.
I couldn't ever begin to imagine this happening. I have lots of family near the park in Bolton and I've been myself and of all the things this woman could do, she took a family's baby away. How horrific to just cut a kids throat. Horrific human being she is..
The effects of schizophrenia is worse if you suddenly stop your meds than if you never ever took meds . How I know my mum was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia back in 1981 and every time she suddenly stop her meds , she would be out of control .
This happened close to where I live!! So so sad I cant even comprehend how her parents must be feeling to lose their only child in such A vile way. I hope they keep her locked away forever. I have an adult Daughter who suffers with A whole range of mental illnesses including psychosis & she has never harmed A fly because she is medicated now if she refused to take them & became unwell & did anything to anyone I would want her to be placed into A secure hospital for her own safety & the safety of others. Rest in heavenly peace little Emily
This was horrible I remember this here. They keep letting these crazies in our country. There is no supervision here I’ve worked in home care. It’s despicable the authorities and facilities allow this. Poor Emily. 😢 she should of been kept out or locked up way before this. This was murder and them saying anything else is injustice to Emily.
I love about an hour away from Bolton, and I didn't hear this. Because the day after the world went I to lockdown. Those poor parents would have been so alone and isolated whilst grieving the loss of their daughter in such a horrific way.
May she rest in peace, and please lock that woman away for life as we don't need more people or children to die .May the family get justice. As well as closer.
Hi👋This is such a horrendous, senseless, & incomprehensible murder. I appreciate you included Emily’s characteristics, and positive memories she and her parents had, and I’m also glad that you included some of what Emily’s father/parents said. (overall so much focus is on the murderer & most victims are forgotten about, but I’ve noticed a good “trend” over the last year or so, it at least feels like more and more true crime channels are changing that, and I don’t know what to say - I mean the best would be a world without heinous crimes, but such a world doesn’t exist,- and have never existed.) Thanks for your time and effort, you’re a very likable UA-camr 🐾✨
I was admitted against my will several times. They drugged me up and discharged me without me cooperating with any of the group activities or individual therapy. After they released me I had no way to get my medication as appointments with psychiatrists were out by ay least 3 months. No matter where you are people with severe mental illnesses are constantly being brushed aside and Unfortunately in this case and many others it amounted to a life lost for no reason. I was lucky enough after 30 years to find a psychiatrist who really cared and took her job seriously. Not all of us get that lucky
@@DG-kv3qi _you must be bored. English isn’t everyone’s first language and you can clearly understand what they said. Imagine sitting under a video about a murdered child, worrying about someone’s grammar. Insane._
It's so sad hearing about a child being murdered!!! This happened to a friend of mine when she also was 7, I was 9... It was in Claymont, DE March 1990, I still remember the guys name from the newspaper Joseph DeShields... Then I checked online and saw Joseph Shields but this guy also had a history of mental health and he was 18 at the time got 18yrs in a mental hospital... My friend's name was Brenda Coxe... I just despise ppl that do stuff to little kids
This was premeditated, and this “diminished responsibility” is a load of crock! She was FULLY aware of what she intended to do, because SHE had gone and bought the knives, and SHE refused to take her oral medication for a month before she took Emily’s life senselessly!! She might have paranoid schizophrenia, but she knew EXACTLY what she was doing, and she attempted to get away with it, but thank God for the hero, Tony, who chased and tackled her! Every single “medical” profession, and whomever else truly and horrifically dropped the ball in this case! They KNEW that she had already REFUSED to take her oral medication while she was in the mental hospital, but they ALLOWED her to “escape” without a single consequence, and they ALLOWED her to go back into society on her “word” that she’d take her oral medicine. Since she CLEARLY lied about her “promise” to take her oral medication, then that, right there, SHOULD have proven that she’ll LIE to get out of being responsible for anything. May God have Mercy on society if and when she’s allowed to live freely in society, because she’ll probably be sent to a town under an assumed name. May Emily rest peacefully in her eternal slumber.
Nobody has even commented on the fact this woman shouldn't have even been in our country to begin with. How she was allowed to stay knowing she was an illegal immigrant, violent history, mental health problems & refused to take her medication. Now we've got to foot the bill for her healthcare after she's murdered this beautiful little girl & soon she'll be walking our streets again. Unbelievable
It doesn't bear thinking about. As a parent I cannot comprehend the sheer panic of losing your child in such a horrific, unimaginable way. Powerless to stop it. Powerless to save her. No parent should ever have to go through something like that. RIP sweet Emily. My heart truly goes out to Mark and Sarah and their families.
I once was having a conversation with some friends and some random woman that I had never seen in my entire life walked right up to me and sucker punched me in my face. When I asked her why she did it she said, "Because I don't like you." With a crazed look in her eyes. You never know when you can cross paths with these types of people. Mental illness is real. If you have these conditions please don't be selfish and not take your meds. Not every brain works the same and some need assistance to function correctly.
Some people need to be kept out of society for their entire lives. If a person who needs medication refuses to take it; we need to take charge. These persons have proven they are not responsible. Instead they bounce in and out of A&E, causing chaos to themselves, family and people at large.
That poor little girl must have been terrified 💔 and I can only imagine how hard it must have been for the parents to not only see this unfold and lose their precious daughter, but also have the criminal get off so easily and without reason. As a mother of an only child I can empathize because the one person that brings so much joy and happiness is cruelly taken from you it's just so heartbreaking. I send nothing but love to the parents, family and friends 🕊️🕯️🌹💕
My ex boyfriend and my father are paranoid schizophrenics. The things that they believe are often confusing and terrifying and the worst part for them is that no one believes that they're God/the chosen one/a superhero/whatever they feel they are and they are accused of having a mental illness. Just today I was emailing with my ex(he cannot have my phone number anymore!) and he spent a great deal of time talking about how hurt he is that I would accuse him of being schizophrenic! According to him his spiritual guide Desura has just helped him ascend and soon he will win approximately 43 million dollars from the lotto. Luckily for society he's not the violent sort. My father is violent though and tbh even though he needs to be committed and forced on meds I don't want to provoke him into coming after me. He sees family members as a threat and I wouldn't put it past him to hurt me, my sister, my niece, literally anyone if the voices in his head think we're threatening him. This is why people like Eltiona end up committing crimes like this. No one wants to be the sacrificial lamb to be abused.
I’m so sick of people using their mental health issues as a crutch to justify committing crimes…if you have a diagnosis and have prescribed medication; it’s your responsibility to take that medication! In my opinion she is 100% guilty of murder, she refused treatment for her illness, she bought the pack of knives and went to the park to search for a victim…just because a killer doesn’t have a specific victim in mind, doesn’t mean they don’t have the intention to kill at all
I suffer with the same mental illness. I told my therapist that I’m going to come off my meds. She didn’t care. I had nothing from the mental health department. I would say that they let that woman down big time and they will do the same thing when she’s out again. If they kept a closer eye on that woman then maybe just maybe that sweet little girl would still be here. Shame that the mental health services are not held accountable also.
Although critically underfunded the mental health system let this little girl down by not exercising their due diligence in the case of this woman who must never be allowed to roam free again. Despite her illness, I do believe the murder was premediated as there was planning involved. RIP sweet Emily. My deepest condolences to her family and friends.
She could have believed that she needed to carry the knives for protection. As a schizophrenic I have felt the need to protect myself. And an episode can last for days, weeks or months. There is an overlying illness that makes mentally ill people believe they are not sick but if she was not diagnosed with the overlying illness then she should have been managing her illness. At the same time, it's terribly difficult for some people to manage their illness. I can have really heavy episodes however I do not find it difficult to understand that my medication is helping me. Sometimes the paranoia makes people believe doctors are actually out to hurt them. I've seen it in the psychiatric hospitals, the voices and paranoia convince them they are being killed slowly, being experimented on etc. I'm just fortunate to be able to take my meds and get better but it's not like that for others and it's really sad and scary to see.
She didn't buy those knives out of fear....I think the murder of that child should tip you off to that. Maybe in your case, but in THIS case, she had murder on her mind and ran away when she did it. Running away shows she knows it was wrong. She planned it and did it.
One of the biggest problems with mental health care in general is personal autonomy. Where do you draw the line? Some people don’t want treatment, do we force treatment? That takes away the persons right to autonomy. Court ordered treatment is a thing but it’s very conditional.
She was so lucky to be able to receive those injections. They keep psychosis at bay and are one of the best anti psychotic treatments available. So many people in the US don’t have access to these injections and it’s sad as schizophrenics are known for not being med compliant. The injections saved my life. I nearly died on multiple occasions from suicide until the injections stopped my symptoms. I take the oral medication now and have been med compliant for years. It’s very sad what mental illness does to families if untreated.
"Was this preventative? Maybe...maybe not" It was 100% preventable, if she'd been locked in an asylum after refusing medication the first time. Or even better, sent back when her illegal immigrant status was revealed.
It's cases like this that make me wish they would reinstate asylums. Letting people with mental health issues like this wander around loose is frightening and it can be extremely dangerous.
Here's the thing: you cannot lock up someone for refusing to take prescribed medication. You can ask them to take it, but you can't forcibly medicate someone who has capacity and it's not a life-saving measure. The idea that we should 'lock in an asylum' anyone who refuses their medication would quickly result in overflow of every mental health facility we have. Not to mention - did you take every antibiotic you had last time you were ill? Thought not. Should we lock you up, then? The biggest predictor of violence for mental health services is a history of violent episodes. I don't in any way condone her acts, but given that all the doctors and professionals have to go on is past behaviour, they couldn't have predicted violence against a stranger.
Sending her back would only mean some other person or even child would have taken their place, she was a ticking time-bomb no matter where she were if she didn't get locked up in an institution for being dangerous.
Whoever signed her discharge papers should be held accountable.
Why? They couldn't see the future and its definitely isn't their fault. They were just following protocol.
Also whoever didn’t deport her illegal ass.
U should be held accountable for voting in useless politicians who make rules that put healthcare workers on impossible situations. Maybe work in healthcare for one day and see how easy it is.
@@pillowcoach-inspireyoursle9836 I’ve had a very successful medical career for 23 years.
@Minini I'm in psych & I'm positive u don't know what you're talking about.
I have an adult child with a psychotic disorder. He spent many years in a group home where he received support and although everything wasn't always perfect, he was basically safe. But, his now ex-girlfriend's family talked him into applying for his own guardianship. He was evaluated by an unfamiliar psychologist once, an unfamiliar social worker a couple of times, and was judged to be competent to live on his own by a judge not a mental health specialist. Since that time he has been homeless, and in and out of jails as well as psych units. He doesn't take his meds, gets in fights, becomes delusional, and at times doesn't know who he is. I blame this on our broken mental health system and the fact that non-medical people like judges, social workers, and psychologists (they are PHDs not MDs) make medical decisions.
I’m sorry that you can’t get him the help he needs. I’ve dealt with a very similar situation with a family member. It sounds like you’ve done your best and when that’s not enough you just have to find solace knowing that you did what you could. 😎✌🏼
@@daveatkins3568 exactly that
It kind of sucks both ways. Cause there might of been a part of him that wanted to be “free” of the system he was in, so the advice from his ex-gfs family gave him the confidence to get guardianship.
Obviously I don’t know, and I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t be allowed to be “free” in society, but my close friend and brother both have psychotic disorders.
My friend ended up being killed by police and my brother is actually doing very well after being discharged.
He's an adult and you've done all you can. He wanted out and he took that safety away from himself. He still doesn't have to fight or do things that make him end up in jail. Those are still his choices regardless of his disorder.
i would rather a psychologist evaluate me than an md because psychologists have specialized training that goes beyond just a phd and mds don’t study psychology?? and mds aren’t inherently superior to phds….i get the frustration but that last point seems to come from misunderstanding the education and training process for psychologists and medical doctors 😅
My aunt has paranoid schizophrenia. Sometimes I worry that she’s over medicated but then I remember that before she was diagnosed, she would hear voices telling her to hurt people and instead, she would run away from home and was usually found on farmland or far away from other people. I’m glad she never hurt anyone, and wish that all people who are suffering with mental illnesses were able to get the care they need.
Yes, it can be very bad,this hallucinations. You(or me, in this case) believe that my neighbors go after me, and want kill me. You go on the streets, and think people want you dead. I sleep with hatchet in bed, because I worry other people know i sleeping, and go in my house, and kill me. And with medication, that's...I think not only medication help, that was start, but psychotherapy and good life conditions are important too. Psychotherapy not heal this, obviously, but can help with.. I tell awareness, and doctor see how are you and how you feel.
I think people who are delusional and potentially a threat to society or themselves! should be forced their medication! Yes even against their will! If this had been the case My Beautiful Mother who had schizoaffective disorder would still be Alive and Well. She was so sick she refused all medicine's and our lack of Help for people with Mental health problems failed her miserably!!! She passed away well in a psychiatric facility. And til this day My family and me do not know if she did it to herself or her voilent roommate did it! But she had a plastic medicine cup lodged so far down her throat that even the emt/paramedics didnt see it and neither did the Hospital! They tried to intubate her and couldnt so instead they did an emergency tracheotomy ( i believe that's what its called) when they cut into your neck to make an airway. anyways she had been without oxygen for well over 20 minutes and had global hypoxia and her brain was extremely swollen. She was brain dead unfortunately and my family and me waited weeks but nothing, so they all decided against my will to take her off of life support. She was 43 years yound! I was 20 and heart broken to say the least.
@@daviddaddy 4/30/23 I agree with you about medication and lack of care for mental health issues. Truly sorry for what an awful experience you had to endure re: not knowing. May your Mom rip🌹
@@erikamccarthy1457 Thank you so much! I truly appreciate your kind words. May you have a wonderful and blessed day! Take care and God bless you and your family.
I really hate that saying "she was in the wrong place at the wrong time" Emily was where she was meant to be, playing in a park. My thoughts to Emily's family💖
I also hate that saying. It gets used to much in the wrong pretexts. Please stop using that saying.
No a Monster was allowed to walk free and murder innocence ✝️💔
its the english language..get over it..its an adage or a proverb. your signalling of virtue means abosolutly nothing beyond the stroking of your own ego. people should not have to change their language, especially when there's no ill intent, to satisfy your current mood.
like just stfu. its because of people like yourself that we are in the shit. people are afraid to speak without being cancelled.
basically its this...if you dont like it..dont read it. dont watch it. dont think about it. move on with your god forsaken life but DO NOT dictate to others what language they can use. F U buddy
i really hate that saying...followed by a gay little love heart to show just how much you care. simple minded buffoon
Exactly...that phrase diminishes the ruthlessness and randomness of crimes by placing a sliver of blame on the victim. "If only they hadn't been there" why? Why don't they have a right to be in these completely normal and usually safe places at whatever time they chose? Why is it their fault a predator was there? There are wrong places and wrong times but this is definitely not one.
My God that woman ruined every last piece of life from that family! Rest peacefully little girl 😪
Her responsibility was to take her medicine period. She needs to be locked away for life. She took sweet Emily’s life, therefore she doesn’t deserve one either.
Wooow! No one disputes what she did or responsibility. But the irony of expecting the mentally ill to be...oh, I don't know... Mentally capable is always odd to me. It explains a great deal as to why we in part still have the issues. It's about the equivalent of telling someone in a wheelchair to get up and walk. When we actually start dealing with the issue then things might change. To expect ill people to use non ill judgments is futile. Actually it's crazier to me then the mentally ill. This from generations of it in my family and it being ignored. Pathetic.
@@Persephone715 the thing is, if she’s living alone she should be taking her medicine. She really did need to have someone watching her, and it’s not her fault that she wasn’t treated correctly, but she still took a life. There’s nothing to excuse killing someone, let alone a little girl, no matter how mentally I’ll you are.
@@Persephone715 thank you.
@@Persephone715 mental illness explains many things and probably most cases of abuse, but explanation is not the same as excuse. If she didn’t know she was sick, hadn’t figure out she had a condition, then this would be a tragic incident caused by mental illness. She knew she needed medication, many times before this she had left the medication on her own, that is actually the equivalent of a person that could benefit of a wheel chair for mobility and refuses to use it, then doesn’t function while having the possibility of using a mobility aid. Nobody is expecting this person to walk normally, but there are accommodations and for mental illness, that accommodation is treatment. We all need accountability, in this case she is totally responsible because she was aware of what she needed to do and had already seen that not taking her medication made her violent.
A PARANOID schizophrenic person isn’t going to take their medication. If she was capable of being responsible of taking the meds, she wouldn’t be subjected to forced injections. It’s beyond tragic what happened, but she clearly didn’t have the capacity to be responsible of her medicine intake.
I will never understand unmotivated (or poorly motivated) murder... but especially killing a small child. Makes me sick.
go to doctor then
@@mnisou19 Wtf does that even mean? A doctor can clarify the killing of innocent people and children? You should see a psychiatrist for your views stat.
I understand, I can’t fathom how anyone can hurt a child. Your first instinct is to protect children.
Especially in such a brutal fashion as slitting the throat.
They just feel like murdering someone...
How could it not be premeditated when she went to the store to buy knives first and literally said _"I waited in a park and picked my victim"_ ? She literally *_told them_* it was premeditated. And she knew what she did was wrong, she ran away from the scene. Diminished responsibility feels like bull, when she knowingly refused her medication. She should be held fully responsible, when she had prior instances of attacking her family and knew what would happen if she didn't take her meds. People always want to make excuses for killers.
You obviously don't suffer from server mental health or even know someone with terrible mental health
100% Agree 👍
Because at the time she was in a schizophrenic episode
"Feels like bull"... sounds like you're a real professional legal scholar to me! Go get em, judge.
On TV, I saw a court drama. They call it "leading question. The child sometimes is playing so the DA edits to add facts about the crime.
She bought the knives before she went to the park, that shows she clearly wanted to kill somebody with those knives. It wasn't just a sudden psychotic episode.
And she ran away. She clearly knew what she did was wrong.
Absolutely agree... 👍👍👍
You do realise episodes are not like 5 minutes long right?
Well that and the admitting that she knew what she was doing
The English are dumb concerning Mental Health. The Funny Farms existed for a reason. Fuck this vermin. It's one thing to be harmlessly mentally ill. There are many of us out there. It's another for it to naturally turn someone to violence. I don't know about anyone else but, something that can't help but, hurting someone out of their own control is worse than any Psychopath. There are even Psychpaths that act more human in comparison.
The victim may not have been predetermined, but this crime was. Not only did she willingly choose to not take her antipsychotics, she made the decision to purchase the knives, she made the decision to kill, she was aiming at a specific spot, and once she was done, ran away from the scene. This beast was in full control of her actions, she was fully aware of herself. She’s not a schizophrenic, she’s a psychopath. A schizophrenic person with any semblance of a conscience would have broken down once they returned to reality and realized what they had done. Her? She acted as though she had done nothing wrong. She planned all of this out, and when that failed, she went with plan B. She doesn’t need a hospital room, she needs solitary confinement. I said what I said. The system failed everyone this woman has hurt. They failed Emily. And unless things change, this WILL happen again.
Also they're usually non-violent! These cases make the disorder look sooo much worse and perpetuate a dangerous stereotype that society already has about it
Exactly it’s not an excuse it is a reason though very sad
Fully agree!! Give her treatment, but leave her ass locked up! She doesn't deserve freedom after the devastation she caused!
Exactly
AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. kill the fucking thing with fire, is my opinion.
This one hits hard. I have an Emily and just imagining something like this happening to my child,or any child, had me in tears. What a senseless loss, and its criminal that this crime was deemed "manslaughter". God bless this child in heaven and her parents with strenth to live with their horrific loss. 🙏 😪
Well I hope you don’t vote for illegal immigration.
I don't waste my votes and voting "for" anything illegal is a waste. What I would vote for is stricter punishment for repeat offenders. That's what would have made a difference in this case.
I really think for people who refuse to take the medication and commit horrible crimes like this should be held responsible for their actions!!! She knew she was going to kill someone that day and that is premeditated . I’m truly sorry for this little girl and her family, I can’t imagine the grief they must feel every day caused by such a horrible woman.
Yep, and let's be real, that little girl was her target from the beginning. They really went to bat for this woman and did their best to not get justice for that little girl. I'd be a horrible defense attorney, because my moral compass would get me fired.
You don't know what mentally ill means let's think another person's shoes for once in your lifetime. Think like this today you are mentally retarded. Now get yourself medicated retard! You might think, that being mentally retarded makes it hard to take medication and be responsible, that is a part of what mental retardation means. It seems to you then, people don't understand what mental retardation does to the mind for them to say, you need to be responsible. That you right now, not really understanding what it means to mentally ill and then saying why can't you a cripple walk up the stairs!
I think people who are delusional and potentially a threat to society or themselves! should be forced their medication! Yes even against their will! If this had been the case My Beautiful Mother who had schizoaffective disorder would still be Alive and Well. She was so sick she refused all medicine's and our lack of Help for people with Mental health problems failed her miserably!!! She passed away well in a psychiatric facility. And til this day My family and me do not know if she did it to herself or her voilent roommate did it! But she had a plastic medicine cup lodged so far down her throat that even the emt/paramedics didnt see it and neither did the Hospital! They tried to intubate her and couldnt so instead they did an emergency tracheotomy ( i believe that's what its called) when they cut into your neck to make an airway. anyways she had been without oxygen for well over 20 minutes and had global hypoxia and her brain was extremely swollen. She was brain dead unfortunately and my family and me waited weeks but nothing, so they all decided against my will to take her off of life support. She was 43 years yound! I was 20 and heart broken to say the least.
@@daviddaddy forcing people to take meds is the perfect way to make people stop taking those meds once youre not supervising them. if you want a patient to take their meds you need to find a reasoning that makes them want to take it for themselves, otherwise once you leave there is no reason to take it for them. her care seemed very restrictive and its clear at some point she was willing to partially engage with mental health professionals as she displayed her dislike for the injections. it seems at some point she lost trust in them and kinda discharged herself. her care being so strict is probably what led to this, it pissed her off because it wasn't guidance it was domination. and people mentally ill or not never act well after being overpowered.
Ik right and the judge that says it wasn't are idiots like you can't tell me it's not premeditated when a psychopathic bitch like her admitted to killing a child
Honestly "diminished responsibility" is such a slap in the face to the victim's family, no matter the circumstance.
agreed and it is such a sad thing to have to bear witness let alone what the family must endure for the rest there lives now cuz this and the fact that the person could potentially be released is a atrocity .. peace and love stay safe
It’s the UK we give longer prison sentences to dealers than pedos 🤷♂️ people ask for drugs kids don’t ask for ya know
@@InfiniteSoahGTACODGLITCHES sad fam unfortunately its like that in the US aswell 😔
@@mastercricket7626 pedos protect pedos aye 🤷♂️
Agreed. I don't care what mental state someone is in, and I don't care what mental complications they face; the fact of the matter is that she murdered a tiny little girl. When someone commits a murder like this, against an innocent child who was no threat to them, they need to be held accountable. Period.
She should NEVER be released from the hospital. Her family should try to get it mandated.
She shouldn’t be in a hospital, she should be in a prison. she’s been in and out of hospitals so many times that it’s laughable
@@gungalgeno-7077 she's mentally I'll. Not a criminal. She could go to an asylum where you are FORCED to stay there.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 she is a criminal considering she’s killed a child
Should of sent her back to her own country, living here illegally and tax payers paying for her
@@gungalgeno-7077
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
I am sorry but she chose not to take her medication, she should never be allowed release. She’s already shown she can’t be trusted to take her meds. Whether in prison or psychiatric hospital!
@randomyoutubeguy959in fact people with a mental illness are more likely to become victims. And medications don't magically fix you.
@RandomUA-camGuy on the other hand, mentally ill people are just much more likely to harm themselves than other people so u have a point 😂 the topic of whether or not someone should be forced by the gov/some authority to take psych meds is a tricky one… it’s tough to balance the strict laws around bodily autonomy with the potential someone has to do harm and what can be done legally to prevent said harm. even tho i think the possible discomfort or harm that is done to a person by forcibly medicating them for the sake of safety will always be less than the harm done by taking a life so…. food for thought 😅
@RandomUA-camGuy He never said that they would. He was talking about this woman specifically. Regardless how sick she is, she’s obviously extremely dangerous and should never be released into the public again.
It might not be her fault but it CERTAINLY wasn’t the little girls fault either.
@RandomUA-camGuy But she did. To keep everyone safe from her possibly killing again, she needs to remain in supervised lock down for life.
It's pretty common for someone suffering from delusions to not take their meds due to their condition.. they believe they don't need it, or they believe there's a nefarious reason people are making them take them ect.
The fact she was violent before and known to not be capable of taking her meds properly means they should have either kept her in, or given her daily support to ensure she was supervised taking her meds.
I live in the UK and remember this case. Who doesn't have a leisure walk in the park on a weekend? I was concerned about walking in the park for a while after this. It was just a random and senseless attack. Her poor parents! I can't imagine how they can go through this hell.
Another well told Horrible story. Thanks for your hard work and always telling the victims story and telling the consequences that the horrific murder will see. God bless Emily 💕💕💕💕
_rest in paradise to this poor angel. It makes me sick to my stomach how a child isn’t even safe playing at the park. Just imagine…a complete stranger doing this for no reason. You think if you stay away from bad ppl and places you’re safe. Not even true. Really makes my stomach sick for the parents. May God hold them close._
I think she knew exactly what she was doing. She was due to be deported and probably thought this is a way of stopping the deportation.
Intresting point!
this makes no sense. stopping deportation by… being locked up? even a schizophrenic would choose to just be deported.
I remember this case well, it happened when I had a double celebration, my birthday & mothers day. If you look at 95% of cases in the UK that were reported on mainstream media, you'll see that they were pretty much all preventable, the Arianna Grande concert was & nearly every brutal murder. The government, doctors, police etc have records on these individuals, they've been flagged as dangerous etc & nothing is done. Then we have pathetic sentencing & often they're released with a whole new identity & they have protection. It makes me sick to my stomach.
This happened in my local park 😭I remember getting a call from a friend that was in the park and had witnessed the aftermath - I thought she was exaggerating. I thought she'd just fallen and had been badly injured, but no, sadly not. I rarely to there now and especially not in that path. Devastating
I just wanted to add to this that there was an inquiry into failings in that monsters care from the nhs. They did find problems but as always, it it's never their fault.
@@JamieBB1753
She was a very dangerous woman, who should have never been allowed to stay in this country,that poor little girl killed for just being in the park,GOD BLESS THIS FAMILY. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Heartbreaking. I hope she's NEVER released, as I don't think she should ever be trusted.
She should have been in a Forensic Unit, which is a Locked Unit! She showed Violent Tendencies! What were they thinking???!!!
Wait, she wasn't even in a locked unit?
Having worked at a psychiatric facility, I can say, truthfully, patients have been placed on the locked unit for reasons much, much, less severe. Physical safety for the patient, staff, and other patients is a priority and any threats to that, verbal or nonverbal, are constantly being assessed and adressed.
I will also say this. Being someone with bipolar schizoaffective disorder I could never imagine hurting someone like this on purpose. I regularly monitor and treat my condition. This murder could have been prevented in my opinion. I know how to recognize the signs in myself if I’m having an episode and know how to ask for help. Also, if they would have kept track of her and treated her like they were supposed to this wouldn’t have happened. She should have been in a facility if she was violent.
Agree 💯 with you
You are not her. Getting quite tired of one size fits all. Good for you. Everyone is different and it's time we recognize that. No one shares the same body chemistry, immune system, brain functions and a million other things. As a society we need to address each case. It's not any different in this as it is when I address each animal with treatment in my practice.
@@Persephone715 And I'm getting tired of reactionary comments like yours. She's not saying it isn't a case by case issue. She's saying that it's not an excuse or reason to murder. And she is correct. You're triggered because you probably have issues yourself and want to make excuses
@@Persephone715 while this is true, he stated in the video that she had a record of not taking her medicine. The doctors should have seen that and done literally ANYTHING but trust her to take her medicine when they knew she didn’t.
@@Gore-Labs My brother was not particularly violent but he was extremely delusional, schizophrenia, and was doing drugs. We wanted him to be held and forced to take meds. but when they are adults there's really nothing you can do. They don't care until they hurt someone. He was escalating and we were afraid for him and others. It's such a sad situation, and also can end in tragedy.😞
You do a wonderful job of highlighting the life and loss of the victims of these cases. Unlike others who focus so much on the crimes and the perpetrators that it feels like the victims were just an afterthought. Good for you, and your work!
_I started watching his older videos and he didn’t really mention the victims. So it’s nice to see he changed that._
They failed this beautiful baby girl, I just can’t understand how they didn’t hold her responsible for harming such a precious child 😢 this makes me honestly so mad man . She KNEW she was going to hurt someone that’s all they need ! It’s just so upsetting they failed this child I can’t believe how they just dismissed her charges 😢 keep her locked away 😢
"she will still be under supervision for life" in the event she ends up getting released early for good behavior, i highly doubt it. Technically she was under supervision before she killed the girl and she proved to be non compliant with her medication/therapy. So she'll essentially get released and potentially fall through the cracks and hurt someone else again.
When the Officer had her in the police car, he asked her what was in her bag. She stated her and her Mom’s ID, a knife, juice, and water. The Officer asked her if there was anything in her bag that would hurt him and she stated no and then he said ok and shut the door. Hello!! She has a knife!! 🤦♀️🤦♀️
No, that sounded like sarcasm from the cop. When she listed the contents, he said, "So nothing in there going to hurt me, huh...." Sounded like sarcasm to me.
I took that as, the officer heard her say, ‘a knife,’ and he asked, ‘so nothing in there is going to hurt me?’ more as a confirmation that a knife was actually in there, cuz a knife is well known to cause harm. So more of a confirmation than sarcasm or he didn’t hear it.
Not too certain about how the process works, but you can see that she doesn't have the bag on her in the arrest footage, meaning the police had already confiscated it. I have a feeling that the cop's "nothing in there is going to hurt me" was more about if the bag was boobytrapped, or otherwise able to cause harm when searched. A knife inside a bag isn't on that level, especially after the police became aware that there's a sharp object inside the bag. It's like when you're washing the dishes and you know that a kitchen knife is sitting somewhere under the soapy water. You're gonna be a bit more careful when searching for it, and you're gonna avoid touching the blade.
This case is so sad this child was murdered for just being there! Sweet sweet little Emily, my heart breaks ❤❤❤❤
I think the real key fact is that when she was in the right state of mind, she chose to stop using her meds. That is negligence. Her negligence caused this.
She killed the girl knowingly out of the fascination and interest in killing someone, anyone, that she can easily kill. Then, run away as fast as she can, which tells you, she knows what she had done.
sure you clearly know more than the police and the doctors
@@luc1ferblack They do. You had better be being sarcastic about making law enforcement and these "quacks" looking bad....
Not necessarily, when you have a psychotic break nothing makes sense and you could never understand the thought of someone else
@@luc1ferblack doctors make mistakes, police are biased, and psychopaths are psychopaths. Mental illness doesn’t excuse murder and a lifetime of violent tendencies anymore than a bottle of beer excuses killing a family of 4 in a head on collision.
@@Diamonds_dime so what? Its still murder, premeditated murder at that. Its disgusting she gets away with brutally murdering an innocent 7 year old that she had never even met before, she clearly planned it and clearly knew it was wrong by the way she hid everything and tried to run away. She's a murderer and deserves to be locked up til she dies.
This really hurts my heart 😭😔 this is exactly why we need to keep our children close to us at all times!!!
A beautiful little girl. A very sad story.
Just bring back institutionalisation for these dangerous people. That level of unpredictability and cruelty really warrants life under close monitoring to make sure there are no more missed meds.
Yup.
California can thank Ronald Reagan for closing state institutions in the name of small government and budget constraints.
@@ShermThursbyactually it was because of the terrible conditions that were being suffered by patients in places like Pennhurst Asylum and the disproportional number of personal to patients- but go off.
Too many innocent people get lost in that system.
I agree. I'm a victim because of this and I'm still being threatened.
1) institutions never helped anyone ever, they just bred abuse and violence and sexual assault from the guards and staff
2) there are A LOT of people with mental illness who have the capability of being violent due to their illness. That does not mean they are dangerous people. With the right treatment, they're most often upstanding members of society and you'd never know.
3) you don't need to be in patient to be monitored and made sure you're following your treatment plan.
The problem isn't the mentally ill, even the violent and possibly dangerous ones. The problem is a shitty Healthcare system that doesn't actually care about the patient or those they may affect. None of this would have happened if this woman got the proper out patient care she needed. Why exactly she didn't is anyone's guess, so many fall through the cracks, but institutionalization of people who are violent or dangerous when off meds, who are taking their meds properly, is not the answer and never will be.
In Australia we have something called a community treatment order. Every 2 weeks, a health professional will visit these people to check on them and most of the time administer a medication that lasts for the next 2 weeks. The UK must have something like this.
I’m just tired of EVERYTHING being blamed on mental illness.
Very few are so far into a delusional state that they do not have the concept of right and wrong.
Even those who supposedly “snapped”
Too many excuses and not enough responsibility.
Children being murdered is already so tragic enough in any sense of the word. They didn’t even get the chance to really live out their own lives to the fullest. My sympathies and condolences to the victim’s family and friends.
does this life really have much to offer them apart from eat sleep work repeat??
@@paulo7507 if you have a life, yes
This is why we don’t allow illegal immigrants.
@@paulo7507 well if you want to really go down that rabbit hole, all life is meaningless. The definition of live is meaningless. It's all just quantum interactions that form pretty patterns.
@@paulo7507 literal edge lord
Just so gut wrenching. Poor dear child. May she rest in peace..
This is why I don't see a point to rehabilitation for certain people. If she was either locked up for life given her condition or just executed, this poor little girl would still be alive. NONE of this would have happened
Came in country illegally should have been deported straight away
I'm from Manchester in the U.K and was not aware of this terrible case thanks for shedding some light on it.
R.I.P little girl.
Like he said, there’s absolutely no excuse for what this woman did do a defenseless child. But as someone with bipolar schizophrenia, which is nowhere near as severe as paranoid schizophrenia to this extent, cases like these always leave me feeling hollow and sad. I know how easy it is for someone with a psychotic disorder to distrust medicine and slide down that slippery slope of purposefully not taking antipsychotics. When I was first diagnosed, I was combative and fought at every turn to take my medication, if I didn’t have the amazing support system I do with my family, friends, and doctors, I don’t want to think about what I could have done. Psychotic disorders are a lifelong struggle that never ends. Mental health awareness needs to be better across the whole world.
Yup. It's a bit of a double edged sword. The people who most need help are those that most distrust it. I've been in that situation and I'm only lucky that my delusions were actually able to be disproven.
I've worked with a few adults who were found guilty of horrible crimes but on the grounds of diminished capacity due to mental illness. I see them after they are back in the community. Treatment and support make a massive difference for a lot of them.
Yes, it's very sad and horrific. She should have NEVER been allowed to be in charge of her own medication
so true. mental illness cannot be remedied by oneself alone. not at all.
Proud of you for turning it around! My mental illnesses are different but I've been close to people with similar diagnoses so I've seen the struggle. I can't imagine how hard that is first hand, as someone that was gunho for treatment, but I know it's far from easy.
Mental illness isn't our fault, but it is our responsibility. Taking that responsibility can be one of the hardest and bravest thing that people do.
this will never feel fair no matter what happens to that woman, taking a life is unforgivable, taking a child's life is beyond words can describe at how awful it is
This was so preventable, the people who treated her should be held accountable, she should have been in a group setting forever, she was not competent enough to manage her meds. Dime a dozen.
The Home Office, medical and judicial authorities have all failed and precious Emily & her family have paid a terrible price; she has not received justice.
Here's hoping Emily's parents will be able to protest here release.
Killed a little girl on mother’s day. Mommy issues. She was in a foul mood that day and wanted to hurt someone. Probably watched the little girl interacting with her family and got jealous.
I have a brother, an aunt and 2 friends who are paranoid schizophrenics. My aunt got hep in her 30’s and lives in a group home. One of my friends has been in a group home for over 30 yrs and is doing well. The other friend is suffering, having troubles with getting the right meds. My brother didn’t get diagnosed until in his 40’s. He’d take his meds until he was feeling ok then, stop taking them because he “felt better”. Terrible circle.
My grandmother, who was also paranoid schizophrenic did the same thing.
It's a terrible cycle for sure, & one we see time & time again. They feel like they're doing so much better & so they stop taking the medications that are making them that way. I wonder of it's a kind of denial or something? Like maybe they think they are cured rather than it just being kept in check or something. Idk. It's very sad though.
@@quicksilverlacey i agree, i think it also comes from a lack of proper explanation or education about the meds and how they work. once i was taught how and why my meds work it changed how i thought about them.
Why do we as a society have such reservations about killing obvious killers promptly. It’s obvious dispatch her and done.
This happened just up the road from me. Heartbreaking case
This child was seriously let down by authorities.
James I’m so glad to see this channel is about to hit 800k subscribers 🎉 next stop 1 million & you (& your team, if there is one) deserve ALL the success that the channel is generating!! ❤ Thanks for all hard work, it’s much appreciated.
What on earth is that username lol
@@DG-kv3qi I don't know if I would be criticizing someone's username there DOLLAR GENERAL 🤡 😆
@@DG-kv3qi and the fact that you say what on Earth is that username like you don't know what it means. It literally says Cali girl living in Nevada. Can you not read? Out of all the weird usernames that commented on this video you choose this one to single out 😆😆 okay CHILD 🤠 go do your homework or something 😆😆
Sad and horrible case. I am glad Tony got her, most people would never do that. I hope Mr and Mrs Jones are are okay now, sad yes. But I hope they know that Emily will always be in their hearts and watching over them.
This would have killed me if it happened to my children. What's so sad is the parents were attentive and this still happened. I just can't imagine how much those poor parents suffered from losing their young daughter. RIP
I hate to say it, but in IMO they weren't attentive enough toward their only child....
The Mom was no where near her daughter, running, with ear buds in her ears, & couldn't hear her daughter, when she called out to her. Yes the Mother apparently completely entrusted her daughter to her Father's care, since she was actually, actively blocking out sensory input, with her distance, & ear buds. She was essentially making herself inaccessible, if either the Father or the child needed to get her attention.
The Father was not being attentive "enough" either, as he let his daughter run after her Mother, & let her get too far away. He was not in close enough proximity to protect his only child from harm. The daughter also, apparently did not feel close enough to her Father to run to him, for him to meet her needs in that moment, even though he was the one who was apparently more "available".
Not saying this to judge, as someone with a superior attitude, because I'm not a perfect parent, & have made plenty of my own mistakes parenting. So I can say this based on what I've learned through experience & observation, & what I've learned from my own mistakes.
And the woman who murdered that child, in my opinion got off way too easy, mentally ill or not. Personally I think she was both a violent psychopath,(who lacked both a conscience, or remorse), & a schizophrenic. I think she premeditated murdering someone, & was using her schizophrenic "diagnosis", as an excuse to act out her violent tendencies, knowing it "protect" her from the full consequences of her actions. At least in this side of life...
@SplitFeather Zephier Even if the dad was holding her hand, with how quickly this happened, the result would have been about the same. This entire comment sounds like you are blaming the parents for something this monster disguised as a woman did.
The mother went for some " her time", and the father was within range (typical for the park). Parents shouldn't have to be holding their 7 year olds in their arms for psychopaths to leave them alone.
@@KettleBlacktheBat + Think what you want. I can't stop you. And I feel I explained myself pretty well. Parents watching this video, might learn a thing or 2 from it, is all I'm saying...
if you have an illness that if you don't take the meds the side effects could be murder, or harm to yourself and others, there should be a law in place to have a nurse, caregiver, guardian, something in order to administer dosages. it is a person who needs aid. Mental illness is invisible but that doesnt mean its not serious. It never gets handled appropiately. That poor child, this could have been prevented.
Capital punishment should be applied in these sort of circumstances
I went through some EXTREMELY difficult times with my daughter last year. Self harm, talking about wanting to "be gone", destroying things in our home, ect. I couldn't get help for her anywhere. She refused to attend counseling. (which I tried more times than I can keep track of to get her to go. I made TONS of appointments). I reached out to her school, guidance counselor, family doctor/her endocrinologist, and several visits to the E.R. I even called the police a few times. I could not get her any help whatsoever! Our mental health system is fractured!
I know this happened a while ago but I wanted to say May this beautiful innocent young child Rest In Peace May her beloved friends and family find healing and peace I’m sorry this evil came your way little one
Imagine living in a county and someone illegal brakes in and is rewarded with money, place to live, free medical treatment, food,etc. And then murders a little girl....and again is rewarded with a free place to live, food, medical, etc for 10 years.....then she will be released...What a F-ed up world we live in.
I couldn't ever begin to imagine this happening. I have lots of family near the park in Bolton and I've been myself and of all the things this woman could do, she took a family's baby away. How horrific to just cut a kids throat. Horrific human being she is..
The effects of schizophrenia is worse if you suddenly stop your meds than if you never ever took meds . How I know my mum was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia back in 1981 and every time she suddenly stop her meds , she would be out of control .
Man when the victim's A child, it hits so much harder
This happened close to where I live!! So so sad I cant even comprehend how her parents must be feeling to lose their only child in such A vile way. I hope they keep her locked away forever. I have an adult Daughter who suffers with A whole range of mental illnesses including psychosis & she has never harmed A fly because she is medicated now if she refused to take them & became unwell & did anything to anyone I would want her to be placed into A secure hospital for her own safety & the safety of others. Rest in heavenly peace little Emily
This was horrible I remember this here. They keep letting these crazies in our country. There is no supervision here I’ve worked in home care. It’s despicable the authorities and facilities allow this. Poor Emily. 😢 she should of been kept out or locked up way before this. This was murder and them saying anything else is injustice to Emily.
I love about an hour away from Bolton, and I didn't hear this. Because the day after the world went I to lockdown. Those poor parents would have been so alone and isolated whilst grieving the loss of their daughter in such a horrific way.
Thank you for making these videos. Keep up the good work
There is no excuse for murder, not even mental illness. Everyone should be held accountable.
Good lord! This is beyond horrific.
May she rest in peace, and please lock that woman away for life as we don't need more people or children to die .May the family get justice. As well as closer.
Hi👋This is such a horrendous, senseless, & incomprehensible murder. I appreciate you included Emily’s characteristics, and positive memories she and her parents had, and I’m also glad that you included some of what Emily’s father/parents said. (overall so much focus is on the murderer & most victims are forgotten about, but I’ve noticed a good “trend” over the last year or so, it at least feels like more and more true crime channels are changing that, and I don’t know what to say - I mean the best would be a world without heinous crimes, but such a world doesn’t exist,- and have never existed.)
Thanks for your time and effort, you’re a very likable UA-camr 🐾✨
I was admitted against my will several times. They drugged me up and discharged me without me cooperating with any of the group activities or individual therapy. After they released me I had no way to get my medication as appointments with psychiatrists were out by ay least 3 months. No matter where you are people with severe mental illnesses are constantly being brushed aside and Unfortunately in this case and many others it amounted to a life lost for no reason. I was lucky enough after 30 years to find a psychiatrist who really cared and took her job seriously. Not all of us get that lucky
Unmotivated murder, is the worse, it’s worse then provoked murder.
Especially so when it's a child :(
Bad grammar is a crime too.
@@DG-kv3qi _you must be bored. English isn’t everyone’s first language and you can clearly understand what they said. Imagine sitting under a video about a murdered child, worrying about someone’s grammar. Insane._
_I agree. Can’t even say it’s your fault when a random psycho attacks for no reason._
It's so sad hearing about a child being murdered!!! This happened to a friend of mine when she also was 7, I was 9... It was in Claymont, DE March 1990, I still remember the guys name from the newspaper Joseph DeShields... Then I checked online and saw Joseph Shields but this guy also had a history of mental health and he was 18 at the time got 18yrs in a mental hospital... My friend's name was Brenda Coxe... I just despise ppl that do stuff to little kids
If I were Emily’s mother, I would be waiting for her the day she was released.
Absolutely! She would suffer the same fate for sure! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Yup if she ever got out and I was Emilies father, she’d be dead the day she got out
This was premeditated, and this “diminished responsibility” is a load of crock! She was FULLY aware of what she intended to do, because SHE had gone and bought the knives, and SHE refused to take her oral medication for a month before she took Emily’s life senselessly!!
She might have paranoid schizophrenia, but she knew EXACTLY what she was doing, and she attempted to get away with it, but thank God for the hero, Tony, who chased and tackled her!
Every single “medical” profession, and whomever else truly and horrifically dropped the ball in this case! They KNEW that she had already REFUSED to take her oral medication while she was in the mental hospital, but they ALLOWED her to “escape” without a single consequence, and they ALLOWED her to go back into society on her “word” that she’d take her oral medicine. Since she CLEARLY lied about her “promise” to take her oral medication, then that, right there, SHOULD have proven that she’ll LIE to get out of being responsible for anything.
May God have Mercy on society if and when she’s allowed to live freely in society, because she’ll probably be sent to a town under an assumed name.
May Emily rest peacefully in her eternal slumber.
May Emily's beautifull soul rest in eternal peace. 🕊
My sincere condolences to her family. 💔
Nobody has even commented on the fact this woman shouldn't have even been in our country to begin with. How she was allowed to stay knowing she was an illegal immigrant, violent history, mental health problems & refused to take her medication. Now we've got to foot the bill for her healthcare after she's murdered this beautiful little girl & soon she'll be walking our streets again. Unbelievable
She does not need to be free!!!!!
It doesn't bear thinking about. As a parent I cannot comprehend the sheer panic of losing your child in such a horrific, unimaginable way. Powerless to stop it. Powerless to save her. No parent should ever have to go through something like that. RIP sweet Emily. My heart truly goes out to Mark and Sarah and their families.
... She looks like an innocent young girl full of life, with so much to look forward to.
I once was having a conversation with some friends and some random woman that I had never seen in my entire life walked right up to me and sucker punched me in my face. When I asked her why she did it she said, "Because I don't like you." With a crazed look in her eyes.
You never know when you can cross paths with these types of people. Mental illness is real. If you have these conditions please don't be selfish and not take your meds. Not every brain works the same and some need assistance to function correctly.
You do a great job thank you 😊
Some people need to be kept out of society for their entire lives. If a person who needs medication refuses to take it; we need to take charge. These persons have proven they are not responsible. Instead they bounce in and out of A&E, causing chaos to themselves, family and people at large.
I don't blame the dad for not realizing what he was seeing. No one would think that was what was happening.
That poor little girl must have been terrified 💔 and I can only imagine how hard it must have been for the parents to not only see this unfold and lose their precious daughter, but also have the criminal get off so easily and without reason. As a mother of an only child I can empathize because the one person that brings so much joy and happiness is cruelly taken from you it's just so heartbreaking. I send nothing but love to the parents, family and friends 🕊️🕯️🌹💕
My ex boyfriend and my father are paranoid schizophrenics. The things that they believe are often confusing and terrifying and the worst part for them is that no one believes that they're God/the chosen one/a superhero/whatever they feel they are and they are accused of having a mental illness. Just today I was emailing with my ex(he cannot have my phone number anymore!) and he spent a great deal of time talking about how hurt he is that I would accuse him of being schizophrenic! According to him his spiritual guide Desura has just helped him ascend and soon he will win approximately 43 million dollars from the lotto. Luckily for society he's not the violent sort. My father is violent though and tbh even though he needs to be committed and forced on meds I don't want to provoke him into coming after me. He sees family members as a threat and I wouldn't put it past him to hurt me, my sister, my niece, literally anyone if the voices in his head think we're threatening him. This is why people like Eltiona end up committing crimes like this. No one wants to be the sacrificial lamb to be abused.
I’m so sick of people using their mental health issues as a crutch to justify committing crimes…if you have a diagnosis and have prescribed medication; it’s your responsibility to take that medication! In my opinion she is 100% guilty of murder, she refused treatment for her illness, she bought the pack of knives and went to the park to search for a victim…just because a killer doesn’t have a specific victim in mind, doesn’t mean they don’t have the intention to kill at all
She should never be let out! Soo sad
I suffer with the same mental illness. I told my therapist that I’m going to come off my meds. She didn’t care. I had nothing from the mental health department. I would say that they let that woman down big time and they will do the same thing when she’s out again. If they kept a closer eye on that woman then maybe just maybe that sweet little girl would still be here. Shame that the mental health services are not held accountable also.
Although critically underfunded the mental health system let this little girl down by not exercising their due diligence in the case of this woman who must never be allowed to roam free again. Despite her illness, I do believe the murder was premediated as there was planning involved. RIP sweet Emily. My deepest condolences to her family and friends.
She could have believed that she needed to carry the knives for protection. As a schizophrenic I have felt the need to protect myself. And an episode can last for days, weeks or months.
There is an overlying illness that makes mentally ill people believe they are not sick but if she was not diagnosed with the overlying illness then she should have been managing her illness.
At the same time, it's terribly difficult for some people to manage their illness. I can have really heavy episodes however I do not find it difficult to understand that my medication is helping me. Sometimes the paranoia makes people believe doctors are actually out to hurt them. I've seen it in the psychiatric hospitals, the voices and paranoia convince them they are being killed slowly, being experimented on etc. I'm just fortunate to be able to take my meds and get better but it's not like that for others and it's really sad and scary to see.
She didn't buy those knives out of fear....I think the murder of that child should tip you off to that. Maybe in your case, but in THIS case, she had murder on her mind and ran away when she did it. Running away shows she knows it was wrong. She planned it and did it.
@@ghostdetective311 I get that you don't understand mental illness on this level
Stay strong
You can't carry a knife in the UK it's illegal
One of the biggest problems with mental health care in general is personal autonomy. Where do you draw the line? Some people don’t want treatment, do we force treatment? That takes away the persons right to autonomy. Court ordered treatment is a thing but it’s very conditional.
She was so lucky to be able to receive those injections. They keep psychosis at bay and are one of the best anti psychotic treatments available. So many people in the US don’t have access to these injections and it’s sad as schizophrenics are known for not being med compliant. The injections saved my life. I nearly died on multiple occasions from suicide until the injections stopped my symptoms. I take the oral medication now and have been med compliant for years. It’s very sad what mental illness does to families if untreated.
I've heard of this. Supposedly she said she just wanted to kill someone that day and unfortunately little Emily became her victim 😢
Born in 1990, moved to Kuwait at the age of 31 in 2012? Your maths is about 10 years off wtf LOL
I'm so sick of the mental health crap.
Poor Emily and her family, RIP
OMG it was premeditated. She specifically bought 3 knives and walked straight to the park and murdered a little girl.
NEVER EVER been allowed out of that facility!! That poor child’s murder is on their heads!!!
"Was this preventative? Maybe...maybe not"
It was 100% preventable, if she'd been locked in an asylum after refusing medication the first time.
Or even better, sent back when her illegal immigrant status was revealed.
It's cases like this that make me wish they would reinstate asylums. Letting people with mental health issues like this wander around loose is frightening and it can be extremely dangerous.
Here's the thing: you cannot lock up someone for refusing to take prescribed medication. You can ask them to take it, but you can't forcibly medicate someone who has capacity and it's not a life-saving measure. The idea that we should 'lock in an asylum' anyone who refuses their medication would quickly result in overflow of every mental health facility we have. Not to mention - did you take every antibiotic you had last time you were ill? Thought not. Should we lock you up, then?
The biggest predictor of violence for mental health services is a history of violent episodes. I don't in any way condone her acts, but given that all the doctors and professionals have to go on is past behaviour, they couldn't have predicted violence against a stranger.
Sending her back would only mean some other person or even child would have taken their place, she was a ticking time-bomb no matter where she were if she didn't get locked up in an institution for being dangerous.
@@Arthion she had no business being in the UK to begin with.
@@toffee2547 I don't disagree but she would have killed somebody regardless of where she was at the time.
Very sad story 😔😔😔she's heartless n monster 👹👹👹thanks sir amazing effort GOD bless you all the best 👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻❤️❤️❤️