There are four people in this “Mistico-verse”: The OG Mistico / Sin Cara / Caristico (Luis Alvirde) Dralistico / Mistico II (Carlos Gonzalez) Hunico / Sin Cara Negro / Cinta De Oro (Jose Rodriguez) Myzteziz Jr
Misterioso buried by Rush and Preston Vance on AEW Dark Elevation this past week in a tag team match. I wondered why he wasn't with Barrett Brown or Tyler Bateman? Hopefully the next time he's booked he gets more of chance to show what he can really do.
Because AEW is shitty when it comes to booking and doesn't care about wrestlers who have no contract there. That's why big names from smaller companies don't want to work for AEW anymire.
it is believed that original sin cara was a botch fest primarily due to the ropes and quality thereof. materials used in mexico/japan are not the same as that of america and thereby he had a tough time holding things together. This is what I read - the veracity of which is unknown to me.
I think it's a little simpler than that: Sin Cara's mask design probably did him no favors either, nor did the lights during his matches to add to his presentation... and the fact he just had no desire to properly learn the WWE style (which makes sense; he's a fucking luchadore... he was signed to do lucha shit.)
@@SeanStrifeyeah, that's the reason wwe used to change lights colors during his matchs, and the other reason, sin cara refused to learn English, he wasnt able to communicate with other wrestlers
It was a mix of things that just added up: The lights didnt help, his mask blocked somewhat his view, he didnt adapt to the WWE ring rope (WWE uses rope while CMLL and NJPW uses elevator's wires), he didnt adapt his style to the american style (like Mysterio did and made his style work within WWE and WCW and even ECW), he didnt learn english what made in ring communication hard, because of his lack of english and lack of managers his promo work was limited, etc Most of this could've been avoided if he went to FCW or even NXT to develop but WWE decided against their better judge to sign him to Raw because he was the hottest luchador at that moment, they learn their lessons and didn't make that mistake with Alberto Del Rio (though that career went off the rails thanks to other decisions)
This is what I enjoy the most in Lucha Libre a 1 on 1 Ras de Lona/Technical Wrestling and High Flying matches... Mexico has amazing Luchadors but they keep showcasing so much Tag Team Matches and never any singles matches and part of the heart of lucha libre has started with great technical wrestling in singles matches and it moved away from that in favor of Tag Teams which moves away from great wrestling fare to acrobatic circus unfortunately...
EXACTLY!! Aew especially with them always having pentagon jr and fenix with bandido in tag team matches my goodness it’s gotten repetitive. I love them but I prefer seeing them in singles matches
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 of course and that’s the norm and what’s being identified in Lucha Libre Tradition and Culture but can’t forget the original tradition of Lucha Libre has always been Technical Wrestling Singles Matches… Mil Máscaras, Canek, Santo, Blue Demon and the Guerreros where all phenomenal Technical Wrestlers that transitioned to other styles and blended very well but now Lucha Libre unfortunately has become spectacles of Acrobatics and less focus on true technicality of wrestling as it was before from those legends of wrestlers that I mentioned
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 yes but the focus has shifted a lot… we don’t see anymore of those classic storytelling technicality in Lucha Libre it’s now all a circus unfortunately to much focus on aerial moves and flashy moves set and not storytelling in the ring
We have no idea, he used it when CMLL started to stop using licensed music for TV events (they still do on non taped event or UA-cam exclusives), but the actual name is unknown.
@@emysta7856 Carístico and this Místico are the same (he regained the blessing from CMLL to use it, since the "Místico Nueva Era" left for AAA), he'd normally use Ameno and still does it in the Mexican indies, but as far as CMLL and New Japan are concerned, he's entering on a production theme, the title is unknown. As Carístico, he entered on "Me Muero", wich can still be heard during his Místico entrance if he takes too long to get in the ring.
@@emysta7856 Just to make it simple for the future. The original CMLL Místico was Sin Cara (azul) in WWE, Myzteziz in AAA, Carístico as a freelancer (he legally owns the name) and Místico under CMLL contract. Místico Nueva Era is the first Dragon Lee, he gave the name to his younger brother (current Dragon Lee) and is now wrestling as Dralístico. Given he's of the Ingobernables family, he may have appeared in AEW.
Hopefully masacra dorada will get payback on tjp time for he and samuray del sol challenge catch 2/2 for iwgp jr tag team championship in Japan or battle in the valley
If mistico used to botch he don’t no mo. Lots of practice! Looks like he doesn’t head first his crazier moves and makes sure he lands. Pretty awesome match
It's called "Not having HHH rushing you to the top because he wanted to make a point and not covering his eyes in the same colors than the gimmick lighting you put in his matches".
@@Paugose it is sort of the chicken and egg story, the cause and effect of which is unknown. as a child, I had tremendous expectations from him but original sin cara botched on his very first night. it is, they say, to conceal his botches that the lights were dimmed. not to mention his attitude backstage and the language barriers too. he is not the first luchador, nor the last to work with an American promotion. more discipline could have made it.
is this the original mistico? the one i knew was dark and had curly hair back when i was 7 i saw him and in one in the matches i remember really well he was getting his mask taken off but only showed his hair
Hopefully tony deppen will return to NJPW strong with Chris Dickson as his partner maybe reforming violence unlimited with homicide as ringside maybe challenge for iwgp world tag team championship or ROH world tag team championship
Hopefully to see the return of new Japan cup tournament including new players joining the roster from promotions like NJPW and Noah like satoshi kojima takeshi suigura ROH world television champion Samoa joe Jake something bandido Jax Dane tenzan Timothy thatcher tanahashi kengo marfuji makabe masa kitomiya ishii goto yoshihashi manabu soya sanada shingo takagi Jeff Cobb nagata zack Sabre .jr Tracy Williams Rhett Titus okada tama Tonga David finlay will osprey taichi lawlor Brody king suwama zeus and bad dude Tito
Nada que ver con misterioso original jaja nunca pensé que el hijo fuera la peor copi chales creo que yo tengo mejor rendimiento en cuerdas y arriva de la tercera cuerda , en si mejor desempeño
But I'm going to get ready for bed now 💋 the grown up stuff never ends😢😢😂😂😂😂 😂but I had to miss yesterday sol sick in so I missed Thursday but off yesterday and today but back to reality tomorrow then sol father passed away 😭 ooo bestie sol In I we had two people who we love gone for ever bestie 😢 but I'm Strong female u seen me at my weakness while sick 🤢 but hey I work at United club at the Bush IAH sincara y Ella I ur aka Esther Maria lira caballeros singing out hey my birthday comes up again 🎉🎉🎉❤
It's good to see that the original Sin Cara is in good hands and still flying to great heights
wait so caristico is 2012 sin cara that teamed up with rey mysterio??
@@eboyhowthey7295 I think so
@@eboyhowthey7295 yes
yeo thats the original
He’s a very talented wrestler. Místico was horribly used in wwe as sin cara. He shoulda of been wwe champ. Greatest high flyer ever
For those who don’t know mistico is the original sin cara
You mean he is Mr Walking Botch?
Mr botch
There are four people in this “Mistico-verse”:
The OG Mistico / Sin Cara / Caristico (Luis Alvirde)
Dralistico / Mistico II (Carlos Gonzalez)
Hunico / Sin Cara Negro / Cinta De Oro (Jose Rodriguez)
Myzteziz Jr
And for more confusion the second sin cara started as another different mistico
@@kidz4p509 Don’t forget Kalyxz
Glad I caught this...what a fantastic match
¡Viva México, señores! 🇲🇽
A huevo!
Cállese alv
This style is so much more different than wwe it’s pretty cool
It looks more like a dance and more choreographed than www. Pretty neat
Fr
Misterioso buried by Rush and Preston Vance on AEW Dark Elevation this past week in a tag team match. I wondered why he wasn't with Barrett Brown or Tyler Bateman? Hopefully the next time he's booked he gets more of chance to show what he can really do.
Because AEW is shitty when it comes to booking and doesn't care about wrestlers who have no contract there. That's why big names from smaller companies don't want to work for AEW anymire.
The Best in the world místico real sin cara🙏
Living Lucha Legend
Mr botch 😂
@@Useryuuihdaeg that was the second sin cara (hunico) mistico only botched once when he was sin cara
@@Useryuuihdaegthat was the second sin cara do some research before saying something
hahah this yankees idiots xD
@@Useryuuihdaeg
Después de años el verdadero mistico, el que hizo leyenda a ese personaje
it is believed that original sin cara was a botch fest primarily due to the ropes and quality thereof. materials used in mexico/japan are not the same as that of america and thereby he had a tough time holding things together. This is what I read - the veracity of which is unknown to me.
I think it's a little simpler than that: Sin Cara's mask design probably did him no favors either, nor did the lights during his matches to add to his presentation... and the fact he just had no desire to properly learn the WWE style (which makes sense; he's a fucking luchadore... he was signed to do lucha shit.)
@@SeanStrifeyeah, that's the reason wwe used to change lights colors during his matchs, and the other reason, sin cara refused to learn English, he wasnt able to communicate with other wrestlers
It was a mix of things that just added up: The lights didnt help, his mask blocked somewhat his view, he didnt adapt to the WWE ring rope (WWE uses rope while CMLL and NJPW uses elevator's wires), he didnt adapt his style to the american style (like Mysterio did and made his style work within WWE and WCW and even ECW), he didnt learn english what made in ring communication hard, because of his lack of english and lack of managers his promo work was limited, etc
Most of this could've been avoided if he went to FCW or even NXT to develop but WWE decided against their better judge to sign him to Raw because he was the hottest luchador at that moment, they learn their lessons and didn't make that mistake with Alberto Del Rio (though that career went off the rails thanks to other decisions)
I'd say it was his mask that created problems
I’ve had the privilege to see místico a few years ago in TJ omg that dude is legendary 🐐
Good old Lucha Libre 👌🏽
Mistico chewing gum under the mask is wild
Gran Lucha ojala #Mistico haga luchas fuera de #México.
#Misterioso es un buen talento 👍
#NJPW #Strong 💪
En dónde puedo ver este programa, osea New Japan Pro Wrestling ¿?
@@ECO_REAL en latam no esta disponible por tele abierta si no mal recuerdo,de echo ni cableo
This is what I enjoy the most in Lucha Libre a 1 on 1 Ras de Lona/Technical Wrestling and High Flying matches...
Mexico has amazing Luchadors but they keep showcasing so much Tag Team Matches and never any singles matches and part of the heart of lucha libre has started with great technical wrestling in singles matches and it moved away from that in favor of Tag Teams which moves away from great wrestling fare to acrobatic circus unfortunately...
EXACTLY!! Aew especially with them always having pentagon jr and fenix with bandido in tag team matches my goodness it’s gotten repetitive. I love them but I prefer seeing them in singles matches
ALL Luchadors work for singles, tag team and trios matches! Get it right. 😂
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 of course and that’s the norm and what’s being identified in Lucha Libre Tradition and Culture but can’t forget the original tradition of Lucha Libre has always been Technical Wrestling Singles Matches…
Mil Máscaras, Canek, Santo, Blue Demon and the Guerreros where all phenomenal Technical Wrestlers that transitioned to other styles and blended very well but now Lucha Libre unfortunately has become spectacles of Acrobatics and less focus on true technicality of wrestling as it was before from those legends of wrestlers that I mentioned
@@faceduro6719 Weren’t they always been doing it?
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 yes but the focus has shifted a lot… we don’t see anymore of those classic storytelling technicality in Lucha Libre it’s now all a circus unfortunately to much focus on aerial moves and flashy moves set and not storytelling in the ring
Speedy moves on em, yo!
Dude at 1:56 has definitely got the important job
MI-STI-COOOO🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Cool pfp.
Fantastic Lucha ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
滅茶苦茶良い試合でした、ミステリオッソ!!!
Mistico -- Sun Serpent!
He forgot to say Mistico is deceptively strong also
Making his AEW debut soon!
🎉mistico 🎉❤❤❤
They should put njpw strong on axs tv
Eso Chingao , Vamos Místico , Orgullosamente Mexicano 😎🇲🇽
Great video.😃
Man I missed the announcement by Tanahashi that Strong tapings were no more. Wonder what that means for the future of the 2 Strong titles
La leyenda regresa por fin 😊
After seeing this, I'd say that it was his mask that was behind his infamous botches.
Plus 2023 super j cup and best of the super jr included jr heavyweight from NJPW NWA and Noah
What is the name of Mistico theme?
We have no idea, he used it when CMLL started to stop using licensed music for TV events (they still do on non taped event or UA-cam exclusives), but the actual name is unknown.
@@Paugose did mistico have the ameno theme or was that caristico?
@@emysta7856 Carístico and this Místico are the same (he regained the blessing from CMLL to use it, since the "Místico Nueva Era" left for AAA), he'd normally use Ameno and still does it in the Mexican indies, but as far as CMLL and New Japan are concerned, he's entering on a production theme, the title is unknown.
As Carístico, he entered on "Me Muero", wich can still be heard during his Místico entrance if he takes too long to get in the ring.
@@Paugose ohh ok.. I'm pretty sure he returned to aew
@@emysta7856 Just to make it simple for the future. The original CMLL Místico was Sin Cara (azul) in WWE, Myzteziz in AAA, Carístico as a freelancer (he legally owns the name) and Místico under CMLL contract.
Místico Nueva Era is the first Dragon Lee, he gave the name to his younger brother (current Dragon Lee) and is now wrestling as Dralístico. Given he's of the Ingobernables family, he may have appeared in AEW.
Don’t watch wwe and can tell they have much different pace and techniques than wwe
Hopefully masacra dorada will get payback on tjp time for he and samuray del sol challenge catch 2/2 for iwgp jr tag team championship in Japan or battle in the valley
Scott Steiner and Rey Mysterio had a baby
Éste debe ser el nieto del Misterioso original ¿O no?
Es sobrino del misterioso original
If mistico used to botch he don’t no mo. Lots of practice! Looks like he doesn’t head first his crazier moves and makes sure he lands. Pretty awesome match
It's called "Not having HHH rushing you to the top because he wanted to make a point and not covering his eyes in the same colors than the gimmick lighting you put in his matches".
the only time he botched was when he was in WWE and most WWE wrestlers at that time werent used to the fighting style of Mistico like they are now
@@Paugose it is sort of the chicken and egg story, the cause and effect of which is unknown. as a child, I had tremendous expectations from him but original sin cara botched on his very first night. it is, they say, to conceal his botches that the lights were dimmed. not to mention his attitude backstage and the language barriers too. he is not the first luchador, nor the last to work with an American promotion. more discipline could have made it.
MUY POCA GENTE Y ESE MISTERIOSO DE DONDE LO SACARON?
De México, creo que ya es veterano o al menos que este sea Jr
De echo habia varia pero los japos son muy callados,es su forma de mostrar respeto
Cuando fue esa lucha
Mexican scott Steiner
Misterioso no es mexicano
@@ingCoatl Entonces?
14:43
Ese misterioso ni de broma se le acerca al original que peleaba en el consejo.
¿Quién es este Misterioso?
is this the original mistico? the one i knew was dark and had curly hair back when i was 7 i saw him and in one in the matches i remember really well he was getting his mask taken off but only showed his hair
yes, this is the original Mistico, he sometimes dyes his hair blonde
okay here we go FIRST😁
Strong style leg slap at 7:06
1:24
Theme song name??
OMG!!!
Mistico is stil super fast
Ese es mi favorito
Mistico II
We would like. Místico vs Chicago Gring o Loc o the Base God
ذmistico🎉🎉❤❤❤
Hopefully tony deppen will return to NJPW strong with Chris Dickson as his partner maybe reforming violence unlimited with homicide as ringside maybe challenge for iwgp world tag team championship or ROH world tag team championship
México México México 🌟.🇲🇽.🌟. Místico Místico Místico. 🪽🤍🪽🇲🇽🌟.👏👏👏.
Por qué misterioso no está en WWE
Puro yogurt 🔥🔥
Sin cara original
Was.
Tunocirve❤❤❤😂😂😅
Este misterioso no es el mismo que el rey del yogurt ?? Este se ve más trabajado pero el rey del yogurt es más ágil apesar de estar mas gordito
Their names sounds like there twins
Mistico already has a twin.
Dralistico.
@@kidz4p509 also mistico’s actual brother argenis
@@DaReal_WiseGuy Really? Never knew that until now.
@@kidz4p509 yeah argenis is the younger brother he’s feuded with myzteziz jr in AAA prolly cause when mistico was in AAA that’s the name he went by
@@kidz4p509 He has Argenis and the Dr. Karontes as brothers and cousins.
Looks like misterioso got blown up
Garcia Laura Anderson Jose Jones Larry
Hopefully to see the return of new Japan cup tournament including new players joining the roster from promotions like NJPW and Noah like satoshi kojima takeshi suigura ROH world television champion Samoa joe Jake something bandido Jax Dane tenzan Timothy thatcher tanahashi kengo marfuji makabe masa kitomiya ishii goto yoshihashi manabu soya sanada shingo takagi Jeff Cobb nagata zack Sabre .jr Tracy Williams Rhett Titus okada tama Tonga David finlay will osprey taichi lawlor Brody king suwama zeus and bad dude Tito
Your hopeful for alot of things
@@joebandy3064 it will work trust me
@@traviswilson36 ok
Gonzalez Amy Clark Cynthia Johnson Cynthia
Name new song Místico.
can kara ❤
Martin Anthony Garcia Barbara Moore Edward
i love sin cara mistico and i no like sin cara hunico.
And they were laughing because Alberto was wrestling in a school. Work is work
EN_VIVO_Estados_Unidos
Es el orginal místico? Lo veo chubi y chaparrito.
Simon es el mismo
ele deve sentir falta da wwe
Déjalo en paz.
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 *começo a cheirar sua calcinha
@@kameroshii O que há de errado com vocês liberais brasileiros/portugueses? 💀
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 ሰላም ደህና ከሰአት
Young Nancy Hernandez Linda Smith Jose
Davis Maria Jackson Edward Martin Patricia
why dont make ot massive?
Gonzalez Timothy Johnson Nancy Thomas Amy
Davis Daniel Davis Robert Martinez Susan
Qué Misterioso es este? No es el rey del yogurt o si?
El rey del yogurth es más gordo y viejo a lado de este
Hall David Perez Scott Clark Donald
Where is mystifucko?
a good math
Johnson Steven Clark Helen Anderson Dorothy
But first finish my beer 🍺😂❤😘😘😘😘😚
I miss sin cara.
Leave him alone already. 🤦🏻♂️
EN_VIVO
ese no es el rey del yogurth
Most rehearsed match I ever saw
What “rehearsal”? 😂
@neverangel24officialytchan87 the whole match was planned out and rehearsed it's like a dance routine
@@WAFFLEZZ_92 Where’s your proof, WWE fan? 😂
Mistico,mistico
Misterioso quiere ser Scott Steiner 😂
LIVe
Nada que ver con misterioso original jaja nunca pensé que el hijo fuera la peor copi chales creo que yo tengo mejor rendimiento en cuerdas y arriva de la tercera cuerda , en si mejor desempeño
No mames nada que ver la JR con el sr
Mistico please come back in wwe
No, leave him alone.
Se tiran solo
WWE Sin Cara
Was.
Ya esta lucha aburre .. tiene razón canek
Isn't mistico sin cara?
No, leave him alone.
Ese misterioso se ve muy fuera de condicion
Sin caras
But I'm going to get ready for bed now 💋 the grown up stuff never ends😢😢😂😂😂😂 😂but I had to miss yesterday sol sick in so I missed Thursday but off yesterday and today but back to reality tomorrow then sol father passed away 😭 ooo bestie sol In I we had two people who we love gone for ever bestie 😢 but I'm Strong female u seen me at my weakness while sick 🤢 but hey I work at United club at the Bush IAH sincara y Ella I ur aka Esther Maria lira caballeros singing out hey my birthday comes up again 🎉🎉🎉❤