I think most of the Zims came to South Africa, studied the laws of South Africa and now they are attacking the South African government with their own laws. 1st ZEP, 2nd both Zim parents giving birth in South Africa want their children born in SA to be given SA birth certificate, 3rdly now fighting the RAF‼️Their entitlement demands is at another level but yet they failed to fight for those demands in their own country hence they fled to SA. What is the next thing that they are intending to fight for ⁉️
South Africa is too kind. This does not happen anywhere in the world. In Europe you insure yourself before you land. This is too much for a developing country like South Africa.
Just across the border in Botswana your car pays for insurance etc as a RSA person visiting and its not cheap either. RSA please get your house in order.
After this we want the department of health to do the same… let foreigners take health insurance wether they use private or public we cant we just cant take care of the entire continent
what do foreigners know about RAF, free health care, free education etc and when did they started thinking that they deserves all those social services? So why should we even discuss this issues with such poor hungry desperate failed nations??
Might be challenged? how do you challenge foreign laws while failing to address and challenge laws at home? 😂 These are the so-called most educated Zimbabweans? a joke 🤣🤣🤣
Helen Suzman is a Jewish foundation and therefore they will push any agenda that makes what they do in Palestine seem legal and moral. Jews were refugees in Palestine and later took the land bit by bit. HSF know Zimbabweans will eventually do the same in SA in 50yrs hence they support them.
Dr Sibanda, which country you from and does your country have Road Accident? If they do, please let us know if they cover foreign Nationals, Basically I know that is not the fact in your country and go a d start to fight there. Once you win in your own country may be we can listen. We've also lived in other country, but we as SAns we don't dictate to other countries, we live, we work or study and be jolly. That how we do things, give SA some respect please.
@@pakisoramatlo5556very true… that’s what I don’t understand about Zimbabweans they like to sound brilliant … and sadly they can’t help themselves… many Zimbabweans says the ones like this Dr Sibanda are Shonas… know it all’s
Nope… S Zimbabwean women said she’s cursed to have been born in Zim … she said it’s bad she doesn’t like it… I felt sorry for her sham… but the ones like sibanda are going to make South Africans very angry with their wide opened big mouths
Yes...I think it must....coz the huge amount was going to idiots foreigners....so once that is stopped then the advantage must be felt by the south Africans....
But really South Africa is dump serious we citizens are on the receiving end of the stick we pay tax every month...how has this been happening??the foreign nationals have been receiving RAF while most of them have been not paying tax....they receive Sasa grant aswell 😢they should be a insurance that covers for people using the roads like its happening in other countries....
Is it sass’s or asylum… and asylum is way more than sass’s grant… that’s why they won’t leave ever… they are in paradise… I think they eish to swap places … because one said to me one day why don’t you South Africans go to zim and take out mnsngwagwa… I said we have our own
Remember they came in disguise asking the permits for a year … after year it was another year … now they are in courts even won the case… fortunately with what they won … they won’t ever get citizenship…
Sibanda s argument is empty and STUPID. He is talking about fuel levy ? So he is ONLY considering those who are driving. What about PEDESTRIANS????. Is time for sibanda to GO. WE ARE DONE WITH FOREIGHNERS. VERY EXCELLENT ANSWER USING WORDS LIKE CAN'T.
If you can ask him about Zimbabwe, I am pretty sure there is less that he can say about it, but no, when it is South Africa, he has a lot to tell. Shame on him.
If they pay only to foreign nations with bank it means they are pay foreign nationals are legal. To obtain bank account you must have valid permit to work and study. All Raf needs to request Home Affairs ability to verify.
You pay your insurance in Canada, Europe and USA so this got nothing do with legal or illegal, same way you are working illegal in SA and manage to win cases in CCMA it's same way you have been claiming
Dr Sibanda much appreciated....I'm pride of you as African and more intelligent than RAF Official infact he saying you want lecture them lol while u giving him a clear picture....thanks again Dr Sibanda u are far from them....
How long to take someone to get paid because my brother's son he was involved in the road ecident 2016 till today he doesn't head from the lawyers nothing
As an undocumented foreigner, how do you even grt paid yhst money. How do they receive the funds because I assume they do not have a bank account? 😢 He is basically agreeing that they have been LAZY do the minimum due diligence. Ridiculous😢
Do we comment on your country of origin???,do we feel untitled to your countries interests and policies??do we comment on governmental changes and legal amendments????
Fake documents are working in South Africa. They have r d p houses. Fake degrees are working in South Africa. Bogus doctors are working in South Africa. R A F is working for them. Most Spaza shops owners are driving cars on the road ask yourself.
Be careful, that’s not the only thing the bill say. It also says that if Sibusiso gets involved in an accident and have his leg amputated, he cannot be paid for those injuries anymore.
This bill will probably not pass because of the legality of it , if you contribute towards something and there's payment or coverage that is meant for you incase of an accident I think fair play should come in this context and the person or whatever the system is supposed to cover must come in play , yes South Africans feel like they are carrying the entire continent but in this instance the individual actually contributes towards the cause thus deserves his fair share of the pie , I didn't know that you could claim outside of your insurance provider but in this case the state is actually at fault why is a public institution dealing with issues concerning insurance , first how do you know how much an individual has contributed regardless of their status in the country insurance should be left to private entities and fuel levies should be used to maintain roads not be kept in fund to pay people South Africans or foreigners , now we have an issue that just stares up hate while it a faulty system .
I go to England 🇬🇧 I buy food, petrol ⛽️, pay rent etc does that mean I qualify for their road accident insurance policy 😅 😳 😐 😬 🤔, it's like you doing RSA a favor by coming then you'll tell them how they should do things and cover you by force. It's unfair and a wrong mentality 😢
Black South Africa will regret this immensely... If you not prepared to back the IFP or VF this election you going to find that whites will no longer comply. You never won any war, arms we downed and Julius Malemas threats and arrogance doesn't scare whites on the contrary if forces whites to act! Someone better stop lying to black youth and explain to them what will happen. Not one minority will accept this, this election will not be overlooked many are ready and ethno states is the only way forward now
The entitlement and arrogance from this Sibanda guy is disgusting. I applaud the spokesperson, he stood his ground
RAF lost the case with cost
I like the RAF spokesperson, SA has really created an entitlement problem
Yes that's the problem, now these foreign nationals they have the audacity to challenge SA in every decision SA makes against them.
U correct an accident is not a right😀😀😀 so the bill will fail.
@@mtttttttttttte6205those illegal foreign nationals should have insurance like how it’s done in other countries not burden SA …ur too entitled
RAF lost the case with cost
It is quite strange that they want what they don't have in their country.
It’s amazing
Imagine
That’s why they flee their countries to come Cruze here … while we don’t enjoy the same in their countries
I think most of the Zims came to South Africa, studied the laws of South Africa and now they are attacking the South African government with their own laws. 1st ZEP, 2nd both Zim parents giving birth in South Africa want their children born in SA to be given SA birth certificate, 3rdly now fighting the RAF‼️Their entitlement demands is at another level but yet they failed to fight for those demands in their own country hence they fled to SA. What is the next thing that they are intending to fight for ⁉️
RAF lost the case with cost
On behalf of all South Africans, I vote for this Bill.
RAF lost the case with cost
Foreign nationals entitled to free health care free education free everything sis maan they have no shame
Not at all. These are the people who claim to be more educated than South Africans
All countries compels foreigners entering their country to purchase insurance for the duration. Why should South Africa be an exception?
Mr Polela handled Sibanda very well and with intellect. Thank you SA for standing up
South Africa is too kind. This does not happen anywhere in the world. In Europe you insure yourself before you land. This is too much for a developing country like South Africa.
Most South Africans will vote in favour of this bill.
Yes why not… I don’t think their claims were legitimate… the way they scam! Especially Ghanaians & Nigerians
Thank RaF make sure that foreign nationals stop this entitlement nonsense
RAF lost the case with cost
Just across the border in Botswana your car pays for insurance etc as a RSA person visiting and its not cheap either. RSA please get your house in order.
Why when we as SA making our laws excluding foreigners Zimbabweans are always the ones come out fighting our government for that
Funny not fighting their own goverment … they came to destroy our country that’s all… you’re a visitor shut up & learn
South Africa can't discuss they problem with out inviting foreigner😂
Exactly and I
Wonder why
Appalling 😢
Blame the news channels because the government never does so
Madiba magic
Only in SA
Sibanda is used to lecture South Africans he claims to know what we should do very tired of him.
Why is he not lecturing the west on sanctions… and his fellow Zimbabweans on voting
Why is he not lecturing the west on sanctions… and his fellow Zimbabweans on voting
Not him alone, Simber and Rutendo as well. Yirrrrr😢
We can not be told by ama foreigners what to do
Why there where even included?
After this we want the department of health to do the same… let foreigners take health insurance wether they use private or public we cant we just cant take care of the entire continent
This is what happens when you are too kind to everyone so now they behave like we owe them...
True
And they themselves have done the same in their own country… eg. Zimbabweans killing Ndebeles & chasing away Mozambiqians…
They are using our own courts to fight our laws…
what do foreigners know about RAF, free health care, free education etc and when did they started thinking that they deserves all those social services? So why should we even discuss this issues with such poor hungry desperate failed nations??
Ziyaphapha lezinunu
This people are so entitled yerr
Black South Africans are also poor, hungry and desperate just like those Foreigners you guys love to hate
this bill is long overdue
Long overdue
Banks are also responsible for the destruction of South Africa
100!
Blame every and any one but yourself
Might be challenged? how do you challenge foreign laws while failing to address and challenge laws at home? 😂 These are the so-called most educated Zimbabweans? a joke 🤣🤣🤣
The entitlement from Zimbabweans is sickening... may this bill go through court and pass
I couldn't agree more.
The magistrate who was presiding over the case in Limpopo… the citizenship case must preside over this one please
Foreigners will run us dry.
Helen Suzman foundation please for once leave black government alone. Your eyes must focus on Palestine and Israel.
This has nothing to do with cheap labour so they will be quiet.
Helen Suzman is a Jewish foundation and therefore they will push any agenda that makes what they do in Palestine seem legal and moral. Jews were refugees in Palestine and later took the land bit by bit. HSF know Zimbabweans will eventually do the same in SA in 50yrs hence they support them.
Dr Sibanda, which country you from and does your country have Road Accident? If they do, please let us know if they cover foreign Nationals, Basically I know that is not the fact in your country and go a d start to fight there. Once you win in your own country may be we can listen.
We've also lived in other country, but we as SAns we don't dictate to other countries, we live, we work or study and be jolly. That how we do things, give SA some respect please.
He’s from Zimbabwe
Zimbabweans are so entitled...
Amen to that. He think he knows to much about SA. He won't even tell Mnangagwa what to do.
@@pakisoramatlo5556very true… that’s what I don’t understand about Zimbabweans they like to sound brilliant … and sadly they can’t help themselves… many Zimbabweans says the ones like this Dr Sibanda are Shonas… know it all’s
South Africa has been compromised😂😂😂
Too much
By the one who married outside the country…
Do they have RAF in Zimbabwe
I don't think so.
Nope… S Zimbabwean women said she’s cursed to have been born in Zim … she said it’s bad she doesn’t like it… I felt sorry for her sham… but the ones like sibanda are going to make South Africans very angry with their wide opened big mouths
Aaaah this man ❤❤❤is putting this annoying Sibanda in his place 😂😂😂❣️❣️❣️❣️
Beautiful 💗
Mmmmm we have a hero here 🙌🏻
I hope and pray this means Petrol prices will be decreased extensively for us South African motorists
Yes...I think it must....coz the huge amount was going to idiots foreigners....so once that is stopped then the advantage must be felt by the south Africans....
This zimbo guys is really sure that he knows everything about our laws inside out😂😂😂
But really South Africa is dump serious we citizens are on the receiving end of the stick we pay tax every month...how has this been happening??the foreign nationals have been receiving RAF while most of them have been not paying tax....they receive Sasa grant aswell 😢they should be a insurance that covers for people using the roads like its happening in other countries....
You can say that again.
Is it sass’s or asylum… and asylum is way more than sass’s grant… that’s why they won’t leave ever… they are in paradise… I think they eish to swap places … because one said to me one day why don’t you South Africans go to zim and take out mnsngwagwa… I said we have our own
Thank you mr pHolela
❤❤❤❤
SABC is a foreign object
Sibanda must request that from Munangagwa
He wouldn’t dare
Bamsabisa okwenyoka
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
They must have travel insurance just like other countries.
Remember they came in disguise asking the permits for a year … after year it was another year … now they are in courts even won the case… fortunately with what they won … they won’t ever get citizenship…
Thank you Mr Pholela. This fool Sibanda must go ask for Raf from Mnangagwa.
RAF lost the case with cost
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
Sbanda must tell mnangagwa what 2 do not us
True
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
They have been stealing that money in the name of foreigners😂
Agree... how do you pay someone without a bank account. Doesn't make sense at all.
I know some Zimbabwean guy who wouldn’t stop saying he’s waiting for his payout and he had fraudulent papers so they do open bank accounts
@@Bahrain-kv7ukI knew they scamming… yooh! How will we progress…
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
Tsek to the Dr.
Sibanda s argument is empty and STUPID. He is talking about fuel levy ? So he is ONLY considering those who are driving. What about PEDESTRIANS????. Is time for sibanda to GO. WE ARE DONE WITH FOREIGHNERS. VERY EXCELLENT ANSWER USING WORDS LIKE CAN'T.
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
Thanks spoke person we will have our money without delay
The Minister of Entitlement has spoken folks.he knows South Africa better than South Africans.Hail the brilliant Mr.Sibanda.
If you can ask him about Zimbabwe, I am pretty sure there is less that he can say about it, but no, when it is South Africa, he has a lot to tell. Shame on him.
Why can’t he start the same in his country … to compensate them if they get involved in accidents in SA… since he knows it all
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
If they pay only to foreign nations with bank it means they are pay foreign nationals are legal. To obtain bank account you must have valid permit to work and study. All Raf needs to request Home Affairs ability to verify.
You pay your insurance in Canada, Europe and USA so this got nothing do with legal or illegal, same way you are working illegal in SA and manage to win cases in CCMA it's same way you have been claiming
Nope we know a lot of your country people…they are able to get fraudulent papers easily and are able to gain and suck the country try very easily
*dry
Stop interviewing foreigners about the affairs of our country
Kick them out the bill... its absurd that they've been getting many billions already!
Dr Sibanda much appreciated....I'm pride of you as African and more intelligent than RAF Official infact he saying you want lecture them lol while u giving him a clear picture....thanks again Dr Sibanda u are far from them....
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
CAN I PLS GET THE NO FOR THE CEO OF RAF
Can we claim in Zimbabwe? You are so entitled.
You can’t even overstay
What's happening when SAns are going to other countries?
Travel Insurance is a must have.
They fend for themselves or their families bring them home
We buy private insurances
@Bbb-ml4gb Therefore the same thing must prevail in this country. We aren't going to be a nanny state of the world.
They pay insurance….meaning you should do the same.
We need this kind of leadership, in this hijacked country,. I salute you you sir
How long to take someone to get paid because my brother's son he was involved in the road ecident 2016 till today he doesn't head from the lawyers nothing
As an undocumented foreigner, how do you even grt paid yhst money. How do they receive the funds because I assume they do not have a bank account? 😢 He is basically agreeing that they have been LAZY do the minimum due diligence. Ridiculous😢
Do we comment on your country of origin???,do we feel untitled to your countries interests and policies??do we comment on governmental changes and legal amendments????
Can the Sibanda guy be declared undesirable immigrant according to immigration act and be deported
Agreed.
😂😂😂… sham Dr Aaron is tired
Our government play big in these countries they should pay until they close down.
Yes this is not bad at all
Polela doesn't make sense, how do you pay someone before verifying the documents?
They have bank accounts so the bank is at fault of the docs are fraudulent
Fake documents are working in South Africa. They have r d p houses. Fake degrees are working in South Africa. Bogus doctors are working in South Africa. R A F is working for them. Most Spaza shops owners are driving cars on the road ask yourself.
You are CORRECT MR SISBANDA
one thing i support bout this bill
Be careful, that’s not the only thing the bill say. It also says that if Sibusiso gets involved in an accident and have his leg amputated, he cannot be paid for those injuries anymore.
The foreigners rule Sou Africa a lot no road eccident Fund claim for foreigners like other Countries do so.
This is unbelievable.
Undocumented ? 2:20
I agree with Dr. Sibanda. I agree with RAF too., but will poor foreigners afford insurance
It gets paid into the lawyers, account?
Yes
Road African accident Fund 😢
Imagine
Polela is at RAF. Hebana
Yep .. .. We truly an Oprah state.. ..
I love his accent
The authorities has made a joke of our people and our country. This has to be changed, with vigour without mercy.
South African Govt is really reactive, leaders are old and don't have an idea how to govern. Imagine billions
Don’t just pay… nothing will happen … it will take years like senso meyiwas case
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
This bill will probably not pass because of the legality of it , if you contribute towards something and there's payment or coverage that is meant for you incase of an accident I think fair play should come in this context and the person or whatever the system is supposed to cover must come in play , yes South Africans feel like they are carrying the entire continent but in this instance the individual actually contributes towards the cause thus deserves his fair share of the pie , I didn't know that you could claim outside of your insurance provider but in this case the state is actually at fault why is a public institution dealing with issues concerning insurance , first how do you know how much an individual has contributed regardless of their status in the country insurance should be left to private entities and fuel levies should be used to maintain roads not be kept in fund to pay people South Africans or foreigners , now we have an issue that just stares up hate while it a faulty system .
Correct & very excellent, l give you a big up, Minister is using force and discrimination 😢😢😢
I go to England 🇬🇧 I buy food, petrol ⛽️, pay rent etc does that mean I qualify for their road accident insurance policy 😅 😳 😐 😬 🤔, it's like you doing RSA a favor by coming then you'll tell them how they should do things and cover you by force. It's unfair and a wrong mentality 😢
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
@@bhekimathabela6300 Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
A N C and E F F will rule come 2024
Black South Africa will regret this immensely... If you not prepared to back the IFP or VF this election you going to find that whites will no longer comply. You never won any war, arms we downed and Julius Malemas threats and arrogance doesn't scare whites on the contrary if forces whites to act! Someone better stop lying to black youth and explain to them what will happen. Not one minority will accept this, this election will not be overlooked many are ready and ethno states is the only way forward now
@amandamalunga716 Who's gonna stop them?
No action just big mouth
Sibanda go make those demands in Zimbabwe mahn 🚮
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
Spokesperson is misleading himself by saying they don't cover the driver.
Whatever you must go and fight in your country.
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲
Haai haaai haaai
SA e tlwaetswe sleg.
So we’re paying high levies for people SA doesn’t even know they’re here?🥲
Mr Pholela & RAF lost the case with cost at HIGH COURT , CONSTITUTION 🥲