Failure at the Fence (full documentary) | FRONTLINE +
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2023
- A visual investigation in collaboration with @WashingtonPost provides a detailed examination of how Hamas was able to breach Israel’s vaunted security barrier on Oct. 7, 2023, and carry out its attack.
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This special collaboration stems from a reconstruction by The Post, with additional on-the-ground reporting and riveting interviews that present a remarkable picture of how, as The Post reporters show, Hamas was planning the attack in plain sight, and Israel was blind to its own vulnerabilities.
“Failure at the Fence” is a FRONTLINE Production with Schonder Productions in association with The Washington Post. Written, produced and directed by Gabrielle Schonder. The correspondent is Jon Swaine. Reported by Jon Swaine and Joyce Sohyun Lee. The senior producer is Frank Koughan. The executive editor of The Washington Post is Sally Buzbee. The editor-in-chief and executive producer of FRONTLINE is Raney Aronson-Rath.
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Oct. 7 proved that technology for guarding borders can never be a replacement for personnel on the ground.
No, it didn't. What it proved is that technology has to be backed up by robust rules of engagement. Saying your helicopters can't fire at armed men coming through the holes they've blasted in a fence unless you have confirming ground observers to sign off on a kinetic response is not that.
To me the 7th of October mainly seems to prove that the world left Gaza to fend for itself by forsaking them for over 70 years.
According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, aid to Palestinians totaled over $40 billion between 1994 and 2020. No other country has anything like the UNRWA, which has enabled the ridiculous concept of passing down refugee status across generations to settled Palestinians and calling entire 50 year old neighbourhoods refugee camps. Hamas leaders are billionaires and have zero regard for Gazan lives.@@SungazerDNB
@MsBhappy you could give a billion dollars to inmates in a prison, nothing they could buy will change that they are fundamentally trapped and oppressed. Hamas and their acts are unforgivable, but it is not hard to see why it happened and how they were able to recruit so many Palestinians to their cause
@@maxanderson8872 The claim MsBhappy refuted was that the Gazans were "forsaken", not that Arab desire to kill Jews are incomprehensible. Nor is a Jewish impulse to exterminate Gaza incomprehensible. What's your point?
Frontline is no joke!! They'll report on stories that ABC, CNN, FOX, NBC or CBS won't report on. This is what I call fair and balanced reporting. Keep up the good work!
Frontline is totally biased
Yes mostly..until they succumb to pressure and start censoring their producers/ directors as they did with their documentary called Netanyahu, America & the War in Gaza -- a few days after release, it got pulled. Unfortunate shameful act by PBS management
lol Balanced my ass.. they reporting only the Israeli side of things.
@@alichahin well look at the last names of the donor Foundations and their frontline producers. Its commonplace in our media, politics and donor class
@@alichahin yup! But this episode is also telling you that Israel f-up and why. So stop thinking one sided and open your minds
Frontline dous amazing work, i listened to them since childhood
They are biased disinformation
They also make propaganda
I know that MANY Canadians ARE BLOCKED from seeing truth#!
Explain
Try using a VPN?
@@alexcarter8807 But they shouldn't need to
News outlets don't just tell the story like they should.. They push their views. Thanks for just telling it how it is and letting people make an educated opinion.
@@mentesinquietas9712 LOL you're not wrong, but that wasn't the point of the comment.
I agree. Most of them would have been focusing on whats happened in gaza. Sorry but if you don't want to get annihilated , don't break into people's communities and slaughter innocent people !!!!!
@@Johnny-pj5cnIsrael and it's diaspora advocated so strongly for homogeneity, walls and strong borders for israel. That's why I find it especially ironic that those who advocated so strongly for open borders, multiculturalism, & diversity for Western Nations are now not only being attacked in israel but are also being so fervently protested against by the middle easterners and others who they actively invited into Western nations.
@@TheOpenSociety777I would be willing to bet everything I have that if the Palestinians would not have people who openly say Israel should be destroyed and stopped attacking Israelis, it would be quite more peaceful there. But people will not be honest just like it is here in America. There is the same people here commiting most of the crime and certainly most of the murders and everyone knows it, but no one will be honest about this.
@@TheOpenSociety777😂 Gun control is even worse. Listening to them try to act like taking guns away in back woods Idaho will somehow protect school kids nationwide is laughable. Yet they refuse to have an armed guard at school. All the while realizing drugs have been illegal forever yet there are more drugs on the street now, with more drug related deaths at this time, more so than any other time in history.
Its completely backwards and crazy to me.
I see, obviously, the government wants to be able to kill us more efficiently. Thats the only way it makes sense.
OR, its all BS and the gun lobby is paying politicians to talk about gun control so they can sell more guns. Like reverse psychology.
Its definitely 1 or the other. Nobody is that stupid.
I lived in Nachal Oz for 4 years. It was obvious to me the fence was more theater than an effective barrier. A single regiment of good infantry at 4 or 5 bases on the border would have stopped the attack in one hour. The IDF has some of the best infantry in the world. None of the front line bases were ever properly maned, built for defense or guarded. One has to go all the way back to the French army of 1940 to equal the incompetence shown by the IDF on October 7th. No effective forces at the border and a 18 hour response time in a tiny country means lack of intellect and realistic planning at the top. The IDF should be able to put an armored division anywhere in the country in an hour an a half. You only need two divisions on alert to do that. That seem like a minimum when you have hostile armies on 3 borders.
Israeli infantry is actually very weak, as has been observed. Their tech is strong but the people are very weak.
@@oshak96Their military accomplishments, including individual acts of extreme bravery, prove you wrong.
It’s almost like they let it happen …
They wanted carte blanche to wipe Gaza off the map. They've openly stated that Hamas is an asset to the Israeli occupation plan.
@@oshak96 especially weak considering the amount of female troops
Well done on the reporting
Thank you for the video
Nice to see PBS posting stories as they happen again
This ain't your mom's PBS
@@benjaminringrose536if it’s not her PBS, then whose PBS is it?
Pbs took vice spot 😭😭
FRONTLINE + @WashingtonPost...Huh???
I never in a million minute would have thought that the most trusted news source (Frontline) would be doing a 'Documentary' in collaboration with the jewish owned (Jeff Bezos) news rag!
Nothing is sacred any more; is it?!
@jamesm3471 meaning that it's not just Frugal Gourmet and Woodwright Shop anymore.
You should also show what is going on on the other site of the fence
I don't think any MSM is allowed to go there by themselfs, my country Denmark aren't allowed to send journalist's in by the IDF.
@@AahFukItthey can try through Egypt but they are not going to let them.
CNN have been there last week
@@eden5260 everything have go be checked by the Israeli goverment. They don't wan't news getting out from inside Gaza.40 weeks of daily demonstrations against Netanyahu's goverment ended with Oct 7th! There is no long term plan after this is over, Israel currently have the most " far right goverment ever. After this there will be elections and " bibi" needs to go and probably face charges he has been able to " dodge" in parlament. I need more coverage on how settler's are working in Gaza and the moment and the current action in the west bank. People are being killed there also. I checked the channel btselem ( israeli channel)
Nobody cares.
Irrelevant
I appreciate this documentary very much. Great work!
This will never happen in Israel again!Just makes them stronger!
"A line is only as strong as it's weakest link." An old military statement.
Anything can be overtaken or torn down or gotten through. It's easier to destroy than build.
Especially when people feel like they have nothing to lose.
Well, look at Gaza. It was a beautiful area, on the beach, perfect for growing crops, fishing, etc., it could be a beautiful place - except it was filled with the equivalent of crackheads. Hence, it looks like the love child of a dump and a toxic waste site.
Free Palestine!!!
@@MrGMansour1Facts 💯💯💯
In science it's called entropy...law of chaos
That's why no one can made a realistic and unfiltered detailed documentary like Frontline. World class.
As always
Even when they are on the ground, the people still think it is propaganda...
Probably because it's not government funded.
Bullshit. Total biased reporting. Whenever any outlet says "Hamas fighters" instead of terrorists you know they are anti Israel. There was NOT A SINGLE mention of the appalling atrocities committed by Hamas.. it was watered down to "killed" and "kidnapped". No mention of rapes, buthering children, burning people alive. Then they have the audacity to put most of the blame on the IDF for not having a good enough fence defence.
On the contrary, FRONTLINE'S bit on the Persian Gulf War is loaded with distortions, not the least of which is their conclusion that the US won the conflict. We lost badly, thus necessitating the need for another war on Iraq.
Thank you.
The technology of the fence was good, but no effort was made to protect against a major multi facetted attack on it.
The fence was useless, adding the fact that, unfortunately, there was not enough (so little) man power in the most dangerous border in the world, is even more mind blowing. 💔
It was a luxury of modern times that you could expect raiders on villages and cities to not come after a settlement with no wall. The national wall matters, but every settlement in the world now needs at least a palisade if not a construction in concentric walls like a medieval castle. It was not an accident that the building of castles was necessary, the only thing that offered protection against viking raids was a stone wall.
They have an older documentary called Netanyahu's War. It gives a lot of insight into what's going on today.
Thanks
Are these people that dumb to believe their government will put 2 million people in a concentration camp and they won’t ever try to break free?
@jaymesnin when itzhak rabin was killed by an extremist close to Netanyahu Israelis were chanting bibi is a murderer.They must make a documentary how com Bibi Netanyahu was in the highest power positions for decades in Israel?
@@sokolallaraj4646 it's in one of the most recent episodes of Frontline too.
Does it mention how Israel has never accepted a 2 state settlement based on international law?
So chilling and tragic 😔😔😔😢
Excellent work thanks
It would be good to know whether Frontline pixelated the images of the fighters crossing the border and if so, why?
Its been awhile since the last frontline doc. Happy to see a new one appear. One of my favourite series'
FRONTLINE creates such important and timely documentaries. Thank you.
Can you imagine how many more thousands of israelis would have died if there wasn't that wall there to lessen the amount of terrorists and slow hamas' advance? This documentary seems like anti border wall propaganda , but it's actually self evident why we need to FINISH our Southern border wall 🧱🧱🧱
It’s more like bad timely bullshit 🤣🤣
@@osamafly yet, here you are.
Yeah to read between the lines @@MarcSherwood
truth is on October 7th Benjamin Netanyahu recalled the army for the preparations of demolishing masjid al aqsa mosque to welcome the antichrist but failed ..
Frontline is always on point. I can only say....all Israeli citizens should be ready to fight at any time......young, old, men and women. This will be your best means of defense.
Another excellent production by front line. Thank you for showing us your view of this tragic situation.
My heart goes out to all the victims and their families😢 who suffered on the 7th . My heart also goes out to all the innocent families in GAZA as well..
I don’t feel sorry for racist occupying colonizing ethno supremacists.
No you don't nobody buys your fake sympathy
@@ahrlj24I feel sorry for how ignorant you are and how you choose to spread hate in a world that needs empathy and love for ALL people
@mentesinquietas9712 He's an evil man!
@mentesinquietas9712Can you imagine how many more thousands of israelis would have died if there wasn't that wall there to lessen the amount of terrorists and slow hamas' advance? This documentary seems like anti border wall propaganda , but it's actually self evident why we need to FINISH our Southern border wall 🧱🧱🧱
This is some of the most well documented and established news agency showing the reality of this war.
Yet they did not mention the "Mass Hannibal" order of the Hannibal doctrine, the fact that so many of their people were killed by their own helicopters and tanks PER ORDERS.
@@BeKindToBirdsthey opening shots are clearly buildings destroyed by tanks and helicopters.
What provokes these ungodly attacks? Maybe the oppression of humans for decades, walling people in, depriving them of basic human rights and necessities, of dignity, of clean and ample water, of voting rights, of freedom, of prosperity, of hope , and mainly depriving them of possibility brings this on. Who else on earth needs this kind of "protection" from their neighbors and why? Israel provokes these attacks every day of the Gazan's lives. What goes around comes around. This will NEVER END until Gazans are granted equal and human rights. And this is not a "war". This is a slaughter of civilians, 70% of whom are women and children , using unguided bombs and eventual starvation and infectious diseases - all violations of the Geneva convention.
They showed the Israeli justification for this "war" and barely glanced at the reality of what's going on in Gaza. If you're upset by the killing and tragedy presented in this video, how do you react to it's magnification by many thousands?
The heartless slaughter in Gaza is genocide, carried out with unimaginable ferocity and cruelty. Denying food and water to two million people is, all by itself, a war crime, a deliberate attempt at mass murder calling for immediate rescue and the arrest of those responsible. But Israel is doing far more, far worse and, yet, The United States is shielding Israel from the consequences it has earned. Instead, it helps Israel paint itself as the victim. That is the reality.
I never knew any of this. I knew about the wall but never knew they have to go to this of a sophisticated extent to keep these people back. An yet, yet it still failed. Unbelievable. An they will either try or do it again. I seen the tunnel video. The engineer involved. They were all in on it.
The Israelis will never forgive them for this.
Muslims will never forgive israelis for their atrocities committed during 75 years of occupation
Very informative.
Extraordinary reporting - bravo to all concerned! I truly hope that Frontline can continue this precious work on both sides, without bias, because we need the facts and these reactions to facts - not of talking heads and politicians and all those with points to score but of all those involved and reacting with truth to their own experiences.
Plus the technical explanations, which were terrific. As an American, I wonder if we too don't rely on faulty expectations, over-reliance on technology, faith in human expertise and infallibility. I wonder if our own military won't be showing this Frontline to all their forces as a lesson in never assuming you're safe.
25:05 , omg, she says that as if Palestinians don't have homes demolished or families killed by air strikes or buried memories of children and women.
Their galant said it , Israelis actually don't see Palestinians as humans, they dehumanized them and now ethically cleansing a whole race in Gaza
Yes mostly..until PBS management succumb to pressure and start censoring their own producers/ directors as they did with their documentary called Netanyahu, America & the War in Gaza -- a few days after release, it got pulled. Unfortunate shameful act by PBS management
Tantura documentary proves what Israel is..
Get the fuck out already..
You give your enemy years to map out your defensives and underestimate their willingness to kill you and die in the attack. You will fail 100% of the time.
When the world forces you into that situation… yes that is what happens
I totally agree. Putting 2 million people in a prison and throwing away the key.. What did Israel expect?
@jakobaa9031 do you think hamas's rhetoric and goals were different when gaza was given to them? They wanted to do this massacre before israel even started blockading and closing gaza off.
@@milckshakebeans8356 No I dont. Do you remember when Israel called Hamas an 'asset'? Or remember that Israel has allowed suitcases filled with cash to be delivered to Hamas for YEARS?
@@jakobaa9031 First this has nothing to do with your previous point so I guess you conceded that one.
Do you think that if Israel invaded Gaza then it would've been better for the palestinians? I think that looking back Israel shouldn't have underestimated hamas's willingness for murder. But I bet that if Israel had done anything to prevent this from happening the entire world including you would condemn them.
Israel had done everything it could to make peace with the palestinians in gaza and that was to a fault unfortunately.
Really informative. Appreciate the on the ground effort.
I know a handful of jews here in America and I was always under the impression that everyone inside Israel was packing heat but I guess I was wrong.
Evil is tough to stop. It’s like a cancer. It’s spreading. I have no words on how a human can do this. 😢
Kibbutz are illegal settlements. How should Hamas react to the oppression of the Palestinian people and the stealing of their lands by settlers do you think?
@@charlotteschneider6080what concentration camps? Jails?
Who are you referring to?? The European caucasian IDF and their other Israeli supporters or Hamas and their other Palestinian Semite supporters??
@@charlotteschneider6080
If Gaza is an open air concentration camp, why don't the Gazans leave through the rear door to Egypt? Why won't any of the 55 Muslim countries let them in? Why have numerous countries - Jordan, Lebanon, and Kuwait come to mind instantly - thrown them out? Why did Israel not erect a fence until Gazans begam sending suicide bombers to blow up passenger buses?
☪️ancer upon the 🌎
Another great documentary
This breaks my heart and wish so badly they would have picked my small town here in Texas. Enough said. God bless yall 🙏
Frontline, can you make a documentary about the southern US border fence?
Seems too political with an election coming up
If they did they could mention Steve Banon and his scamming old people out of thier money to build the wall. The cult leaders are all scam artists.
At 24:04 you could hear his heart pounding as he embraced his neighbor (due to the fact he was wearing a microphone on his chest )AMAZING!
Colonialist are afraid 😅
@@hadihasan1903so afraid that Gaza is now a pile of rocks. And you’re happy?
Acting up for the cameras
@MrTripcore that's some pretty good acting if he can regulate his heartbeat for the cameras. Just saying.
And your r@pist friends are now dead, Hasan.
This is so well done. Thank you for showing those of us who are not there.
Es ist immer wichtig, die Ursachen zu benennen. Danke für die neutrale Sicht.
Neutral? 😂
One has to ask the the old question "cui bono?", "who profits?" and the answer is: Netanyahu profits. For months there were protests about his judicial reform. Since October 7th , there is no protests in the streets. Since October 7th, Netanyahu is creating facts. How could Netanyahu and his junta not know about the attacks? They turned a blind eye.
The general of the IDF and other intelligence heads were warned about activities on the boarder. They were informed in the evening and replied that they will look into it in the morning. Well morning came and this happened. It was not an intelligence failure. It was human recklessness.
It was much more complicated than what you explained. The head of Shin Bet was all night awake because there was a warning from Gaza. There wasn't enough warning
@@leon19736 I understand that it was also a holiday but they should have deployed troops. Anyway I know that most of the terrorists were already inside Israel. They attacked the kibbutzim in the morning but the army bases were fighting them all night long.
They didn’t do anything because…THEY WERE A PART OF THE ATTACK!!
Thank you for making this, it's really important to know what happened that day for many reasons. This is real journalism.
Hannibal directive proves that Israel is lying.
Tantura documentary what?
The truth!! Thank you.
if people can not live together in peace, they are not worth of your thought and care.
This is maybe the best thing I've ever seen Frontline do. It showed the security failures in a really detailed way, and then it really brought home the human cost at the end. Seeing those destroyed kibbutzim and the people talking about who specifically was killed and who was kidnapped really showed the horrors so vividly.
That happened in the Westbank for decades and you did not care lmao
@@sA-ny2jl: And Netanyahu has admitted to funding Hamas for the specific intent of diminishing the PLO, suppressing the Palestinian people and denying Palestinian statehood. As Netanyahu told the Knesset, "funding Hamas is good for Israel".
How is the most heavily surveilled, heavily armed and heavily manned border in the world, left virtually unattended on the very day that Hamas attacked. And now the evidence is leaking out that Israel was warned that this attack was imminent, but that wasn't enough for Israel to beef up its border security. Instead, there was a skeleton crew in place.
It's too bad that Frontline won't do a report on how much damage, carnage and killing the IDF did to its own citizens with their response. But that to will be exposed over time.
And understand, that every second of this footage was reviewed by the Israeli military. Nothing main stream gets out that they don't want the world to see.
Lefty Israel establishment responsible for horrifically failed
@@sA-ny2jl All the land belongs to Palestinians.
@@sA-ny2jlYes well said I agree
One thing that seems really weak about all these remote controlled guns is how much of an obvious target they are. They're static, their position is easy to see and target from anywhere, and the enemy knows exactly where these all these guns are months in advance. Seems pretty naive to expect they wouldn't be taken out early in a fight.
The problem was, they never thought that they would get attacked like that.
Even the guy from the fence authority was saying it wasn’t built to withheld an army.
They worked well until they didn't.
Sometimes you need a mistake to find the weakspot and solve it.
Unfortunately it came at a great cost.
Are these people that dumb to believe their government will put 2 million people in a concentration camp and they won’t ever try to break free?
@@jahidulmawla677But the IDF knew about the plan for Oct 7th months in advance.
@@Tazdeviloo7
They thought it was beyond Hamas's capabilities. Terrible miscalculation.
Ive always said frontline should been shown in our school a unbiased look at history being made in real time
UNBIASED.
HAHAHAHAHA
Hannibal directive proves that Israel is lying.
Tantura documentary what?
This documentary is extremely biased. Not for educational use.
have a heart and just pray for the kids💔😭
Thoughts and prayers lmao
it wasnt a “failure”. a three layer fence and wall system, embedded throughout with sensors, cameras, automatic machine guns, guard towers, surveilled by air, land and satellite. even a rabbit that gets close gets shot. they knew this was planned a year before as per the ny times article, and egypt warned them shortly before. you cant tell me it was a “failure”. it was allowed to happen so netanyahu could avoid jail and then level gaza
I along with alot of people I know agree with this 1000%.No other reason fits like this.
Exactly my thoughts after the attack.
I’m so sorry for the way life has treated your people over the last few months.
I hope for peace for you and yours.
"Our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinian people." - Nelson Mandela
@@slipcosp WTF?
@@thomasdeanda2360Palestine will be free
This is great reporting.
The guy at 17:20 is telling the truth, the fence wasn't meant to stop an organized assault, it was for deterring small raids. The Great Wall of China and Hadrian's Wall had the same limitations.
thank you Frontline for amazing work and information n journalism and always getting the truth out there
Thank you to all the Frontline staff for always propducing great documentaries
Tantura documentary
It proves what Israel is..
God words is clear enough that a severly undeveloped brain of a child can understand . The keeper of the gate does not do his job in vain
@@72marshflower15 Just proves that both sides are capable of & have committed horrific atrocities. Neither side is a 'good guy'
I'm looking for a similar Frontline documentary on the detestation in Gaza. Have you done one? If not, do you intend to?
Keep up the good work 👏
Well that's one side of the story....there is another side.....wonder if it will get the same attention 🤔
yeah and there is also another side to the story that the earth is a sphere. Hopefully they will give that some attention too!
@@jakobg8213 ?
It’s a good thing those IDF Apache helicopter pilot interviews were published.
This was sobering to watch. Israel certainly underestimated Hamas' resourcefulness and placed too much hope on military superiority and technology. Was good to hear from the Israeli residents of affected communities.
The fence has the same limitations of any fixed position or wall. Through out the world wars and other conflicts it has been proven time and again that these can not stop a motivated and well armed force. This is why mobile armor or overwhelming infantry and artillery are the only real solutions to stopping an advance. If the enemy breaches one tiny spot they flow through that spot and in moments the wall becomes the property of the enemy. If you have mobility your force can quickly converge on any attack point or if necessary absorb the attack and give some ground while still maintaining the barrier.
Major strategic mistake to think that an unmanned wall can stop a fighting force. It never has and it never will.
It was meant to be a prison wall. It's not a defensive wall.
@@gatolibero8329 Unguarded prison, which is the same thing if you think about it.
It wasn't meant to keep out a whole army. It was meant to stop a few terrorists from trying to breach and harm the kibbutzim on the border. Until then, the status quo in Israel was nearly 20 years of trying to intercept thousands of Hamas rockets being fired into Israel on a daily basis. That was their main tactic.
@@gatolibero8329exactly
Manned or unmanned, believe me as long as there is injustice, as long as the Palestinians are evicted from their home by the settlers with the support of the Israeli police and army, as long as the Palestinians are deprived of their rights as human beings, as long as children see their fathers killed, as long as mothers see their children killed, there will be a reaction. It is normal, it is human. If you are an American Jew, you can be a prefect Jew without having to go to Palestine and take someone else’s home or kill a Palestinians as if there were cheap.
These poor people. OMG,
Here for the comments. Please let people speak their minds whether for or against 🙏
I guess but 90% of the people here are either slow or a bot--->- liar liar liar, it's jew progranda....etc etc etc
Good report!
Neither can i imagine someone kicking me out of my own home. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Jews have been kicked out of their homes in many countries including Muslim countries but they don't go around with hatred in their hearts. They just move forward and try to build and raise their families
Don't be coy or obscure. Who is it that you imagine that this happened to?
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is not there.
The term "Palestinian" is false, recently made up for political purposes.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hindreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
I hope you find this useful.
@gandydancer9710 I have this nightmare sometimes. 7 billion people are suddenly turning up in Africa, the motherland. But then ouf!!!
@@kama4581 No, the population explosion in Africa is not a case of people "suddenly turning up" anywhere.
Also, Europe letting them in is a self-inflicted wound.
Anyway, I see you've chosen to ignore my request that you clarify your unfocussed claim. So you still need to do that. Or be derided.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t a kibbutz another term for settlement?
This is good journalism
They barely scratched the surface of complexity, and horror.
Most Israelis killed were soldiers.
The rest killed by IDF.
No I think this covers it.
No rape etc occurred
@@patrickmcnamara2755 you are wrong
@zionist424 if rapes had occurred, as yet, Israel hasn't allowed independent investigators from going to Israel. Because Israel has said it's anti-semitic to even question their verdict.
@@zionist424Israeli journalists reported on TV 2 days ago that alot of the most horrible things about women and kids were a lie
Frontline took a HUGE nosedive at some point in the past ten years. I've recently seen 2 outstanding Frontline DOCS. Please continue this trajectory in the excellence we all come to love and respect from PBS! Our Libraries, PBS, NPR must continue. They are needed. Thank you!
Frontline has always been great. have you seen them?
@@Khuros Frontline, PBS and NPR have all suffered from ideological capture by the woke mind-virus. To not see that is to have lost your own objectivity in the pursuit of truth.
Ultra biased but well produced. I can at least stomach them. Except for that Jan 6 episode. It was an over dramatization of an exaggeration, which is nicer than saying "straight up lying" 😂
They are not ultra biased haha. Have you seen their Afghanistan stuff? They are brutal to Obama and the rest. Jan 6th was fully recorded. It's not up for debate. It was clearly an insurrection attempt. They wanted to hang the vice president... Screaming "wheres nancy" while having zipcuffs. Again, they recorded it themselves.@@zexnynex777
@@zexnynex777 You're right, nothing happened at all. Just some tourists, nothing more.
Suppose the side other than your own had done it, would you have the same charged reaction? Something to think about, especially when you accuse PBS of "ultra biased" and ""straight up lying""
Factual journalism.
"We didn't think..." "We were not prepared for it". This is the insanity...
Unfortunately, the wall was a latter day Bar Lev line , both failed the unforeseen test . A false sense of security can be more dangerous than none
My understanding of the Bar Lev line is that it was a military installation. The wall was also staffed by members of the IDF. At 16:51 Dr. Dany Tirza stated that the wall was not meant to sustain a military attack. Therefore, the wall's purpose was to detain a stateless population indefinitely. Maybe it's time to admit that Zionism is wrong. It's too bad Israel is a failed apartheid state and it's too bad the IDF is committing an ethnic cleansing in 2023.
Are these people that dumb to believe their government will put 2 million people in a concentration camp and they won’t ever try to break free?
they couldn't rely on the wall, they were busy harassing Palestinians at the West Bank while Hamas invaded. there were calls from eyewitnesses near Gaza Strip asking themselves "Where is the army?"
(oh and regarding source, i won't tell shit because they won't care anyway)
This is so tragic. Heartbreaking really.
free Palestine. this is lair
smooth brain alert@@hanfy130
Agreed...this is a tragedy. RIP all the civilians that are no longer with us. God Bless the IDF.
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Legal journals have written as follows:
"Applied to the case of Israel, uti possidetis juris would dictate that Israel inherit the boundaries of the Mandate of Palestine as they existed in May, 1948. The doctrine would thus support Israeli claims to any or all of the currently hotly disputed areas of Jerusalem (including East Jerusalem), the West Bank, and even potentially the Gaza Strip."
The fact is that Jews have lived continuously in Israel for well over 3000 years. The claim that the Jews usurped Arab land is simply without basis. Britain's Balfour Declaration of 1917 recognized that both Jews and Arabs had been living in the area in recent years, which led to several attempts to divvy up the land. Every version was accepted by the Jews, every one rejected by the Arabs. And then the Arab states got together to "push Israel into the sea" as they put it, in 1948 and 1967 and 1973, and failed each time. Then Egypt agreed to a peace treaty with Israel in the late 1970s, a major step forward, and other states eventually followed. Not all, of course - the Muslim Brotherhood (Iran, Hamas, al-Qaeda, ISIS, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, etc.) still swears that their goal - essentially their only goal - is the elimination of Israel, the elimination of all Jews, and eventually taking over the planet for Islam and installing universal Sharia Law.
One of the sources of confusion is the term "Palestinian", and references to "Palestine". What is now called Israel was called Palestine 100 years ago, but it was called Israel thousands of years ago. When the PLO terrorist group wanted to push the false narrative in the 1960s that the Jews had removed the Arabs from their land, they renamed some Lebanese, Syrians, Egyptians, and Jordanians as "Palestinians", as if they had been in "Palestine" before the Jews pushed them out. It was a claim made up out of whole cloth.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
GLORY TO THE RESISTANCE
WOW that’s IDF soldier was extremely thoughtful and foresaw the responsibility they have
Thanks for showing us!
Moral of the story don’t cheat your neighbours and get along with them . Or life will be hell . No matter what
Exactly
if you cage them in they will eventually uncage themselves
What an insane response! The moral of the story is don't imagine you can tolerate terrorists on your borders, especially Islamic terrorists who are supported across the Muslim world.
They're not crying "In the interest of a safe two-state solution" as they rush into "occupied territory - they cry "Allahu Akhbar!" Because this is Islam against the world, as it has been since the 7th century.
"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. The fearful are caught as often as the bold. Faith alone defends." ~ Helen Keller. Having been in the policing and security industry most of my life, this has always been my go-to.
I like it. Thank you.
Yeah don’t use that oven mitt, just grab the pan with faith cause there is no security in nature. Sorry but that quote is a jumbled rambling that isn’t grounded in reality. To take a failure and extend it to the idea that defense doesn’t work begs idiocy.
Compare apples with apples, conflict is not home baking. Safety is purely perception. We can make ourselves feel safe and secure, but are we guaranteed that? No, we can only mitigate.
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I think we all understand that Helen Keller wasn't advocating playing Russian Roulette as a form of relaxation. The quote clearly means that those who never leave the house as a means of avoiding getting run over by a truck are just as likely to have their roof cave in, or die of psychiatric issue overload. Reasonable precautions yes, overcautious no.
@@sharkykzn5846conflict is not home baking. That concept is a little beyond him.
Great info and showed the best way of documenting an event.
Hannibal directive proves that Israel is lying.
Tantura documentary what?
PBS dropping heat today 🎉🎉🎉
You should also show a video of the destruction in gaza. We need both sides of the story
Israel won't permit them.
Hamas controls the media there. Always has.
Yes, the Palestinian perspective was almost entirely lacking in the Frontline report. a typical western media.
Now do one of the nakba
Sure. Arab propaganda blew a battle in which an Israeli paramilitary supposedly killed (at most) 107 Arabs, including combatants, into a massacre of hundereds of civilians where women were raped en-masse and pregnant women had their wombs slit open.
This degenerate attempt at rallying the Arab nations to help caused the Palestinians to run away rather than stay and fight.
I had no idea the Palestinians were so guarded like in a prison with gun turrets targeted on them with balloon cameras and automatic machine gun shooting from the turrets. Outside the wall the Israelis are living in beautiful land with verdant gardens. Look at google earth. What a nightmare/tragedy
the IDF use AI to choose their targets. Once the AI spits out a supposed location, they bomb it. no questions asked.
Also inside Gaza they lived good life. And they can get out to Egypt and Israel through border checkpoints
Frontline your team should make documentary on Nakba so viewers don't have blind spot in this conflict
Nakba is as fake as Palestine.
Nakba in one line . Arabs promising liberation asked villages to evacuate to end up getting smoked. Dumb of you to trust Arabs.
They have one called Netanyahu's War. In hindsight, it explains why he acted like that in the 90's, and it's so he can do what he's doing today. He got the opportunity.
They should make a vid about the ethnic cleansing of 800,000 mirhzi jews from arab vountries
You're right. The woke universities that can't even condemn the genocide of Jews aren't doing a good enough job talking about the nakba. C'mmon.
I think Frontline does current events.
Any plans on doing a similar story on Palestinian families who have also been broken apart due to the war?
Not seeing the parallel. The Israelis weren't "broken apart", they were murdered.
@@gandydancer9710 Are Palestinian citizens not being murdered?
You have (most likely) seen tens of those programs. This program concentrates on the failure to avert the carnage that started all. If the Israeli military could have stopped the Hamas terrorists all the suffering that happened them and is happening since them would have being avoided. BTW, even this program calls Hamas "fighters', a word that is not applicable to people that kidnap, rape and burn civilians, including children.
@@albertowachsman7878October 7th is far from the "carnage that started it all"... Did you watch the video?
@@albertowachsman7878please, what do you call the people that have killed 10,000 Palestinian women and children... angels?
Always a reminder that technology won't always be reliable..
Thank you Frontline for having the courage to pull up and report what's going on. Not sure if your interviews are impartial.
Yes mostly..until PBS management succumb to pressure and start censoring their own producers/ directors as they did with their documentary called Netanyahu, America & the War in Gaza -- a few days after release, it got pulled. Unfortunate shameful act by PBS management
They broke 2 cardinal rules: 1, they got complacent, 2 they underestimated the enemy. Someone asked me which side are you on. They seem kinda disappointed when I said 'peace. I'm on the side of peace'.
Did they underestimate? Do you think they welcomed the attack as an excuse to carpet bomb gaza?
Oh they underestimated alright...Whilst the mighty IDF were either fast asleep in their barracks or on festive holiday leave, a few determined men with construction machines, Toyota pickups & mopeds successfully breached the walls & ran riot...
that's a nice thought. Do you believe in unicorns and rainbows too?
Peace can never be a side, it takes both sides ongoing commitment. Peace can never come with Hamas leading Gaza. It also can not come with Netanyahu in power. Thankfully Israel is a democracy whereas Hamas imprisons peace activists for even talking to Israelis (2020 news).
Spot on
Walls are never meant to stop just like safes are not secure. Its designed to buy time for a response
Both merely to show intent.
Imagine being welcomed to a land then taking it over and setting up a billion dollar wall.
You would have to use your imagination to dream that up because it never happened
Nothing condones the rapes and murders that happened that day
@@inanimatecarbonrod83 is this not the basic foundation of current Israel?
@@samanthamountain9764 No.
@samanthamountain9764 that wall went up because of constant suicide bombings and to prevent weapons smuggling...that wall is several feet deep into the ground
What? All these videos were circulating around and they were still caught off guard? WTH?
Interesting reportage. Make a sequel - how and why the attacked waited several hours for help!
because it served a bigger agenda to do in Gaza what it's doing now;)
Heartbreaking
The exploded bodies of Palestinian kids
Some will say hearthwarming... NO LOVE IN THIS REGION
Those kids are future terrorists. They are brainwashed from birth to hate Israel & non-Muslims.
Do not confuse how they treat their kids with how Western Civilization views children.
It's a sad story of are people that hate their enemies more than they love their children
What fence a lot of it is not up yet, there are gaps
Thank you for this excellent report. It's by far the best thing I've seen on this tragic incident.
it's an "eid" for us
Man this Frontline series is amazing, excellent work along with the other stories you’ve done
Have they shown the apartied? Have they shown what it is to live under occupation? Have they talked about when this war actually started seventy years ago and why? Detailed narrow focus documentary that in effect perpetuates the overall propaganda through ommision of the rest of the facts that are relevant.
You should check out Fear and Loathing in a New Jerusalem. It will help you understand the conflict. Sources say 80 percent of the casualties on that first day were caused by the Israeli response to the attack.
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Enough with your fake. Israel left Gaza in 2006, and issued thousands of work permit to Gazans so they could make good money working in Israel. The jihadi Hamas=Isis terrorists ideology is to destroy Israel at all cost. As long that people like you will support jihadi Hamas=Isis terrorists, there will be no peace.
@@patland1762 There is no apartied, arabs are free to live as they want in israel, palestine is not part of israel so israel shouldn't care for them as for their own citizens
@@MrGakyyou are poorly informed. There is apartied
So sorry
What is the responsibility going to be for this war?
Thanks to the reported for stopping the interview to hug and comfort the obviously hurting and traumatized man near the end. Caring for another human being should always come before getting an uninterrupted shot. Good doc all-around, thanks for sharing freely around the world.
Peace and safety to all in Israel/Palestine/Gaza/West Bank. Violence MUST STOP!
Wishing you all enough in all you need in these awful trying times folks - take care & be well.
Hannibal directive proves that Israel is lying.
Tantura documentary what?
No one i mean abso lute ly NO one comes even close to Frontline PBS Documentary. No O N E. Legitimate professional journalism at its best. The guys are Top Shelf. Risk everything including camera operators to get this footage. Thank you Frontline for your efforts AND Top Shelf journalism ❤
They are spreading neutral propaganda, nothing more.
Israel bulldozes a tent city and the people in it, assassinates doctors and poets with their whole families, kills their own civilians with tanks and helicopters in a "mass Hannibal doctrine" on Oct 7th and you call them the most professionals?
If you aren't a shill or a bot then please open your eyes to what is happening. This is ethnic cleansing and the lies about oct 7th are horrific.
They killed their own people with rockets and tank shells, they shot into houses and count every armed milita member as a "civilian"
The lies about oct 7th are tumbling down day by day and PBS released this?
Frontline only spews forth western propaganda. Otherwise they would not have a platform.
That’s the show oppression will never work for too long