I am so proud of they can design in Hong Kong, the lens sharpness works perfectly fine for me. I already own some good quality lens and camera, now I just need something handy for daily use!
yep. it's quite a feat to create a new film camera of this caliber in this era. ❤ our conversation with them, knowing about the challenges they went through really made us appreciate and admire the work much more.
Thank you for the quick look. Honestly, I’m not very impressed by the lens sharpness and overall image quality. The lens focus sound is also a bit painful.
our sample photos in the video may not be the best representation to gauge its 'sharpness', the intention was to show the functions. most were shot in low lighting conditions and we, honestly, are not experienced video editors to know which format video outputs / resolutions would be best for still images in video. 🙏
So its fully manual. Very cool. Only if you want to focus yourself you dont have the option. Love how it has all those settings and is still so organized. Really want one if the AF is very fast and first tests of the lens are out.
fully manual other than manual focusing. The shutter and aperture are manual though. I wonder why the ridges are on the lens ? What good does it do if you cannot manually focus?
Loved the first look. I can't really justify buying an 800-dollar point and shoot - since I've been using a brand new old stock Dynax 505si as one. But I guess I'll have to. LOL P.s.: the thing hasn't even come out yet and how is film community? Complaining. Unfortunately, we can be really very toxic sometimes
@@8storeytree I find it curious that many people in the community complained about the Pentax 17... But Pentax knows how to make excellent glass, and the thing is as sharp as it gets in half frame... Let's see!
@@xtactic indeed. we've read many comments 'complaining' how not sharp the lens is, and are genuinely curious how most people came to that conclusion. We've yet to see / find any proper image comparison between different cameras in same lighting conditions, films, exposure, scanner etc etc. and we're not even talking about using MTF charts. 😅 if there's anyone that can point us to this comparison that we may have missed. 🙏🙏
Interested in AF speed / reliability specially because Photo with Flash (and without / 3:38) is out of focus and with LIDAR it should't have misjudged focus or was this a manual focus photo? thanx
@@costagf really can't remember. Pretty sure it was due to us, the photographers' accidental focus lock, handshakes and mainly, our unfamiliarity with the camera. Sincere apologies for not getting the best samples out from the camera. 🙏🙏
Was thinking to pre order but the advance lever coming in front of the window doesn’t seem to make sense to me. Also the af is so noisy and seems slow too 😢
@@8storeytree I think it's a 35mm re-creation of the old 40/2.8 Zeiss Sonar, which Rollei produced in license. Sad, but true - the old one featured HFT coatings - later iterations, which is like 99% the same as T* multicoatings...as anti-reflective layer. Still, have & shoot my Rollei 35 SE zone focusing camera.
Rollei 35AF camera no longer supports a Carl Zeiss Sonnar lens! Whose lens is it? I have the original Rollei 35S …. exceptional camera! Always carried it on all my long distance walks in the late 70s and 80s!
how would you compare the lens quality interms of image sharpness and contrast compare to the original rollei 40mm lens,,, or to other premium P&S cameras, such as the Contax T3 ??
Apologies, we did not conduct a side by side photoshoot in the same lighting conditions and other factors which may affect image sharpness (film used, scanning etc etc) to really have an accurate comparable information for this. 🙏
Can you tell how the lens sharpness compares to something like a Contax T2/T3? When I read that this was an independent project and the Rollei name was only added/licensed later, I kinda had the feeling the image results would be closer to Lomo than Contax….
Apologies, we did not conduct a side by side photoshoot in the same lighting conditions and other factors which may affect image sharpness (film used, scanning etc) to really have an accurate comparable information for this. 🙏
@@8storeytree No apologies necessary. I was just wondering if you just incidentally happened to have those impressions. I imagine that will come, once you’ve had some more experience with it.
First of all its not that loud the mic is just inches from the servo motor. Second yes it’s expensive but no established company is going to waste money on a new film camera like this nowadays, rollei is no longer really rollei and as far as i can tell Mint just licensed the name. So you’re paying for what is essentially a start up company to take a big risk with tech they created from scratch so give it time, sure if canon or konica made this is would be faster and smaller but they won’t waste their time. That being said of course you could just go buy a hexar af for half the price and you should.
It’s absolutely loud. When you are looking through the view finder and focusing, yeah, your ears are also gonna be just inches away from the servo motor
@@mikes5311 we actually did increase the volume of the camera, winding etc so that it can still be heard over the music. ... U know 😅, like our intro where the camera mechanism could be heard. Adds a feel to the video, so we tot anyway.... that being said, we didn't take notice of the 'loudness' when we were using the camera. But, we also didn't compare against another camera to accurately say it isn't louder. 🙏
@@ryan2stix ah we misunderstood. Anyway, as mentioned in another comment. 🙏🙏 our sample photos in the video may not be the best representation to gauge its 'sharpness', the intention was to show the functions. most were shot in low lighting conditions and we, honestly, are not experienced video editors to know which format video outputs / resolutions would be best for still images in video. 🙏
How can you say "cheap" lens without knowing *anything* about its lens design? typical YT poser comment, for my taste. And i shoot for 40 1/2 years now, FYI. The lens is a 5-element, with multicoatings, which seems to be a 100% copy of the Zeiss Sonar lens design, i shoot with Zeiss since 1989.
The original Rollei 35 was very difficult to focus under f8. I would happily take LIDAR accurate AF instead. Also this still this has all of the manual controls of the original (and more). The original is a mechanical jewel and sadly apart from Leica no one really has that type of manufacturing capability anymore.
@@mvonwalter6927 Plus, 35, 35T and 35S did not cease to exist - thank goodness. They are still there, more affordable for anyone who wants a fully mechanical vintage experience. I, for one, will preorder mine, because I'm a little tired of having to go vintage
@@mvonwalter6927 well said. We do think the original is a gem as well. And this is not a 'replacement'. We do feel that comparison between the old models somehwqt seems unfair simply for the fact of manufacturing capabilities available now and then. Truth is, we do appreciate this camera more after our conversation and understanding the many challenges they had. Really admire the persistence and grit to do something like that in this era. Something we think the community shd appreciate more. ❤️
That is one ugly inept knockoff. The metallic top is too big and disproportionate with respect to the black body. The dials are ugly and lamely symmetrical. And calling it a Rollei is ridiculous.
Best video on the 35AF so far. Thanks!
@@mvonwalter6927 thanks. 🙏 Hope it helped to highlight more on the camera capabilities and functionalities.
Finally someone put it next to a normal Rollei. The lack of manual focus and the slow, loud autofocus is a dealbreaker to me, I think.
@@gamebuster800😁 thanks. Yeh, if preference is manual focusing, then probably the older models would be a better consideration.
@@8storeytree I like autofocus, but I wanted to be either optional, a lot faster or silent
@@gamebuster800 may want to explore contax T3, Minolta tc-1, Leica CM for those.
@@8storeytree Leica CM looks great, thanks for the suggestion!
Can't wait to preorder~
I am so proud of they can design in Hong Kong, the lens sharpness works perfectly fine for me. I already own some good quality lens and camera, now I just need something handy for daily use!
yep. it's quite a feat to create a new film camera of this caliber in this era. ❤ our conversation with them, knowing about the challenges they went through really made us appreciate and admire the work much more.
This looks great!
Thank you for the quick look. Honestly, I’m not very impressed by the lens sharpness and overall image quality. The lens focus sound is also a bit painful.
and slow
our sample photos in the video may not be the best representation to gauge its 'sharpness', the intention was to show the functions. most were shot in low lighting conditions and we, honestly, are not experienced video editors to know which format video outputs / resolutions would be best for still images in video. 🙏
So its fully manual. Very cool. Only if you want to focus yourself you dont have the option. Love how it has all those settings and is still so organized. Really want one if the AF is very fast and first tests of the lens are out.
fully manual other than manual focusing. The shutter and aperture are manual though. I wonder why the ridges are on the lens ? What good does it do if you cannot manually focus?
@lelandfitz1762 yep, sadly, u can't manual focus. Though you could use the focus lock to kinda do the trick. Eg 1/3 photos.
@@8storeytree Ok, focus lock sounds cool. Didn't know that was possible. Is there a AF button or do you keep shutter button half pressed?
@@lelandfitz1762 just the half press.
@@8storeytree very cool. thanks for the info
i think the long time feature is neat
we enjoy long exposures too.
Loved the first look. I can't really justify buying an 800-dollar point and shoot - since I've been using a brand new old stock Dynax 505si as one. But I guess I'll have to. LOL
P.s.: the thing hasn't even come out yet and how is film community? Complaining. Unfortunately, we can be really very toxic sometimes
yep. we personally do have some feedbacks that we highlighted to Mint as well after the hands-on. Hopefully they can be improved in the final version.
@@8storeytree I find it curious that many people in the community complained about the Pentax 17... But Pentax knows how to make excellent glass, and the thing is as sharp as it gets in half frame... Let's see!
@@xtactic indeed. we've read many comments 'complaining' how not sharp the lens is, and are genuinely curious how most people came to that conclusion. We've yet to see / find any proper image comparison between different cameras in same lighting conditions, films, exposure, scanner etc etc. and we're not even talking about using MTF charts. 😅 if there's anyone that can point us to this comparison that we may have missed. 🙏🙏
This is not a point and shoot
@@fukolombobby then what is it?
Interested in AF speed / reliability specially because Photo with Flash (and without / 3:38) is out of focus and with LIDAR it should't have misjudged focus or was this a manual focus photo? thanx
They seemed to have shot those two photos in Auto mode. Could the first photo be a bit blurry due to a longer exposure?
@@costagf really can't remember. Pretty sure it was due to us, the photographers' accidental focus lock, handshakes and mainly, our unfamiliarity with the camera. Sincere apologies for not getting the best samples out from the camera. 🙏🙏
Was thinking to pre order but the advance lever coming in front of the window doesn’t seem to make sense to me. Also the af is so noisy and seems slow too 😢
yep. the advance lever is not like most of the 35mm film cameras. though, it's actually similiar to the previous Rollei 35.
What are your thoughts on it vs the original one?
@@ezekielkokspeaksthink it shdnt be compared with it's predecessors. It's really a different camera in terms of how the camera works.
i thought the whole point is adding AF but keeping the lens same? do you know what lenses these have?
@@klohto 5-element glass lens
@@8storeytree I think it's a 35mm re-creation of the old 40/2.8 Zeiss Sonar, which Rollei produced in license. Sad, but true - the old one featured HFT coatings - later iterations, which is like 99% the same as T* multicoatings...as anti-reflective layer. Still, have & shoot my Rollei 35 SE zone focusing camera.
Rollei 35AF camera no longer supports a Carl Zeiss Sonnar lens! Whose lens is it?
I have the original Rollei 35S …. exceptional camera! Always carried it on all my long distance walks in the late 70s and 80s!
How to know where I am focusing on？The AF system seems do not show the length between the camera and objects.
nope. it doesnt. (not on this early test unit anyway.)
@@8storeytree yep，thankyou for your reply
how would you compare the lens quality interms of image sharpness and contrast compare to the original rollei 40mm lens,,, or to other premium P&S cameras, such as the Contax T3 ??
Apologies, we did not conduct a side by side photoshoot in the same lighting conditions and other factors which may affect image sharpness (film used, scanning etc etc) to really have an accurate comparable information for this. 🙏
I doubt the lens is made in Germany now. Also sad the hot shoe has been removed.
@@bwest6275 unlikely in Germany. Agree on the hotshot, would've been good if the hotshoe is included.
I'll stick to my $320 green label Contax G1. I don't mind carrying it around in my Nomatic 1 liter sling.
nice camera. we can never find it at that price here.
Would you recommend this as a "first" film camera for someone? (I've had plenty over the years, but I mean in the abstract).
@@ChrisBrogan it's pretty simple to use if the intention is just using the auto mode.
@@8storeytree - oh, I like to muck with the manual mode, but I start the first roll in auto.
Not sure if a 800bucks camera is the right choice for a first film camera
Can you tell how the lens sharpness compares to something like a Contax T2/T3? When I read that this was an independent project and the Rollei name was only added/licensed later, I kinda had the feeling the image results would be closer to Lomo than Contax….
Apologies, we did not conduct a side by side photoshoot in the same lighting conditions and other factors which may affect image sharpness (film used, scanning etc) to really have an accurate comparable information for this. 🙏
@@8storeytree No apologies necessary. I was just wondering if you just incidentally happened to have those impressions. I imagine that will come, once you’ve had some more experience with it.
@@CentaurusRelax314 hopefully we're able to do more comparison test soon with the final camera.
Awesome camera but again, you can find Olympus XA for much more affordable price even with flash unit
yep. price wise we totally agree if the comparison is between a vintage pns camera. we do own many other cameras too. 😅 too many in fact.
First of all its not that loud the mic is just inches from the servo motor. Second yes it’s expensive but no established company is going to waste money on a new film camera like this nowadays, rollei is no longer really rollei and as far as i can tell Mint just licensed the name. So you’re paying for what is essentially a start up company to take a big risk with tech they created from scratch so give it time, sure if canon or konica made this is would be faster and smaller but they won’t waste their time. That being said of course you could just go buy a hexar af for half the price and you should.
It’s absolutely loud. When you are looking through the view finder and focusing, yeah, your ears are also gonna be just inches away from the servo motor
@@essensse do you have one?
@@mikes5311 we actually did increase the volume of the camera, winding etc so that it can still be heard over the music. ... U know 😅, like our intro where the camera mechanism could be heard. Adds a feel to the video, so we tot anyway....
that being said, we didn't take notice of the 'loudness' when we were using the camera. But, we also didn't compare against another camera to accurately say it isn't louder. 🙏
Rollei leaving all the fun in 2024, Rollei said goodbye Film, we also...goodbye Rollei, Long live Lomography!!!
we love lomography too.
Noises it makes is horrible
@@ivanfenenko yeh. we prefer the cat holga sound.
Well... I was really excited for this camera... lens is very loud, and all the photos are soft.. pass
could you share the photos you took with the camera for us to take a look? ❤
@@8storeytree I'm going off this video..lens is loud and photos are all soft
@@ryan2stix ah we misunderstood. Anyway, as mentioned in another comment. 🙏🙏 our sample photos in the video may not be the best representation to gauge its 'sharpness', the intention was to show the functions. most were shot in low lighting conditions and we, honestly, are not experienced video editors to know which format video outputs / resolutions would be best for still images in video. 🙏
Annoying sound, cheap lens => not for me
@@jls2975 how much is the lens?
How can you say "cheap" lens without knowing *anything* about its lens design? typical YT poser comment, for my taste. And i shoot for 40 1/2 years now, FYI. The lens is a 5-element, with multicoatings, which seems to be a 100% copy of the Zeiss Sonar lens design, i shoot with Zeiss since 1989.
Such a pity, Rollei changed a fully manual and joyful camera into a boring hello kitty point and shot camera and selling it for $790. Disappointed
@@Ham-yj1oda hello kitty version would be exciting!!
The original Rollei 35 was very difficult to focus under f8. I would happily take LIDAR accurate AF instead. Also this still this has all of the manual controls of the original (and more). The original is a mechanical jewel and sadly apart from Leica no one really has that type of manufacturing capability anymore.
@@mvonwalter6927 Plus, 35, 35T and 35S did not cease to exist - thank goodness. They are still there, more affordable for anyone who wants a fully mechanical vintage experience. I, for one, will preorder mine, because I'm a little tired of having to go vintage
@@mvonwalter6927 well said. We do think the original is a gem as well. And this is not a 'replacement'. We do feel that comparison between the old models somehwqt seems unfair simply for the fact of manufacturing capabilities available now and then. Truth is, we do appreciate this camera more after our conversation and understanding the many challenges they had. Really admire the persistence and grit to do something like that in this era.
Something we think the community shd appreciate more. ❤️
@@8storeytree it reminds me of broccoli, because I hate broccoli 😁
That is one ugly inept knockoff. The metallic top is too big and disproportionate with respect to the black body. The dials are ugly and lamely symmetrical. And calling it a Rollei is ridiculous.
@@johnbarber1824u've seen rollei 35 cameras right?
I just preordered the all black model.
@@stephendrahos9000 black looks nice!
@@stephendrahos9000 lucky, I am to late, it seems already sold out?
Yes. Sold out. But you add your name to the preorder list
Can we not see you pick up and put down the camera so many times?!!
close ur eyes
chinese huh?
too noisy too slow too bulky better to have Pentax 17
when u compare 'slow' and 'bulky' to a half frame, manual zone focusing Pentax 17. 😅