I had a cousin who would take a garment, and use brown paper grocery bags as pattern pieces, the bags are study and no print to rub off on the fabric....I watched her take a dress , lay it down on the table and used the bags as paper pattern and made me a beautiful dress....I just wished I could go way back in time to my 15 year old self and ask her to give me lessons.....hind sight 40/40......
@@marywest2896 My skill level isn't advanced enough to draft my own, but I often copy my patterns onto brown kraft paper. Ones I've bought for medieval garb are far too costly for me to cut the originals, and friends of different sizes have been able to benefit, as well.
@@marywest2896 What is called "banquet paper" where I live works well; it's almost indestructible. If you're not sure what I mean it's the heavy white paper sold on rolls to cover tables where the function does not warrant the fanciness of tablecloths. It needs to be purchased, unlike grocery bags, but it's at least inexpensive and a roll lasts a very long time.
My grandmother did that (including original drafting) My aunt threw most of them out after she died. However, she had drafted a hometown jacket and skirt for her honeymoon that was in a different place. I rescued it from the trash and made it for my teenage daughter. The newspaper had part of a review for It Happened One Night
My grandmothers and great aunt set me straight on patterns made of newspaper. Newspapers of the '30s through the '60s were printed on much higher quality paper, with higher quality ink (that did not rub off on your hands, or anything else), than was available to us home sew-ers during the '70s and later. One of my grandmothers had three sisters who all sewed and shared patterns. When they wanted to make changes, they traced the original pattern pieces off onto newspaper(s) and made the changes to the newspaper version. They used straight pins to join papers to create larger sheets of paper for big pattern pieces, because they didn't have tape to join them together. They were also very canny about their pattern layouts and would use pins on the newspaper patterns to mark the grainlines and fabric pattern repeats, or hold a folded pattern piece in place in order to be able to place it to be cut out on a fabric fold. Pins saved them time when transferring marks from the original pattern to the copy and then to the cut fabric pieces, and later could be felt through the layers when it came time to line up the marks while sewing the fabric pieces together. (Yes, they sewed with pins in their fabric, and yes, they did their best to never sew over pins because that could cause damage to the machine, needle, pin, fashion fabric and possibly the sew-er. Three times I have had broken needles fly up into my face [Thank goodness for my glasses!] and two of those times I broke the needle by sewing over a pin. [Before you ask, the third time I was doing freestyle machine embroidery and the needle hit the stitch plate and broke.] The moral of this story is "Don't sew over pins!") It's a shame how much knowledge about sewing has been lost in my lifetime. I sometimes think I ought to write a book because I am a retired professionally trained seamstress and apparel patternmaker who, unusually, has experience and training in several aspects of consumer sewing, factory sewing and traditional couture sewing. More importantly, I asked a lot of questions over the years because I was interested in why people did things the way they did and I was lucky enough to have been taught by people who generously shared their knowledge with me.
My Maternal Great Grandmother, an Edwardian trained seamstress, used newspaper as her patterning paper (ironically, one of her daughters would marry a man who worked in a pulp & paper mill, but I digress). She would see an ad for a coat; draft it out on the morning paper; and have a fitting mock-up by dinner. Of course, none of her patterns survived. If I could call for a shared moment of silence at their loss... OK, my guess is the slip pattern dates back to somewhere near the 30's. And in the 30's they used to do this thing of adding in gores. So, my theory, cut the gore on the fold and add to the CF (that has a centre seam) & CB. And, if you want really swooshy, add to the sides. Maybe she didn't need darts... maybe she was rectangular... As for the bodice - nope, not reticular, busty. Must have attached onto a large waistband? As for me. Yes, absolutely sewing in chaos. I got my Foundations Revealed entry done - I based it on a McCall 1951 weskit. For the theme of nature I named it after my favorite in-city fishing spot and hand quilted it with all the fish I haven't caught (and never got the chance to release). Then I machine quilted in the water in the background of the teal cotton-linen blend fashion fabric. All photographed and submitted. If you want to take a gander, check out my Instagram cathy.macdonald_zytveld However... Done and finished are two different things (if the Big Kids of Cos Tube can get away with it, so...). I've been puttering on with it since the deadline passed. Adding cookies to deal with the bust apex, padding in the shoulder hollow, adding boning to the waist-to-bust dart. And, finally, lining and buttonholes. I've been avoiding the buttonholes for whatever reason. Did I mention that every bit of technology threw several bad moments at me. Seriously Woman, how the heck do you do this on the regular??? - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
Welcome back to the land of YT, Stephanie! This one reminds me of my grandmother, who was known to use my clothes I'd brought when spending the week with her as templates. No brown paper bag (nor much else, truth be told) ever went to waste; she'd trace the separate sections, resize as needed, and recreate what I'd worn for my sister and cousins. I can't tell you what notations or markings she may have added. I've no idea what happened to any of said patterns. Don't stop reading yet! I had a thought about the side pieces. That is, indeed, a side gore. I expect it's meant to have two in each side, below the armscye. (Or cheat like me and cut on the fold, for another kind of adventure LOL.) Who knew a bit of experience with rectangular garment construction (medieval) could have modern implications, eh?
The good old paper bag! I just remember making book covers out of them. And yes, the more I think about it, the more I think there is a missing dart (hence the different lengths) and that those panels are side gores.
This makes me a little melancholy remembering the talent my mother had at sewing. We had little money, so she would take me shopping and then make what I liked. I have no idea how she could do it. My friends were jealous, but being a brat, I wanted the store bought thing.
@@Absintheskiss Oh! I wouldn't have thought of possible bias-cut, but that would make sense. I'm reasonably sure that semi-triangular piece is a gore/godet, meant to run down the side under the arm scye. I've a bit of experience sewing early medieval garments of "rectangular construction," in which gores serve to add fullness. Cutting four (or cheating like I do making two on the fold) would make up the "missing" width.
When you see something patterning the full front or back, rather than half, it is normally because it is to be cut on the bias. Many slips of this type were cut on the bias. This would explain why there were no darts. Zippers were not used in slips of this time period that I've ever seen, and we has lots like this as I was growing up. Normally there would be a side placket made mostly of the seam allowance and snaps would be used as the closure. Since your challenge to yourself involved not asking for help, you only had your own knowledge base to work from, so if you didn't grow up seeing the finished product around the family, it is unlikely you would have been familiar with the usual layout and construction of type of slip. Yes, I'm old. Its true. It happens very quickly.
You might have it backwards. The gathers might be for back comfort and it may be meant to button up the front. It may be a shirt waist bodice. The skirt portion just needs to be a rectangle gathered to the waist.
Oooh my **favorite** game, "Guess The Darts On The Unmarked Pattern!" 💀😂 I see these types of patterns a lot in thrift stores. I wish I could adopt them all, but alas, I don't have the mental fortitude 😵
@@StephanieCanada I have friend who started quilting in chaos, unlike me, who opted for precision. And now she quilts easily with perfection because she practiced more! Chaos is good.
My first thought on the slip was that the shorter piece was a box pleat insert, for front and back. Also, if the newspaper pieces had no seam allowance, if you added the seam allowance to the pieces, that would make it bigger too. Then again, the armholes looked like such a weirdly tight curve, so who knows what's going on with that pattern.
@@MildredCady I make Norse clothing from roughly 800-1100 and that's exactly what that piece is. For the style I make you'd cut 4 pieces--2 sets of mirrored gores. The long side of the gore would be sewn to the body of the garment and the short sides would become your side seam.
Here in the states, the best price on brown craft paper was at the Dollar Tree. Haven't checked recently as I bought a bit of a stash. I think it was 30" x 15 feet and was heavier than what the craft stores were carrying at 1/4 the price.
I draft my patterns on newspaper and I've always just recycled them after I was done and this made me realize that I could totally just get some envelopes and fold them up to save them, since I do sometimes remake costume pieces if it turned out I made atrocious design or fabric choices lol. (Fashion felt... never again...)
@@StephanieCanada haha. I’m 72. I’m thinking my mom maybe couldn’t afford patterns. And I for sure didn’t know they existed. But it sure would have made me a better seamstress if I had learned how to draft my own patterns. I’m just learning how to alter patterns to fit. And quite frankly not doing a great job at that. But we live and learn. I enjoy your vintage pattern videos
I "watched" this twice while copying simplicity 4763 @1943 onto craft paper, only to find the sleeve is missing! Yay me. Any thoughts on finding a size 4 coat sleeve from 1943? Also, I would totally get lost reading the newspaper pieces. I would love finding those!
One of my boxes of patterns is all the newsprint and other paper patterns I've made over the years. And not a few that are made from muslin. Some are labeled, some not, because I thought it was obvious. Hmmm. Might be revisiting that box this week, and adding notes to the patterns. Thanks for another fun video.
I agree about what others have said about using that smaller piece as the side of the slip cut on the bias but I think it's an addition for both the front and the back.
Maybe the slip pattern doesn't include seam allowance. So if you add seam allowance and put the extra piece between the front and back. The difference in length could be for a front dart or to be lower under the arm.
I was thinking that same thing. I seen cutting and thought oh I'd bet money there's SA included. And I agree with the extra piece possibly being a side panel. Plus it being cut on the bias would explain no darts
There you are! So glad to see you! You are braver than me, I would have looked and said no way! But you provided a much needed laugh for my day. We do miss you.
I also tought it might be the european sieze 44 wich would now be a US size 14, bur because this is a pattern from the 40ies, it would be even smaller. I have displayed a dress I made EU size 38 on a mannequin d-from the 1940ies which was labeled size 42, and it just fit the 38 so 2 sizes smaller. The measurements on the sizes have changed considerably over the decades
I bought a French pattern size 44 from the 1950s in the past and it is definitely way smaller than a modern French size 44, let alone an American one so you might be correct. Also, for the short waist, isn't it because it's a dress? So it should get a skirt attached to it and therefore be way shorter than a blpuse by itself?
Newspaper patterns don’t bother me, but I only have my grandmothers and to say she was meticulous in marking and labeling pieces is putting it mildly. I’ve recopied her newspaper pieces to acid free paper for the ones I actually want to sew. Putting in all the tick marks, darts, notes has taken 2-3 hours per pattern. But hey, it’s an elegant dress for The Magic Castle in the end, so I will gladly fuss over it.
Years ago, (like 60 years or so) there were little ads for patterns in the back (classified) section of our small town newspaper. They weren’t from the major pattern companies. Did you ever run across one of those patterns?
The neck on that blouse was very strange and I can't imagine that those arm holes would be remotely comfortable on anyone. So much missing information! You did an amazing job with so little to go on, I would have just fiddled with it until frustration took over and I abandoned the whole thing and ate cookies until I felt better. Absolutely love your videos, they are informative, humorous and inspire me in my own chaotic sewing. Thank you so much!
I want to make a cotton half slip and a full cotton slip. Polyester ones can be sweaty. I say that because I live in Las Vegas Nv and it gets really hot here hence the reason why I want cotton slips.
my guess was it was supposed to be cut as one long piece no shoulder seam from an 85 in by 55 in fabric folded in half length wise then gores made from the leftovers
it was informative but as I watched i kept thinking ...AINT NO WAY she can figure it out with no markings or writing . but had it had what you needed i think you could have made it in your size i wanted to see it in your size i just got use to you doing the end videos . Ok gonna see how the Pom Pom queen elizabeth dress is coming along you know the one i mean . Bring on the BACONS lol
those weird pieces look like front gussets that would make the dart if they are added to the front it also explanes the extra long front for seam allowance at the underbust
For some reason, when I saw the mystery slip pattern piece, I immediately thought it was for making a maternity slip. Could it be that what looks like a side seam is actually a princess seam? Obviously, I might think differently if I were looking at the pattern in person. I have newspaper patterns (and blended patterns) that I inherited from my paternal grandmother/great-grandmother. I find them fascinating and help me understand their thought processes while sewing up garments for various family members.
@Stephanie Canada It's like the recipes in my grandmother's recipe box--it just lists the title and ingredients--nothing else, no amounts, no directions, just a reminder of what the ingredients are 😂😂😂
I LOVE that fabric! It is so my jam! It may not have become a slip, but it looks halfway to a really cute apron. I don't know that I would ever try to make anything from a newspaper pattern, unless the creator was really thorough, but I would ABSOLUTELY get caught up in reading it! I finally sewed my first garment, and chaos sewing was definitely had, because I did it while getting ready for a big move. 😅 Definitely won't be doing that again. But I have a feeling the chaos will still find its way to me next time.
The "slip" pattern looks like it may have really been an old fashioned chemise which would not have had darts or a zipper. You would just drop it over your head .The "extension" pieces might be a ruffle. The other possibility is the patterns don't belong to the envelope, note on the pattern it said housecoat sleeve, yet the envelope said dress - blouse only.
This was awesome! I recently acquired a box of patterns and the lady must have been quite the seamstress because several of the patterns had other newspaper pieces in them to change up the looks. She also had many envelopes with newspaper patterns from drafted from garments in people's closets. I saved these patterns just out of curiosity and perhaps I will attempt to make some of them someday.
I have a pattern book from the 50s, and the sizing is very different from what we are used to... the method is basicly "just cut all the pieces with a 5 cm(2inches) seam allowance in case your body has uneven proportions or you put on weight later." The pattern pieces was just a rough suggestions, there was so much alterations to do! The neckline and armholes on your dress reminds me a lot of how the blouses i made looked like during the prosess. Not sewing to the edges allowed me to fold in a lot of the extra fabric, it was only in the neckline i needed to cut off a lot.
Hahaha, this made me giggle cause I make pattern copies on wrapping paper or newspaper ads (who orders are al newspaper these days??) I don't tend to use notches, and I don't have seam allowance on mine either (am boob, need stitch lines or I can't line things up), but I am also bad for getting things confused so I label THE CRAP out of my patterns and include all kinds of notes, more than one finds on commercial patterns, like what's up and down and which attaches to what... I also have been known to trace existing fitting clothing out on newsprint or packing paper or wrapping paper so I could recreate the garment, my two favourite shirts are copies of garments I bought. I don't tend to do commercial patterns cause they don't fit me anyways, plus my measurements lie, so by the time I'm done with a commercial pattern, I've had to modify it so heavily I have to trace it anyways. I'm not sure my patterns have enough notes for someone else to make use of them but it's enough for me.
I want to learn how to sew my own dresses too. Do you think that I can learn from you? I would do my best to stay focused and not give up easily, or do you think that I may need to learn how to sew my own dresses elsewhere? I thank you in advance for your truthful response.❤!
I've inherited many pattern stashes from older relatives and friends, and when i come across the newsprint patterns...I just toss them. Sorry foremothers! You didn't take good enough notes for me to decipher this!!! (Sometimes I will find a replacement newsprint piece inside an envelope, but those are almost always either labeled to match the rest of the pattern, or very obvious from the pattern envelope/instructions what they are. Those I keep!)
Late comment (and not sure if someone already said this) but maybe the larger pieces could have been meant to be cut on the bias, which would theoretically make it semi-malleable across the body? Maybe? Not an expert (clearly)😂
I have most of my mother's patterns from the 1940s and 1950s, including two slips. Both are for woven fabric cut on the bias (how's that for "budget friendly"?) and I wonder if that was true for your newspaper original because it might explain the lack of darts. Although one of my mother's patterns has shaped pieces around the bust (so, dart equivalents), the second pattern does not have either shaped pieces or darts. I was also wondering if the mystery piece was a side panel, and at 07:16 it looks like you came to the same conclusion.
I mocked up a bias cut linen shift dress from a tank top pattern. After the first cut I had to add a 2-3" insert down the sides, then another insert at the hem. Despite all that patch work, it is my all time favorite dress. The news paper pattern is very reminiscent of my pattern. Although my pattern has generous darts at breast. Also, slip in my time meant petticoat, not dress. Which would make sense for light woven material, or even silk, cut on bias.
I had a cousin who would take a garment, and use brown paper grocery bags as pattern pieces, the bags are study and no print to rub off on the fabric....I watched her take a dress , lay it down on the table and used the bags as paper pattern and made me a beautiful dress....I just wished I could go way back in time to my 15 year old self and ask her to give me lessons.....hind sight 40/40......
Oh wow! That is definitely a skill I want to work towards, but I am not there yet.
@@StephanieCanada have you ever used paper grocery sacks for pattern paper?
@@marywest2896 My skill level isn't advanced enough to draft my own, but I often copy my patterns onto brown kraft paper. Ones I've bought for medieval garb are far too costly for me to cut the originals, and friends of different sizes have been able to benefit, as well.
I do that actually fairly regularly. Mostly because I suck at following commercial patterns although I am trying to get better at that also. 😊
@@marywest2896 What is called "banquet paper" where I live works well; it's almost indestructible. If you're not sure what I mean it's the heavy white paper sold on rolls to cover tables where the function does not warrant the fanciness of tablecloths. It needs to be purchased, unlike grocery bags, but it's at least inexpensive and a roll lasts a very long time.
I'd definitely be reading the newspaper more than trying to fathom the pattern! Far more fascinating.
I want to know what the locals were whipping.
Ditto
My grandmother did that (including original drafting) My aunt threw most of them out after she died. However, she had drafted a hometown jacket and skirt for her honeymoon that was in a different place. I rescued it from the trash and made it for my teenage daughter.
The newspaper had part of a review for It Happened One Night
Ok. Now that is cool!
Oh my goodness❤❤❤!! I love that SO MUCH!
My grandmothers and great aunt set me straight on patterns made of newspaper. Newspapers of the '30s through the '60s were printed on much higher quality paper, with higher quality ink (that did not rub off on your hands, or anything else), than was available to us home sew-ers during the '70s and later. One of my grandmothers had three sisters who all sewed and shared patterns. When they wanted to make changes, they traced the original pattern pieces off onto newspaper(s) and made the changes to the newspaper version. They used straight pins to join papers to create larger sheets of paper for big pattern pieces, because they didn't have tape to join them together. They were also very canny about their pattern layouts and would use pins on the newspaper patterns to mark the grainlines and fabric pattern repeats, or hold a folded pattern piece in place in order to be able to place it to be cut out on a fabric fold. Pins saved them time when transferring marks from the original pattern to the copy and then to the cut fabric pieces, and later could be felt through the layers when it came time to line up the marks while sewing the fabric pieces together. (Yes, they sewed with pins in their fabric, and yes, they did their best to never sew over pins because that could cause damage to the machine, needle, pin, fashion fabric and possibly the sew-er. Three times I have had broken needles fly up into my face [Thank goodness for my glasses!] and two of those times I broke the needle by sewing over a pin. [Before you ask, the third time I was doing freestyle machine embroidery and the needle hit the stitch plate and broke.] The moral of this story is "Don't sew over pins!")
It's a shame how much knowledge about sewing has been lost in my lifetime. I sometimes think I ought to write a book because I am a retired professionally trained seamstress and apparel patternmaker who, unusually, has experience and training in several aspects of consumer sewing, factory sewing and traditional couture sewing. More importantly, I asked a lot of questions over the years because I was interested in why people did things the way they did and I was lucky enough to have been taught by people who generously shared their knowledge with me.
Just make some UA-cam videos! We need your expertise
cut it on the bias and add the 2 x flared panels from the underarm and it would be fine!. slim/slinky but it would fit
Yeah, that was the consensus. Bias is how it should be cut.
My Maternal Great Grandmother, an Edwardian trained seamstress, used newspaper as her patterning paper (ironically, one of her daughters would marry a man who worked in a pulp & paper mill, but I digress). She would see an ad for a coat; draft it out on the morning paper; and have a fitting mock-up by dinner. Of course, none of her patterns survived. If I could call for a shared moment of silence at their loss...
OK, my guess is the slip pattern dates back to somewhere near the 30's. And in the 30's they used to do this thing of adding in gores. So, my theory, cut the gore on the fold and add to the CF (that has a centre seam) & CB. And, if you want really swooshy, add to the sides. Maybe she didn't need darts... maybe she was rectangular...
As for the bodice - nope, not reticular, busty. Must have attached onto a large waistband?
As for me. Yes, absolutely sewing in chaos. I got my Foundations Revealed entry done - I based it on a McCall 1951 weskit. For the theme of nature I named it after my favorite in-city fishing spot and hand quilted it with all the fish I haven't caught (and never got the chance to release). Then I machine quilted in the water in the background of the teal cotton-linen blend fashion fabric. All photographed and submitted. If you want to take a gander, check out my Instagram
cathy.macdonald_zytveld
However... Done and finished are two different things (if the Big Kids of Cos Tube can get away with it, so...). I've been puttering on with it since the deadline passed. Adding cookies to deal with the bust apex, padding in the shoulder hollow, adding boning to the waist-to-bust dart. And, finally, lining and buttonholes. I've been avoiding the buttonholes for whatever reason. Did I mention that every bit of technology threw several bad moments at me. Seriously Woman, how the heck do you do this on the regular???
- Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
I cannot stop laughing at “Why is there no nothing??” 😂
Welcome back to the land of YT, Stephanie! This one reminds me of my grandmother, who was known to use my clothes I'd brought when spending the week with her as templates. No brown paper bag (nor much else, truth be told) ever went to waste; she'd trace the separate sections, resize as needed, and recreate what I'd worn for my sister and cousins.
I can't tell you what notations or markings she may have added. I've no idea what happened to any of said patterns.
Don't stop reading yet! I had a thought about the side pieces. That is, indeed, a side gore. I expect it's meant to have two in each side, below the armscye. (Or cheat like me and cut on the fold, for another kind of adventure LOL.) Who knew a bit of experience with rectangular garment construction (medieval) could have modern implications, eh?
The good old paper bag! I just remember making book covers out of them.
And yes, the more I think about it, the more I think there is a missing dart (hence the different lengths) and that those panels are side gores.
This makes me a little melancholy remembering the talent my mother had at sewing. We had little money, so she would take me shopping and then make what I liked. I have no idea how she could do it. My friends were jealous, but being a brat, I wanted the store bought thing.
I currently label all my homemade patterns so this has inspired me to continue
HOORAY!
Perhaps they meant a European size 44, which is like a size 12
Entirely possible. I was also wondering if the slip was cut on the bias as well. This would explain the full pieces and lack of dart.
@@Absintheskiss Oh! I wouldn't have thought of possible bias-cut, but that would make sense. I'm reasonably sure that semi-triangular piece is a gore/godet, meant to run down the side under the arm scye. I've a bit of experience sewing early medieval garments of "rectangular construction," in which gores serve to add fullness. Cutting four (or cheating like I do making two on the fold) would make up the "missing" width.
Very possible.
Yup. I also think those triangles were gores or godets
Oh man. That was a mess. Good try! Thanks for posting because it makes my little forages into the unknown seem more normal.
Oh it was INDEED. A. MESS!
You are one brave lady!
When you see something patterning the full front or back, rather than half, it is normally because it is to be cut on the bias. Many slips of this type were cut on the bias. This would explain why there were no darts. Zippers were not used in slips of this time period that I've ever seen, and we has lots like this as I was growing up. Normally there would be a side placket made mostly of the seam allowance and snaps would be used as the closure. Since your challenge to yourself involved not asking for help, you only had your own knowledge base to work from, so if you didn't grow up seeing the finished product around the family, it is unlikely you would have been familiar with the usual layout and construction of type of slip. Yes, I'm old. Its true. It happens very quickly.
You might have it backwards. The gathers might be for back comfort and it may be meant to button up the front. It may be a shirt waist bodice. The skirt portion just needs to be a rectangle gathered to the waist.
Oooh my **favorite** game, "Guess The Darts On The Unmarked Pattern!" 💀😂 I see these types of patterns a lot in thrift stores. I wish I could adopt them all, but alas, I don't have the mental fortitude 😵
You always make me feel like I have permission to sew with chaos and I love it! I’ll never be anything but chaotic ☺️ So happy to see you back on YT
I am SO glad to hear that! I want everyone to feel welcome to sew. With perfection. With precision. OR IN CHAOS! You can do it!
@@StephanieCanada I have friend who started quilting in chaos, unlike me, who opted for precision. And now she quilts easily with perfection because she practiced more! Chaos is good.
Your first mirror shot looks like something my great grandmother would have worn!
Same!
My first thought on the slip was that the shorter piece was a box pleat insert, for front and back. Also, if the newspaper pieces had no seam allowance, if you added the seam allowance to the pieces, that would make it bigger too.
Then again, the armholes looked like such a weirdly tight curve, so who knows what's going on with that pattern.
Right! I thought about that too! It was quite the journey
Weird. Even if the pattern was net, that'd still only get it up to maybe 40. Not 44. Huh.
It reminds me of some of the medieval gowns I've made where there's side gores to fill out under the arms.
@@MildredCady I make Norse clothing from roughly 800-1100 and that's exactly what that piece is. For the style I make you'd cut 4 pieces--2 sets of mirrored gores. The long side of the gore would be sewn to the body of the garment and the short sides would become your side seam.
I laughed when you said sort of, kind of, maybe, because I say that all the time!!!😂
Here in the states, the best price on brown craft paper was at the Dollar Tree. Haven't checked recently as I bought a bit of a stash. I think it was 30" x 15 feet and was heavier than what the craft stores were carrying at 1/4 the price.
Interesting!! I will keep that in mind in case I ever try out my own pattern making.
I love the red hair!
I draft my patterns on newspaper and I've always just recycled them after I was done and this made me realize that I could totally just get some envelopes and fold them up to save them, since I do sometimes remake costume pieces if it turned out I made atrocious design or fabric choices lol. (Fashion felt... never again...)
I don't know if it is new or not, but I am just struck by how much I love the way your hair looks in this video!!!
It was INDEED a fresh hair color when I filmed this! It is dulled a bit now, but I still love it. Thank you for noticing!
My mom used the make newspaper patterns using the original garment as I guide. I wish I had learned to do that from her
That is awesome!! Mine always used patterns she bought at Jo-Ann's
@@StephanieCanada haha. I’m 72. I’m thinking my mom maybe couldn’t afford patterns. And I for sure didn’t know they existed. But it sure would have made me a better seamstress if I had learned how to draft my own patterns. I’m just learning how to alter patterns to fit. And quite frankly not doing a great job at that. But we live and learn. I enjoy your vintage pattern videos
I really liked the blouse.
This couldn't come at a better time! I'm self-patterning a slip from a picture of a vintage original.
Glad to see you making again, and love the hair!
Oh amazing!!!
We didn't think you'd move to the other side of the table. We know you at LEAST that well
I "watched" this twice while copying simplicity 4763 @1943 onto craft paper, only to find the sleeve is missing! Yay me.
Any thoughts on finding a size 4 coat sleeve from 1943?
Also, I would totally get lost reading the newspaper pieces. I would love finding those!
What kind of coat sleeve do you need? I have a BUNCH of patterns in size 4
The screaming goat. I can't stop 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Thank you. Great video.
Hair is lookin' cuuuute!
Thank you! I am digging this new color
One of my boxes of patterns is all the newsprint and other paper patterns I've made over the years. And not a few that are made from muslin. Some are labeled, some not, because I thought it was obvious. Hmmm. Might be revisiting that box this week, and adding notes to the patterns. Thanks for another fun video.
Great new haircut, Stephanie!
Thank you Elizabeth! I really enjoy it!
I agree about what others have said about using that smaller piece as the side of the slip cut on the bias but I think it's an addition for both the front and the back.
Maybe the slip pattern doesn't include seam allowance. So if you add seam allowance and put the extra piece between the front and back. The difference in length could be for a front dart or to be lower under the arm.
OH maybe that too!!
I was thinking that same thing. I seen cutting and thought oh I'd bet money there's SA included. And I agree with the extra piece possibly being a side panel. Plus it being cut on the bias would explain no darts
A valiant attempt was made!
I sure did try!!!
Brown wrapping paper also works for retracing older patterns. Easier to mark.
There you are! So glad to see you! You are braver than me, I would have looked and said no way! But you provided a much needed laugh for my day. We do miss you.
I'm here! Promise! Just busy. And I am glad I made you laugh! That is all I can ask for.
loved this video- your hair looks so pretty!
Thank you so much!
Wow. Great presentation.
Thank you so much
I also tought it might be the european sieze 44 wich would now be a US size 14, bur because this is a pattern from the 40ies, it would be even smaller. I have displayed a dress I made EU size 38 on a mannequin d-from the 1940ies which was labeled size 42, and it just fit the 38 so 2 sizes smaller. The measurements on the sizes have changed considerably over the decades
It could be a European size 44, especially since the other blouse was a solid bust 38"
I bought a French pattern size 44 from the 1950s in the past and it is definitely way smaller than a modern French size 44, let alone an American one so you might be correct. Also, for the short waist, isn't it because it's a dress? So it should get a skirt attached to it and therefore be way shorter than a blpuse by itself?
Newspaper patterns don’t bother me, but I only have my grandmothers and to say she was meticulous in marking and labeling pieces is putting it mildly. I’ve recopied her newspaper pieces to acid free paper for the ones I actually want to sew. Putting in all the tick marks, darts, notes has taken 2-3 hours per pattern. But hey, it’s an elegant dress for The Magic Castle in the end, so I will gladly fuss over it.
Years ago, (like 60 years or so) there were little ads for patterns in the back (classified) section of our small town newspaper. They weren’t from the major pattern companies. Did you ever run across one of those patterns?
Oh yes, I do come across those mail order patterns quite often! AND the ads for them.
Great video!
The neck on that blouse was very strange and I can't imagine that those arm holes would be remotely comfortable on anyone. So much missing information! You did an amazing job with so little to go on, I would have just fiddled with it until frustration took over and I abandoned the whole thing and ate cookies until I felt better. Absolutely love your videos, they are informative, humorous and inspire me in my own chaotic sewing. Thank you so much!
I’m sure others have said this, but the pins in the first pattern may have been the notch and dart markings.
Welcome back Stephanie! My grandmother used newspaper patterns and a treadle machine!
That is amazing!
Yay you! Adventures in sewing starring Stephanie. Love your sense of humour.
Thank you so much Anne! That is so kind of you!
Your hair looks beautiful
Thank you!!
fun fact 'built up shoulder slip' is the name of a slip type that is still around today its a tent type slip
I could see a lucky dip for $1 with approximate sizing based on a quick guess be a fun let's try something 😅
I probably would have been tempted to try it too. But might have given up before you.
I want to make a cotton half slip and a full cotton slip. Polyester ones can be sweaty. I say that because I live in Las Vegas Nv and it gets really hot here hence the reason why I want cotton slips.
I have a couple of these and I don't have nerve to make it but I don't want to toss them either.
my guess was it was supposed to be cut as one long piece no shoulder seam from an 85 in by 55 in fabric folded in half length wise then gores made from the leftovers
I'd love to get my hands on that slip pattern to see if I can make heads or tails of it.
Email me at likethenorthcountry@gmail.com! Happy to send it your way
it was informative but as I watched i kept thinking ...AINT NO WAY she can figure it out with no markings or writing . but had it had what you needed i think you could have made it in your size i wanted to see it in your size i just got use to you doing the end videos . Ok gonna see how the Pom Pom queen elizabeth dress is coming along you know the one i mean . Bring on the BACONS lol
those weird pieces look like front gussets that would make the dart if they are added to the front it also explanes the extra long front for seam allowance at the underbust
Your hair looks really pretty love the colour ❤
Thank you so much!
or, indeed, it could have been a pattern for jersey. Both options would make sense for a slip
Possibly.
I almost spat my coffee on the screen when you made me laugh in an inopportune moment 👍
Sorry for the involuntary coffee fountain moment.
This is an unfortunately normal occurrence here, as well. Coffee is not designed to come out your nose while laughing!
This was fun, it’s always interesting to see things people customized for themselves with no plan for anyone else to ever use them lol
Completely amusing! Thank you for sharing your misadventures!❤
I so enjoy spending my Sunday mornings with you! What an adventure!
Thank you Megan! That means SO much to me!❤
This was really fun! I wouldn’t have tried that 😂😂😂
Thank you friend! I am here to do all the insane things no other sane person would try.😂
Inset...maybe a center panel?
For some reason, when I saw the mystery slip pattern piece, I immediately thought it was for making a maternity slip. Could it be that what looks like a side seam is actually a princess seam? Obviously, I might think differently if I were looking at the pattern in person.
I have newspaper patterns (and blended patterns) that I inherited from my paternal grandmother/great-grandmother. I find them fascinating and help me understand their thought processes while sewing up garments for various family members.
Hmm I guess anything is possible since the person didn't label ANYTHING.
@Stephanie Canada It's like the recipes in my grandmother's recipe box--it just lists the title and ingredients--nothing else, no amounts, no directions, just a reminder of what the ingredients are 😂😂😂
I think that that one funny piece belongs underneath of your armpit for the slip. I remember seeing an Old slip of my grandmother's that was that way.
Agreed. But man was it frustrating in the moment.
@@StephanieCanada I agree
They are identifiable as garments, so I'd say you did great!
I LOVE that fabric! It is so my jam! It may not have become a slip, but it looks halfway to a really cute apron. I don't know that I would ever try to make anything from a newspaper pattern, unless the creator was really thorough, but I would ABSOLUTELY get caught up in reading it! I finally sewed my first garment, and chaos sewing was definitely had, because I did it while getting ready for a big move. 😅 Definitely won't be doing that again. But I have a feeling the chaos will still find its way to me next time.
That fabric is so cute! I am going to try your walkway dress over spring break and I am even going to try to film it just for you! ☺️💕
HOORAY!
*chef's kiss* I'm going to leave the ones I have in their envelopes! And man, I have missed your sewing shenanigans!
Aww thank you! And I don't think they are ALL this bad, but with no writing or notches it was truly harrowing.
I really needed screaming goats today! And your hair is so pretty and shiny, LOVE IT! 😍
The "slip" pattern looks like it may have really been an old fashioned chemise which would not have had darts or a zipper. You would just drop it over your head .The "extension" pieces might be a ruffle. The other possibility is the patterns don't belong to the envelope, note on the pattern it said housecoat sleeve, yet the envelope said dress - blouse only.
Herculean task there Stephanie! Thanks for this! Makes me feel better about some of my never finished wardrobe. Love your hair!
Thank you Barb! It truly was a mountain of a journey.
A valiant effort, Stefanie! We were with you all the way! ❤
Thank you Melissa! I am so glad my frustration and anguish didn't go unseen.😂
Always glad to see your vids in my feed!!!
Thank you! This one was a challenge too.
This was awesome! I recently acquired a box of patterns and the lady must have been quite the seamstress because several of the patterns had other newspaper pieces in them to change up the looks. She also had many envelopes with newspaper patterns from drafted from garments in people's closets. I saved these patterns just out of curiosity and perhaps I will attempt to make some of them someday.
I hope that yours have some written instructions on them somewhere. 😂
I have a pattern book from the 50s, and the sizing is very different from what we are used to... the method is basicly "just cut all the pieces with a 5 cm(2inches) seam allowance in case your body has uneven proportions or you put on weight later."
The pattern pieces was just a rough suggestions, there was so much alterations to do!
The neckline and armholes on your dress reminds me a lot of how the blouses i made looked like during the prosess.
Not sewing to the edges allowed me to fold in a lot of the extra fabric, it was only in the neckline i needed to cut off a lot.
What fun! Missed seeing you
Aww shucks! It is nice to be back.
Way back then, women did not trace patterns, they drafted their own patterns from pictures. Of course using newspapers which was readily available.
Guess you werent meant to slip into it Stephanie..... I have many of patterns like these over the years isnt it fun thanks for sharing.....
Now THAT was a good pun
🤣
Love your videos!!
Thank you so much Pam! That means so much to me!
Maybe it was a larger flat chested gal who didn't need darts?
Maybe? Just wish she would've noted that somewhere. 😂
Hahaha, this made me giggle cause I make pattern copies on wrapping paper or newspaper ads (who orders are al newspaper these days??) I don't tend to use notches, and I don't have seam allowance on mine either (am boob, need stitch lines or I can't line things up), but I am also bad for getting things confused so I label THE CRAP out of my patterns and include all kinds of notes, more than one finds on commercial patterns, like what's up and down and which attaches to what...
I also have been known to trace existing fitting clothing out on newsprint or packing paper or wrapping paper so I could recreate the garment, my two favourite shirts are copies of garments I bought. I don't tend to do commercial patterns cause they don't fit me anyways, plus my measurements lie, so by the time I'm done with a commercial pattern, I've had to modify it so heavily I have to trace it anyways.
I'm not sure my patterns have enough notes for someone else to make use of them but it's enough for me.
Is the front the longer piece?
That tells you how big your darts are
Are the 2 triangular pieces not gores! They add a little width down the length of the body, and a lot of flare at the hem
I want to learn how to sew my own dresses too. Do you think that I can learn from you? I would do my best to stay focused and not give up easily, or do you think that I may need to learn how to sew my own dresses elsewhere? I thank you in advance for your truthful response.❤!
I’m wondering if that slip insert piece was to be cut on the fold. 🤷🏻♀️
Hey, you never know what you end up with unless you try!
VERY true!
You are precious.
☺ aww shucks...
Why write anything down when it’s your favorite pattern and you know how it goes together anyway?😂
😂 I feel seen and attacked at the same time!
Do you think it was meant to be on the bias? Would that have it fit near enough?
I would Google pictures of slips from that year(found on the newspaper?). Might give an idea of where the pieces go?
Because I have been selling patterns for over 10 years I do have an idea of how it goes, it was just the lack of any markings at all that threw me.
OH NO! 😂
*Koolaid man bursts through wall moment* Oh yeah...
@@StephanieCanada 😂😂😂😂
I've inherited many pattern stashes from older relatives and friends, and when i come across the newsprint patterns...I just toss them. Sorry foremothers! You didn't take good enough notes for me to decipher this!!! (Sometimes I will find a replacement newsprint piece inside an envelope, but those are almost always either labeled to match the rest of the pattern, or very obvious from the pattern envelope/instructions what they are. Those I keep!)
Wasn't there a collar and a sleeve?
Late comment (and not sure if someone already said this) but maybe the larger pieces could have been meant to be cut on the bias, which would theoretically make it semi-malleable across the body? Maybe? Not an expert (clearly)😂
I have most of my mother's patterns from the 1940s and 1950s, including two slips. Both are for woven fabric cut on the bias (how's that for "budget friendly"?) and I wonder if that was true for your newspaper original because it might explain the lack of darts. Although one of my mother's patterns has shaped pieces around the bust (so, dart equivalents), the second pattern does not have either shaped pieces or darts. I was also wondering if the mystery piece was a side panel, and at 07:16 it looks like you came to the same conclusion.
Yeah. I am thinking now it should’ve been on the bias but still, no markings was a nightmare!
@@StephanieCanada I imagined myself doing this and felt your pain.
I mocked up a bias cut linen shift dress from a tank top pattern. After the first cut I had to add a 2-3" insert down the sides, then another insert at the hem. Despite all that patch work, it is my all time favorite dress. The news paper pattern is very reminiscent of my pattern. Although my pattern has generous darts at breast. Also, slip in my time meant petticoat, not dress. Which would make sense for light woven material, or even silk, cut on bias.