If we are going to have an impactful death, it needs to be a character who most of the audience has known for a good amount of time and who's role is established in the galaxy. If we are going Imperium, I would suggest Logan Grimnar as it would allow for Ragnar Blackmane to take the helm but I uninstallation that would have a far bigger effect would be Eldrad Ulthran.
As much as I like Commissar Yarrick, I'm also behind him dying because of how far the timeline's advanced. From memory, at the time of the Indomitus Crusade he's roughly 400 years old. And I don't think it fits with the setting for him to just pass away in his sleep or something like that. If he has been killed by Angron, I really want a fiction of it, and I love the idea that even till the bitter end, the Old Man of Hades Hive doesn't flinch, and maybe even is choosing to go down fighting Angron because he *knows* it means that Ghazghull will turn his attentions to defeating Angron and the World Eaters. Not only could it be an epic end if written right, Yarrick sacrificing himself in some 4D chess move based on his understanding of Ork psychology would be a great character moment for him.
As for Logan Grimnir, I don't want him to die yet, because I want him to have a new model without the effing Santa cart. Words can't describe how stupid I find that model.
Ah yes, casual AA podcast, just like before where we go from "Where did the 2nd and 11th go ?" to "Ponzi Schemes and Funko Pops", we got "Who should die next ?" to "Super Saiyan twirling nose hair man"
Re. the Custodes: Funnily enough, I remember 2nd ed, which had Custodes stats. I can't recall if they were as kick-arse as they are in current edition, but they were there at least.
Edit: Out of curiosity, I blew the dust off my old books and bar artwork, no they weren't in the 2nd Ed Codex Imperialis. My bad, I honestly thought they got a profile.
There are three types of Space Wolves fans: the scandavaboos, the people a little too obsessed with wolves, and those of us who like them because they are unmatched jackasses
I agree. Bring back red. Or give us more Arthur. Maybe sow the 2 together to create the mighty and dreadful Redarthur. Watch out Magnus, you’re gonna get skinned before you’re sent to the milking room.
I gotta say I think Khan will be back next not Russ mainly for the fact that vashtorrs gone into the webway and that was the last place we saw the Khan go and now imagine the chapter master of the white scars is killed fighting vashtorr and then he just hears chigorian throat singing from within the webway
I can see two ways that could happen. Either Games Workshop grant us another unecessary Space Marine army with new kits for the White Scars and the Khan on a giant bike. Or they completely piss on White Scars fans and give us the Khan on foot just like Kor'sarro XD
Marneus Calgar should absolutely die. Like you guys said, he is redundant. He also has a personality of a brick wall and unlike what people think, aside from the new comics and very short codex lore blurbs, he doesn't really have any stories about him. Calgar dies -> Sicarius becomes Chapter Master -> Titus takes his place as the Captain of the Second Company.
Better yet, Sicarius is responsible for Calgar's death due to his overweening arrogance and ambition (particularly if it's an unintentional death), falls to Chaos, and Uriel Ventris or hell even Titus becomes Chapter Master.
Hot take. Abaddon. Can we please move on? The guy has become stale and ineffective as a Chaos big bad without BL retroactively adding a bunch of stuff. I really hope Fulgrim returning can make Chaos interesting again.
@@ArtzzyKid actually it would be interesting if while the emperor was working through Gilman, could’ve been enough of a distract Nurgle from Isha, allowing Russ to make his way, be closer than he ever had been but be completely ejected into real space instead. See his sons on the brink of utter destruction. See Bjorn die with recognition of who he was, and re evaluate his goals into real space.
@theblindbuildergrandminuti5648 the fact the garden was burned, I am amazed it doesn't get mentioned more often just for that exact possibility or allowing the Aeldari to launch their own infiltration because I thought that was going to be the next step in the story but since then, nothing has come of it despite being a massive opportunity for Russ and the Aeldari.
Calgar did not save the day, that was all titus, if you think he did the saving of the day, you are cooking the books, titus was the main character start to finish
I didnt watch the video i just saw the title and thought it would be cool so idk if they said this But Guilliman should die before The Lion is able to reach and talk to him, that would darken things up
Fulgrim should die! Then theres a whole book about chaos stealing the “uncorrupted” copy of Fulgrim that Trazyn has, so they can make emperors children marines! Trazyn is the good guy, but the bad guys win!
If all - I think not, there are stocks on Terra. Available for warbands? It's possible, though they can just use different, uncorrupted stock to keep their numbers.
Dante, Calgar, Valorus, Helbretch, Bjorn, Old one eye, abbadon, Magnus, so many shouldve died years ago. They won’t change anything since the models sell well
It should be Tom
Boooo
Jumping the gun there, mate.
what do you mean hes alredy dead
My guy it has been a year since the incident, you have to let tom go
I thought Mr Mash was going to say the VR game let us experience making the quar litters first hand
If we are going to have an impactful death, it needs to be a character who most of the audience has known for a good amount of time and who's role is established in the galaxy.
If we are going Imperium, I would suggest Logan Grimnar as it would allow for Ragnar Blackmane to take the helm but I uninstallation that would have a far bigger effect would be Eldrad Ulthran.
I don't like Eldar but if that git Eldrad dies it would be a day of grieving
As much as I like Commissar Yarrick, I'm also behind him dying because of how far the timeline's advanced. From memory, at the time of the Indomitus Crusade he's roughly 400 years old. And I don't think it fits with the setting for him to just pass away in his sleep or something like that. If he has been killed by Angron, I really want a fiction of it, and I love the idea that even till the bitter end, the Old Man of Hades Hive doesn't flinch, and maybe even is choosing to go down fighting Angron because he *knows* it means that Ghazghull will turn his attentions to defeating Angron and the World Eaters. Not only could it be an epic end if written right, Yarrick sacrificing himself in some 4D chess move based on his understanding of Ork psychology would be a great character moment for him.
So nice guest and discussion!
Love Mish Mash - great wit and humor,
Also amazing craft
Would love to see more interactions in future
WOO
Mshmsh event
WOO
That shartor voice 😂.
YO DADDAY!!!!!
My close friend is mishmash ❤️ so proud of him and amazed at how far he's come since starting his work!
Praying for abandon so we can get a new actual scary bad guy.
The black heart himself?
John Grammaticus. Next question.
I love Space Wolves because they feel like one the last hurrah to the silliness that old school 40k was.
A Nurgling Space Marine dressed like Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I'm never gonna unsee that, and to be frank I don't want to.
As for Logan Grimnir, I don't want him to die yet, because I want him to have a new model without the effing Santa cart. Words can't describe how stupid I find that model.
We need red back. Hes funny. I mean everyone's funny, but red... He's like another Arthur but different personality. We need more spontaneous rage.
Moots said in the discord that Red has left the podcast indefinetaley
@frej7422noooooooooo!
Space Marine 2 was Marnius Clagar’s best moment, I kinda want him to die too but I wouldn’t give that up for the world
In the next Horus Heresy book, they should introduce an expy of Mike Ehrmantraut. at the end of the book he should be bricked by Gelt.
Ah yes, casual AA podcast, just like before where we go from "Where did the 2nd and 11th go ?" to "Ponzi Schemes and Funko Pops", we got "Who should die next ?" to "Super Saiyan twirling nose hair man"
53:44 ama be real with yall i did not expect a bleach reference in Astartes Anonymous.
Re. the Custodes:
Funnily enough, I remember 2nd ed, which had Custodes stats. I can't recall if they were as kick-arse as they are in current edition, but they were there at least.
Edit:
Out of curiosity, I blew the dust off my old books and bar artwork, no they weren't in the 2nd Ed Codex Imperialis.
My bad, I honestly thought they got a profile.
Custodes were originally only slightly better than Space Marines, the lore made them more elite around 2010
There are three types of Space Wolves fans: the scandavaboos, the people a little too obsessed with wolves, and those of us who like them because they are unmatched jackasses
If titus becomes chapter master then I would like leandros to fall to chaos. possibly become a demon prince. But that's just a theory.
I agree. Bring back red. Or give us more Arthur. Maybe sow the 2 together to create the mighty and dreadful Redarthur. Watch out Magnus, you’re gonna get skinned before you’re sent to the milking room.
Erebrus. Surely I must have missed that part explaining how his death would benefit the warhammer 40k storyline, the fanbase, and mankind in general.
MISHMASH LETS GOOOOOOOO
Topic starts at 20:00
02:55
Somebody has to change their smoke alarm batteries.
I gotta say I think Khan will be back next not Russ mainly for the fact that vashtorrs gone into the webway and that was the last place we saw the Khan go and now imagine the chapter master of the white scars is killed fighting vashtorr and then he just hears chigorian throat singing from within the webway
I can see two ways that could happen. Either Games Workshop grant us another unecessary Space Marine army with new kits for the White Scars and the Khan on a giant bike.
Or they completely piss on White Scars fans and give us the Khan on foot just like Kor'sarro XD
Abaddon needs to see the business end of a flamer. It’s time
Another day where I ask where is Red?
Bjorn should die next with the entry of russ, with him having his final moments similar to ignis
Passing away in lemans arms?
Yeah, good ol bjornie deserves To die with a smile on his face.
@brok56 it will be even better if bjorn died because russ was in the heat of battle
Rise up Mashists
Needed this today 😊.
Marneus Calgar should absolutely die. Like you guys said, he is redundant. He also has a personality of a brick wall and unlike what people think, aside from the new comics and very short codex lore blurbs, he doesn't really have any stories about him.
Calgar dies -> Sicarius becomes Chapter Master -> Titus takes his place as the Captain of the Second Company.
Better yet, Sicarius is responsible for Calgar's death due to his overweening arrogance and ambition (particularly if it's an unintentional death), falls to Chaos, and Uriel Ventris or hell even Titus becomes Chapter Master.
Sicarius isn't even the 2nd Captain anymore, that's Captain Scotsman in the SM2 campaign
It already was Red
On the limited lore Ik I would like to believe khan will come back cause of how much they been talking about the webway
Im imperial12b! Thank you guys!
What would it take to get red back?
o god this new avatars
What the hell are they talking about in the beginning?
Quar, another wargame.
The glory of Quar
Very glad they showed no images or flashed text the entire time lmao
Guess that model but red as the host
32:56 Titus shouldn't become Chapter Master yet, Cato Sicarius should
Day 5 of asking where TF is Red?!
He has left the popcast momentarily. Noots said it in the discord.
Why does tom look tired af 😂
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Hot take.
Abaddon. Can we please move on? The guy has become stale and ineffective as a Chaos big bad without BL retroactively adding a bunch of stuff. I really hope Fulgrim returning can make Chaos interesting again.
12:01 Chundaar the Beast
Bjorn should die right before or only briefly after meeting Russ.
Do you think he found the tree of life or another cure for the emperor ?
@@ArtzzyKid actually it would be interesting if while the emperor was working through Gilman, could’ve been enough of a distract Nurgle from Isha, allowing Russ to make his way, be closer than he ever had been but be completely ejected into real space instead.
See his sons on the brink of utter destruction. See Bjorn die with recognition of who he was, and re evaluate his goals into real space.
I’d even say, Russ learning of the dedication and endurance that Bjorn had might give him perspective and finalize him getting his shit together
@theblindbuildergrandminuti5648 the fact the garden was burned, I am amazed it doesn't get mentioned more often just for that exact possibility or allowing the Aeldari to launch their own infiltration because I thought that was going to be the next step in the story but since then, nothing has come of it despite being a massive opportunity for Russ and the Aeldari.
Can I get source for that Dante art? It's awesome and I want to know where it came from.
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discord link is broken
Calgar did not save the day, that was all titus, if you think he did the saving of the day, you are cooking the books, titus was the main character start to finish
Why say Scandanaboos when they could be Vikaboos
English speakers wouldn't know wether to say it like Veeka or Vaikaboos
I didnt watch the video i just saw the title and thought it would be cool so idk if they said this
But Guilliman should die before The Lion is able to reach and talk to him, that would darken things up
That would mean the Lion gets Big E's sword, and thats terrifying
Calgar should've died when Guilliman came back, shit's redundant
BUT HOW ELSE WOULD THEY SELL BOTH MODELS????
@@R-YR29they should sell them regardless, the middle earth battle game still sells every character yet half are dead in cannon
Fulgrim should die! Then theres a whole book about chaos stealing the “uncorrupted” copy of Fulgrim that Trazyn has, so they can make emperors children marines! Trazyn is the good guy, but the bad guys win!
You mean Clonegrim should die or demon primarch Fulgrim should?
@ the “perfect” primarch mate. The clone replaces his thrown
@@FretViper I don't think EC would care if he kicked the bucket
@ yeah I know. But didn’t all of the EC geneseed get corrupted?
If all - I think not, there are stocks on Terra. Available for warbands? It's possible, though they can just use different, uncorrupted stock to keep their numbers.
I’m your top .1%, boss
Dante, Calgar, Valorus, Helbretch, Bjorn, Old one eye, abbadon, Magnus, so many shouldve died years ago. They won’t change anything since the models sell well
Always talk shit about Space wolves but never have someone who can defend them on like Wolf Lord Rho
All the black templars. Next question.
This was cooked and burnt