After hearing Dess's part, I just realized... She was smiling, I guess that means she will be resting.. with her sister. Yet, happy to see her once again.
"Noelle asks her father about a life without her. His tone becomes grim and sad" "Even though their relationship has degraded, she will always consider Kris a great friend." "Maybe... Maybe everything is going to be okay." These ones in particular prompt me to tears. Honestly can't believe im crying at a fight that starts with the kinda goofy creepypasta premise of Noelle turning evil from power. The music is the main cause of it but the entire ending sequence is just beautiful. Just imagining the aftermath of this but Kris and Susie are genuinely so fucked. Noelle is dead, Berdly fell down. They're the only two that saw them. The prophecy is absolutely demolished at this point, especially if Noelle-Angel is correct.
I dont think the theme of deltarune is your choices don't matter I think it's that Kris' choices don't matter No matter what Kris wants, it's what you choose that determines the outcome of the world And I love this as an extension to snowgrave Whereas genocide in Undertale wanted to make you give up, this wanted to make you feel guilt You just keep on taking and taking until finally, the game takes something from you But what does it matter? It's just a game The characters aren't real The world isn't real Any consequences can be undone ... We have to see what happens, isn't that right? We have to keep going, just because we can What does the death of a fictional character matter? We've already killed hundreds, so why stop now?
Fun Fact :: In the OG game DELTARUNE, you can go to the Hospital, and if you choose to explore in it, you meet Rudy[NOELLE’s DAD] and if you chat with him, he says smth like to protect her
You can also take Susie to the hospital to talk to Rudy at the end of chapter 2 and he tells her about what Noelle likes But if you do a snowgrave run and take noelles watch then equip it to Kris you get a special cutscene where Noelle asks how you got it and realizes the dark world wasn't a dream
Out of all fangame tracks i've heard, I think this one gives off the most of a feeling of "What have I've done?" A feeling I only ever got when I killed Papyrus in genocide for the first time 10/10 work.
I thought that Noelle was gonna come back alive and well. I DIDNT EXPECT HER TO ACTUALLY DIE! BUT DANG I LOVE THAT THEY HAD THE GUTS TO DO THAT! FOR THE CANON ENDING OF THIS AU! THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB! This was an excellent fangame and it was absolutely worth the wait.
This gives me those feelings when you never gonna get happy ending, no matter what, everything comes to bad outcome. this soundtrack really touches with those feelings. Thanks for this beautiful game, and soundtrack!
This is an absolute masterpiece! I both love and hate the fact that we are saving Noelle (even with that “as fast as possible” challenge) just to face that heartbreaking ending. Thank you so much for that game, I might love it more than actual deltarune. Music is on the different level, tho. This soundtrack alone made me cry for two times already, but I just can’t stop listening. You guys really did a great job!
I love that the game just rubs it in your face and lets you know it was your fault Just like Undertale, you didnt have to get the genocide ending, but you wanted to know what would happen It shows you that curiosity is just an excuse By actively devaluing the people and treating them as nothing more than code and fictional characters you're ruining the experience for not only them but yourself I like that it can still have a good ending, and you can still redeem yourself for doing snowgrave But should you play through as fast as possible and continue to treat it like just a game you only suffer more consequences
Sad Fact: The emotional part in susie's part is actually a part in her theme. The fact that thee devs actually made it sound so sad beyond recognition amazes me. Like from intimidating to emotional 😭😭😭
Came here to say, honestly favourite part of the ost, like. the motifs hit different,esp the kris part. ((To everyone else who worked on this, holy heck. yall are goated at what you do, keep cooking!!!🙏))
This song really just feels unfair None of this was noelles fault, she didn't have to die She died because of us, the player We played the snowgrave route, we knew the path we were going down, yet we expect a happy ending I honestly wasn't shocked that Noelle died All of this was our fault and we made other people hurt through our actions but we still act surprised and feel remorseful when it actually affects us This song doesn't invoke remorse, it invokes guilt I find it specifically interesting on Kris' section Noelle asks him about his pranks (something he did before we controlled him) and the attack is music notes accompanied by a piano melody, playing the piano is something kris loved to do before we controlled them But noelles next question is why he did the things he did, why he did a snowgrave route Kris didn't, we did And the attack that follow reflects that, Kris' attacks in an actual battle The attacks and actions he does when we command him to do so I think I finally figured something out The theme of deltarune isn't that your choices don't matter It's that the characters choices don't matter No matter what any of the characters do, it's what you choose that determines the outcome of the world I'd also like to quickly note the rest of the memories, specifically the music Spamton adds a jazzy main melody that takes the forefront, showing his importance in this role and sounding relatively normal compared to most of spamtons music, showing the spamton that was there before he went down the same path of trying to break free from the games control Kris adds a soft piano, again, showing kriss before we interfered with the world Berdly adds some strings that boost the effect of the main theme, showing that he always truly believes himself as inferior to Noelle, knowing that it was only because of her that he could be smart Rudy adds a soft synth playing don't forget, a fitting theme as Rudy is passing and doesn't want Noelle to forget the good memories, and now that Noelle is also dying those memories are something she cherishes, both good and bad Susie adds a hard synth that overshadows the original melody, showing how Susie is oblivious to Noelle liking her The melody is of Susie's own theme which adds even more to this idea It doesn't fit in well and feels offkey at times as well, perhaps if Noelle had a little more time, the melodies could fit together a bit better And lastly, dess adds a violin, an inherently sad sounding instrument, normally used for farewell songs, as everything slowly fades out alongside Noelle This song is perfect, although probably not as deep as I thought But it still makes me feel guilty, knowing that noelles death was the players fault, and that she didnt deserve it
I no one seriously going to talk about Noelle's parents, who have now lost both their children? Like Rudy will now likely lose all motivation to stay alive And what about her mother? She was already cold and all but i honestly can't imagine how she will be after realizing her last daughter disappeared to never be seen again
Noelle died. So what? Its just the death of another fictional character Thats all she is The characters arent real The world isnt real And by playing a snowgrave route youve proven how true that is to you You devalued this world and the lives of the characters within it You could go back at any time You could save noelle, you could just not get this ending But why would you do that when youve already come this far? After all, you have to know what happens. Youre only doing all this because you HAVE to know, isnt that right? The way you get this ending even represents that Youre playong through as fast as possible in as few turns as possible, because its just a game, why draw it out when we can complete it and move on to the next? You all feel sad that noelle died but not one of you feels guilty, because you know that you have to keep going After all, its just a game Its not like you actually ruined a life Why would you turn back now after youve already gone this far?
This Song gave me hard chills, it reminded me of the end of earthbound where ness saw his parents naming him. EDIT:Also I love the dess part at the end where noelle gives in when she sees her sister
(in a hypothetical sequel) Susie: * ... * ... * Noelle... * ... * Kris... I need to go for a while. * In the meantime you can, uh... * ...seal the fountain or something. (leaves) Ralsei: * Kris... * I'm gonna go check on Susie. (leaves) Kris: * ... * ...you... * This is all *YOUR* fault. * You were the one who started all of this. * You said I could trust you... * You failed. * Now... time to face the *CONSEQUENCES.* (battle against Kris begins)
That's the exact mentality undertale and deltarune try to keep you away from You treat it like it's just a game and devalue the characters and the lives they live within, so if you don't care about them then why should the game expect you to be sad when one dies?
@@kauedasilva1072its too late Just like Undertale, the game gives you every chance to reset, every chance to not go through with the bad route, but you have to know what happens, you have to get every single ending, you have to complete it because it's just a game, and it's not real That's the exact mentality behind the Undertale genocide and deltarune snowgrave routes Sure, if you really have decided to give up or decided its not worth it then the game has done its job, but the game will always remind you of how far you went, and you'll always live with the guilt
That goes against the entire purpose You played through the game like it was just a game, you did snowgrave, and you played the fan game as fast as possible just to see every ending, you devalued the game and the lives of the characters within, why should it reward you
Simbel, do you have a Discord Server? Also, is where I can find every character's version of warm melodies with the ending high-pitched motif being part of it?
I don't have a personal one but I'm active on the server of the Kristal engine, which was used for Frozen Heart And those parts don't exist, Dess's part is a unique part of the song that serves as its ending
"...Susie is going to use her healing magic to heal her to full HP, right?"
"...right?"
Heavy weapons guy
@@rafaelbr3563 Bonnie FNaF
Merg waiting a happy ending
* Maybe...
* Maybe everything is going to be okay.
After hearing Dess's part, I just realized... She was smiling, I guess that means she will be resting.. with her sister. Yet, happy to see her once again.
"Noelle asks her father about a life without her. His tone becomes grim and sad"
"Even though their relationship has degraded, she will always consider Kris a great friend."
"Maybe... Maybe everything is going to be okay."
These ones in particular prompt me to tears. Honestly can't believe im crying at a fight that starts with the kinda goofy creepypasta premise of Noelle turning evil from power.
The music is the main cause of it but the entire ending sequence is just beautiful.
Just imagining the aftermath of this but Kris and Susie are genuinely so fucked. Noelle is dead, Berdly fell down. They're the only two that saw them. The prophecy is absolutely demolished at this point, especially if Noelle-Angel is correct.
The fact that after she asks her father about a life without her and the attack is a literal heart attack is just painful as well
That fangame perfectly showed what even if your choice in deltarune is doesn't matter, they still will bring the consequences
I dont think the theme of deltarune is your choices don't matter
I think it's that Kris' choices don't matter
No matter what Kris wants, it's what you choose that determines the outcome of the world
And I love this as an extension to snowgrave
Whereas genocide in Undertale wanted to make you give up, this wanted to make you feel guilt
You just keep on taking and taking until finally, the game takes something from you
But what does it matter? It's just a game
The characters aren't real
The world isn't real
Any consequences can be undone
...
We have to see what happens, isn't that right?
We have to keep going, just because we can
What does the death of a fictional character matter? We've already killed hundreds, so why stop now?
Fun Fact :: In the OG game DELTARUNE, you can go to the Hospital, and if you choose to explore in it, you meet Rudy[NOELLE’s DAD] and if you chat with him, he says smth like to protect her
You can also take Susie to the hospital to talk to Rudy at the end of chapter 2 and he tells her about what Noelle likes
But if you do a snowgrave run and take noelles watch then equip it to Kris you get a special cutscene where Noelle asks how you got it and realizes the dark world wasn't a dream
Out of all fangame tracks i've heard, I think this one gives off the most of a feeling of "What have I've done?" A feeling I only ever got when I killed Papyrus in genocide for the first time
10/10 work.
Not sure if this is intentional, but Kris's segment having piano notes was a VERY nice touch lore AND sound-wise
It's intentional! Kris is always related to pianos in Deltarune
@@Simbel "A concert just for me..."
@picoultimate7707 I remember seeing some of your comments on a sonic.exe spirits of hell video. neat
I thought that Noelle was gonna come back alive and well. I DIDNT EXPECT HER TO ACTUALLY DIE! BUT DANG I LOVE THAT THEY HAD THE GUTS TO DO THAT! FOR THE CANON ENDING OF THIS AU! THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB! This was an excellent fangame and it was absolutely worth the wait.
when heard that dusting sound at the end my heart fucking broke in two man.
i literally yelled a audible “NOOOOO” when i heard it.
jesus man…
I wasn't expecting the secret ending to go down THIS path
I almost cried here. Don't think there has been any other deltarune fangame capable of that.
actually felt kinda sad even though it's a fangame, but i cheered up when discovered the little susie and noelle dating minigame in extras lol
This gives me those feelings when you never gonna get happy ending, no matter what, everything comes to bad outcome.
this soundtrack really touches with those feelings.
Thanks for this beautiful game, and soundtrack!
This is an absolute masterpiece! I both love and hate the fact that we are saving Noelle (even with that “as fast as possible” challenge) just to face that heartbreaking ending. Thank you so much for that game, I might love it more than actual deltarune. Music is on the different level, tho. This soundtrack alone made me cry for two times already, but I just can’t stop listening. You guys really did a great job!
Your words are still making me more interested in deltarune, however, YEAH, I'VE FOUND IT:)
I love that the game just rubs it in your face and lets you know it was your fault
Just like Undertale, you didnt have to get the genocide ending, but you wanted to know what would happen
It shows you that curiosity is just an excuse
By actively devaluing the people and treating them as nothing more than code and fictional characters you're ruining the experience for not only them but yourself
I like that it can still have a good ending, and you can still redeem yourself for doing snowgrave
But should you play through as fast as possible and continue to treat it like just a game you only suffer more consequences
I loved this track while playing Frozen Heart, such a good track, really liked the memories own themes showing up when they were there.
Sad Fact: The emotional part in susie's part is actually a part in her theme. The fact that thee devs actually made it sound so sad beyond recognition amazes me. Like from intimidating to emotional 😭😭😭
Oh it’s in vs. Susie as well right? Good find!
@@adeeshahasaral9031 yeah I actually meant the vs Susie theme but without realizing the same part is in Susie's theme😅 so good job to you too🥳
@@thunderbase1916 thx for making me notice! Vs. Susie is actually one of my favorite songs in deltarune.
@@adeeshahasaral9031 knowing this fast maga vs Susie and this song even sadder🥲
When the "area zero" part kicked in I felt this comment
Came here to say, honestly favourite part of the ost, like. the motifs hit different,esp the kris part.
((To everyone else who worked on this, holy heck. yall are goated at what you do, keep cooking!!!🙏))
This song really just feels unfair
None of this was noelles fault, she didn't have to die
She died because of us, the player
We played the snowgrave route, we knew the path we were going down, yet we expect a happy ending
I honestly wasn't shocked that Noelle died
All of this was our fault and we made other people hurt through our actions but we still act surprised and feel remorseful when it actually affects us
This song doesn't invoke remorse, it invokes guilt
I find it specifically interesting on Kris' section
Noelle asks him about his pranks (something he did before we controlled him) and the attack is music notes accompanied by a piano melody, playing the piano is something kris loved to do before we controlled them
But noelles next question is why he did the things he did, why he did a snowgrave route
Kris didn't, we did
And the attack that follow reflects that, Kris' attacks in an actual battle
The attacks and actions he does when we command him to do so
I think I finally figured something out
The theme of deltarune isn't that your choices don't matter
It's that the characters choices don't matter
No matter what any of the characters do, it's what you choose that determines the outcome of the world
I'd also like to quickly note the rest of the memories, specifically the music
Spamton adds a jazzy main melody that takes the forefront, showing his importance in this role and sounding relatively normal compared to most of spamtons music, showing the spamton that was there before he went down the same path of trying to break free from the games control
Kris adds a soft piano, again, showing kriss before we interfered with the world
Berdly adds some strings that boost the effect of the main theme, showing that he always truly believes himself as inferior to Noelle, knowing that it was only because of her that he could be smart
Rudy adds a soft synth playing don't forget, a fitting theme as Rudy is passing and doesn't want Noelle to forget the good memories, and now that Noelle is also dying those memories are something she cherishes, both good and bad
Susie adds a hard synth that overshadows the original melody, showing how Susie is oblivious to Noelle liking her
The melody is of Susie's own theme which adds even more to this idea
It doesn't fit in well and feels offkey at times as well, perhaps if Noelle had a little more time, the melodies could fit together a bit better
And lastly, dess adds a violin, an inherently sad sounding instrument, normally used for farewell songs, as everything slowly fades out alongside Noelle
This song is perfect, although probably not as deep as I thought
But it still makes me feel guilty, knowing that noelles death was the players fault, and that she didnt deserve it
I no one seriously going to talk about Noelle's parents, who have now lost both their children?
Like Rudy will now likely lose all motivation to stay alive
And what about her mother? She was already cold and all but i honestly can't imagine how she will be after realizing her last daughter disappeared to never be seen again
the only ending where noelle dies
Don’t worry, berdly died too, in every ending I believe as well
you know im finish the secret rout again and again, but every time when im come here im crying, its a amazing fangame.
spoilers for the secret ending, obviously
when I played this i was saying "why did i get 1 exp... WHY DID I GET ONE EXP..."
and then "oh thats why..."
my reaction was like "wait isn't it supposed to be 0 EXP and 1 D$...? wait... WAIT A MINUTE- WAIT NOOOOO"
Lore of Deltarune Frozen Heart OST - Warm Memories by @razorxo6714 momentum 100
Noelle died.
So what?
Its just the death of another fictional character
Thats all she is
The characters arent real
The world isnt real
And by playing a snowgrave route youve proven how true that is to you
You devalued this world and the lives of the characters within it
You could go back at any time
You could save noelle, you could just not get this ending
But why would you do that when youve already come this far?
After all, you have to know what happens. Youre only doing all this because you HAVE to know, isnt that right?
The way you get this ending even represents that
Youre playong through as fast as possible in as few turns as possible, because its just a game, why draw it out when we can complete it and move on to the next?
You all feel sad that noelle died but not one of you feels guilty, because you know that you have to keep going
After all, its just a game
Its not like you actually ruined a life
Why would you turn back now after youve already gone this far?
Thank you
finally thank you so much for
It’s been 3 months
Are you gonna finish your comment?
This Song gave me hard chills, it reminded me of the end of earthbound where ness saw his parents naming him.
EDIT:Also I love the dess part at the end where noelle gives in when she sees her sister
How did you get chills!? it was suppose to WARM you! Aw man!!!
(in a hypothetical sequel)
Susie:
* ...
* ...
* Noelle...
* ...
* Kris... I need to go for a while.
* In the meantime you can, uh...
* ...seal the fountain or something.
(leaves)
Ralsei:
* Kris...
* I'm gonna go check on Susie.
(leaves)
Kris:
* ...
* ...you...
* This is all *YOUR* fault.
* You were the one who started all of this.
* You said I could trust you...
* You failed.
* Now... time to face the *CONSEQUENCES.*
(battle against Kris begins)
At least she's with Dess now.
Maybe
We aren’t really sure if Dess is dead or not.
Dess is probably has "gone missing" and is a "goner"and with gaster now
This song killed me man
Quite warm
WAIT IS THE CHECK DESCRIPTION FORESHADOWING
"I'm a grown ass man! I will not cry! That's right, I'll play the secret route with a stone cold face!
Me 1 hour later:
That's the exact mentality undertale and deltarune try to keep you away from
You treat it like it's just a game and devalue the characters and the lives they live within, so if you don't care about them then why should the game expect you to be sad when one dies?
This would seem like a good reason for the Player to RESET.
Why not see how the light world interactions change because noelle isnt around?
@@dylanzlol7293 It wouldn’t be worth it in my opinion…
@@kauedasilva1072its too late
Just like Undertale, the game gives you every chance to reset, every chance to not go through with the bad route, but you have to know what happens, you have to get every single ending, you have to complete it because it's just a game, and it's not real
That's the exact mentality behind the Undertale genocide and deltarune snowgrave routes
Sure, if you really have decided to give up or decided its not worth it then the game has done its job, but the game will always remind you of how far you went, and you'll always live with the guilt
I was wondering if i could die here, i tried but wean i get low the attack ends and i keep healing, thats a bummer i wish there was a secret here ngl
You can't die when you're already 99% dead
Ik but still would have been cool to add a secret like, BOO YOU SUCK, or something idk 🤷♂️
30-35 minutes in the actual fight just to die in the memory section
that would not be very fun
@@Simbel until the end...
The most sad Deltarune fangame.... Change my mind...
🥺
Simbel I’m begging you to make a good ending to the secret route please.
Nah
@@Simbel NOOOOOOOOOOO
well guess we only have to make our own:
my idea which is also not original is "Ultimate Heal"
That goes against the entire purpose
You played through the game like it was just a game, you did snowgrave, and you played the fan game as fast as possible just to see every ending, you devalued the game and the lives of the characters within, why should it reward you
Simbel, do you have a Discord Server?
Also, is where I can find every character's version of warm melodies with the ending high-pitched motif being part of it?
I don't have a personal one but I'm active on the server of the Kristal engine, which was used for Frozen Heart
And those parts don't exist, Dess's part is a unique part of the song that serves as its ending
@@Simbel It's fine, I was just curious was all. Did you create the music, or someone else?
@@PixelSlasher3790 The music was made by Glazko/Razor Xo
December 31st 1997
Dess is alive 1997
can I upload the frozen heart ost to sound cloud? i will credit you and the composers