I'm always shocked by these trends! Let me give you a sneak peek into the Arab world and what rich countries call "the third world." (I live in Tunisia, so I'm speaking from experience.) Starting with the feminist movement, where they want women to work just like men, here, women have been working for centuries, even more than men. Women have always been working, even if they come from rich families, and we've been maintaining traditional households. If children don't work, chores around the house are considered work until they reach the proper age. For example, I worked most summers because my dad wanted me to learn how to be financially stable and independent, yet one of my life goals is to get married and have a family of my own. As for the "poor," they're obliged to start working at a young age, unfortunately, but this doesn't stop us from getting an education and graduating from the best universities. People who own their own land, plant their own food, and raise animals are considered rich, not a "poor aesthetic." Even though it's one of the hardest things to pursue in life, we still take care of our lands and raise our children to take care of them after us. Also, we're well known for making our own olive oil! My aunt owns olive trees, and every year our whole family goes to pick olives and then takes them to the olive press to make our own olive oil. We do this yearly, so throughout the year, we always have many buckets that we sell and use. We also make our own bread every week-many women make it every day. If you search for types of bread we have, you'll be surprised to know that every country has its own traditional bread-not just countries, but every town and city. Even couscous, which is a traditional meal in Tunisia and Morocco, we literally make it from scratch every year and stock it. Another example is chilies, peppers, our Harissa, rose water, and orange blossom water. (My father was literally picking orange blossoms from our tree just yesterday.) These things are typical to make in every Tunisian home, and if a family wasn't able to do so, they'd buy them from their neighbors. I swear these are just a few examples, and still, the women in our family are working. I'm always shocked by these trends! It's as if they're living in a parallel world where they just discovered how to clean their asses with water instead of wiping, lol.
The traditional wife culture is problematic because it reinforces outdated gender roles, restricts women's autonomy and potential, and undermines the principles of equality and individual freedom. Even if a husband can provide materially, it doesn't justify perpetuating harmful societal norms that limit women's choices and opportunities. Even if a wife romanticizes traditional roles on her own, it doesn't change the underlying issues. Romanticizing traditional roles can still perpetuate harmful gender norms and restrict personal freedom and fulfillment. It's important to critically examine societal expectations and strive for relationships based on equality, mutual respect, and individual agency. The obsession with romanticizing poverty or traditional culture among the rich can be damaging. It glamorizes hardship and the real struggles faced by those in poverty, while reducing women to status symbols or objects of desire, perpetuating inequality and harmful stereotypes. This fixation on superficial qualities and traditional roles often leads to a lack of personal fulfillment and missed opportunities for genuine connection, hiding pursuit of meaningful relationships based on equality, respect, and authenticity. At the same time I don't think we have no right to judge them it's their choice after all.
I don't think these people are pretending to be poor. Why does being wealthy mean having a glitzy, glamorous life? What if these people just choose to live modestly instead of living outside their means to put on a show for us? Honestly, If I were a millionaire, I wouldn't spend my wealth on Hermes bags and Lamborghinis to impress others. I'd drive a normal car, make my meals from scratch, and continue to build my wealth. People like Nara Smith and Ballerina Farm are smart. Just because you have the money, doesn't mean you need to indulge in luxury.
@@U_quintessential.Kit's not outdated just because you don't like it. 😂 Majority of people on this planet live this way. What autonomy and potential exactly? People like you are so disgustingly misogynistic all while pretending to be the opposite. If you tell a woman who's a stay at home mother that she is less than because she's not chasing a girlboss life, you're the problem. I have so much individual freedom and can live my best life, I'm also his equal in my worth but I don't WANT to be equal as in his societal role. I'm not a man and I don't want to be expected to fulfill the roles men fulfill. Also, idk why you people always think women never had anything in their backpackets for worst case scenarios, trad wives always knew how to bake, cook, tailor, sew, farm, etc. They could always work if they had to because their husband passed or got ill or whatever. It's not like they just sit at home and watch TV. How come yall always preach about romanticizing your life but when trad women find joy in it you attack them? Absolutely vile.
I started laughing so hard! And even if it is just a parody, I honestly wouldn't put it past some of the tradwife accounts out there to actually try something like that
I am from India where this 'tradwife' or housewife culture is normalized and my experienced tradwife mom told me is to never depend on anyone whether financially or emotionally.
Same i am from Pakistan and it is a norm here but But everything has two sides two mich of dependency on someone is never good ! We should always have the option of choosing somethin for our selves
Yes, and the most important thing to note is her emphasis on the wastefulness of specifically American, priviliedged content creators. Without that part, it would likely be received as charity for clout.
@@don_ducko You dont understand how this works. The trad wife is the dependent. The system is set up so that the dependent (typically the woman) is receiving. Even in situations where the woman has a job. If he cheats, she gets half. If she cheats, she still gets half. And that's if the woman isn't greedy. I dont know where you got your stories from, but speaking statistically, men have this issue more than you. So if anything you should be feeling sorry for the man. Plus, my aunt is a divorce attorney. So I know I'm right and you're not
@@tonyonaperky2128 umm with all due respect sir, what on Earth are you talking about? Nowhere in this entire thread is a man, a trad wife, or misandry in general mentioned. You seem lost and sound like an alternate universe Miss Trunchbull. Good day.
I wouldn't want to be a house wife. Too much room for financial abuse and coercive control. If it works well, good for them, but the moment it doesn't they don't really have an exit strategy.
True but at the same time have a bit of faith in your partner, cause whoever you choose should be the right one for you but also be cautious, its weird how being vulnerable in this day and age is seen as something sort of weak but at the same time the whole point of relationships is that the other person is someone who you trust and expect to be able to be vulnerable with, so idk man
Exaclty! And no one's immune to illness or even death. So even if these husbands won't cheat on them or leave them, they could still end up alone without anything. Education and a backup plan is SO important. Let's not be silly and naive girlies.
True! It actually costs quite a lot of money to own a farm, and selling your own product (meat, wool, etc) usually earns you more than an hourly salary.
Literally… I thought I’m watching about trad wives but ended up watching about “rich people romanticising poverty”? This girly is feeling herself too much and has become tone deaf. Cultural depth lacking, no attention to the nutritional aspect of homecooking. Apparently poor bake bread from scratch rather than pay $1? Got it 👍 pointless vid..
My godparents had own a farm for ever since I could remember, it's true, they live on the country side, and they do all the work on the farm, just the two of them. By now, they are both in their 70s and still do farm work, and let me tell you, besides the love they have for the liftestyle, the do produce A LOT of money.
All these influencer trad wives are nothing but a bunch of liars and deceivers, while they DO have a job which is creating content as influencers and making money for themselves to be financially independent, they encourage other women to fully submit to their husbands and become fully dependent on their husbands’ incomes. So sad! I feel sorry for all women who would fall for these lies and would risk their own future.
@@SupremeGreatGrandmaster yes. Married, and have a job. Also double graduation and double masters degree. One masters done after wedding. People who are financially aware will always further their skills.
@@Anarchy_Angel94 yes that's the best part. Having an education is the first step towards a secure future. In our country there is a saying like: who is the one who will always stay with you no matter the time, place and age? That is knowledge. Everyone can leave you but not the knowledge you have learnt.
People need to be realistic. Of course you can do whatever you want to but don't be delusional. Your husband could cheat and leave you for someone younger like all these poor women have been telling us on social media lately, they've been left with nothing except their own kids. And even if your husband might be the best one in the world and always loves you - what if he becomes ill or even dies? Could happen to anyone. That's why you need to have a back up plan, education and be prepared to be able living on your own if you'd have to. Women fought for these things for a reason.
80% of divorce are initiated by women. This fantasy world where men keep on leaving women is not real. If it happened to you, you represent less than 21% of divorce stats. Also wealthy women who are trad wives (I say wealthy and not just rich) usually got pretty good prenups and even pretty big life insurance on the husband in case he dies
@@Law_Abiding_Citizen359 women initiating divorces doesn't mean they're the ones giving up on the actual relationship. It tells you nothing about who did what, the only thing it tells you is that women moreso than men are willing to go through with filing the paperwork. For example your husband could go off and cheat, even go so far as to go live with his gf and you're still married on paper. If he thinks filing the paperwork is too much hassle, you're the one that has to do it if you want a divorce. I've heard countless stories of unhappily married couples where no matter how miserable they are, the husband is dragging his feet on the actual divorce paperwork so the woman has to file for it. If the marriage is already dead then simply not filing for divorce won't save it. If you want to prove that it's predominantly women giving up on relationships/marriages, then you're going to have to look at a different statistic and dig into the reasons why. People remaining married also doesn't mean it's a successful marriage, even though lots of people use "successful mariage" to mean a couple that remained married. They could be miserable together but not go through with divorce for several reasons. Often those reasons are financial.
What makes you think Nara doesn't have a backup plan,? She is a model and I'm pretty sure she makes money from her content. How do you know she doesn't have other business? Has she explicitly said you didn't need to make your own money or do you just assume that because she bakes bread from scratch then she must not be making any money? I want to know how you got to that conclusion
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 I wasn't talking about her? I'm aware of that, that's why I don't think there's any problematic about what Nara is doing. She has her job and own money. With my comment I meant all of the young women who aren't in a position like her yet still want to blindly become an actual tradwife. Like many of the women who unfortunately came out on social media talking about how they became a tradwife with NO job, no money, no back up plan, no education. I have no problem with Nara, I have problems with other tradwives on TikTok influencing young women into something potentially dangerous without telling them the risks.
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 It's not just about influencers, but also about ordinary people. Let's admit that being/becoming an influencer is not as easy as it seems, of course it is easier to be one if you yourself are from a rich family or already have a bag of money like Nara (what does she have to do with it, speaking for everyone?). Now, if an ordinary housewife’s husband got sick/died (God forbid)/cheated and left, and they have 5 children and she has never worked and she is young. A husband may “go for milk” and not help HIS OWN children (and this often happens in all countries 🤷🏽♀️). And no matter how educated a woman is and has money, it will be very difficult for her to raise children, and if you imagine that some girls do not have education and work experience... this is a complete fuck-up, because you need a job to feed your family, and if she has no work experience, it is not a fact that she will be hired, even despite her diplomas and good grades. Therefore, it is better not to romanticize this crap, especially to young people 🙆🏽♀️
i dont really see how being a trad wife is...pretending to be poor? countries like the united states, the uk and canada made people wage slave and warped their sense of normality. in Guatemala they make tortilla from scratch, in china they make dumpling from scratch, germans make their own bread, Italians make their pasta from scratch and also their cheese. lot of other cultures make their food from scratch without being poor. we got cultures making humus and yogurt from scratch and i could go on and on. this is not normal to work like a slave and have no time to do anything afterward, this is not normal to work 2 jobs and barely be able to survive. And most importantly , this is not normal to be so detached from the food that you eat. instead of criticizing those women, the masses should focus on doing something about this system that have made them think that the bare minimum (to survive) is something normal.
I couldn't agree more. I work from home but make alot of our food at home fresh just because it's easier and better for us than spending 500 dollars at the grocery store. Bread is super easy and cheap to make at home.
The video is talking about how being a trad wife is being romaticised without realising the actual struggle that comes with it for women and for the whole family. People who are making viral videos are not out there making things to save a dime. They are wealthy stay at home wives who are making money by videos and getting commission on products.
When the topic started treading that when i realized that those countries consider making stuff from scratch for the rich,am African (Ethiopian/Kenyan to be specific)and making food from scratch would be considered for the poor coz it means you are either a farmer, working at a farm or you do not have workers coz you have to get the ingredients for yourself and process it by yourself and make food from scratch.Rich people mostly tend to be the one to afford processed food,helpers or even fastfood Am shocked to see the difference that for us trad wife maybe considered for the poor and career wives for us is for the rich
Being a feminist means having the power to choose your occupation and lifestyle as a woman. If these women find empowerment and confidence in being a homemaker, rather than going out to find work, more power to them.
My only issue with this is how these younger trad wives sugarcoat everything when women who have been trad wives for 20+ years will say to have something of your own because they know the horrors of being completely dependent on another human
@@Vor567tez This is not a valid excuse for being a tradwife. You will have to get a job if your husband passes, leaves you, or becomes disabled. It is much harder to get a job when you’ve been out of the work force for 15+ years. Just something to think about.
Just remember ladies, keep a financial safely net. Your children and yourself being housed and fed are fully dependent on your husband finding you attractive, pleasant, and wanting to be with you if you go down this rabbit hole. There are way too many horror stories about women being left homeless, being abused, having to turn to sex work to feed their children after their man leaves, etc.
You sound like you still live in the 50s. Women are rarely left alone unless they belong to 3rd world countries. Also, one should marry a person only after thoroughly knowing them. Love exists and if your partner truly loves you he/she will never leave you. Also I don't think western women are house wives only. And if they choose to only be a house wife then it's honestly their fault.
Coming from a country where tradwife is not an aesthetic but reality for so many women, let me tell you something my mother, and aunts, all tradwives told me : don't. Don't ever depend on somebody else in this manner.
So all your relatives have Instagrams with followers? Or were they just homemakers? Because WTF is a tradwife at this point? This is starting to sound how like Conservatives use "woke".
I'm a housewife because childcare is more expensive than me staying home. Mix that with mental illness and an introverted nature, and I am more than happy to stay out of the hustle grind
I'm disabled and a housewife. I love it b/c I don't have to be belittled by some boss or customers or coworkers. I make my own schedule and am the CEO of my own little world ❤
ur under a lot of comments whats ur problem with trad wives? cuz this lady said she was happy and you immediately jump to the negative and do so on every single comment urging under
Nothing wrong with being houswife, but these tradwives talk trash about working women, and tell others to give up jobs and career while they make money from social media, that's why I hate them, also they talk bad about feminists whiles using all the rights feminists gave them.
She said she's disabled dafaq is wrong with u, if u disagree with her lifestyle, just scroll over, no need to wish bad karma on her for the crime of not living what u perceive as the ideal feminist life@@tiahnarodriguez3809
What I always miss with videos about tradwives is that they need to be called out on the fact that while they sell the fantasy of a obedient wife they are in reality very tough businesswomen. With the money from content creation alone they are far from being financially dependent on their husband. I’m glad that you pointed it out. They are building their own brands and image with this content bc it is very controversial and the algorithm loves it. The most comments under these vids are women preaching to not go down that road. They cleverly use ragebait combined with selling the dream of a easy life without a 9-5. they get two crowds at once and money is flowing in big time. They are very clever businesswomen that’s a fact.
True, they have their social media knowledge/business acumen & independent savings to fall back on but most 'influencers' are not financially successful. So that still isn't a good safety net for most young and impressionable women who do try to follow them And also as the algorithm changes and people something else to get upset about, that content will stop bringing quite so many views. Unless they pivot their content or already have a good funnel set up by that point, even the best and most successful tradwife accounts won't be able to keep a steady income from it for that long Edit: I watched the rest of the video and the case studies she used aren't even tradwives they're just straight up influencers who cook. She's also just using the tradwife angle to make us comment... In general this video either chooses the wrong clips to make it's point or perhaps it doesn't really know what point it's trying to make.
@@keirahazlewood4223 You dont understand how this works. The trad wife is the dependent. The system is set up so that the dependent (typically the woman) is receiving. Even in situations where the woman has a job. If he cheats, she gets half. If she cheats, she still gets half. And that's if the woman isn't greedy. I dont know where you got your stories from, but speaking statistically, men have this issue more than you. So if anything you should be feeling sorry for the man. Plus, my aunt is a divorce attorney. So I know I'm right, and you're not, because everything you're stating about homelessness happens to men more than women. That's why men talk about prenups. And feminists keep discouraging men from having prenups
breaking news: cooking food from scratch is normal for everyone, poor and rich. it's just that you americans are not used to it! growing up in an italian family, we would consider packaged foods for rich people lol mom was a SAHM dad worked all day everyday and now me and my sister work in healthcare but we can't wait to have our own family. we can always go back to work when and if we want. real feminism is choosing the life YOU want and supporting women who do the same.
Its almost like Geography exists and what is possible for rural italians is impossible for urban Americans living on minimum wage. Your "affordable fresh local ingredients" are Expensive foreign imported products in the US.
@@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600 You can't go to the grocery store and fry up a burger? I'm American and mom cooked from scratch every day. I cook several times a week from scratch.
@@jacktaylor1801 depends on the income level. I’m from an immigrant family who can afford the ingredients imported from my home country. The prices are just really high here. You will need to spend a dollar for what costs a few cents back home. So I sure as hell would not judge ppl who can’t afford it. It’s just mean to assume that just because you’re doing well, doesn’t mean u get to judge others who aren’t. We need more empathy these days. Sometimes ppl cook for scratch. Sometimes ppl can’t. Sometimes ppl don’t want to and eat outside. That’s just LIFE. We need to stop performing and stop expecting others to perform. just live our lives.
If you're poor, you don't make bread from scratch. If you can't afford the bread, you sure as hell can't afford the 7 plus ingredients to make it. I realize now how many people don't know simple things like that about poor people's lives after I came to class one day and no one knew what food stamps and section 8 was or find it unbelievable that my family doesn't own a car. None of these hobbies the people in video do correlate what poor people have to do. They're just hobbies, and trying to turn it around and say they just want to pretend to be poor is ridiculous. Buying a luxury van to live in, making meals from scratch or owning a cow holds no resemblance to modern day poverty, and comparing the two and saying that poor people are becoming victims of this odd romanticism is insane. Some people are just lacking logic, not that I'm trying to attack Zoe. I know she's simply the messenger, and I'm glad she brought such a ridiculous thing to my attention.
I didn't know this,am African and for us making food from scratch majority would be considered poor,because it means you work in the farm or a farmer or you don't have helpers,coz you have to be working in farm to have the ingredients and process it by yourself.rich people are the ones who can afford to buy ready made products.I was shocked when this topic started treading,and realized mking food from scratch in the USA is considered for the rich
@@Emotais Feminists just hate stay at home moms. Especially if they're religious. That's all this is about, they've molded about them so long Family Guy did a bit where Lois called a woman out about it.
I really appreciate that you worked for a few years before going to full-time content creation. There too many out of touch creators in their early twenties who've just been making video essays since high school and have nothing to add.
I see these "trad wife" / "stay at home girlfriend" as clever marketing at best or dangerous trap, at worst. Any woman who is over 30 knows that kind of relationship would be unsustainable in real life, only very young girls could fall for that crap. And there lies the danger. Look at those women who present as "trad", they are all extremely young and beautiful, not one over 30 or God forbid 40! Can you think of why? Can you actually imagine that charade lasting for 5 or 10 years? Woman having the same day over and over and over and presenting to her husband every day as a living doll with no flaws so he doesn't leave her and takes care of her? Many if not all women over 30 would tell you that's nonsense and it would never work! No matter how rich he is. She will and would get tired of that in few years, and later she could develop some health issues as people do during years of life, and not feel or look so hot, she could start resenting her husband and he could resent her for "doing nothing" and if you, God forbid, get sick so that your looks are gone, you are in deep, deep trouble. Even if your husband is really nice genuine great man, at one point you will both have to see how pointless all that presentation is. I am just saying, all those women who promote this, are maybe 19-23 and that makes young girls think it's a fairytale. And that's where the danger is. We should be aware there are no such thing as fairytale in life. There is no such thing as perfect life, it's all unpredictable and very subjective. Not one size fits all. This "trend" could produce many many horrible marriages, and many miserable women in several years. Sure, you can't hate because it's not ok for influencer to hate, but I really think this trend is vicious and dangerous for very young women who think this is escape from real life. It's not. Be aware. The worst men love this trend, they want a woman who they can control and who can not escape them, ever. It may seem cute and macho at the beginning but after several years, not so cute at all. I don't like this one bit.
A marriage´s quality isn´t based upon the working dynamics but the respect dynamics. No amount of each person having their own job is going to make them be more in love. The opposite, as being stressed out from unfulfilling jobs that pay less in this shitty economy that is inflated by the amount of jobs is not conducive to love. While there is always a fad and bad faith actor behind every movement, you have to engage with the ideas in an intellectually honest manner rather than hypothesize the worst case scenario and say that is representative of the idea. The divorce rates are bad regardless of whether both partners work or the roles are traditional... it´s almost as if the issues lie somewhere else.
@@zerothehero.takeasip6612 you got me wrong. This is not about being housewife or househusband. It's ok not to work and stay home. I am talking about idealized dynamics of fairytale marriage where roles are FIRMLY set for both people, and they have to play them each and every day. I might not described this well, but the point is relationship is not role playing. And it's dangerous to get married to someone who expects pretty, always happy and perfectly made up wife, who is never tired, sick or unhappy, waiting for him at home and wife who "knows her place". It has nothing to do with real traditional marriages. My grandma was traditional, she lead the whole house and worked her butt off every day, she was a total hero and bad-ass! She was housewife but far far away from these pure for esthetic and marketing role plays. What I am also saying this model "you listen and do what I say, I make money" could attract the worst men, controllable narcissists who won't let you leave. Again, nothing to do with real housewives or traditional wives, this is a pure "trend".
@@zerothehero.takeasip6612 Having your own income and money in your bank account that other people cannot touch means you have more options (you can leave the relationship quickly if you need to), more safety and makes it more likely you're together because you want to instead of needing to for financial reasons. Being financially dependent on your partner is just not a good idea, regardless of how much respect there is both ways. Someone can lose respect for their partner in a second. Divorce rates aren't a measure of how many relationships are unhappy. There are a lot of unhappily married people who stay married, and there were a lot more in the past (going by what I know about my parents generation) because of increased social stigma about divorce and less financial independence for women. Being the stay at home wife/gf is a lot more fun if you have safety money.
There are plenty of women in their 30s and 40s living perfectly well in a traditional marriage, they’re just not the generation that’s blasting it on social media. Traditional marriage isn’t about financial control or being perfect for your husband, it’s about a man and woman coming together to form a strong team and balance out each other’s strengths and weaknesses in order to build a lasting family.
@@smartypantspod That’s what you think, but many men see tradrelationships about control and many women see trad relationships as an easy way to get out of working. Regardless of reasoning there is a reason why tradwives 30+ do not advocate for girls and women to get into this lifestyle. The tradwife to welfare pipeline is still going strong.
As for BallerinaFarm, she never said they were poor. It also doesn't take rocket science to atleast know that having a farm is not cheap. A simple life does not necessarily equate to being poor.
In Germany, Internships must be paid by law, however Internships that are Part of studying don't have to be paid, meaning you're essentially forced to Work for free for half a year. I'm seeing the "Tradwifes" and whatnot very critical, because let's be honest: having No Money is No Fun at all.
Yes, however the law is only about a decade old (as is the minimum wage, by the way). Before that there were plenty of internships lasting 3 to 6 months that were unpaid. Even with the requirement of a university degree in certain fields. Best known industries that relied on that were media and culture, but they weren't the only ones.
Except they do have money. Nara Smith literally did a photochromic while pregnant. Where is this ignorance coming from that she doesn't have her own money?
@@cassiopaia3153 How do you know that "many of the people watching her video" are "being lead to believe" that this is the "ideal lifestyle"? There's little to no evidence that she's "leading people to believe that this is the ideal lifestyle". A lot of these complaints are ASSUMPTIONS based on your own biases.
@@Shockguey Well, the whole Video ist about "people being lead to believe that this is the ideal Lifestyle". Also I get the Feeling that you were lead to think so.
can't believe i was thinking about the same thing!!!! its really eye opening to rethink how and why I judged myself for not cooking myself a healthy meal, follow a proper exercise and diet routine, help my mom in the morning to cook and expect myself to ace my 12 hr college days when I am already struggling to keep up just with the latter !!! I guess these aesthetic cooking videos warped the reality of my own and exponentially skyrocketed expectations of myself!! Not saying work/life balance cannot be achieved, but throwing realistic/incremental goals for yourself out the window was just as delirious. I love Zoe that you pointed out that its us viewer's responsibility to get influenced by such concepts but at the end of the day, the algorithm has a strong potential to influence us without knowing it!!! I guess the only option is to develop critical thinking to all of it.
Its really hard to adult. Few tips I learnt cooking for myself. Time is your biggest resource when cooking. Like you I struggle as a dude to cook,clean and excercise while studying as well which is on top of part time work. Like I never feel I have enough time and if I do have time I spend it just de-stressing(doom scrolling tiktok/youtube). I find that food Influencers teach you how to make food as a hobby but how to make the food while going through daily life. So here are the tips I learnt. 1. Fridge and microwave are the best devices you can have. Never make more than 3 takeout boxes worth of 1 dish, this helps with variety so you dont get tried of the same meal. Its faster to make 3 meals all at once instead of 3 meals individually. 2. Cook multiple dishes at the same time and refrigerate. When you cook multiple dishes simultaneously (helps if protein is similar e,g (chicken adobo, butter chicken , chicken roast)) it is faster. You save time with veggie/meat prep,simulateanous cooking and cleaning up. You spend longer in the kitchen but it saves you loads of time and if you want to give food . 3. Often times the carbohydrate doesnt need to be refrigerated such as pasta or rice or steamed potatos, these can be cooked without much attention, just set it up with a timer and comback when read. Rice is S-tier, as you can get fresh rice with like 2 minutes of effort with a rice cooker. I hope this helps. I havent got this whole adulting thing figured out as well.
Good on you! Critical thinking and lots of compassion and curiosity are a great triad of tools! And. . . can be somewhat elusive if we spend too much time in the other "C" word - comparing ourselves negatively to what and who we see online.
Being a trad wife would drive me insane. I would need to have an income I can call my own, at least working past time doing what i love, if my husband was well off.
Although some men can be that way. You have to find the right one for what you want. Besides being a house wife or stay at home mom is usually about fulfilling a part of you. Wanting to grow a family with someone you love and raising children is very fulfilling to some women including myself.
@@honeyedpeaches @honeyedpeaches It is dangerous, though. Some men act like good men until you get pregnant or until you have dated for multiple months. If they turn out to be abusive after you've already got married or pregnant, what then? You are a house wife and you most likely won't have an easy escape or money. There is so much more to life than staying at home and being a housewife. These women could pursue their dreams.
@@brownie4493true it is dangerous but really being a relationship at all can be dangerous. Men can be dangerous. But if we are too scared to give someone a chance who could make our lives special and enjoyable then we will miss out. Your statement is COMPLETELY valid. I’m just saying If you want something you can find the right man and they can give it to you. A woman’s dreams come in many different things. Like art,music,law,etc. being a house wife or a stay at home mom is the same dream.🤍
yet tell the people who classifying her as a trad wife. she is not even a TRADITIONAL WIFE DUDE??? She has a career and why do you think she is a model and a social media influencer. why are people so obsessed with humbling her and telling her that she is trying to recruit people into her MORMON CHURCH 😬🤨
Not forgetting that these 'Trad wifes' of tiktok (social media in general) are monetizing the millions and millions of views they have on their videos, so in one way or another, they are working and do have a career.
I really liked this video, and I agree that working under someone else isn’t inferior, but you have to acknowledge the main reason easy money or working as your own boss is so ideal/romanticized is because normal 9-5 managers and bosses are notorious for screwing over their workers. We are tired of working and wasting so many hours of our lives to not even be able to buy groceries or afford a studio apartment.
This same scenario is a reality for many trad-wives. Their husbands put up a fuss anytime they ask for money. Even if it’s for something they benefit from like groceries or even stuff their kids need. Then all of a sudden the wife is the husband’s personal sw and he won’t give her the full amount or any money until she pleases him. Lots of trad-wives also say that they feel demeaned whenever they ask for money form their husbands, so the grass isn’t always greener, but I’d dare say that it isn’t greener at all.
Having a farm ≠ poverty. Thus having a farm ≠ poverty larping. Idk those influencers but that seems like it could be a very beneficial and educational experience for their children and a good environment. The biggest concern about rich people in agriculture is how they treat the laborers. But if they are "doing everything even though they don't have to" then there wouldn't be laborers to mistreat.. not gonna make a habit of defending the upper/ruling class but i think learning and doing these kinds of skills is a great way to raise their kids, and being outdoors is great for kids too. I would want every kid to have these opportunities is all.
The thing is I think I would actually love to be a trad wife, but I swore to myself that I would never be financially dependent on someone else, so I guess I just gotta win in the lotto or something😭
Girl please don't, it's lot hardwork than backing bread and looking preety, even if you become a tradwive I hope you will be better than the shitty once talking bad about others.
Tradwife doesn't necessarily mean total financial dependence. I know a lot of tradwives and they often work part time/from home. Perhaps not the traddest of the trad wives, but it's a step closer. The ones who I know that had trouble were the ones with no backup plan. Get a degree/certificate and keep it current. It was the unprepared ones that were left in trouble when husband ditched or died. The prepared ones ate ramen for a bit, but ultimately did fine for themselves and their children.
@@aliengoboom-t9k the only thing I hate about the content creators tradwives is that, they're selling this dream to many people, thats not reality, also they make money from social media yet they saying they don't work 😂. And lastly the one's who says women's should not have rights, yet use all the rights,
If you're a tradwife by choice and not dependent on your husband good for you. But one factor I haven't seen people talk about is raising children on your own, please make sure the father is an actual parent to them, if you have kids. An emotionally absent parent damages a child's psychology badly, many times for life.
I guess we are in a "cinderella era" since both being rich and poor is so romanticized today? I dunno, sounds correct- it's unfortunate on both ends really no one can just live :/ all I can is nothing profound but it is true: it sucks to be alive and everyone hold on tight
I love that my husband is fine with me staying at home while he works. I am getting my bachelor's, and once I graduate, I plan to work from home. He's totally fine with that ❤ Plus, I love looking nice for him when he comes home, and I love making him food that he can't get enough of. We want to be happy so when we have kids, they are happy too... family first always ❤️
Kinda wild how some people have to make everything about themselves. "This person's life is unrealistic and therefore it makes me angry that this content exists". Ok... it's content. Move on, they're not making it for you if you don't like it. I never want to be a trad wife but then her content isn't for me and that's ok! Yes i wish i were as comfortable as her, but that's a me problem not her (tldr: i agree with Zoe's take on that subject)
Their content is as toxic af, which create unrealistic toxic expectations in young minds about relationships, which can ruin the parties involved in it.
I don't think these people are pretending to be poor. Why does being wealthy mean having a glitzy, glamorous life? What if these people just choose to live modestly instead of living outside their means to put on a show for us? Honestly, If I were a millionaire, I wouldn't spend my wealth on Hermes bags and Lamborghinis to impress others. I'd drive a normal car, make my meals from scratch, and continue to build my wealth. People like Nara Smith and Ballerina Farm are smart. Just because you have the money, doesn't mean you need to indulge in luxury.
I couldn't be anything othet than sad being a housewife and habving children but its ok if other people feel happy doing it as long as its 100%genuine and not from socisl pressure or feeling having to conform to dated strict ideas of being a woman. Some men even become househusbands while many other men aren't and some of them also dont want children. All choices are equally worthy of respect as long people dont try to pressure them to do it or pressure them not to do whatever they like.
being a real feminist is respecting the women that WANT to be a trad wife. The problem is in the cultures where they dont even have the choice to either work or be a trad wife. and 10:08 is what is really giving looking from the outside, is giving people are jealous and feel bad about their own shitty life so they start projecting on influencers who just have a more privileged life. if you really want that life get out there and fight for it.
Reading these comments I’m realising that people clicked on this video, but they didn’t watch it ! Zoe talks about a very specific scope of topics but some of this discussion demonstrates that it went over your heads.
last part is so well said!! working for someone else gives you "assets and values" that can allow you to work for yourself one day (if that is your desire). i got a minimum wage job at 15, and honestly without it i wouldn't have even had the money to be able to afford a laptop, ipad, iphone, editing software, external hardrives, storage, quality microphones, ring lights, tripods, subscriptions, and so many other things that have allowed me to begin my content creation journey!
1:10 what..where does it ever insinuate or imply "poverty" life???? theyre able to do this b/c they have money and their own business and choose to not live in the city??? @ballerinafarm literally is living the countryside life with modern twists. what makes it look like they're trying to be "something they're not"??? you trippin.
coming from India where the femnine 'Tradwife" is not even an aesthetic but rather the lifestyle of many women , a trend like this in a majority opinion should have made a positive effect on women who chose to do it not romanticize the dogma of not being able to be independent on themself
Most of these women are making their own money (at least from their social media, if not other side hustles) and/or have family money to fall back on. It's become a privilege to have time to do housekeeping and domestic labor.
It’s always been a privilege to just stay home and focus solely on domestic duties. Poor women have always had to work and take care of the house, kids, and husband. Even in the movie “Crazy Rich Asians” the rich mom said that she realized that she was privileged to just be able to focus on Nick and her marriage because most other people had to work.
We should let women be whatever they want to be. If they want to be tradwives them let them be. Not everyone is going to have the same mindset as you,not everyone will want to live their life like yours....
This honestly bugs me so much because I live and work on a farm, and it's not for fun, it's how my family pays the bills. It's a lot of manual labor, and most of the of the time the jobs you do on the farm leaves you tired, dirty, and sore. The life those people depict is extremely unrealistic.
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 A solution to what? My family owned a farm/agricultural business. It's not a stable business to be in in the netherlands where we live. It's also really hard on the body and can cause chronic conditions later on in your 40s and 50s. If you have cows or other livestock you have no days off. Getting up so early and living in a very rural area can isolate you socially and make it harder to socialize unless you are good friends with other farmers who live close to you. For more financial stability, healthier work life balance and better physical health I would suggest a less physical job in another sector. You can still grow some food for personal consumption and even have some chickens but at least your livelihood doesn't depend on it.
@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 so why not create these opportunities for yourself? I don't understand why you are blaming trad wives and their lifestyle for the way you live your life or for how brutal your work is. It's like saying female doctors shouldn't wear pretty clothes to work because they depict the job to be sunshine and roses and yet the you never hold the same sentiment for men. I'm convinced a lot of y'all love to see women struggle when they do traditional roles
trad wife life is actually perfect for me as an introvert with social anxiety, so it's heaven for me. Thanks to my husband who understands how stressful labor is for me and provides for me so that I can chill at home. Probably it's not for everyone but i'm definitely not a career girly and i haaateeee climbing the corporate ladder, never again.
The danger with these i think is that what happens if the marriage doenst work out. Unless you are independently wealthy or have a good safety net the years you spend married can make you unemployable or at least have less skills that can directly transfer to a job.
@@Airahar i agree but thats up to them, who are we to make plans for her if it doesnt work out? We dont know their other options, relationship, and wealth.
Girl i absolutely love your videos sooooo much i am so glad i found your channel its really hard to find channels that provide positive content (not syaing they dont exist but are really hard to find) especially when you are a student and dont need drama but just some genuine knowledge about the world every now and then. Thank you for making your channel and content ❤❤
@@n0426 these tradhoes literally work as content creators while lying that they don't work. Thats why they face criticism and hate. No one is envious of that shit 💩💩💩
"feminism" is a not a respect for all "choices". feminism analyses and critiques the illusion of "choice" and does not support choices that is ultimately bad for women as a social group.
Exactly! We can't complain and say it's a man's world and also say "oh if you want to be tradicional it's your choise girly". Men would always be our bosses if all women are in their houses making sandwiches
I do agree that their content is mostly just aesthetic and sharing their blessings and amazing habilities, but it is still consumed by younger audiences.:The background of these trends is ''if you liked what you saw and want to do it yourself: get someone with money so you can live this life, and do it while you are still young because then you are less valuable'. That is how you end up in the female counterpart of the AlpaMales, the Femeninity Academies. How to be more worthy and how to choose a high value man (and sorry if you are ugly or live in a poor country or are older than 23). The problem again is not with what a few women choose to do with their lives, the problem is what it causes in many more viewers
TRAD WIFE TREND = SCAM All these influencer trad wives are nothing but a bunch of liars and deceivers, while they DO have a job which is creating content as influencers and making money for themselves to be financially independent, they encourage other women to fully submit to their husbands and become fully dependent on their husbands’ incomes. So sad! I feel sorry for all women who would fall for these lies and would risk their own future.
I try to make everything from scratch because everything that the grocery store is full of chemicals and incredibly processed. I know a lot of these women are trying to feed their families well.
Nara smith isn't even atrad wife, she works as well as take care of her family by cooking because she likes it! There are also many videos of lucky cooking for her. Plus simply cooking things from scratch isn't a word trad wife thing, she's just used to that as someone who grew up German coming with her family. Americans are just used to buying premade food so she seems like an anomaly. Plus being a feminist is about fighting for the choice to do what you want and even if she was at rad wife that's okay!
Exactly. I'm from Austria and also make so much from scratch. It's how we are wired. Plus eating out, the way we could afford, just never hits the spot.
Thank you so much for the last minutes of this video, I work so hard in the job of my childhood's dreams but sometimes it is so overwhelming amd stressful... I'm struggling between financial, mental and happiness stability, and the last few minutes were just what I needed to hear. Thank you very much
Girl I like your vids! (It's refreshing to go about it without a political lens). Hands down, this was the best video I've seen in a while! You make great content! Honestly, so well said and put together, thanks for this vid! Keep being awesome!
Yeah, like, what do people expect rich people to do all day??? Sit around and taunt their money on homeless people? Seriously, if this a man talking about his stay at home life, then nobody would care. But Heaven Forbid a woman actually has free will to decide for herself...
I personally think, that my husband should be providing for me and not dependent on my money as a house income, no matter how muvh I earn, i want to earn, but I need that financial freedom that I can leave the job the second I want.
I don't mind being a housewife with a nice guy at all. If he respects me, cares about me, and does not control and manipulate me with the help of finances, everything is fine. There are enough happy couples in these relationships, provided that they did not choose such a relationship model for profit.
The fact that you earn money ≠ decide where I go, what I wear, the ban on hobbies. It's not about love. It's the same as if I cooked dinner and immediately demanded $100 for it. Relationships should be healthy and loving.
hey oh myyy goshhh zoey i have loved your videos forever I know its not related to this video but i had been relasping lately with old ed habits and watching your videos have brought me comfort to eat and workout without the fear of food you've come so far and i hope i can to lots love honey
it’s funny how people assume Nara Smith is a trad wife, when her husband, Lucky actually is cooking, cleaning, and raising her children as a father. she is not classified as a traditional wife, she is just a super model, her husband is not a provider or breadwinner and he is just like her they need to stop calling her a traditional wife!! when she never stated herself as one!!! she IS NOT EVEN A TRAD WIFE. People are just so upset, mad, and angry. Meaning that she is an influencer and fashion model. like they can leave Nara and Lucky alone. They aren’t even trying to bother anyone or benefit as being controversial. They are just living their lives and are just human beings like the rest of us 💔
@@chroma._.5986 so steve jobs who said he barely slept or had social life to reach what he did eventually doesn't deserve his fortune now ?doctors who spend there whole life sacrificing shit for studying to be what they are aren't deserving also ?
@@chroma._.5986sure, there are a lot of nepo babies and families out there, but there’s no shot that you think that not a single rich person worked for it 😭 then there’s be no rich people
I'm always shocked by these trends! Let me give you a sneak peek into the Arab world and what rich countries call "the third world." (I live in Tunisia, so I'm speaking from experience.) Starting with the feminist movement, where they want women to work just like men, here, women have been working for centuries, even more than men. Women have always been working, even if they come from rich families, and we've been maintaining traditional households. If children don't work, chores around the house are considered work until they reach the proper age. For example, I worked most summers because my dad wanted me to learn how to be financially stable and independent, yet one of my life goals is to get married and have a family of my own. As for the "poor," they're obliged to start working at a young age, unfortunately, but this doesn't stop us from getting an education and graduating from the best universities. People who own their own land, plant their own food, and raise animals are considered rich, not a "poor aesthetic." Even though it's one of the hardest things to pursue in life, we still take care of our lands and raise our children to take care of them after us. Also, we're well known for making our own olive oil! My aunt owns olive trees, and every year our whole family goes to pick olives and then takes them to the olive press to make our own olive oil. We do this yearly, so throughout the year, we always have many buckets that we sell and use. We also make our own bread every week-many women make it every day. If you search for types of bread we have, you'll be surprised to know that every country has its own traditional bread-not just countries, but every town and city. Even couscous, which is a traditional meal in Tunisia and Morocco, we literally make it from scratch every year and stock it. Another example is chilies, peppers, our Harissa, rose water, and orange blossom water. (My father was literally picking orange blossoms from our tree just yesterday.) These things are typical to make in every Tunisian home, and if a family wasn't able to do so, they'd buy them from their neighbors. I swear these are just a few examples, and still, the women in our family are working. I'm always shocked by these trends! It's as if they're living in a parallel world where they just discovered how to clean their asses with water instead of wiping, lol.
I'm Algerian we live the exact same life,it is normal for us as north African to make bread everyday or make olive oil from scratch i don't understand stand how they find this as replicating a poor lifestyle
@@Emane2002h They’re replicating American 1950’s living. There’s nothing poor about this lifestyle it’s just an aesthetic. If they really want to feel poor they should try replicating 1930’s American living.
Absolutely right, women working is nothing new , also all the traditional women work hard, not like these new tradwives just looking pretty and bakeing bread 😂😂😂
Ugh if i was a rich trophy wife who never worked I'd get so freaking creative - like run a cat rescue that was also a community art studio, and in my free time I'd give apprenticeships/scholarships to the local university kids so thay they are forced to help me out with my garden 😂 BUT NO these poor girls keep making bread
That all takes money though. And the husbands of these trad wives control the finances (most of the time). These dudes are fine with the women cooking for them because they benefit from it but most likely wouldn’t want to invest a ton of money into a hobby that could or could not make them money in return.
@@rumaashraf8649 We’re not judging these women. We’re sharing the reality that our grandmothers and mothers went through. Regardless, none of this content is real. This is just a source of income for these tradwives because if they really were tradwives, they wouldn’t be on the internet.
You sitting there in a nice blouse looking pretty talking about rich privilege and poor life, hearing you speak in that soft tone, kinda went with the video 😂
I want to b3 a housewife. But that's only for the development of my children. I know what it's like to grow up with parents not being there, and i dont want that for my kids. However, i do want flexible work, too, so i can support my family financially, even if it's a little.
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Thoughts on the trad wife trend & the rich’s obsession with being "poor"?
I'm always shocked by these trends! Let me give you a sneak peek into the Arab world and what rich countries call "the third world." (I live in Tunisia, so I'm speaking from experience.) Starting with the feminist movement, where they want women to work just like men, here, women have been working for centuries, even more than men. Women have always been working, even if they come from rich families, and we've been maintaining traditional households. If children don't work, chores around the house are considered work until they reach the proper age. For example, I worked most summers because my dad wanted me to learn how to be financially stable and independent, yet one of my life goals is to get married and have a family of my own. As for the "poor," they're obliged to start working at a young age, unfortunately, but this doesn't stop us from getting an education and graduating from the best universities.
People who own their own land, plant their own food, and raise animals are considered rich, not a "poor aesthetic." Even though it's one of the hardest things to pursue in life, we still take care of our lands and raise our children to take care of them after us. Also, we're well known for making our own olive oil! My aunt owns olive trees, and every year our whole family goes to pick olives and then takes them to the olive press to make our own olive oil. We do this yearly, so throughout the year, we always have many buckets that we sell and use. We also make our own bread every week-many women make it every day. If you search for types of bread we have, you'll be surprised to know that every country has its own traditional bread-not just countries, but every town and city.
Even couscous, which is a traditional meal in Tunisia and Morocco, we literally make it from scratch every year and stock it. Another example is chilies, peppers, our Harissa, rose water, and orange blossom water. (My father was literally picking orange blossoms from our tree just yesterday.) These things are typical to make in every Tunisian home, and if a family wasn't able to do so, they'd buy them from their neighbors. I swear these are just a few examples, and still, the women in our family are working. I'm always shocked by these trends! It's as if they're living in a parallel world where they just discovered how to clean their asses with water instead of wiping, lol.
I honestly think trad wifery is a thinly veiled kink and it's all a niche part of BDSM. I truly believe this.
The traditional wife culture is problematic because it reinforces outdated gender roles, restricts women's autonomy and potential, and undermines the principles of equality and individual freedom. Even if a husband can provide materially, it doesn't justify perpetuating harmful societal norms that limit women's choices and opportunities.
Even if a wife romanticizes traditional roles on her own, it doesn't change the underlying issues. Romanticizing traditional roles can still perpetuate harmful gender norms and restrict personal freedom and fulfillment. It's important to critically examine societal expectations and strive for relationships based on equality, mutual respect, and individual agency.
The obsession with romanticizing poverty or traditional culture among the rich can be damaging. It glamorizes hardship and the real struggles faced by those in poverty, while reducing women to status symbols or objects of desire, perpetuating inequality and harmful stereotypes. This fixation on superficial qualities and traditional roles often leads to a lack of personal fulfillment and missed opportunities for genuine connection, hiding pursuit of meaningful relationships based on equality, respect, and authenticity.
At the same time I don't think we have no right to judge them it's their choice after all.
I don't think these people are pretending to be poor. Why does being wealthy mean having a glitzy, glamorous life? What if these people just choose to live modestly instead of living outside their means to put on a show for us? Honestly, If I were a millionaire, I wouldn't spend my wealth on Hermes bags and Lamborghinis to impress others. I'd drive a normal car, make my meals from scratch, and continue to build my wealth. People like Nara Smith and Ballerina Farm are smart. Just because you have the money, doesn't mean you need to indulge in luxury.
@@U_quintessential.Kit's not outdated just because you don't like it. 😂 Majority of people on this planet live this way. What autonomy and potential exactly? People like you are so disgustingly misogynistic all while pretending to be the opposite. If you tell a woman who's a stay at home mother that she is less than because she's not chasing a girlboss life, you're the problem.
I have so much individual freedom and can live my best life, I'm also his equal in my worth but I don't WANT to be equal as in his societal role. I'm not a man and I don't want to be expected to fulfill the roles men fulfill. Also, idk why you people always think women never had anything in their backpackets for worst case scenarios, trad wives always knew how to bake, cook, tailor, sew, farm, etc. They could always work if they had to because their husband passed or got ill or whatever. It's not like they just sit at home and watch TV. How come yall always preach about romanticizing your life but when trad women find joy in it you attack them? Absolutely vile.
I'm obsessed by the video at 18 seconds, in which the girl harvests strawberries as if they were potatoes growing directly in the ground. wtf
omg i'm so glad someone said it lmaooo
the og vid is actually supposed to be a parody of how trad wives are lol 😭
As some who has strawberry plants, I had to play it back and I cackled. I think it's a parody account.
I laughed so loudly at that clip that I woke my husband up. 😂 10/10 comedy. Top-notch B roll.
I started laughing so hard! And even if it is just a parody, I honestly wouldn't put it past some of the tradwife accounts out there to actually try something like that
I am from India where this 'tradwife' or housewife culture is normalized and my experienced tradwife mom told me is to never depend on anyone whether financially or emotionally.
Same girl same.
Same here
Real! 😌
Same i am from Pakistan and it is a norm here but But everything has two sides two mich of dependency on someone is never good ! We should always have the option of choosing somethin for our selves
@@zuhasajid900lol men aren't told to be dependent
This trend reminds me of this beautiful woman who cooks from scratch, BUT she feeds a whole village of less fortunate people.
Yes, and the most important thing to note is her emphasis on the wastefulness of specifically American, priviliedged content creators. Without that part, it would likely be received as charity for clout.
Oh yes, surthicooks.
Yeah shes awsome
@@don_ducko You dont understand how this works. The trad wife is the dependent. The system is set up so that the dependent (typically the woman) is receiving. Even in situations where the woman has a job.
If he cheats, she gets half. If she cheats, she still gets half. And that's if the woman isn't greedy.
I dont know where you got your stories from, but speaking statistically, men have this issue more than you. So if anything you should be feeling sorry for the man.
Plus, my aunt is a divorce attorney. So I know I'm right and you're not
@@tonyonaperky2128 umm with all due respect sir, what on Earth are you talking about? Nowhere in this entire thread is a man, a trad wife, or misandry in general mentioned. You seem lost and sound like an alternate universe Miss Trunchbull. Good day.
Having a rich husband would be great but there is power when you have your own money even if its a little bit.
Most men aren't rich though
Nah girl I don't wanna be married to this rich husband I wanna be that rich husband
@@UnknownXlll just become rich yourself then marry
@@tonyonaperky2128 and that what I will do lol
@@tonyonaperky2128 i will do it then I will be with my man because I want him not for his money
I wouldn't want to be a house wife. Too much room for financial abuse and coercive control. If it works well, good for them, but the moment it doesn't they don't really have an exit strategy.
This👆🙌
In these marriages there're rapes
@@Mishlxo who wished bad? I surely didn't
True but at the same time have a bit of faith in your partner, cause whoever you choose should be the right one for you but also be cautious, its weird how being vulnerable in this day and age is seen as something sort of weak but at the same time the whole point of relationships is that the other person is someone who you trust and expect to be able to be vulnerable with, so idk man
Exaclty! And no one's immune to illness or even death. So even if these husbands won't cheat on them or leave them, they could still end up alone without anything. Education and a backup plan is SO important. Let's not be silly and naive girlies.
Having a farm doesn't equate to poverty. Every farmer i know is extremely wealthy
True! It actually costs quite a lot of money to own a farm, and selling your own product (meat, wool, etc) usually earns you more than an hourly salary.
Literally… I thought I’m watching about trad wives but ended up watching about “rich people romanticising poverty”? This girly is feeling herself too much and has become tone deaf. Cultural depth lacking, no attention to the nutritional aspect of homecooking. Apparently poor bake bread from scratch rather than pay $1? Got it 👍 pointless vid..
My godparents had own a farm for ever since I could remember, it's true, they live on the country side, and they do all the work on the farm, just the two of them. By now, they are both in their 70s and still do farm work, and let me tell you, besides the love they have for the liftestyle, the do produce A LOT of money.
I don't know, my mom has a farm and we are just middle class family
Exactly, farms take upkeep, which costs quite a bit. Depending on the size of the farm, it could be extremely costly. Especially if there are animals.
Do whatever you want to do guys, just secure your financial future. Get an education and always further your skills.
All these influencer trad wives are nothing but a bunch of liars and deceivers, while they DO have a job which is creating content as influencers and making money for themselves to be financially independent, they encourage other women to fully submit to their husbands and become fully dependent on their husbands’ incomes. So sad! I feel sorry for all women who would fall for these lies and would risk their own future.
Are you married?
@@SupremeGreatGrandmaster yes. Married, and have a job. Also double graduation and double masters degree. One masters done after wedding. People who are financially aware will always further their skills.
It's wise to do this first anyway so you'll have the money to afford a family later.
@@Anarchy_Angel94 yes that's the best part. Having an education is the first step towards a secure future. In our country there is a saying like: who is the one who will always stay with you no matter the time, place and age? That is knowledge. Everyone can leave you but not the knowledge you have learnt.
People need to be realistic. Of course you can do whatever you want to but don't be delusional. Your husband could cheat and leave you for someone younger like all these poor women have been telling us on social media lately, they've been left with nothing except their own kids. And even if your husband might be the best one in the world and always loves you - what if he becomes ill or even dies? Could happen to anyone. That's why you need to have a back up plan, education and be prepared to be able living on your own if you'd have to. Women fought for these things for a reason.
80% of divorce are initiated by women. This fantasy world where men keep on leaving women is not real. If it happened to you, you represent less than 21% of divorce stats. Also wealthy women who are trad wives (I say wealthy and not just rich) usually got pretty good prenups and even pretty big life insurance on the husband in case he dies
@@Law_Abiding_Citizen359 women initiating divorces doesn't mean they're the ones giving up on the actual relationship. It tells you nothing about who did what, the only thing it tells you is that women moreso than men are willing to go through with filing the paperwork. For example your husband could go off and cheat, even go so far as to go live with his gf and you're still married on paper. If he thinks filing the paperwork is too much hassle, you're the one that has to do it if you want a divorce. I've heard countless stories of unhappily married couples where no matter how miserable they are, the husband is dragging his feet on the actual divorce paperwork so the woman has to file for it.
If the marriage is already dead then simply not filing for divorce won't save it.
If you want to prove that it's predominantly women giving up on relationships/marriages, then you're going to have to look at a different statistic and dig into the reasons why.
People remaining married also doesn't mean it's a successful marriage, even though lots of people use "successful mariage" to mean a couple that remained married. They could be miserable together but not go through with divorce for several reasons. Often those reasons are financial.
What makes you think Nara doesn't have a backup plan,? She is a model and I'm pretty sure she makes money from her content. How do you know she doesn't have other business? Has she explicitly said you didn't need to make your own money or do you just assume that because she bakes bread from scratch then she must not be making any money? I want to know how you got to that conclusion
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 I wasn't talking about her? I'm aware of that, that's why I don't think there's any problematic about what Nara is doing. She has her job and own money. With my comment I meant all of the young women who aren't in a position like her yet still want to blindly become an actual tradwife. Like many of the women who unfortunately came out on social media talking about how they became a tradwife with NO job, no money, no back up plan, no education. I have no problem with Nara, I have problems with other tradwives on TikTok influencing young women into something potentially dangerous without telling them the risks.
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 It's not just about influencers, but also about ordinary people. Let's admit that being/becoming an influencer is not as easy as it seems, of course it is easier to be one if you yourself are from a rich family or already have a bag of money like Nara (what does she have to do with it, speaking for everyone?). Now, if an ordinary housewife’s husband got sick/died (God forbid)/cheated and left, and they have 5 children and she has never worked and she is young. A husband may “go for milk” and not help HIS OWN children (and this often happens in all countries 🤷🏽♀️). And no matter how educated a woman is and has money, it will be very difficult for her to raise children, and if you imagine that some girls do not have education and work experience... this is a complete fuck-up, because you need a job to feed your family, and if she has no work experience, it is not a fact that she will be hired, even despite her diplomas and good grades. Therefore, it is better not to romanticize this crap, especially to young people 🙆🏽♀️
There's a difference between a homemaker and a trad wife.
These tradwives want to 1950 wife without getting their ass beaten everyday 😂😂
Without a doubt. I'm a stay-at-home mom, but wouldn't tell my girls that's the only option for their futures. It could be. Doesn't have to be.
@@hahalove47 I love that you'e making it work for you and your family! Yes, having options is the key to all of this.
@@hahalove47exactly!
@@hahalove47 but u aren't
i dont really see how being a trad wife is...pretending to be poor? countries like the united states, the uk and canada made people wage slave and warped their sense of normality. in Guatemala they make tortilla from scratch, in china they make dumpling from scratch, germans make their own bread, Italians make their pasta from scratch and also their cheese. lot of other cultures make their food from scratch without being poor. we got cultures making humus and yogurt from scratch and i could go on and on.
this is not normal to work like a slave and have no time to do anything afterward, this is not normal to work 2 jobs and barely be able to survive. And most importantly , this is not normal to be so detached from the food that you eat.
instead of criticizing those women, the masses should focus on doing something about this system that have made them think that the bare minimum (to survive) is something normal.
I couldn't agree more. I work from home but make alot of our food at home fresh just because it's easier and better for us than spending 500 dollars at the grocery store. Bread is super easy and cheap to make at home.
Isnt the criticism part of doing something? It's highlighting the symptoms of a capitalist society,
I agree!
The video is talking about how being a trad wife is being romaticised without realising the actual struggle that comes with it for women and for the whole family.
People who are making viral videos are not out there making things to save a dime. They are wealthy stay at home wives who are making money by videos and getting commission on products.
When the topic started treading that when i realized that those countries consider making stuff from scratch for the rich,am African (Ethiopian/Kenyan to be specific)and making food from scratch would be considered for the poor coz it means you are either a farmer, working at a farm or you do not have workers coz you have to get the ingredients for yourself and process it by yourself and make food from scratch.Rich people mostly tend to be the one to afford processed food,helpers or even fastfood
Am shocked to see the difference that for us trad wife maybe considered for the poor and career wives for us is for the rich
Being a feminist means having the power to choose your occupation and lifestyle as a woman. If these women find empowerment and confidence in being a homemaker, rather than going out to find work, more power to them.
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exactly, i find it rlly sad that some ppl are hating on these women. If these people find comfort and love in this, who are we to stop them?
My only issue with this is how these younger trad wives sugarcoat everything when women who have been trad wives for 20+ years will say to have something of your own because they know the horrors of being completely dependent on another human
Exactly.
Also people are forgetting how hard it is to find a job.
@@Vor567tez This is not a valid excuse for being a tradwife. You will have to get a job if your husband passes, leaves you, or becomes disabled. It is much harder to get a job when you’ve been out of the work force for 15+ years. Just something to think about.
Help I’m 20 seconds in and a trad wife is pulling strawberries FROM THE GROUND 😂😂😂 so unhinged
Just remember ladies, keep a financial safely net. Your children and yourself being housed and fed are fully dependent on your husband finding you attractive, pleasant, and wanting to be with you if you go down this rabbit hole. There are way too many horror stories about women being left homeless, being abused, having to turn to sex work to feed their children after their man leaves, etc.
Women are lazy so they will take their chances and roll the dice despite the horror stories
Man here, I wish I could do something like that lol
I can understand women who'd want to do it too, especially in this job market
The way the divorce system favors women, women being left without anything is extremely rare
You sound like you still live in the 50s. Women are rarely left alone unless they belong to 3rd world countries. Also, one should marry a person only after thoroughly knowing them. Love exists and if your partner truly loves you he/she will never leave you.
Also I don't think western women are house wives only. And if they choose to only be a house wife then it's honestly their fault.
@@ifykyk679 They don't know that women get 50% or greater even if the woman cheats
Coming from a country where tradwife is not an aesthetic but reality for so many women, let me tell you something my mother, and aunts, all tradwives told me : don't. Don't ever depend on somebody else in this manner.
So all your relatives have Instagrams with followers?
Or were they just homemakers?
Because WTF is a tradwife at this point?
This is starting to sound how like Conservatives use "woke".
Loved the "You can work under people but not be inferior" comment❤
I'm a housewife because childcare is more expensive than me staying home. Mix that with mental illness and an introverted nature, and I am more than happy to stay out of the hustle grind
I'm disabled and a housewife. I love it b/c I don't have to be belittled by some boss or customers or coworkers.
I make my own schedule and am the CEO of my own little world ❤
@@DrinkYourNailPolish So long as your husband or kids don’t start belittling you, I don’t think you have a bad gig.
ur under a lot of comments whats ur problem with trad wives? cuz this lady said she was happy and you immediately jump to the negative and do so on every single comment urging under
Nothing wrong with being houswife, but these tradwives talk trash about working women, and tell others to give up jobs and career while they make money from social media, that's why I hate them, also they talk bad about feminists whiles using all the rights feminists gave them.
She said she's disabled dafaq is wrong with u, if u disagree with her lifestyle, just scroll over, no need to wish bad karma on her for the crime of not living what u perceive as the ideal feminist life@@tiahnarodriguez3809
I love how you respect everyone and their choices of life. It is refreshing considering nowadays people just hate to hate no matter what you do.
I like how you treat people with dignity no matter how they live.
What I always miss with videos about tradwives is that they need to be called out on the fact that while they sell the fantasy of a obedient wife they are in reality very tough businesswomen. With the money from content creation alone they are far from being financially dependent on their husband. I’m glad that you pointed it out. They are building their own brands and image with this content bc it is very controversial and the algorithm loves it. The most comments under these vids are women preaching to not go down that road. They cleverly use ragebait combined with selling the dream of a easy life without a 9-5. they get two crowds at once and money is flowing in big time. They are very clever businesswomen that’s a fact.
True, they have their social media knowledge/business acumen & independent savings to fall back on but most 'influencers' are not financially successful. So that still isn't a good safety net for most young and impressionable women who do try to follow them
And also as the algorithm changes and people something else to get upset about, that content will stop bringing quite so many views. Unless they pivot their content or already have a good funnel set up by that point, even the best and most successful tradwife accounts won't be able to keep a steady income from it for that long
Edit: I watched the rest of the video and the case studies she used aren't even tradwives they're just straight up influencers who cook. She's also just using the tradwife angle to make us comment...
In general this video either chooses the wrong clips to make it's point or perhaps it doesn't really know what point it's trying to make.
This absolutely right they're selling a dream, while they make money from it, and lie to people on their face
@@tonyonaperky2128 nothing is wrong but these tradhoes are making money from social media. While cosplaying a tradwives.
@@keirahazlewood4223 You dont understand how this works. The trad wife is the dependent. The system is set up so that the dependent (typically the woman) is receiving. Even in situations where the woman has a job.
If he cheats, she gets half. If she cheats, she still gets half. And that's if the woman isn't greedy.
I dont know where you got your stories from, but speaking statistically, men have this issue more than you. So if anything you should be feeling sorry for the man.
Plus, my aunt is a divorce attorney. So I know I'm right, and you're not, because everything you're stating about homelessness happens to men more than women. That's why men talk about prenups. And feminists keep discouraging men from having prenups
@keirahazlewood4223 she click baits a LOT
breaking news: cooking food from scratch is normal for everyone, poor and rich. it's just that you americans are not used to it! growing up in an italian family, we would consider packaged foods for rich people lol mom was a SAHM dad worked all day everyday and now me and my sister work in healthcare but we can't wait to have our own family. we can always go back to work when and if we want.
real feminism is choosing the life YOU want and supporting women who do the same.
Its almost like Geography exists and what is possible for rural italians is impossible for urban Americans living on minimum wage. Your "affordable fresh local ingredients" are Expensive foreign imported products in the US.
@@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600That's what I wanted to say. Thank you 🤟
@@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600 You can't go to the grocery store and fry up a burger? I'm American and mom cooked from scratch every day. I cook several times a week from scratch.
@@jacktaylor1801 depends on the income level. I’m from an immigrant family who can afford the ingredients imported from my home country. The prices are just really high here. You will need to spend a dollar for what costs a few cents back home. So I sure as hell would not judge ppl who can’t afford it. It’s just mean to assume that just because you’re doing well, doesn’t mean u get to judge others who aren’t. We need more empathy these days.
Sometimes ppl cook for scratch. Sometimes ppl can’t. Sometimes ppl don’t want to and eat outside. That’s just LIFE.
We need to stop performing and stop expecting others to perform.
just live our lives.
Preach
Harvest strawberries they grow on a plant not the ground 😂
harvesting just means gathering crops. it's even not specific to plants, it's just anything that you have grown or produced
Probably parody anyway but strawberry plants tend to grow in fields, on the ground
Someone said that the page was actually satire on the trad wife thing, hence the “harvesting” strawberries from the ground 😂
If you're poor, you don't make bread from scratch. If you can't afford the bread, you sure as hell can't afford the 7 plus ingredients to make it. I realize now how many people don't know simple things like that about poor people's lives after I came to class one day and no one knew what food stamps and section 8 was or find it unbelievable that my family doesn't own a car. None of these hobbies the people in video do correlate what poor people have to do. They're just hobbies, and trying to turn it around and say they just want to pretend to be poor is ridiculous. Buying a luxury van to live in, making meals from scratch or owning a cow holds no resemblance to modern day poverty, and comparing the two and saying that poor people are becoming victims of this odd romanticism is insane. Some people are just lacking logic, not that I'm trying to attack Zoe. I know she's simply the messenger, and I'm glad she brought such a ridiculous thing to my attention.
I didn't know this,am African and for us making food from scratch majority would be considered poor,because it means you work in the farm or a farmer or you don't have helpers,coz you have to be working in farm to have the ingredients and process it by yourself.rich people are the ones who can afford to buy ready made products.I was shocked when this topic started treading,and realized mking food from scratch in the USA is considered for the rich
I agree! In the US it’s actually more expensive, both in money and labor, to make stuff from scratch or own land or animals.
bread does not require 7 ingredients to make lmao theyre not expensive either
Bread from scratch is cheaper. Only slightly but it is. Bread only requires flour yeast and salt and per oz of bread it is cheaper
Right? I watch all these inspiring channels that promote cooking with fresh ingredients, but it's way out of my budget
Wtf 0:18 made me choke, do people think strawberries grow in the ground like potatoes or what??
That's what I was thinking people are so easy to fool these days 🤣
It was sarcasm
@@Emotais Feminists just hate stay at home moms. Especially if they're religious.
That's all this is about, they've molded about them so long Family Guy did a bit where Lois called a woman out about it.
She was making fun of the people that actually act like a trad wife
I really appreciate that you worked for a few years before going to full-time content creation. There too many out of touch creators in their early twenties who've just been making video essays since high school and have nothing to add.
I see these "trad wife" / "stay at home girlfriend" as clever marketing at best or dangerous trap, at worst. Any woman who is over 30 knows that kind of relationship would be unsustainable in real life, only very young girls could fall for that crap. And there lies the danger. Look at those women who present as "trad", they are all extremely young and beautiful, not one over 30 or God forbid 40! Can you think of why? Can you actually imagine that charade lasting for 5 or 10 years? Woman having the same day over and over and over and presenting to her husband every day as a living doll with no flaws so he doesn't leave her and takes care of her? Many if not all women over 30 would tell you that's nonsense and it would never work! No matter how rich he is. She will and would get tired of that in few years, and later she could develop some health issues as people do during years of life, and not feel or look so hot, she could start resenting her husband and he could resent her for "doing nothing" and if you, God forbid, get sick so that your looks are gone, you are in deep, deep trouble. Even if your husband is really nice genuine great man, at one point you will both have to see how pointless all that presentation is.
I am just saying, all those women who promote this, are maybe 19-23 and that makes young girls think it's a fairytale. And that's where the danger is. We should be aware there are no such thing as fairytale in life. There is no such thing as perfect life, it's all unpredictable and very subjective. Not one size fits all. This "trend" could produce many many horrible marriages, and many miserable women in several years. Sure, you can't hate because it's not ok for influencer to hate, but I really think this trend is vicious and dangerous for very young women who think this is escape from real life. It's not. Be aware. The worst men love this trend, they want a woman who they can control and who can not escape them, ever. It may seem cute and macho at the beginning but after several years, not so cute at all. I don't like this one bit.
A marriage´s quality isn´t based upon the working dynamics but the respect dynamics. No amount of each person having their own job is going to make them be more in love. The opposite, as being stressed out from unfulfilling jobs that pay less in this shitty economy that is inflated by the amount of jobs is not conducive to love. While there is always a fad and bad faith actor behind every movement, you have to engage with the ideas in an intellectually honest manner rather than hypothesize the worst case scenario and say that is representative of the idea.
The divorce rates are bad regardless of whether both partners work or the roles are traditional... it´s almost as if the issues lie somewhere else.
@@zerothehero.takeasip6612 you got me wrong. This is not about being housewife or househusband. It's ok not to work and stay home. I am talking about idealized dynamics of fairytale marriage where roles are FIRMLY set for both people, and they have to play them each and every day. I might not described this well, but the point is relationship is not role playing. And it's dangerous to get married to someone who expects pretty, always happy and perfectly made up wife, who is never tired, sick or unhappy, waiting for him at home and wife who "knows her place". It has nothing to do with real traditional marriages. My grandma was traditional, she lead the whole house and worked her butt off every day, she was a total hero and bad-ass! She was housewife but far far away from these pure for esthetic and marketing role plays.
What I am also saying this model "you listen and do what I say, I make money" could attract the worst men, controllable narcissists who won't let you leave.
Again, nothing to do with real housewives or traditional wives, this is a pure "trend".
@@zerothehero.takeasip6612 Having your own income and money in your bank account that other people cannot touch means you have more options (you can leave the relationship quickly if you need to), more safety and makes it more likely you're together because you want to instead of needing to for financial reasons.
Being financially dependent on your partner is just not a good idea, regardless of how much respect there is both ways. Someone can lose respect for their partner in a second.
Divorce rates aren't a measure of how many relationships are unhappy. There are a lot of unhappily married people who stay married, and there were a lot more in the past (going by what I know about my parents generation) because of increased social stigma about divorce and less financial independence for women.
Being the stay at home wife/gf is a lot more fun if you have safety money.
There are plenty of women in their 30s and 40s living perfectly well in a traditional marriage, they’re just not the generation that’s blasting it on social media. Traditional marriage isn’t about financial control or being perfect for your husband, it’s about a man and woman coming together to form a strong team and balance out each other’s strengths and weaknesses in order to build a lasting family.
@@smartypantspod That’s what you think, but many men see tradrelationships about control and many women see trad relationships as an easy way to get out of working. Regardless of reasoning there is a reason why tradwives 30+ do not advocate for girls and women to get into this lifestyle. The tradwife to welfare pipeline is still going strong.
As for BallerinaFarm, she never said they were poor. It also doesn't take rocket science to atleast know that having a farm is not cheap. A simple life does not necessarily equate to being poor.
In Germany, Internships must be paid by law, however Internships that are Part of studying don't have to be paid, meaning you're essentially forced to Work for free for half a year. I'm seeing the "Tradwifes" and whatnot very critical, because let's be honest: having No Money is No Fun at all.
Yes, however the law is only about a decade old (as is the minimum wage, by the way). Before that there were plenty of internships lasting 3 to 6 months that were unpaid. Even with the requirement of a university degree in certain fields. Best known industries that relied on that were media and culture, but they weren't the only ones.
Except they do have money. Nara Smith literally did a photochromic while pregnant.
Where is this ignorance coming from that she doesn't have her own money?
@@Shockguey I know that she IS rich, but many of the people watching her Video and being lead to believe that this is the "ideal Lifestyle" are Not.
@@cassiopaia3153 How do you know that "many of the people watching her video" are "being lead to believe" that this is the "ideal lifestyle"?
There's little to no evidence that she's "leading people to believe that this is the ideal lifestyle". A lot of these complaints are ASSUMPTIONS based on your own biases.
@@Shockguey Well, the whole Video ist about "people being lead to believe that this is the ideal Lifestyle". Also I get the Feeling that you were lead to think so.
your voice is so calming to listen to and you always find interesting topics to talk about, thank you queen
can't believe i was thinking about the same thing!!!! its really eye opening to rethink how and why I judged myself for not cooking myself a healthy meal, follow a proper exercise and diet routine, help my mom in the morning to cook and expect myself to ace my 12 hr college days when I am already struggling to keep up just with the latter !!! I guess these aesthetic cooking videos warped the reality of my own and exponentially skyrocketed expectations of myself!! Not saying work/life balance cannot be achieved, but throwing realistic/incremental goals for yourself out the window was just as delirious. I love Zoe that you pointed out that its us viewer's responsibility to get influenced by such concepts but at the end of the day, the algorithm has a strong potential to influence us without knowing it!!! I guess the only option is to develop critical thinking to all of it.
Its really hard to adult. Few tips I learnt cooking for myself. Time is your biggest resource when cooking. Like you I struggle as a dude to cook,clean and excercise while studying as well which is on top of part time work. Like I never feel I have enough time and if I do have time I spend it just de-stressing(doom scrolling tiktok/youtube). I find that food Influencers teach you how to make food as a hobby but how to make the food while going through daily life. So here are the tips I learnt.
1. Fridge and microwave are the best devices you can have. Never make more than 3 takeout boxes worth of 1 dish, this helps with variety so you dont get tried of the same meal. Its faster to make 3 meals all at once instead of 3 meals individually.
2. Cook multiple dishes at the same time and refrigerate. When you cook multiple dishes simultaneously (helps if protein is similar e,g (chicken adobo, butter chicken , chicken roast)) it is faster. You save time with veggie/meat prep,simulateanous cooking and cleaning up. You spend longer in the kitchen but it saves you loads of time and if you want to give food .
3. Often times the carbohydrate doesnt need to be refrigerated such as pasta or rice or steamed potatos, these can be cooked without much attention, just set it up with a timer and comback when read. Rice is S-tier, as you can get fresh rice with like 2 minutes of effort with a rice cooker.
I hope this helps. I havent got this whole adulting thing figured out as well.
Good on you! Critical thinking and lots of compassion and curiosity are a great triad of tools! And. . . can be somewhat elusive if we spend too much time in the other "C" word - comparing ourselves negatively to what and who we see online.
i think most people just don't want to work a 9 to 5 job for the rest of their life
Being a trad wife would drive me insane. I would need to have an income I can call my own, at least working past time doing what i love, if my husband was well off.
That’s y it’s not for everyone same as how not everyone is ganna pick the same career due to their differences it’s a life choice
Who says these women don't have their own income?
I mean they do have a job, they are influencers.
I would never want to be to be a house wife or anything like that. Women have the potential to be so much more than a mother to a grown man.
Exactly, I don't want to mother a grown man
Also in real life, traditionalism is everything but fun. Talking about real traditionalism, not TikTok or whatever
Although some men can be that way. You have to find the right one for what you want. Besides being a house wife or stay at home mom is usually about fulfilling a part of you. Wanting to grow a family with someone you love and raising children is very fulfilling to some women including myself.
@@honeyedpeaches @honeyedpeaches It is dangerous, though. Some men act like good men until you get pregnant or until you have dated for multiple months. If they turn out to be abusive after you've already got married or pregnant, what then? You are a house wife and you most likely won't have an easy escape or money. There is so much more to life than staying at home and being a housewife. These women could pursue their dreams.
@@brownie4493true it is dangerous but really being a relationship at all can be dangerous. Men can be dangerous. But if we are too scared to give someone a chance who could make our lives special and enjoyable then we will miss out. Your statement is COMPLETELY valid. I’m just saying If you want something you can find the right man and they can give it to you. A woman’s dreams come in many different things. Like art,music,law,etc. being a house wife or a stay at home mom is the same dream.🤍
the end of the video is actually so uplifting and validating, thank u! i feel like rewatching this a lot
NARA ISN'T EVEN A TRADWIVE SHE HAS A JOB
yet tell the people who classifying her as a trad wife. she is not even a TRADITIONAL WIFE DUDE??? She has a career and why do you think she is a model and a social media influencer. why are people so obsessed with humbling her and telling her that she is trying to recruit people into her MORMON CHURCH 😬🤨
Not forgetting that these 'Trad wifes' of tiktok (social media in general) are monetizing the millions and millions of views they have on their videos, so in one way or another, they are working and do have a career.
I really liked this video, and I agree that working under someone else isn’t inferior, but you have to acknowledge the main reason easy money or working as your own boss is so ideal/romanticized is because normal 9-5 managers and bosses are notorious for screwing over their workers. We are tired of working and wasting so many hours of our lives to not even be able to buy groceries or afford a studio apartment.
This same scenario is a reality for many trad-wives. Their husbands put up a fuss anytime they ask for money. Even if it’s for something they benefit from like groceries or even stuff their kids need. Then all of a sudden the wife is the husband’s personal sw and he won’t give her the full amount or any money until she pleases him. Lots of trad-wives also say that they feel demeaned whenever they ask for money form their husbands, so the grass isn’t always greener, but I’d dare say that it isn’t greener at all.
I love how Zoe is so pragmatic, where she raises multiple points of view and asks a lot of questions
Having a farm ≠ poverty. Thus having a farm ≠ poverty larping. Idk those influencers but that seems like it could be a very beneficial and educational experience for their children and a good environment.
The biggest concern about rich people in agriculture is how they treat the laborers. But if they are "doing everything even though they don't have to" then there wouldn't be laborers to mistreat..
not gonna make a habit of defending the upper/ruling class but i think learning and doing these kinds of skills is a great way to raise their kids, and being outdoors is great for kids too. I would want every kid to have these opportunities is all.
Grew up in a farm. It’s extremely expensive to upkeep a farm, it definitely doesn’t equal poverty…but it’s absolutely awesome for kids! 👏
The thing is I think I would actually love to be a trad wife, but I swore to myself that I would never be financially dependent on someone else, so I guess I just gotta win in the lotto or something😭
Girl please don't, it's lot hardwork than backing bread and looking preety, even if you become a tradwive I hope you will be better than the shitty once talking bad about others.
Why have you decided that being a traditional wife means you have to financially depend on someone?
Tradwife doesn't necessarily mean total financial dependence. I know a lot of tradwives and they often work part time/from home. Perhaps not the traddest of the trad wives, but it's a step closer. The ones who I know that had trouble were the ones with no backup plan. Get a degree/certificate and keep it current. It was the unprepared ones that were left in trouble when husband ditched or died. The prepared ones ate ramen for a bit, but ultimately did fine for themselves and their children.
@@aliengoboom-t9k the only thing I hate about the content creators tradwives is that, they're selling this dream to many people, thats not reality, also they make money from social media yet they saying they don't work 😂. And lastly the one's who says women's should not have rights, yet use all the rights,
If you're a tradwife by choice and not dependent on your husband good for you. But one factor I haven't seen people talk about is raising children on your own, please make sure the father is an actual parent to them, if you have kids. An emotionally absent parent damages a child's psychology badly, many times for life.
I guess we are in a "cinderella era" since both being rich and poor is so romanticized today? I dunno, sounds correct- it's unfortunate on both ends really no one can just live :/ all I can is nothing profound but it is true: it sucks to be alive and everyone hold on tight
I love that my husband is fine with me staying at home while he works. I am getting my bachelor's, and once I graduate, I plan to work from home. He's totally fine with that ❤
Plus, I love looking nice for him when he comes home, and I love making him food that he can't get enough of. We want to be happy so when we have kids, they are happy too... family first always ❤️
What do you plan to receive your B.S. in?
Kinda wild how some people have to make everything about themselves. "This person's life is unrealistic and therefore it makes me angry that this content exists". Ok... it's content. Move on, they're not making it for you if you don't like it. I never want to be a trad wife but then her content isn't for me and that's ok! Yes i wish i were as comfortable as her, but that's a me problem not her (tldr: i agree with Zoe's take on that subject)
No their content can affect teenage girl that think being a tradwife is betten than work
baby aww babyyyyy
Their content is as toxic af, which create unrealistic toxic expectations in young minds about relationships, which can ruin the parties involved in it.
Then they shouldn't be on thw internet.. no one should stop making harmless content just because its going to effect one person @art-ti2hq
Finally someone gets it.
Like, let people live their lives! The world doesn't revolve around you, people
I don't think these people are pretending to be poor. Why does being wealthy mean having a glitzy, glamorous life? What if these people just choose to live modestly instead of living outside their means to put on a show for us? Honestly, If I were a millionaire, I wouldn't spend my wealth on Hermes bags and Lamborghinis to impress others. I'd drive a normal car, make my meals from scratch, and continue to build my wealth. People like Nara Smith and Ballerina Farm are smart. Just because you have the money, doesn't mean you need to indulge in luxury.
I completely agree with you!
Complete agree with this opinion, like they just don’t want that kind of luxury, it’s completely their choice
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Zoe is forever speaking factssss!!
I couldn't be anything othet than sad being a housewife and habving children but its ok if other people feel happy doing it as long as its 100%genuine and not from socisl pressure or feeling having to conform to dated strict ideas of being a woman. Some men even become househusbands while many other men aren't and some of them also dont want children. All choices are equally worthy of respect as long people dont try to pressure them to do it or pressure them not to do whatever they like.
I don’t think living on a farm and having absolute control over the origins of one’s food is pretending to be poor , per se .
being a real feminist is respecting the women that WANT to be a trad wife. The problem is in the cultures where they dont even have the choice to either work or be a trad wife. and 10:08 is what is really giving looking from the outside, is giving people are jealous and feel bad about their own shitty life so they start projecting on influencers who just have a more privileged life. if you really want that life get out there and fight for it.
Reading these comments I’m realising that people clicked on this video, but they didn’t watch it ! Zoe talks about a very specific scope of topics but some of this discussion demonstrates that it went over your heads.
Most people did listen they're just giving their opinions on the topic
last part is so well said!! working for someone else gives you "assets and values" that can allow you to work for yourself one day (if that is your desire). i got a minimum wage job at 15, and honestly without it i wouldn't have even had the money to be able to afford a laptop, ipad, iphone, editing software, external hardrives, storage, quality microphones, ring lights, tripods, subscriptions, and so many other things that have allowed me to begin my content creation journey!
Another issue that can be easily avoided in your daily life if you just don't waste time on social media and focus more on the real life.
Please tell me the strawberry reel in the beginning is satire! Strawberries don't grow like carrots. Wtf! 😅
1:10 what..where does it ever insinuate or imply "poverty" life???? theyre able to do this b/c they have money and their own business and choose to not live in the city??? @ballerinafarm literally is living the countryside life with modern twists. what makes it look like they're trying to be "something they're not"??? you trippin.
I LOVE being early to watch the queen's videos😍
Let's all agree that she's shaping the minds of many young girls the right way here.
As a girl who dreams of being a trad wife, this simply looks like heaven for me.
coming from India where the femnine 'Tradwife" is not even an aesthetic but rather the lifestyle of many women , a trend like this in a majority opinion should have made a positive effect on women who chose to do it not romanticize the dogma of not being able to be independent on themself
Most of these women are making their own money (at least from their social media, if not other side hustles) and/or have family money to fall back on. It's become a privilege to have time to do housekeeping and domestic labor.
It’s always been a privilege to just stay home and focus solely on domestic duties. Poor women have always had to work and take care of the house, kids, and husband. Even in the movie “Crazy Rich Asians” the rich mom said that she realized that she was privileged to just be able to focus on Nick and her marriage because most other people had to work.
Nara and Lucky were already rich before social media, they're both models
We should let women be whatever they want to be. If they want to be tradwives them let them be. Not everyone is going to have the same mindset as you,not everyone will want to live their life like yours....
This honestly bugs me so much because I live and work on a farm, and it's not for fun, it's how my family pays the bills. It's a lot of manual labor, and most of the of the time the jobs you do on the farm leaves you tired, dirty, and sore. The life those people depict is extremely unrealistic.
So what should be the solution since you have experienced working in a farm.
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 A solution to what? My family owned a farm/agricultural business. It's not a stable business to be in in the netherlands where we live. It's also really hard on the body and can cause chronic conditions later on in your 40s and 50s. If you have cows or other livestock you have no days off. Getting up so early and living in a very rural area can isolate you socially and make it harder to socialize unless you are good friends with other farmers who live close to you.
For more financial stability, healthier work life balance and better physical health I would suggest a less physical job in another sector. You can still grow some food for personal consumption and even have some chickens but at least your livelihood doesn't depend on it.
@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 so why not create these opportunities for yourself? I don't understand why you are blaming trad wives and their lifestyle for the way you live your life or for how brutal your work is. It's like saying female doctors shouldn't wear pretty clothes to work because they depict the job to be sunshine and roses and yet the you never hold the same sentiment for men. I'm convinced a lot of y'all love to see women struggle when they do traditional roles
Then that's a you problem not theirs
trad wife life is actually perfect for me as an introvert with social anxiety, so it's heaven for me. Thanks to my husband who understands how stressful labor is for me and provides for me so that I can chill at home. Probably it's not for everyone but i'm definitely not a career girly and i haaateeee climbing the corporate ladder, never again.
Manifesting this for myself lol 🙏
Same! I worked until I became disabled. So grateful I have a husband who loves me unconditionally and appreciates me ❤
Same and glad you're not getting any hate comments too!
The danger with these i think is that what happens if the marriage doenst work out. Unless you are independently wealthy or have a good safety net the years you spend married can make you unemployable or at least have less skills that can directly transfer to a job.
@@Airahar i agree but thats up to them, who are we to make plans for her if it doesnt work out? We dont know their other options, relationship, and wealth.
Nara was a model..both her and her husband are models..with 2 kids ..
Girl i absolutely love your videos sooooo much i am so glad i found your channel its really hard to find channels that provide positive content (not syaing they dont exist but are really hard to find) especially when you are a student and dont need drama but just some genuine knowledge about the world every now and then. Thank you for making your channel and content ❤❤
I'm so appreciative of this video. I already knew that much of social media depictions are false, but I needed to hear it said this way.
Just live and let people live. 🙄
People are always criticising and are always envious no matter what you do.
Yeah, as a man I always wished I could just do something like this, especially because the job market seems so difficult now
@@n0426 these tradhoes literally work as content creators while lying that they don't work. Thats why they face criticism and hate. No one is envious of that shit 💩💩💩
absolutely lost it when i saw those strawberrys in the ground 😭😭😭
"feminism" is a not a respect for all "choices". feminism analyses and critiques the illusion of "choice" and does not support choices that is ultimately bad for women as a social group.
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Feminism literally started for women to have choices and live however they want. I guess modern feminism forgot about that already.😂
@@liselottehildegarde5367 yea right, because its so "feminist" to support choices even if they're misogynistic ones
Exactly! We can't complain and say it's a man's world and also say "oh if you want to be tradicional it's your choise girly". Men would always be our bosses if all women are in their houses making sandwiches
Yeah but as a man I want that lifestyle
can we talk about that woman “harvesting strawberries” they grow on a plant not out of the ground.
I do agree that their content is mostly just aesthetic and sharing their blessings and amazing habilities, but it is still consumed by younger audiences.:The background of these trends is ''if you liked what you saw and want to do it yourself: get someone with money so you can live this life, and do it while you are still young because then you are less valuable'.
That is how you end up in the female counterpart of the AlpaMales, the Femeninity Academies. How to be more worthy and how to choose a high value man (and sorry if you are ugly or live in a poor country or are older than 23).
The problem again is not with what a few women choose to do with their lives, the problem is what it causes in many more viewers
Yes this is the problem
TRAD WIFE TREND = SCAM
All these influencer trad wives are nothing but a bunch of liars and deceivers, while they DO have a job which is creating content as influencers and making money for themselves to be financially independent, they encourage other women to fully submit to their husbands and become fully dependent on their husbands’ incomes. So sad! I feel sorry for all women who would fall for these lies and would risk their own future.
Then younger people shouldn't be on the internet
0:19 bro why does this women claim to harvest strawberries THATS NOT HOW STRAWBERRIES GROW😭😭😭
I try to make everything from scratch because everything that the grocery store is full of chemicals and incredibly processed. I know a lot of these women are trying to feed their families well.
I want a trad husband like the one in the video 😂
Nara smith isn't even atrad wife, she works as well as take care of her family by cooking because she likes it! There are also many videos of lucky cooking for her. Plus simply cooking things from scratch isn't a word trad wife thing, she's just used to that as someone who grew up German coming with her family. Americans are just used to buying premade food so she seems like an anomaly. Plus being a feminist is about fighting for the choice to do what you want and even if she was at rad wife that's okay!
Exactly. I'm from Austria and also make so much from scratch. It's how we are wired. Plus eating out, the way we could afford, just never hits the spot.
She's definitely taking advantage of people's perception of it being a tradwife thing, makes her business more money
Ngl as a man I really wish I had that kinda life lol
Thank you so much for the last minutes of this video, I work so hard in the job of my childhood's dreams but sometimes it is so overwhelming amd stressful... I'm struggling between financial, mental and happiness stability, and the last few minutes were just what I needed to hear. Thank you very much
Some people want to be a home maker and that's fine, but for most people it's probably not doable.
Girl I like your vids! (It's refreshing to go about it without a political lens). Hands down, this was the best video I've seen in a while! You make great content! Honestly, so well said and put together, thanks for this vid! Keep being awesome!
When naming trophy wives she forgot about ✨eSmE cUllEn
How is esme a trophy wife? if anything it's carlisle cullen that's the trophy husband
I love you’re calm voice and talks 😭😭
Understandable that people get angry when the rich can spend hours cooking as a hobby, but that’s the ideal right there, which is why they do it.
They do it to make more money. Rich people don’t usually cook their own food, but they will for content creator income.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809are rich people not allowed to live a normal life or cook for themselves?? Make it make sense
Yeah, like, what do people expect rich people to do all day??? Sit around and taunt their money on homeless people?
Seriously, if this a man talking about his stay at home life, then nobody would care.
But Heaven Forbid a woman actually has free will to decide for herself...
I like Nara's vids. I just don't want to be a family member who waits for 6 hrs to get my breakfast. But her vids are amazing and stress free for me
I personally think, that my husband should be providing for me and not dependent on my money as a house income, no matter how muvh I earn, i want to earn, but I need that financial freedom that I can leave the job the second I want.
The trad husband parody is a gem 😂 id lowkey love to have a stay at home husband tho lmao
I love the idea of life as art. Good on them.
Wait how did we come to the conclusion that making your food from scratch means you’re trying to pretend to be poor? I don’t understand
I don't mind being a housewife with a nice guy at all. If he respects me, cares about me, and does not control and manipulate me with the help of finances, everything is fine. There are enough happy couples in these relationships, provided that they did not choose such a relationship model for profit.
The fact that you earn money ≠ decide where I go, what I wear, the ban on hobbies. It's not about love. It's the same as if I cooked dinner and immediately demanded $100 for it. Relationships should be healthy and loving.
hey oh myyy goshhh zoey i have loved your videos forever I know its not related to this video but i had been relasping lately with old ed habits and watching your videos have brought me comfort to eat and workout without the fear of food you've come so far and i hope i can to lots love honey
it’s funny how people assume Nara Smith is a trad wife, when her husband, Lucky actually is cooking, cleaning, and raising her children as a father.
she is not classified as a traditional wife, she is just a super model, her husband is not a provider or breadwinner and he is just like her
they need to stop calling her a traditional wife!! when she never stated herself as one!!! she IS NOT EVEN A TRAD WIFE. People are just so upset, mad, and angry. Meaning that she is an influencer and fashion model.
like they can leave Nara and Lucky alone. They aren’t even trying to bother anyone or benefit as being controversial. They are just living their lives and are just human beings like the rest of us 💔
Appreciating the small and simple things that life has to offer has nothing to do with wealth.
Lesser privileged people would always know how to appreciate wealth if ever it became their new reality. Wealthy could never understand that...
they are many wealthy people on social media who stemed from poverty some people just let money blind them
So what ?they earnd their money let them live
@@maria-mn9ce what an innocent mind you must have to believe rich people actually earn their money.
@@chroma._.5986 so steve jobs who said he barely slept or had social life to reach what he did eventually doesn't deserve his fortune now ?doctors who spend there whole life sacrificing shit for studying to be what they are aren't deserving also ?
@@chroma._.5986sure, there are a lot of nepo babies and families out there, but there’s no shot that you think that not a single rich person worked for it 😭 then there’s be no rich people
I'm proud of Nara tbh. I aged out of that opportunity, but good for her
I'm always shocked by these trends! Let me give you a sneak peek into the Arab world and what rich countries call "the third world." (I live in Tunisia, so I'm speaking from experience.) Starting with the feminist movement, where they want women to work just like men, here, women have been working for centuries, even more than men. Women have always been working, even if they come from rich families, and we've been maintaining traditional households. If children don't work, chores around the house are considered work until they reach the proper age. For example, I worked most summers because my dad wanted me to learn how to be financially stable and independent, yet one of my life goals is to get married and have a family of my own. As for the "poor," they're obliged to start working at a young age, unfortunately, but this doesn't stop us from getting an education and graduating from the best universities.
People who own their own land, plant their own food, and raise animals are considered rich, not a "poor aesthetic." Even though it's one of the hardest things to pursue in life, we still take care of our lands and raise our children to take care of them after us. Also, we're well known for making our own olive oil! My aunt owns olive trees, and every year our whole family goes to pick olives and then takes them to the olive press to make our own olive oil. We do this yearly, so throughout the year, we always have many buckets that we sell and use. We also make our own bread every week-many women make it every day. If you search for types of bread we have, you'll be surprised to know that every country has its own traditional bread-not just countries, but every town and city.
Even couscous, which is a traditional meal in Tunisia and Morocco, we literally make it from scratch every year and stock it. Another example is chilies, peppers, our Harissa, rose water, and orange blossom water. (My father was literally picking orange blossoms from our tree just yesterday.) These things are typical to make in every Tunisian home, and if a family wasn't able to do so, they'd buy them from their neighbors. I swear these are just a few examples, and still, the women in our family are working. I'm always shocked by these trends! It's as if they're living in a parallel world where they just discovered how to clean their asses with water instead of wiping, lol.
¡Interesante comentario, primera vez que leo a alguien de Túnez, qué increíble es tu experiencia!
I'm Algerian we live the exact same life,it is normal for us as north African to make bread everyday or make olive oil from scratch i don't understand stand how they find this as replicating a poor lifestyle
lol some of them actually wipe
@@Emane2002h They’re replicating American 1950’s living. There’s nothing poor about this lifestyle it’s just an aesthetic. If they really want to feel poor they should try replicating 1930’s American living.
Absolutely right, women working is nothing new , also all the traditional women work hard, not like these new tradwives just looking pretty and bakeing bread 😂😂😂
I love that your channel blew up, I have been watching for awhile.
Ugh if i was a rich trophy wife who never worked I'd get so freaking creative - like run a cat rescue that was also a community art studio, and in my free time I'd give apprenticeships/scholarships to the local university kids so thay they are forced to help me out with my garden 😂 BUT NO these poor girls keep making bread
That all takes money though. And the husbands of these trad wives control the finances (most of the time). These dudes are fine with the women cooking for them because they benefit from it but most likely wouldn’t want to invest a ton of money into a hobby that could or could not make them money in return.
@@Shy-xm4kn you're right 😭 luckily in my strange, delusional head cannon I'll just have several husbands 🤔
If these women genuinley find comfort and enjoy cooking at home for their family, what wrong with that? I don't think we have a place to judge them.
@@rumaashraf8649well in MY elaborate and totally ridiculous fantasy, bread is illegal and carbs are a controlled substance 😂😂😂😂
@@rumaashraf8649 We’re not judging these women. We’re sharing the reality that our grandmothers and mothers went through. Regardless, none of this content is real. This is just a source of income for these tradwives because if they really were tradwives, they wouldn’t be on the internet.
You sitting there in a nice blouse looking pretty talking about rich privilege and poor life, hearing you speak in that soft tone, kinda went with the video 😂
Nara smith works creating content and modeling.
Love this video.i think my take on this is that people like to play pretend without boundaries
I just wanted to say I rlly ❤ ur videos so much ty zoe
Those kinds of videos makes ma glad I do not have Tiktok in the first place (I don't want to be caught up in internet drama it taked to much energy).
I want to b3 a housewife. But that's only for the development of my children. I know what it's like to grow up with parents not being there, and i dont want that for my kids. However, i do want flexible work, too, so i can support my family financially, even if it's a little.