I think the only point he was trying to make is that back in the day many music artist started out in the church. During the 60s, all the way up until the 90s many who became mainstream R&B, funk and soul artists sang in the church before they transitioned into the other genres. That’s the reason that R&B, soul, funk music sounded more rich and soulful in the past.
Something important is being missed here. In church people sing and play live instruments and they learn how to be a musician. A lot of people now are not learning the craft of being a musician. Even in schools music programs have been eliminated so churches are filled with creative people that have an outlet to learn and it develops over time. The entertainment industry doesn’t want to find church talent. They want to do what’s easiest and that is to make “hit” records with little or no talent behind the record.
I just think he's talking about the quality of the music and the singers. Case in point, the singers of today can't hold a candle to the singers of 30-40 years ago. Although, I do agree with what you all are saying.
Unfortunately the industry isn't looking for singers OR "Sangers." It's about the bottom line which is money. If you look good and can dance they have auto tunes and talented sound engineers.
The music industry has destroyed many that came from the church. It calls to question, why is the black church always end up in secular music? Only a handful go on to be gospel music artists.
Don’t be fooled: many in the gospel music industry are just as secular (in lifestyle) as a secular artist. 🤷🏾♀️ Kirk Franklin comes to mind. Test the Spirit (1 John 4).
@@TheGoodLifeStarterPack I'm not fooled. It's way more than Kirk and it dates back decades. Even the gospel music out grandmothers listened to. Most were not saved.
@@TheGoodLifeStarterPack I kid you not. My mother and grandmother listened to James Cleveland and a whole lotta quartettes, that I’ve learned over the past two or three years, weren’t saved. They just sung gospel music. If you’d listen to some oldies, most had nothing to do with the gospel.
I think what he’s referring to is the amount of practicing and vocal training that was done by the singers in the church! Choir practice lasts hours and you’re maybe practicing for 2-3 days out of the week if not more! So a lot of vocal training was done and it was taken way more seriously back then to me as well. Today people just pick up a mic and hope they sound good and then get in the studio and tweak it. You couldn’t do that back then either you really had to use your voice
It takes 10K hours to master anything, including the voice. You usually achieve those types of hours in a church choir if you attend regularly and practice likewise. Only professional repertories can compete with old-fashioned, gospel time. Compare this to someone who just decided to grab their phone and sing. No comparison! Listen to Phil Perry of the Montclairs, Al green, Chaka Chan, or Aretha. These are trained voices that stood the test of time. Today’s artist lack diaphragm and box control because it is never considered let alone developed.
CMON TRACKSTARS...WHAT IS THIS HOT GARBAGE YALL TALKMBOUT? None of these singers had the ANOINTING when they were also singing the songs they did--especially Jodeci and others (tell me, is the ANOINTING there when they were singing 'FREEKIN' YOU'?) . It's that church music training, styling and discipline that is central to THE WAY many of the older R&B singers SANG, NOT THE ANOINTING. THE ANOINTING FROM THE SPIRIT ISNT AVAILABLE FOR R&B MUSIC THAT AINT GLORIFYING HIM. Yall got is twisted and backwards like the rest of them do. Jermaine was on it explaining it better than the Trackstars crew. YALL GOT IT MESSED UP...
Definitely not talking anointing...Church choirs, musician's, and any other music assembly got actual coaching and training...No one talks about the practicing piece
I thought I heard God tell me stop singing. You see I can rap, and "church sing", but do you think it was God telling me to just rap because youth don't wanna hear 'church singing"
Demons grow up and be raised in churches that's why the devil can get a hold of him and make them do use them in the world as soon as they think they can make a lot of money but when you're a True believer you're not going to go out just for the money you want to go out to glorify God and let your gifts and times be used for him not for the world
Yes the Holy Spirit keeps it clean and more of a good and righteous focus on true love songs if that's what you doing but if you promote too much of the devil stuff that ain't the Holy Ghost that's the devil ghost
But it ain't about going to church if you ain't filled with the Holy Spirit and serving God with your music you letting the devil use your skills in your ability it ain't about just being in church you need to be right with God and have a relationship with God to glorify God in some way in your music in their music is not doing that Glory find the devil most of the time
It’s seldom that I agree or understand what Dupri spews out of his mouth, but I do think he’s only saying the quality of R&B is lost because many of these new folks don’t have that church background.
ANOINTING??? Did he just say…ANOINTING???? NO, what are you talking about? Jodeci didn’t have anointing; they may have had a good upbringing, talent, and strong foundation in morals… BUT no anointing. These boys were backslidden, look at their documentary. Being extremely talented does not equal anointing. I know a preacher that has a photographic memory and could preach the house down, but the photographic memory was a naturally born inclination, not a gift or anointing. Last but not least, temptation rarely lets go of talented individuals. We pump their heads up, the world pumps their heads up, and all that’s left is pride and lust to consume them. If you’re going to call jodeci anointed, then be willing to call ALL the people that’s talented anointed including RKelly and the like…
Well what you are missing is yes they do have anointing - God bestows talents upon believers and unbelievers. It's just that their anointing or talents were not combined with a life of truth faith. So yea, it's anointing
If you really believe that in your heart and have absolutely no scripture to back that up, I wish you well. This is why many people have checked out of the church because of this foolishness. False application and interpretation of scriptures, not rightly dividing the scriptures, and hypocrisy. You might as well call Lucifer anointed…
The problem is some of the Traditional black churches dont support music artist who are doing gospel music. I got saved listening to Gospel Gangsta in the 90's.
Germaine is not talking specifically about the Holy Spirit. He’s talking about (the talent) people have to sing that comes from the culture of the church south. Everyone that sings well in the church does not have the holyspirit . There’s people that weren’t raised in the church n can sing well. Because if they the (singers)did wouldn’t it ( spirit of zGod) lead you n guide you into all truth?The singers from the church actually signed with the world n gospel labels n their lives got worse and not because of the suffering of Christ. It because they were fellowshipping with darkness, walking in the flesh,or they were never saved. I’ve seen people sing like that n go out n be filled with all kinds of devilish behavior. I love Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Dion Warwick, Mariah Carey, Pattie Labelle all great singers came out of the church now were they influenced by the industry or was the industry influenced by their walk with God? They are amazing singers now they have talent! The Gospel changes hearts n minds when you read it, hear it, n meditate on it. Singing is an amazing talent that amplifies the word into a beautiful melody so we can audibly consume it. But never look at the talent look at the life they live it will let you know that they are walking in the spirit. These kids don’t have a talent/historical perspective to look n learn from like mentors from older people. Ask them who was hot or talented 30;40; 50 years ago they don’t know. They may name 2 or 3 because of (hip hop n r and b) but aside from that they don’t know what ever happened to Artist development? Remember that?
I never felt that Sasha Fierce was demonic, I think that was Beyoncé’s way of saying she’s in the zone. At the same time I recognize that there are other demonic elements within her music, I just never thought Sasha Fierce was one of them.
It’s a spirit she channels, she said herself that Sasha enters her while on stage, she also said she can never do what she does on stage during rehearsal.
So are you going to separate Sasha fierce from beyoncé? Tiphani Montgomery has a video where she explains the witch element of Beyonce well. So yea you can't just say Sasha fierce aight but not look at Beyonce, lol
@@CacaoFlower a lot of minors in the industry. One in particular was one of the boys, they were 2, kris kross, that had that very well known song: "jump, jump". He and not only jermaine, ruined that boy's life from the abuse.
God's children have to realize that the BEST SINGERS are PLUCKED from their sacred home (House of the TRUE GOD) by the Darkside gatekeepers and the original music maker himself (Lucifer) because he wants to shame our Mighty God by saying ..Ha Ha,,I ve taken another one from you.. We see time and time again what happens to our Great Church singers and musicians once they enter the "Entertainment Business"..They become children of the Original Music Being himself...What happens then.. Drugs,,Sexual immorality,,,Foul Language ( I e Jermaine Dupre as he describes Anthony Hamilton Church voice) lol...People just don't get it, man.. It's Soooooo much easier for a true child of the church to be Chosen and PLUCKED from the church so that Lucifer can then Attempt to shame GOD and at the same time put Shame on the SINGERS church and home family (Mom and Dad) especially. ( Example...Jodeci) ..Both sets of talented brothers were easily seduced away from the church against their Church Parents blessings...Look what happens to these once innocent talented church musicians and singers..(I e. Devante)..Dude is a genius Music maker but he was easily seduced by the dark side..(Sex and Drugs). Singers in the church gotta realize that they are being watched and tested ..Do you want GOD or the gold and SEEMINGLY riches of this earthly setting ? How could the "Staple Singers" go from singing a GODLY Gospel great like" I'll take You There" to "Let's do it Again". with their earthly father on stage with them Singing with them about sex????!!!!..Lucifer was laughing all the time...Time is counting down for real.. What I've written is my opinion ... Thank you Track Starz for your humble platform of truth. Be Blessed.
God doesn't anoint wicked people: * Psalm 45:7, "You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions;..." 2 John 1:9 , "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son..." * Galatians 5-19 - 21, "And the works of the flesh are also evident, which are: adultery, whoredom, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolatry, witchcraft, enmities, strife, jealousy, wraths, rivalries, dissensions, sects, envyings, murders, drunkenness, reveling, and such like, of which I tell you before, as I also said before, that those doing such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God. "
I think the only point he was trying to make is that back in the day many music artist started out in the church. During the 60s, all the way up until the 90s many who became mainstream R&B, funk and soul artists sang in the church before they transitioned into the other genres. That’s the reason that R&B, soul, funk music sounded more rich and soulful in the past.
There's a difference of having a gift and having thee anointing. The anointing breaks the yoke. Ref- Isaiah 10:27
There's a difference between annointing and church trained talents. The anointing is for God's glory, the talent is transferrable to the world
Something important is being missed here. In church people sing and play live instruments and they learn how to be a musician. A lot of people now are not learning the craft of being a musician. Even in schools music programs have been eliminated so churches are filled with creative people that have an outlet to learn and it develops over time. The entertainment industry doesn’t want to find church talent. They want to do what’s easiest and that is to make “hit” records with little or no talent behind the record.
My mother is 66 years old and has been saying this for the longest that the music industry got there sound from the church.
they did, but unlike the TS crew, it isnt the anointing for all that they talkmbout
Satan can use your gifts and amplify them for worldly purpose
I just think he's talking about the quality of the music and the singers. Case in point, the singers of today can't hold a candle to the singers of 30-40 years ago. Although, I do agree with what you all are saying.
Unfortunately the industry isn't looking for singers OR "Sangers." It's about the bottom line which is money. If you look good and can dance they have auto tunes and talented sound engineers.
IVE SAID THIS SO MANY TIMES THAT I WAS NOT A FAN OF THE WEEKEND. Never have. It was just something about him that I just couldn’t shake.
His toxicity
He’s a satanist
They Lost the soul of the music... God's anointing breaks yokes and chains ....its better to be known by God and to sing for Him.
The music industry has destroyed many that came from the church. It calls to question, why is the black church always end up in secular music? Only a handful go on to be gospel music artists.
Don’t be fooled: many in the gospel music industry are just as secular (in lifestyle) as a secular artist. 🤷🏾♀️ Kirk Franklin comes to mind. Test the Spirit (1 John 4).
@@TheGoodLifeStarterPack I'm not fooled. It's way more than Kirk and it dates back decades. Even the gospel music out grandmothers listened to. Most were not saved.
@@dishikadillon And I just learned something new. Wow!
@@TheGoodLifeStarterPack I kid you not. My mother and grandmother listened to James Cleveland and a whole lotta quartettes, that I’ve learned over the past two or three years, weren’t saved. They just sung gospel music. If you’d listen to some oldies, most had nothing to do with the gospel.
@@dishikadillon they literally “just sung gospel music” is wild! #2024 ☹️
I think what he’s referring to is the amount of practicing and vocal training that was done by the singers in the church! Choir practice lasts hours and you’re maybe practicing for 2-3 days out of the week if not more! So a lot of vocal training was done and it was taken way more seriously back then to me as well. Today people just pick up a mic and hope they sound good and then get in the studio and tweak it. You couldn’t do that back then either you really had to use your voice
It takes 10K hours to master anything, including the voice. You usually achieve those types of hours in a church choir if you attend regularly and practice likewise. Only professional repertories can compete with old-fashioned, gospel time. Compare this to someone who just decided to grab their phone and sing. No comparison! Listen to Phil Perry of the Montclairs, Al green, Chaka Chan, or Aretha. These are trained voices that stood the test of time. Today’s artist lack diaphragm and box control because it is never considered let alone developed.
CMON TRACKSTARS...WHAT IS THIS HOT GARBAGE YALL TALKMBOUT? None of these singers had the ANOINTING when they were also singing the songs they did--especially Jodeci and others (tell me, is the ANOINTING there when they were singing 'FREEKIN' YOU'?) . It's that church music training, styling and discipline that is central to THE WAY many of the older R&B singers SANG, NOT THE ANOINTING. THE ANOINTING FROM THE SPIRIT ISNT AVAILABLE FOR R&B MUSIC THAT AINT GLORIFYING HIM. Yall got is twisted and backwards like the rest of them do. Jermaine was on it explaining it better than the Trackstars crew. YALL GOT IT MESSED UP...
So true Guys
Definitely not talking anointing...Church choirs, musician's, and any other music assembly got actual coaching and training...No one talks about the practicing piece
I thought I heard God tell me stop singing. You see I can rap, and "church sing", but do you think it was God telling me to just rap because youth don't wanna hear 'church singing"
No no no he can not anoint you. He will trick you into going against God’s will and then slam you on your back and laugh at you.
Demons grow up and be raised in churches that's why the devil can get a hold of him and make them do use them in the world as soon as they think they can make a lot of money but when you're a True believer you're not going to go out just for the money you want to go out to glorify God and let your gifts and times be used for him not for the world
Yes the Holy Spirit keeps it clean and more of a good and righteous focus on true love songs if that's what you doing but if you promote too much of the devil stuff that ain't the Holy Ghost that's the devil ghost
But it ain't about going to church if you ain't filled with the Holy Spirit and serving God with your music you letting the devil use your skills in your ability it ain't about just being in church you need to be right with God and have a relationship with God to glorify God in some way in your music in their music is not doing that Glory find the devil most of the time
It’s seldom that I agree or understand what Dupri spews out of his mouth, but I do think he’s only saying the quality of R&B is lost because many of these new folks don’t have that church background.
ANOINTING??? Did he just say…ANOINTING???? NO, what are you talking about? Jodeci didn’t have anointing; they may have had a good upbringing, talent, and strong foundation in morals… BUT no anointing.
These boys were backslidden, look at their documentary. Being extremely talented does not equal anointing. I know a preacher that has a photographic memory and could preach the house down, but the photographic memory was a naturally born inclination, not a gift or anointing.
Last but not least, temptation rarely lets go of talented individuals. We pump their heads up, the world pumps their heads up, and all that’s left is pride and lust to consume them.
If you’re going to call jodeci anointed, then be willing to call ALL the people that’s talented anointed including RKelly and the like…
Well what you are missing is yes they do have anointing - God bestows talents upon believers and unbelievers. It's just that their anointing or talents were not combined with a life of truth faith. So yea, it's anointing
If you really believe that in your heart and have absolutely no scripture to back that up, I wish you well. This is why many people have checked out of the church because of this foolishness. False application and interpretation of scriptures, not rightly dividing the scriptures, and hypocrisy. You might as well call Lucifer anointed…
The problem is some of the Traditional black churches dont support music artist who are doing gospel music. I got saved listening to Gospel Gangsta in the 90's.
What. No. Lol.
Germaine is not talking specifically about the Holy Spirit. He’s talking about (the talent) people have to sing that comes from the culture of the church south. Everyone that sings well in the church does not have the holyspirit . There’s people that weren’t raised in the church n can sing well. Because if they the (singers)did wouldn’t it ( spirit of zGod) lead you n guide you into all truth?The singers from the church actually signed with the world n gospel labels n their lives got worse and not because of the suffering of Christ. It because they were fellowshipping with darkness, walking in the flesh,or they were never saved. I’ve seen people sing like that n go out n be filled with all kinds of devilish behavior. I love Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Dion Warwick, Mariah Carey, Pattie Labelle all great singers came out of the church now were they influenced by the industry or was the industry influenced by their walk with God? They are amazing singers now they have talent! The Gospel changes hearts n minds when you read it, hear it, n meditate on it. Singing is an amazing talent that amplifies the word into a beautiful melody so we can audibly consume it. But never look at the talent look at the life they live it will let you know that they are walking in the spirit. These kids don’t have a talent/historical perspective to look n learn from like mentors from older people. Ask them who was hot or talented 30;40; 50 years ago they don’t know. They may name 2 or 3 because of (hip hop n r and b) but aside from that they don’t know what ever happened to Artist development? Remember that?
I never felt that Sasha Fierce was demonic, I think that was Beyoncé’s way of saying she’s in the zone. At the same time I recognize that there are other demonic elements within her music, I just never thought Sasha Fierce was one of them.
It’s a spirit she channels, she said herself that Sasha enters her while on stage, she also said she can never do what she does on stage during rehearsal.
So are you going to separate Sasha fierce from beyoncé? Tiphani Montgomery has a video where she explains the witch element of Beyonce well. So yea you can't just say Sasha fierce aight but not look at Beyonce, lol
So her alter ego isn't demonic but she herself is demonic? Lol 😂
Isn't this man a known pdf ile?
@@patrizziad3446 😳
Who did he abuse?
@@CacaoFlower a lot of minors in the industry. One in particular was one of the boys, they were 2, kris kross, that had that very well known song: "jump, jump". He and not only jermaine, ruined that boy's life from the abuse.
@@patrizziad3446 I seen a doc or video bout him and Jada dating when he was 15 and she was 21/22 at the time
God's children have to realize that the BEST SINGERS are PLUCKED from their sacred home (House of the TRUE GOD) by the Darkside gatekeepers and the original music maker himself (Lucifer) because he wants to shame our Mighty God by saying ..Ha Ha,,I ve taken another one from you.. We see time and time again what happens to our Great Church singers and musicians once they enter the "Entertainment Business"..They become children of the Original Music Being himself...What happens then.. Drugs,,Sexual immorality,,,Foul Language ( I e Jermaine Dupre as he describes Anthony Hamilton Church voice) lol...People just don't get it, man.. It's Soooooo much easier for a true child of the church to be Chosen and PLUCKED from the church so that Lucifer can then Attempt to shame GOD and at the same time put Shame on the SINGERS church and home family (Mom and Dad) especially. ( Example...Jodeci) ..Both sets of talented brothers were easily seduced away from the church against their Church Parents blessings...Look what happens to these once innocent talented church musicians and singers..(I e. Devante)..Dude is a genius Music maker but he was easily seduced by the dark side..(Sex and Drugs). Singers in the church gotta realize that they are being watched and tested ..Do you want GOD or the gold and SEEMINGLY riches of this earthly setting ? How could the "Staple Singers" go from singing a GODLY Gospel great like" I'll take You There" to "Let's do it Again". with their earthly father on stage with them Singing with them about sex????!!!!..Lucifer was laughing all the time...Time is counting down for real.. What I've written is my opinion ... Thank you Track Starz for your humble platform of truth. Be Blessed.
God doesn't anoint wicked people:
* Psalm 45:7, "You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions;..."
2 John 1:9 , "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son..."
* Galatians 5-19 - 21, "And the works of the flesh are also evident, which are: adultery, whoredom, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolatry, witchcraft, enmities, strife, jealousy, wraths, rivalries, dissensions, sects, envyings, murders, drunkenness, reveling, and such like, of which I tell you before, as I also said before, that those doing such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God. "