NEVERMORE Believe in Nothing Composer Reaction and Song Analysis
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Nevermore is absolutely incredible, not the song i would have started with though. You need to check out The River Dragon Has Come and This Godless Endeavor for sure.
This Godless Endeavor is a must. Such a perfect song imo.
Very true
Funnily, this is the song my channel (not this one) started off with and then we ended up doing a bunch of other Nevermore stuff and even got into Arch Enemy because Loomis is in there. But it's definitely not like their other songs for sure. It's probably great for people who aren't used to prog metal though.
I really hope Geebz listens to Godless Endeavour, I believe In Nothing really does not showcase how legendary Jeff Loomis is because he can do insane things eith the guitar
Absolutely!!
You really can't go wrong with any Nevermore. But if you want their "magnum opus" it has to be the title track off of their 2005 album, This Godless Endeavor.
This Godless Endeavor was my very first metal album (I bought it blindly at a store, mainly because I loved the cd-cover lol) and it changed my taste in music forever. Absolut masterpiece.
this album is an absolute masterpiece !
This Godless Endeavor yesss
@@self1sch Absolutely the same for me too. I bought the CD at a store called Cheapo that no longer exist. But they let you listen to the album before you bought it which was super cool and an experience you can no longer get.
Sentient 6
Jeff Loomis is and I believe will remain one of the most technically capable guitarists ever in heavy metal.
That entire album is just outstanding. It's the one that got me into Nevermore. Believe in nothing is somewhat of a ballad. Narcosynthesis is a good suggestion for one of their heavier songs.
Holy Balls! Nevermore! Never thought I would see the day. "Believe in Nothing" is a great track, but its also probably their most radio-friendly. If you really want a trip, I would suggest "This Godless Endeavour". Allllright!
This is one of my all time favorites. Warrel Dane was a legend that died too early! 🤘
Jeff loomis the guitar player is an absolute beast and one of my all time faves, the fact that he was totally serving the song here shows just how good he is! For me this is Andy Sneap’s (the producer) masterpiece 🤘
. . . but have you heard Andy Sneap on all 3 "Sabbat" albums. He was an exceptional guitarist in his own right.
But Loomis . . . more folks should know about him, and Nevermore.
You really owe it to yourself to check out This Godless Endeavor (whether for a video or just for yourself). One of the most epic and perfect songs that exists in metal in my opinion.
Love this song. The River Dragon Has Come, Dreaming Neon Black, the cover of the Sound of Silence, This Godless Endeavor, Narcosynthesis; these are my favorite Nevermore songs. Jeff Loomis is a legendary guitarist and Warrell Dane has such an interesting voice.
I second Dreaming in Neon Black! What an incredible composition in that song
@@musicformysanity9050 featuring the late-great guitarist Tim Calvert, formerly of Bay Area Thrashers "Forbidden".
Nevermore is one of my favorite bands of all time. RIP Warrel.
Got to check out " The Heart Collector" by Nevermore, fantastic song. Excellent acoustic parts and solo.
Give 'Born' by Nevermore a rip, also 'The Learning', 'Sentient 6' and 'Dreaming Neon Black' - Also, they broke up because vocalist Warrel Dane passed away. Thanks for the video bro, always like to hear your takes on music that I enjoy - Cheers!
Most underrated metal band of all time IMHO. Dane, Loomis, Sheppard and Williams (criminally underrated drummer) had that “something” special that very few bands have.
So underrated, like they were making classic traditional style metal during the grunge and nu metal, and then metalcore eras, untainted.
That lead line after the first chorus and solo still gives me chills after all these years.
Sentient 6, please! It’s a unique song, and one of their best, vocals, atmosphere and composition like no other.
I actually love Sentient 6 but never see people talk about it
Fuck yes! River Dragon Has Come, Dreaming Neon Black, Poison God Machine, Tianamen Man, their version of Sound of Silence.... so many great songs!
Your part about grunge is really interesting, as they are from Seattle and the core of the band was from a thrash band called Sanctuary (also really good, btw) that broke up just a year or so before. This song is one of many that uses some of those "Seattle sounds" like the layered hooks you mentioned, which is a classic Alice in Chains move.
This whole album is great! Maybe their best.
I absolutely love Nevermore, but this is pretty atypical of a lot of their material. As other people have suggested The River Dragon Has Come and This Godless Endeavor, but I also love their version of The Sound of Silence.
Nevermore is incredible. I highly recommend “This Godless Endeavor” if you want to do another.
Yes! Check out The River Dragon, and Jeff Loomis (guitar player) has some great solo music, he's a beast
I would have suggested a different song, but still very happy that you've given the mighty Nevermore a spin! Please listen to something from The Politics of Ecstasy! Or This Godless Endeavour!
Cool to see this band pop up on your channel!
Dead Heart In A Dead World, the record you picked this song from is incredibly good! Their follow-ups Enemies of Reality and This Godless Endeavor are killers too.
Try to find the fast-paced tracks Geebz, you will be blown away.
It is too bad the band no longer exists.
Rest in peace Warrel Dane (vocalist) who died in 2017.
Thanks again for adding Vexes to the list Geebz!
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Oh god! I never thought you would get around to this band! This makes me so excited! This band was one of the biggest influences on my writing and playing as a guitarist/bassist.
This was my friend's band, but around the time I met him (or rather our Wives became friends) about a year later the band broke up... He has started two new bands since then though "Ghostship Octavius" and "Ashes of Ares" so check those out too!
Van Williams! Ghostship is an amazing band that a few know about. What a shame.
@@Lokrion yep! He’s a really nice guy and sadly lost his wife to cancer a few years back. She was a work friend of my wife’s and through them I met Van, and he generously sent me a bunch of shirts and CDs and stuff back when Obsidian Conspiracy came out, and then it turned out we are both artists too and had that in common etc.
He’s a great drummer and a hell of a guy, a lot of talent there.
Love Van. Such a unique style of playing with cool, intricate cymbal and toms patterns. Sorry to hear about his loss
I F'N love this band...RIP Warrel Dane
I love Nevermore! Would love to see you check out their cover of "The Sound of Silence", "This Godless Endeavor", or "The River Dragon Has Come". Or "We Disintegrate" is an oddball but I love it =)
We disintegrate!! The chorus in that song is incredible
These guys are the real deal too. So sad that I was never able to see them live.
This is the first song I heard from nevermore and I was instantly hooked. Digging deeper into their library is an emotional experience.
Ill never forget the first time i heard them. It was live at the Keyclub in Hollywood, 2001. I went there to see Opeth on their first US tour and they opened up for Nevermore. This was the album that they were touring for and it was such an amazing show. By the end of the show, the entire stage was filled with fans, dancing with Nevermore. I mean the entire stage. Awesome. Been a fan ever since and saw them a few times since then. RIP, Warrel Dane \m/
I was there as well! Went to see BOTH. Was into Nevermore since their debut and *Sanctuary.* Its funny isn't it about Mikael Akerfeldt, now practically a Stand-up comedian on stage, but then for the "Blackwater Park Tour", he was visibly amazed people were applauding and STUNNED that they could pull-off all they did live, and all he would say timidly; "Thank you, thank you very much" :).
The 2nd Lead/Rhythm Guitarist that played with Loomis for Nevermore, was SUPER emotional, made intense faces and was really outstanding. I really dug his intensity, and always wanted to know if he was in another band. I would probably act the same way with that stage-presence if I were a guitarist in a band of that type of aggression and virtuosity.
Wow . . . I remember that when all those people went up on stage! I especially remember a particular young brunette woman that was, well . . . If she was listening and singing along to a Nevermore song, I would have married her! :D She was a hottie! I think the track they sang was "The Heart Collector" if I'm not mistaken?
I saw these guys open for Opeth in 2003 and was duly impressed.
This is their poppiest of their songs.
One of my favourite bands, so many bangers. Was jamming to Garden of Gray today "in the gaarden" 😄
One of my favorite bands. Thanks Geeb for noticing them and for judging them. A very underrated band, they always deserved more.
❤❤
I reccomanded Sanctuary, old/new heavy band by rhe same vocalist... RIP Warrel Dane.
BTW. As someone writes above / below, this is not the best song to evaluate Nevermore's music ... It is too calm and does not exactly represent the musical style of this band. Try "Sound of silence", S & G cover 😉😉
*Very* nice catch with the Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds reference, as the singer of the band Warrel Dane had mentioned having influence from that song before. In an earlier song called This Sacrament, he even did a play on words with that title in the lyrics "Lucy in the sky, with diamond eyes/long since dark/I wear her disguise of light...". So that was a meaningful catch in this piece, so many years later for them!
I’ve been a Metal fan for many moons. I’ve always enjoyed the power , lyrics and over all combinations that a band produces. I just don’t have the ear to really point out each individual instruments contribution to each song ( I just know it sounds good and I like it). But how you break down the instruments and what their sound brings to the song , really opens up a new way of listening to a song I already loved. It makes it that much more enjoyable seeing it through a different lens . It’s almost like hearing the song for the first time . Thank you. I will continue to follow!
One of my favorite bands ever!!! Had the please of seeing them live years back. Yeah I agree I would have picked a different song from their catalog but a good choice none the less. Jeff Loomis is a huge influence for me. RIP Warrel Dane.
Yay, *Geebz* 😀! One of the greatest bands of all time! Quick bullet points on *Nevermore:*
• Formed in 1991
• Went _inactive_ in 2011
- In April 2015, lead singer *Warrel Dane* confirmed that *Nevermore* had _not_ disbanded
• Dane, a co-founder, died on 13 December 2017, *R.I.P.* 😢; no reunion would be coming
• This album was recorded in July 2000
• The Production, Engineering, Mixing _and_ Mastering on this album is _perfect_ because it was done by *the God of Mixing & Mastering, Andy Sneap* 🙏
• This is my personal _favourite_ from their songs, such _thoughtful_ lyrics 🤔!
I'm a huge Nevermore fan. I only found them a year or two ago, being a big metal fan, and loving complex guitar parts, they just never came up in the conversation or the algorithm. Very underrated in the cultural/ metal zeitgeist. If you want to see the band's best work, you should check out the This Godless Endeavor album. Almost every song on it is great (all the ones written primarily by Jeff Loomis, the main guitar player). You can also check out Jeff's solo work, or his work with Keith Merrow Conquering Dystopia for excellent playing.
To get the guitar sounds, you're right, Jeff Loomis plays all the parts about perfectly twice. There's a breakdown with him and a producer on UA-cam where they play the two DI tracks of a riff, and they're basically identical. From what I've read, most of the sounds from this album are a combination of Mesa Boogie and Diezel amps, with various levels of blending and micing techniques. Hard to copy exactly, but you can get close enough. Overall Jeff is a really tight, amazing player. They play 7 strings, with everything down a half step (EVH tuning, with a low A flat 7th string), except maybe 1 or 2 songs that are in drop C# on a 6 string. Oh and during this era, he put an extra thick bass string on in that 7th string position. He later went away from it, because nobody can really tell, but that's part of the mystery of the guitar sound.
Musically, the highlights from the This Godless Endeavor album are The Psalm of Lydia, Born, My Acid Words, This Godless Endeavor. Lyrically, I would check out the songs Medicated Nation, Final Product, Sentient 6 and This Godless Endeavor. (Like I said, an amazing album, especially for coming out in 2005).
On their other albums, a few highlights are The Obsidian Conspiracy, Without Morals, Termination Proclamation, I Voyager, Tomorrow Turned into Yesterday, Narcosynthesis, The River Dragon has Come, Inside Four Walls. Their earlier albums aren't as well composed in my opinion, but there are some gems in the Politics of Ecstasy and Dreaming Neon Black.
Its funny because i just started to relisten to Nevermore yesterday lol but, while this isnt a bad choice for a first timer, id say that it doesnt fully encapsulate the band (this is a lot more mellow)
If you wanna do some bangers next time id suggest : Born, The psalm of Lydia, A future uncertain, Seed awakening, Never purify, Ambivalent (last 3, listen to the remastered and remixed version)
You should be sticking some of their earlier gothic thrash stuff in there too: I Am the Dog, Poison Godmachine, Next in Line, In Memory, What Tomorrow Knows, The Learning. I think they were even better, and certainly more original, back then...
One of my top 5 bands all time. Jeff Loomis can shred but knows when to just be melodic. River Dragon.
I was never into this band but this one song was on a tape I had when I was a teenager, such a catchy tune. Great example of those 'stacked' power chords where you add the 5th on the top string
One of my absolute favorite bands. Incredible riffs & solos, powerful & emotional vocals & lyrics, pounding & creative drumming. RIP Warrel Dane.
RIP Warrel
Not the song I would have gone with as a first one for Nevermore but great song nonetheless. Most of their songs are a whole lot more metal. Jeff Loomis is widely regarded as a legendary guitarist in the prog metal scene, and one of the guitarists that introduced extended range guitarist into the metal scene as well. If you want to have another song from them on the channel, I recommend Poison Godmachine!
In the meantime, I'd be very happy if you'd put some The Black Dahlia Murder up on the show. :)
New Arch Enemy album is great!
I too agree that Poison Godmachine is a banger!! And i second some black dahlia murder \m/ anything off of the Ritual album is gonna do a pretty good job
@@aesirloki4833 I'd already commented on a bunch of other videos that he should do Blood in the Ink
It's just so difficult with TBDM because of how ridiculously solid their entire catalog is
@@BackflipsBen Agree 100% theyre all solid, its one of those band like Revocation that doesnt have a bad album. I have my favorites, but theyre equaly as good as the next TBDM fan. A shrine to madness would be a good choice for a mix of everything it has to offer
Thanks for the decomposition Geebz, as always.
I just discovered nevermore this year, really surprised me. Hope you can get around to more of their songs
Wow. Blown away to see this on here. Nevermore are definitely a top five for me.
Brilliant old album. Loved it back then, still like it 😀
What the what? Nevermore? Hell yeah let's do this.
Edit: Not sure I would have started with this song but Dane's vocals on this track still gives me goosebumps.
Please do more nevermore!!!
The River Dragon Has Come, and Heart Collector might be a good next choice :D
Thank you!!!! Thank YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIP Warrel
They came from the end of Sanctuary. Warrel Dane had one of the most distinctive voices that I have ever heard. If only Sanctuary could have continued. RIP Warrel Dane
This Godless Endeavor is a masterpiece 👌. I really hope you get to the title track at some point.
I used to listen to this album a lot back in the day. I was far more at home with black and death metal at the time but there was something so alluring about this album. Great track from an interesting album.
Great song from great album.
More. NEVERMORE! =)
So i never knew about this version of this song, my only experience with it is the All That Remains cover on their Overcome album which had no mention of it being a cover. So cool to see its original form!
Check out Jeff loomis solo song "Jato Unit" live on the EMG performance. Awesome technical guitar playing
My favourite Nevermore song. This was the song that got me into them in high school.
This song is too good. Great pick!
Nevermore is one of my favorite bands and I can say I was lucky enough to see them live about half a dozen times back in the late 90ies to early 2000's and even met the band on a couple of occasions. Every album of theirs has a unique take on their style and is full of great tracks. Personally, I'm partial to their 1996 album "The Politics of Ecstasy." The last track off that album, "The Learning", is absolutely phenomenal and lyrically is a deep exploration of the concept of AI.
Unfortunately, their vocalist passed away in 2017, so there is almost no chance of a reunion in the future. Their guitarist, Jeff Loomis, is astoundingly good and is currently in Arch Enemy, although most agree that he is brutally underutilized in that band. He also has some solo and collaborative instrumental releases he's done over the years, as well as a plethora of guest guitar work for tons of projects. I would say this song is great, but it really doesn't showcase Loomis's ability; the solo and rhythm riffs are very tame by his standards.
Nothing is sacred when no one is saved
Nothing's forever so count your days
Nothing is final and no one is real
Pray for tomorrow and find your empty still
Nevermore is so great, it’s hard to pick songs. This one isn’t entirely representative of their sound, but I do think it showcases their smart songwriting abilities. If you want their magnum opus (in my opinion), you have to check out This Godless Endeavor. It’s a 9 minute beast of a track that just flies by.
Other quality songs: Narcosynthesis, Final Product, Born. It’s really hard to go wrong with any tracks from Dead Heart in a Dead World or This Godless Endeavor.
On the Nevermore train 👌🤘 This Godless Endeavor (the song) is a masterpiece. Hope you get to decompose it.
This is start of one of the best guitar player to come around in a good while, mr Loomis is presume
Nevermore we’re an amazing band. This song doesn’t really sound like the majority of their catalog. I would to hear you review some more.
Really Happy to see you review Nevermore! Highly underrated band. I agree with kyle, The river Dragon has come would be a better choice.
R.I.P Warrel Dane, we lost a legend with his passing
Great! Spot on! Next suggestion would be This Godless endeavor by Nevermore ;-)
This Godless Endeavour is an absolute must for this band
This is the mellow side, obsidian conspiracy. little heavy, just bit. Finally someone valid is checking them out. Thank brother. Be well
Year of the Voyager, great Nevermore video/concert to watch.
“Enemies of Reality” is where I would have started you
You should react to the singer/guitarist, Warrel Dane's (RIP) solo album Praises To The War Machine. Nice blend of heavy (When We Pray) and mellow (Chosen Misery).
Random, but I love that hat. Where could my bald head find the comfort of that fashionable cover?
RIP Warrel Dane
sentient 6! or the river dragon has come are my suggestions. thus makes me so happy nevermore will ALWAYS tug at my heart wonderful band.
Awesome! Nevermore is a truly unique band. If you take reccomendations, i would give you three songs that are amazing in my opinion and very different to each other: Dreaming Neon Black, Sentient 6 and, of course, The River Dragon Has Come
What you said about the solo is perfect, especially because Jeff Loomis is one of the greatest shredders in history :)
This song is a very radio-friendly one, they have many other interesting songs, a perfect band for one of your deep dives/slowburns
You NEED to do the title track of this album. Dead Heart In A Dead World is a ridiculous track showcasing their varied sound.
Since you reacted to Disturbed's interpretation of The Sound Of Silence, you should definitely check out Nevermore's rendition. Without spoiling it, it's a wildly different take on the song. And, it is far more representative of what Nevermore's overall sound is, much more so than Believe in Nothing (as great as it is).
SYSTEM CHECK, NEON BLACK!
check out horrendous - stranger, would love to see your reaction. Would love to see some more death metal on here
Nevermore is a fantastic band, one of the best Prog metal bands out there, sadly Warrel Dane (the vocalist) passed away a couple years back from a heart attack while on tour in South America. He really had one hell of an awesome voice. Jeff Loomis, the lead guitarist, is one of the best in the industry, he now plays lead guitar for Arch Enemy.
As far as suggestions, literally any song from Dreaming Neon Black (this is a concept album about Warrel Dane's fiance that went missing and is presumed dead after she got involved in a cult) is fantastic, though personally i like "Decontruction" and "No More Will" (the guitar solo in this song is just fuckin amazing). "The River Dragon Has Come", "The Sound of Silence" (they do a very unique rendition of this song), and "Dead Heart, In A Dead World" all great songs from the album of the same name. other great songs "This Godless Endeavor", "The Politics of Ecstacy", and "I, Voyager"
1991-1993 was the end of metal at the time, but also some of the best metal was released right at that time.
This might be one of their more radio friendly and straightforward tracks but it's a song I love nonetheless. It makes me nostalgic for when I discovered it 13-14 years ago.
With that being said, Nevermore have many great tracks you'll love Geebz. This is from one of their best albums. A few songs I can recommend from this album alone that I bet you'll enjoy - The Heart Collector, The River Dragon Has Come and Insignificant. Songs that send chills down my spine.
R.I.P. Warrel
This Godless Endeavor is THE Nevemore song, deff gotta check that out \../
Nevermore's This Godless Endeavor album is a top 10 metal album for me. Probably top 5 of the last 30 years.
The guitarist from Forced Entry joined this band at some point. If you want to be blown away by by a a little known band, you should try "Bone Crackin' Fever" by Forced Entry.
A sorely under reacted to band. So much talent in one band should have been illegal. Dreaming Neon Black is their best album and best song. Thank you for giving this band its due. RIP Warrel Dane.
This is just giving you a _taste_ of this phenomenal band . . .
Its still a HUGE tragedy that vocalist Warrel Dane is no longer with us. Van Williams, one of the most underrated drummers in Metal (he's a Machine!), Jim Shepard's awesome Bass playing and tone, and the one of a kind technical and melodic master of the guitar, Jeff Loomis (now with Arch Enemy, great gig, but the man needs his own band again).
Everyone is digging up some choice tracks for you to listen to. Every album has OUTSTANDING songs, but my fave albums are; "Dreaming Neon Black" (with the late great guitarist Tim Calvert, formerly of the Bay Area Thrashers *Forbidden* where he trades-off guitar licks with Loomis), "Dead Heart in a Dead World" (both I've seen live), and "This Godless Endeavor" (but "Sea of Possibilities" and "C.B.F (Chrome Black Future)" from their debut, their Ep "In Memory" and "The Politics of Ecstasy" have special tracks within. They could be technical, melodic, moody, doomy, thrashy, dark, groovy, beautiful, aggressive and progressive, and many times all in one (song). Sometimes you could FEEL the emotive pain in what Warrel wrote. He drove the music, in-turn the music enhanced his emotions, that could change from sadness, dark, longing, to all out aggression and anger.
You "got it" about how this very melodic/ballad-like track keeps itself from being too commercialized and over-produced, taking away the punch, because its still there but enhances the melodies with the heaviness and production that heightens it all.
An all instrumental band you will LOVE Geebz, and I've been meaning to write to you about (you had a guitar piece you featured that reminded me of...); *Conquering Dystopia* featuring Jeff Loomis & Keith Merrow.
- Yet another rabbit-hole Geebz \m/.
Btw - on this album (where EVERY track is special); their version of "Sounds of Silence" BURIES Disturbed's over played/over analyzed version of Simon & Garfunkel, and I say this because Nevermore made it DARKER, and _reimagined_ to make it a track of their own. The "lyrics" become darker (imo), and I grew-up with that track when it debuted. BOTH are iconic in their own right. I always believed; if you are going to cover a famous song, make it different, if its mellow, make it HEAVIER or more interesting, and an "interpretation", not a exact cover or simply add overdrive . . . I might as well listen to the original.
Another cover recommendation; Progressive Thrashers (1988) *Realm* - "Eleanor Rigby", probably my fave cover, but their original music was VERY unique in the Thrash world (only 2 albums).
Rest in Peace Warrel \m/.
I've requested "the river dragon has come" multiple times....
It may not be their best, but "Tomorrow Turned Into Yesterday" is my favourite of Nevermore.
Dude, you need to do This Godless Endeavor!
Check out Dream in Neon Black from Nevermore.
I think The River Dragon has come should be next! Also an underrated song by them is The Seven Tongues of God. I think you would have quite a bit to say about both of these songs for sure.
Ahh Nevermore, my absolute dearest band in metal. Started listening when I was 12, roughly, so have know them about 20 years at this point.
I have a hard time suggesting songs of them though as they have so many colours:
There's the trippy grittiness of the Politics of Ecstasy, the mournful madness of Dreaming Neon Black, tight metal anthems of Dead Heart in a Dead World, frantically groovy Enemies of Reality, the virtuosity of this Godless Endeavor, the overstrained The Obsidian Conspiracy...
Through every phase they have an intellectual curiosity with themes of spirituality, politics & morality.
Seminal songs for me would be The Seven Tongues of God, The Tiananmen Man, Beyond Within, Dreaming Neon Black, Narcosynthesis, The River Dragon Has Come, Enemies of Reality, I, Voyager, Born, This Godless Endeavor, The Termination Proclamation, And the Maiden Spoke... But they've mostly been more of an album experience for me
Rip Warrel❤…..dreaming neon black
That melody definitely reminds me of something...
Whole record is full of killer songs
pls do the river dragon has come by nevermore its so good one of my all time fav songs