@@FifaForumOnline often what I do however this time the new drop has tempted me in at full price. Although if his budget is $90 he wont be finding any elite
Glad these seem decent. This makes me especially excited for a 3rd gen. Seems like the designers were quite inspired in creating the Luna and GX simultaneously but realized there isn’t a market for both. Hopefully more time in the oven means figuring out a unified identity for the next model.
For me they ruined the midcut boots by shortening the collar with every generation as it is purely for aesthetics now and it doesn’t change the feel anymore. Superfly 4 and 5 actually kinda felt like socks, and these new collar boots just feel like any other lowcut boots.
I feel the same way. I bought the Magista obra 2 turf versions for 5-a-side games because they were on huge discount. Loved the feel. When I was finally able to finally afford the latest mercurial superfly 9, I felt disappointed as the collar is useless now... it no longer feels the same. Save yourself some money and stick to the vapors
I've got wide feet as well. You saying the gx 2 pro are better for wide feet than the gx pro? I currently have gx pro and they are spot on but the FG studs are completely worn so I need new boots now :)
@@nuggetnutcracker2935 it just depends brother because I also have a wide mid foot but the gx2 feels amazing on my foot so I really do suggest going in person to try them out because you never know how it’s gonna feel
Very interesting to hear all the criticism from everyone who hasn’t even tried these boots, and yet two of the large reviewers in the UA-cam space have already mentioned how good these are.
Lots of opinions based more so on the way they. I’m not in love with the aesthetics either, but to say that they’re bad just isn’t accurate. Way too much in common with the OG GX to be considered bad
We seen this before with the hypervenom the first model was awesome, the second one was trash, and the third one was absolute class!! I can’t wait to see what the phantom gx 3 will have to offer. Hopefully Nike learns after this kinda trash model.
You most likely have never tried the boots. Your opinion doesn't matter at all. The general consensus of people who have actually worn the boots is that it is an improvement, but you're probably some kid that thinks that superfly's make you actually run faster 😂
@@yowadup1000 first you most likely don’t even have a pair of high end cleats cuz u broke. So your opinion doesn’t matter at all due to the fact u won’t be able to afford them. Second, just cuz the “general consensus” is that the boots are great doesn’t mean they suit my needs. One of those critics being the sole plate which everyone can agree on. And I don’t wear superflys because they are too narrow I wear furon v7’s wide soooo yeah. That was a very lame attempt at roasting me, good try tho bot.
@@josevite9384 haha yeah that was a pretty lame attempt. Such a weird thing to assume I don't have high end boots lol sad. You made a general statement saying they are trash, without even trying them 😂😂. Don't talk unless you have tried them. Simple.
@@josevite9384if you have Daffy Duck feet like me and wear V7 Wides these are probably perfect for you. Hope you give them a try but damn are they expensive nowadays 😅
So, I now have a pair of these (I previously owned Phantom GT2s). I loved my old GT2s - as a wide-footed player, they are the only boot I have ever found genuinely comfortable - but they're falling apart now. Hence, these. - The boots look great in-person. I get that the colour is a bit much for most guys, but honestly, it looks good in-person. Only question is whether it suits your personal style or not. - There is probably a little more room in the toe top for me than in the GT2. That's a bit of a shame for me, I don't really need the 'dead room', but otherwise it's a great fit for wider-foot players. - The strike power from these is excellent, and the touch is good. - The cleat pattern has taken some getting used to, having studs where you might not be used to having studs - my foot is pretty sore. That said, the boots do seem to turn on an absolute dime, with no grip issues.
If you prefer the “sock boot” feel, definitely GX 2. If you like the idea of a more solid, “power boot” feel, definitely Pred. Both are great, but so different
Yoshi, do you know if the Nike Premier 3s are still leather? I was planning on getting the Gold ones, so I was wondering if they are still k-leather/leather at all
I still think its a bad move by Nike! The GX was so popular and judging by how fast the sizes sold out, it had to be one of their best sellers ever, they coule of easily got another year out of the GX at least! This is change simple for the sake of change. Much like the mis-step by adidas, who had an amazing boot in the Speedflow. But completely changed them up because it was that time of year for a new model. These marketing departments are clueless and think their customers are stupid and just prefer a new shiny thing! Rather than what people really want. Its just a way to justify their jobs, "look we did a thing, by creating a new thing" And i think in this case, the designers of the flop Luna think the bad sales, were just down to a marketing mistake by saying "its designed for women" when even the women didnt like it! And they're basically trying to force them out the door with this release. These are just Luna 2s high and low cut! And the GX was a one-off, classic. Much like the HyperVenom 1s. This is good news for other brands like Sketchers and New Balance. Because right now, Nike Mercurials aren't great, with the insole sliding on top of the air pockets, they've ruined the Tiempo line by taking away the thing people loved about them, the kangaroo leather! I dont see why anyone would buy them over the Premier 3s. People like what they like, and i like a bare foot feel with conical studs, so the New Balance Tekela laced version or the Harry Kane boots look a lot more appealing for my next pair of boots
this is the most sensible comment i’ve read all month about these boots. imo you’ve nailed it, at this point it’s just for the sake of something new. the gx 1 elite was doing great i couldn’t even touch the last 2 colorways because of how fast they sold out, sure they were limited edition but even the generic editions were selling out fast well before that! could have easily had another 5-6 months of guaranteed sales if they didn’t want to wait the full year. we get it nike it’s all about marketing and innovation but that doesn’t mean you can’t make steps in the wrong direction or even steps to the side.
My first question about the sole plate is, while I can see the rational for a player that spends a lot of time twisting or pivoting, what's it like for those of us who spend most of our time sprinting down the touchline? I think we'd want more linear studs for that.
There's no real ankle support to be had from any mid-cut boots. The collars are not design to restrict ankle mobility, which is where "support" would come from. The biggest thing to worry about is the quality of the fit. If the fit is good, the boots will feel more stable, which is where any real support from the boots is going to come from, mid or low. Hope this helps 👍
Since 2014 we're seeing literally the same boot with minor differences over and over and over and over again. Thanks to Nike and Adidas more players than ever are buying Mizuno, Puma, Diadora... and even brands like New Balance or Under Armour have found their place in the market. Keep going Nike, digging your own grave
Didn't they do this to the Hypervenoms 😂 ? The 1st version was SO GOOD ! The 2nd version was so bad, Neymar switched to Mercurials and Nike had to disguise it as Hypervenoms 😂😂😂
These have the same price as mizunos and are half the quality. So sad how you can buy a pair of takedown 200$ Mizunos are get a way better experience than anything else out there.
I like that ASICS and Mizuno keep to their roots and only make minor changes which allow for actual improvements. Unlike Nike or puma when they try to force changes to keep up with trends but yield no performance benefit whatsoever
Dear Josh! Can you please do a Nike Phantom Wenom compair with GX1? Which is better? My super loved Wenom just died and I need a similair style to my wide feet…
Is the sizing still true to size or is it still f*cked? I have always been wearing EU44 but this year had to go 1 size up for the GX, 1/2 up for the Tiempo and the Luna doesn't even fit with 2 size up ...
The previous Luna was in women’s sizing, so it would make sense that you would have to go up in size. As far as length is concerned, it’s the same as the original GX, so whatever size you wore in those, the same should work for GX 2 👍
just ordered mizuno morelia 3 neo mij “shining” off ebay a few days ago, seller’s located in south korea and everything’s seemed legit so far. i’ve stayed in contact with the seller and they have sent me a picture of the boots. just to be safe, any tips on how to spot a replica pair once they arrive?
I've wanted to go for Predator 30 but it seems like my feet are too wide for it, leaving quite a bit of toe box remaining. Is it a viable option to go for Phantom GX2 instead? I'd be going for AG sole plate.
@@Soccerreviewsforyou Thx a lot for the reply Josh! Was using Phantom Venom 3 before it just tore up very recently and now struggle to find a new one. Thx for the headups and will definitely try out the sizing of GX2 first.
does the toe box stretch? Because I have just tried on the Phantom Gx2 and it seems like my toe is getting squished, and consequently will get bruised a lot if i do end up keeping them and playing in them
They're widest through the mid-foot. They should work for most foot types, but as always, if you have exceptionally wide or narrow feet, it's hard to say that something will fit you "well" until you actually try them on.
I can’t say that I found that to be the case, however the lacing systems between the two original GX models were slightly different. In the case of the latest model though, the only difference is the extra material around your ankle from the collar. For and lockdown is identical in my experience
they gotta get rid of this phony collar nonsense; back then they actually had two different elite models, now its just a collar separating the two. so dumb and i cant believe they still do this
GX1 gonna go down as a classic
To bad they didn’t do the hypervenom phantom 1 colour way😂
fr @@stephenwang3937
glad i bought them in the blue colourway and white. did you manage to get a pair??
Which is your fav gx1 colour?
Already stocking up lol
Nike think their consumer base are stupid. The additional 20 dollars for that collar that does absolutely nothing is a crime
Stopping Astro turf getting inside is worth it
Can’t wait to get the Academy model of the turf shoe in the series 😂 $300!? Nah. $90? Yes.
Academy versions quality is poor
You’re better off getting a elite model from adidas , Nike or whatever from a previous model on a big sale
@@FifaForumOnline often what I do however this time the new drop has tempted me in at full price. Although if his budget is $90 he wont be finding any elite
That's why I prefer Mizuno's approach. If it's not broken, don't fix it. Just some touches here and there, and some minor tweaks.
Zzz why not both
Glad these seem decent. This makes me especially excited for a 3rd gen. Seems like the designers were quite inspired in creating the Luna and GX simultaneously but realized there isn’t a market for both. Hopefully more time in the oven means figuring out a unified identity for the next model.
I hope these make it to NikeID, I feel like I’d be able to make a T90 Laser 1-esque colorway
This is a good shout!
already is!
@@footballmaster7115 I saw! I wish I had the option to do the back flyknit part in white or volt 😭
For me they ruined the midcut boots by shortening the collar with every generation as it is purely for aesthetics now and it doesn’t change the feel anymore. Superfly 4 and 5 actually kinda felt like socks, and these new collar boots just feel like any other lowcut boots.
I feel the same way. I bought the Magista obra 2 turf versions for 5-a-side games because they were on huge discount. Loved the feel.
When I was finally able to finally afford the latest mercurial superfly 9, I felt disappointed as the collar is useless now... it no longer feels the same. Save yourself some money and stick to the vapors
Best boot I’ve ever used , fit right out the box and honestly for me better than gx1 because I have wide feet
Same I went to dicks and tried the gx1 and these. These were miles above
I've got wide feet as well. You saying the gx 2 pro are better for wide feet than the gx pro? I currently have gx pro and they are spot on but the FG studs are completely worn so I need new boots now :)
Same I'm probably a 9.5 but have width where a size 11 is comfy width wise but to long, would this be a good pick? (Us shoe size)
@@nuggetnutcracker2935 it just depends brother because I also have a wide mid foot but the gx2 feels amazing on my foot so I really do suggest going in person to try them out because you never know how it’s gonna feel
Very interesting to hear all the criticism from everyone who hasn’t even tried these boots, and yet two of the large reviewers in the UA-cam space have already mentioned how good these are.
Lots of opinions based more so on the way they. I’m not in love with the aesthetics either, but to say that they’re bad just isn’t accurate. Way too much in common with the OG GX to be considered bad
Now make premium turf boots Nike
that's all i am asking for, no more Pro models
$295 dfkm 💀💀 Nike is so shameless
GX 1 >>>>>
Comfort over everything >>>> , doesn’t matter what boots you wear as long as they’re comfortable and fit good.
Nike keeps doing the same mistakes. We have the "Hypervenom 1 to Hypervenom 2" situation all over again..
@sr4u Gotta say Jim, great videos but I fucking miss the string bag ratings........
Really disappointed with the sole plate from the Luna on this model.
get the ag
Got to do the string bag review😂 missing that
Per Nike, "For use on slightly wet, short-grass fields."
Dumb question, can it be used on Turf?
that cyclone is so ugly just like the rest of the shoe
The more I see them, the more they’re growing on me…a different colourway could make all the difference
Wtf, they are both the Luna. 🤦♂️😂
We seen this before with the hypervenom the first model was awesome, the second one was trash, and the third one was absolute class!! I can’t wait to see what the phantom gx 3 will have to offer. Hopefully Nike learns after this kinda trash model.
You most likely have never tried the boots. Your opinion doesn't matter at all. The general consensus of people who have actually worn the boots is that it is an improvement, but you're probably some kid that thinks that superfly's make you actually run faster 😂
@@yowadup1000 first you most likely don’t even have a pair of high end cleats cuz u broke. So your opinion doesn’t matter at all due to the fact u won’t be able to afford them. Second, just cuz the “general consensus” is that the boots are great doesn’t mean they suit my needs. One of those critics being the sole plate which everyone can agree on. And I don’t wear superflys because they are too narrow I wear furon v7’s wide soooo yeah. That was a very lame attempt at roasting me, good try tho bot.
@@josevite9384 haha yeah that was a pretty lame attempt. Such a weird thing to assume I don't have high end boots lol sad. You made a general statement saying they are trash, without even trying them 😂😂. Don't talk unless you have tried them. Simple.
They trash 🚮
@@josevite9384if you have Daffy Duck feet like me and wear V7 Wides these are probably perfect for you. Hope you give them a try but damn are they expensive nowadays 😅
So, I now have a pair of these (I previously owned Phantom GT2s). I loved my old GT2s - as a wide-footed player, they are the only boot I have ever found genuinely comfortable - but they're falling apart now. Hence, these.
- The boots look great in-person. I get that the colour is a bit much for most guys, but honestly, it looks good in-person. Only question is whether it suits your personal style or not.
- There is probably a little more room in the toe top for me than in the GT2. That's a bit of a shame for me, I don't really need the 'dead room', but otherwise it's a great fit for wider-foot players.
- The strike power from these is excellent, and the touch is good.
- The cleat pattern has taken some getting used to, having studs where you might not be used to having studs - my foot is pretty sore. That said, the boots do seem to turn on an absolute dime, with no grip issues.
If I’m a size 11 in regular shoes what size should I go for these?
@@BlackOpsDude1998 No idea. (I don't even know which measuring system you use, but regardless, no idea!).
in your opinion would you buy the phantom gx2 or the elte predator elite
If you prefer the “sock boot” feel, definitely GX 2. If you like the idea of a more solid, “power boot” feel, definitely Pred. Both are great, but so different
Yoshi, do you know if the Nike Premier 3s are still leather? I was planning on getting the Gold ones, so I was wondering if they are still k-leather/leather at all
They are
i get the luna 2 and regret it , it feel like you dont wear anything and dont have any protection for your feets
I still think its a bad move by Nike! The GX was so popular and judging by how fast the sizes sold out, it had to be one of their best sellers ever, they coule of easily got another year out of the GX at least!
This is change simple for the sake of change.
Much like the mis-step by adidas, who had an amazing boot in the Speedflow. But completely changed them up because it was that time of year for a new model.
These marketing departments are clueless and think their customers are stupid and just prefer a new shiny thing! Rather than what people really want. Its just a way to justify their jobs, "look we did a thing, by creating a new thing"
And i think in this case, the designers of the flop Luna think the bad sales, were just down to a marketing mistake by saying "its designed for women" when even the women didnt like it! And they're basically trying to force them out the door with this release.
These are just Luna 2s high and low cut! And the GX was a one-off, classic.
Much like the HyperVenom 1s.
This is good news for other brands like Sketchers and New Balance. Because right now, Nike Mercurials aren't great, with the insole sliding on top of the air pockets, they've ruined the Tiempo line by taking away the thing people loved about them, the kangaroo leather! I dont see why anyone would buy them over the Premier 3s.
People like what they like, and i like a bare foot feel with conical studs, so the New Balance Tekela laced version or the Harry Kane boots look a lot more appealing for my next pair of boots
this is the most sensible comment i’ve read all month about these boots. imo you’ve nailed it, at this point it’s just for the sake of something new. the gx 1 elite was doing great i couldn’t even touch the last 2 colorways because of how fast they sold out, sure they were limited edition but even the generic editions were selling out fast well before that! could have easily had another 5-6 months of guaranteed sales if they didn’t want to wait the full year. we get it nike it’s all about marketing and innovation but that doesn’t mean you can’t make steps in the wrong direction or even steps to the side.
Can we just have a mercurial with gripknit 😭
You spoke it into existence lol
My first question about the sole plate is, while I can see the rational for a player that spends a lot of time twisting or pivoting, what's it like for those of us who spend most of our time sprinting down the touchline? I think we'd want more linear studs for that.
Josh if I get a mid cut cleats would it kinda help my stability ankle? Or just get the low cut
There's no real ankle support to be had from any mid-cut boots. The collars are not design to restrict ankle mobility, which is where "support" would come from. The biggest thing to worry about is the quality of the fit. If the fit is good, the boots will feel more stable, which is where any real support from the boots is going to come from, mid or low. Hope this helps 👍
Nike sucks.
Please review New Balance Furon V7+
Video coming soon!
@@Soccerreviewsforyou Wow. Thank you so much for the time replying
They are just Lunas + Gx1s
Since 2014 we're seeing literally the same boot with minor differences over and over and over and over again. Thanks to Nike and Adidas more players than ever are buying Mizuno, Puma, Diadora... and even brands like New Balance or Under Armour have found their place in the market. Keep going Nike, digging your own grave
I wouldn't say it's the same Boot over and over again. The gripknit on the GX1 was something new and it is great.
Nobody is buying Diadora or Under Armour…
@@sdot5389 I am and so are my brothers
Didn't they do this to the Hypervenoms 😂 ? The 1st version was SO GOOD ! The 2nd version was so bad, Neymar switched to Mercurials and Nike had to disguise it as Hypervenoms 😂😂😂
If you could only buy 1 which one would you buy ? GX2 , Adidas predator or Tekela v4 low ? 🤔
gx 2. I have ordered the luna 2s and they are on the way and I must reccomend them
GX 1 way better than this 1
The ag pair is gonna be different feeling right? Since it’s the gx soleplate but ag, and it might be lighter
I would imagine the AG soleplate would feel more like the original GX soleplate, but I haven’t tried them just yet. Video coming soon though!
Luna ag if ur gonna play on ag pitches to prevent the rubber pellets from getting in the boots
I'm a 10.5us in most boots but with tiempos im a size 11us. What size would you recommend with these? 10.5us or 11us
These have the same price as mizunos and are half the quality. So sad how you can buy a pair of takedown 200$ Mizunos are get a way better experience than anything else out there.
GX army
I dont like the studs either, too aggressive for my taste. I‘ll probably go with the ag version
It’s annoying these are so damn narrow!
So glad I got the GX1 Elites for a good price 2 months ago now that Gripknit is gone forever.
Performance aside, this is not a good launch colorway
I like that ASICS and Mizuno keep to their roots and only make minor changes which allow for actual improvements. Unlike Nike or puma when they try to force changes to keep up with trends but yield no performance benefit whatsoever
Dear Josh!
Can you please do a Nike Phantom Wenom compair with GX1? Which is better?
My super loved Wenom just died and I need a similair style to my wide feet…
Hi Josh, do you personally prefer the GX2 Elite more or the latest predator elite with laces? Thanks.
50/50 boot
Terrible colorway
this is a great luna update, altho not so much for the gx😅
Shoulda stayed with the conical like studs if not actual conical studs.
That's for artificial grass mate. These are firm ground
This reminds me so much of the Obra 2...
That’s why I bought them tbh cuz magistas were always my favorite
Is the sizing still true to size or is it still f*cked? I have always been wearing EU44 but this year had to go 1 size up for the GX, 1/2 up for the Tiempo and the Luna doesn't even fit with 2 size up ...
The previous Luna was in women’s sizing, so it would make sense that you would have to go up in size. As far as length is concerned, it’s the same as the original GX, so whatever size you wore in those, the same should work for GX 2 👍
Thanks for the review! Is there a lot of wiggle room for toes?
Can you review the Nike Phantom gx 2 pro version?
Video coming soon!
just ordered mizuno morelia 3 neo mij “shining” off ebay a few days ago, seller’s located in south korea and everything’s seemed legit so far. i’ve stayed in contact with the seller and they have sent me a picture of the boots. just to be safe, any tips on how to spot a replica pair once they arrive?
Who was the seller?
Getting the non sock in fg and sg
I've wanted to go for Predator 30 but it seems like my feet are too wide for it, leaving quite a bit of toe box remaining. Is it a viable option to go for Phantom GX2 instead? I'd be going for AG sole plate.
The Phantoms are definitely wider. The only thing to be aware of is that they also taper to a narrower shape at the toes.
@@Soccerreviewsforyou Thx a lot for the reply Josh! Was using Phantom Venom 3 before it just tore up very recently and now struggle to find a new one.
Thx for the headups and will definitely try out the sizing of GX2 first.
Hey @@Soccerreviewsforyou are the phantom gx2 good options for a winger
does the toe box stretch? Because I have just tried on the Phantom Gx2 and it seems like my toe is getting squished, and consequently will get bruised a lot if i do end up keeping them and playing in them
Did they end up stretching for you?
Will there be pro and academy version?
Absolutely! Look out for reviews on both soon 👍
prices for those are silly
How are they for narrow feet?
They're widest through the mid-foot. They should work for most foot types, but as always, if you have exceptionally wide or narrow feet, it's hard to say that something will fit you "well" until you actually try them on.
The silhouette of these remind me of the predator edge
I definitely see that, especially because of the colour blocking. Nothing alike though, thankfully 😅
@@Soccerreviewsforyouwhat’s your preference between the two?
I wore size 8 in gx, should i go down 7.5 for the new gx2?
Sizing is the same 👍
The gx1 df had better lockdown than gx1 low. Is that tge same with luna?
I can’t say that I found that to be the case, however the lacing systems between the two original GX models were slightly different. In the case of the latest model though, the only difference is the extra material around your ankle from the collar. For and lockdown is identical in my experience
@@Soccerreviewsforyou thank you
Do you think I’d be able to use the fg variant on ag?
I wouldn’t recommend it
For a once in a while game yes, for regular training nooo
If u suffered the too much grip of gx1, and I saw that a lot, this is better
I hate the release color way, personally I don’t like how they look, but if they are comfortable, I will buy a pair
wait for a new colour
NIKE HAVE GOTTEN LAZY
Online i can they are suggesting to go up 1 size for male for luna because they are more tight. Is that true?
At least GX 1 will now be cheaper
Maybe, GX1 is very highly rated and if it runs out of stock, price tend to go up
It’s already out of Stock here in Australia sadly
No it won’t lol, it will be out of stock like it already has been and only available from instagram resellers
they gotta get rid of this phony collar nonsense; back then they actually had two different elite models, now its just a collar separating the two. so dumb and i cant believe they still do this