Shawn Rhoden may not have the best bodyparts,but you've got to admit that everything suits that well on his body,he is the most aesthetic bodybuilder,and has the best structure of all of them,and for that I consider him the best.
@@ashishbhosale9254 by law yes. But I believe he as done it! He is known for touching up women ( 2017 ) he got his jaw broke by a guy for touching up his girl.
@@dleigh9997 With 0 evidence. The DNA sample proves nothing but that they had sex, and if I remember right it was only spit so maybe not even that. Either way, last time I checked, fucking wasn't illegal, and the family of the woman has a history of these cases and lying about this Stuff.
Damn even tho I like Dennis alot but his physique is so ugly in my opinion , and when he is standing next to Rhoden who has such a beautiful physique it shows even more
Yeah Shawn's def more aesthetic. I wouldn't say Wolf's physique is ugly but he does look a little weird in a couple poses like the front and back double.
Well I guess i appriciate much more better genetics shape and symetry , and for my money thats just something that wolf doesnt have , even myself have better genetics than wolf in my own opinion
G K The levrone avatar is because He is my favorite bodybuilder and not myself because i dont take photos of myself without a shirt off.And you are just making wolf look insane by telling that he was 3rd in 2013 but that still doesnt change the fact that his shape and muscle bellies really arent any special , his size conditioning and fulness is
@@mikebird5148 Great wheels require calves, look at Tom Platz. You can't claim great wheels when the lower half is non existent. Also I wasn't the one saying he has peg legs. But that really does apply to his calves.
@@chefmastershake Yes you are correct, great wheels require great calves, I was going off of judging criteria, the judges only seem to care about quads and hamstrings so in that aspect, he has great wheels is what I was getting at.....
Shawn takes front double, back double, back lat spread, and ab and thigh, wolf takes the front lat spread, side chest, and side tricep the most muscular can go either.
I love Shawn and Dennis because they have great structures and great x frames. I would give Shawn the front double, rear lat spread, and ab and thigh. Dennis wins both the lat spreads, side chest, side tricep, back double.
Prime Rhoden had such a good looking physique. 2011/2014 Rhoden is definitely my favourite modern bodybuilder and i'm so Bias i thought he should have won all those Olympias (except 11)
Your bringing up so many great points things that I haven't noticed in a long time but you know the thing is Dennis Wolf's most muscular what used to be just amazing is starting to just deteriorate and his Cav is non-existent which really isn't important in the most muscular but his forearms and just the fullness that he used to have is non-existent as well
Great video Tomn8er! This really was one epic battle between these two greats! Btw, you may not remember, but I wanted to say thank you regarding you giving your reasoning behind picking Shawn Ray as your favorite bodybuilding physique. That was very much appreciated. Now, I'm very curious what you think of Shawn Ray's viewpoints and opinions. As you probably know, Shawn has some rather "interesting" opinions and he's not afraid to speak his mind. Would you consider his opinions\viewpoints overall to be agreeable or more on the debatable side? Also, feel free to ignore any questions I may have. I'm just a huge fan of your channel and of course bodybuilding so I just love to ask questions, know more, etc.
Shawn's definitely a shit disturber but I agree with probably 90% of the stuff he says. It's funny that so many people blast him for being blunt and honest but love Lee Priest for the same thing. I guess because Lee comes across as more humorous and Shawn more like an arrogant dickhead? I dunno but I like em both!
Rhoden should have won the show and if he brought this version of himself to the 2017 Olympia I think he should have beaten phil as well. Bodybuilding is not judged correctly in my opinion
I like this version of rhoden way more than the 2018 mrO, his waist is wider and he doesnt look as full as he was back then in 2014. Sure the conditioning is alooot better but you cant deny that rhoden has a godly physiques here
Rhoden looks so much more appealing, love the smaller and defined waist, and I prefer his quads over Wolfs too. I give back double bicep to the guy on the left.
For my money, this was the best Rhoden ever looked. Wow. I'm not sure if he beat Dennis here, but had he looked like this against a big gut Heath, I could easily see him.winning that '18 Olympia.
These too were always a good battle as both had the same weak areas, short lats and calf’s with flat biceps also had very similar structures Shaun being a little more aesthetic and Dennis being taller and heavier always came down to who was better conditioned on the day.
Great video, Tom, I love this miniseries :) Only 2 episodes left though =/ Yeah, this was a close one, 2 great bodybuilders clashed and it was really the apples and oranges situation with them - your analysis was neat. I still can't really like Rhoden. For me, judging pro bodybuilding (lol, like if I'm a judge or sg...I'm not, although sometimes I'm quite sure that even I could score these guys more fairly than actual judges...) is just about impressions as it is about bodyparts or the flow of physique. And here's my problem with Rhoden: he is lukewarm af. He makes no impressions on me at all, I cannot name another top bb. from recent history whom I've found this uninteresting. At least when I look on Wolf I can immediately be amazed by his size, freak-factor or the lack of calves :D When I see Rhoden: yeah, a black dude with muscles, move on. I admire his shape and quality, he is good, but I somehow find the whole current roster more interesting than him. Probably due to his face: he seems like an android waiting for the much needed social update or firmware. No expressions, no emotions whatsoever. So for these reasons: Wolf all day.
I get what you're saying. Rhoden does lack charisma on stage... lol @ android waiting for firmware update! If you're looking for something to be impressed with, I think his front double biceps and ab and thigh are his standout poses and he's one of the best to ever hit them, not just by modern standards but all time.
I would give Rhoden the front double, ab and thigh, and the most muscular maybe. The big bad wolf wins the front lat spread, back lat spread, back double, side chest and side tricep. 5-3 wolf. I loved the 2012 version of Rhoden, because that front double is a thing of beauty
I tend to favor mass over aesthetics. However I never could get that excited about Wolf. He just looks weird in some poses. That said, according to criteria Wolf takes it.
Looking at Cerdic, I realise he has gotten bigger since then, but he lost shape in his midsection. Shame really, that he did not take advantage of those earlier years. With his overall shape, if he came condotioned, he would be a threat even to a 2011 version of Phil.
Is that just me or Rhoden looked better here than he did at 2018 olympia? well okay, lets say more pleasing. Because I think his arms looked a lil better at Olympia and pecs also, and he was more conditioned. But at the same time his midsection and overall flow is more pleasing here. He is kida dwarfed by Wolf though.
G K I don't think his muscle bellies or symmetry is good, but he is aesthetic compared to Branch Warren, crap, Tom Platz has these guys absolutely destroyed, not by size or conditioning, not even proportions, but Tom's Muscle bellies are just so much more pleasing
Do not believe in the Rhoden hype train that he's ushering in some new aesthetic era (I think for that to happen there must be a period of time where no overwhelming mass competitor exists on the stage [Dorian --> Ronnie --> Jay-ish --> Phil --> Ramy]) but that hands on hip most muscular is actually very impressive.
Back here after years!. Yes they should award size, asthaetics and conditioning but they should punish bodybuilders for missing or broken parts. The whole lower part of Wolf's back is missing and he has no calves at all. Shawn's lower back is weak but not completely destroyed. Rhoden probably deserved the win here.
Wolf has very good quad sweep but ends up looking off because of the two sticks below his knees. Also although I like wolf's v taper his lats are very asymmetrical, as are his biceps & calves or lack there of. Sory Dennis.
I am a Wolf fan but he sure did NOT get calf genetics. Genetically Shawn is hard to beat. He has a classic physique with good size, tiny joints and waist, etc.. I have seen Shawn's back look harder and more detailed but he looks awesome.
I'm a big Dennis wolf fan and when I watch this video which I believe was aired on bodybuilding.com I really felt like Denis won. but now watching this I can see that he probably lost this pretty handily and maybe even could have taken third Cedric McMillan I believe took second and I think Cedric is a considerably better bodybuilder and the same size as Dennis with better back development and calves.
i'd personally go with Shawn in this show... Dennis looks too incomplete in my opinion, i think Shawn is beating him by a larger margin than vice versa 👍
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Wolf got that hardcore pirate-prothesis-look with those amazing calf development.
lol yeah calves are not his forte. He was pretty great for the most part though
Comment of the year :D
Wow dude it was clearly an injury. One head of the calf muscle is completely missing. Probably nerve damage.
Ohh Maan lmao .THIS
From the side they were huge and detailed, e.g. side chest his calves look massive. Then the front the angle seems to disappear them.
Rhodens biceps /arms was so much bigger in 2014 than now
They looked great here, imagine this shape with 2018 conditioning, now that would be a sight to see
He needs an oil change
jesus dude
Shawn Rhoden may not have the best bodyparts,but you've got to admit that everything suits that well on his body,he is the most aesthetic bodybuilder,and has the best structure of all of them,and for that I consider him the best.
And now he IS the best lmao
@@dleigh9997 innocent until proven guilty
@@ashishbhosale9254 by law yes. But I believe he as done it! He is known for touching up women ( 2017 ) he got his jaw broke by a guy for touching up his girl.
@@dleigh9997 With 0 evidence. The DNA sample proves nothing but that they had sex, and if I remember right it was only spit so maybe not even that. Either way, last time I checked, fucking wasn't illegal, and the family of the woman has a history of these cases and lying about this Stuff.
dale Wilson idk why this is so funny 😂😂😂
"from the rear you can definitely take advantage of him" - 9:03
Ahhahahshahahahshhs
Pause
They are the only two people on stage and still their elbows touch in the back double bicep
My thoughts exactly 💯
Yes cedric was killing the top 2 from the back !
Rest in peace, Shawn
I hope The big bad wolf can make his comeback & look like he did. You're 100% spot on in this competition! Great video & breakdown!
thx brother
Rhoden just looks perfect in this show. He is so balanced and aesthetic
Damn even tho I like Dennis alot but his physique is so ugly in my opinion , and when he is standing next to Rhoden who has such a beautiful physique it shows even more
Yeah Shawn's def more aesthetic. I wouldn't say Wolf's physique is ugly but he does look a little weird in a couple poses like the front and back double.
Well I guess i appriciate much more better genetics shape and symetry , and for my money thats just something that wolf doesnt have , even myself have better genetics than wolf in my own opinion
JF STAHP And you know how?
then why is Levrone on your avatar and not your body, if you have better genetics then Mr.O 3rd place bodybuilder?
G K The levrone avatar is because He is my favorite bodybuilder and not myself because i dont take photos of myself without a shirt off.And you are just making wolf look insane by telling that he was 3rd in 2013 but that still doesnt change the fact that his shape and muscle bellies really arent any special , his size conditioning and fulness is
These guys look great!! I swear Shawn’s back, especially his upper back, is very big and full here!! They both look great!!
Dennis is a pirate, with those peg legs.
Still, much respect to him as a bodybuilder.
Those are the worst calves I have ever seen.
@@chefmastershake Peg legs? He has no calves but great wheels.
@@mikebird5148 Great wheels require calves, look at Tom Platz. You can't claim great wheels when the lower half is non existent. Also I wasn't the one saying he has peg legs. But that really does apply to his calves.
@@chefmastershake Yes you are correct, great wheels require great calves, I was going off of judging criteria, the judges only seem to care about quads and hamstrings so in that aspect, he has great wheels is what I was getting at.....
@@mikebird5148 That's a fair point.
When you tally up the poses; Wolf didn't win them all, but won enough to take it.
0:55. Dennis Wolf probably has bigger arms than Shawn Rhoden, but because of those peaks from Rhoden, there looking bigger to me.
But Wolf had separations in his biceps, Shredded...
Where Rhodens biceps are the smoothest
@@xsantoshxab Doesn't count for shit when the biceps are as flat as wolf's with a weird ass shape.
In that last shot Rhoden's collarbones and chest make a nifty X
Shawn takes front double, back double, back lat spread, and ab and thigh, wolf takes the front lat spread, side chest, and side tricep the most muscular can go either.
I love Shawn and Dennis because they have great structures and great x frames. I would give Shawn the front double, rear lat spread, and ab and thigh. Dennis wins both the lat spreads, side chest, side tricep, back double.
Prime Rhoden had such a good looking physique. 2011/2014 Rhoden is definitely my favourite modern bodybuilder and i'm so Bias i thought he should have won all those Olympias (except 11)
Rhoden has the best front double bicep IMO. Just his stance and execution. Its the most aesthetic ive ever seen.
Happy new year Tom. Good to see you back!
rhodens back is better there than it was at 2018 Olympia
Keep up the good work, we need you!!
Your bringing up so many great points things that I haven't noticed in a long time but you know the thing is Dennis Wolf's most muscular what used to be just amazing is starting to just deteriorate and his Cav is non-existent which really isn't important in the most muscular but his forearms and just the fullness that he used to have is non-existent as well
Great video Tomn8er! This really was one epic battle between these two greats!
Btw, you may not remember, but I wanted to say thank you regarding you giving your reasoning behind picking Shawn Ray as your favorite bodybuilding physique. That was very much appreciated. Now, I'm very curious what you think of Shawn Ray's viewpoints and opinions. As you probably know, Shawn has some rather "interesting" opinions and he's not afraid to speak his mind. Would you consider his opinions\viewpoints overall to be agreeable or more on the debatable side?
Also, feel free to ignore any questions I may have. I'm just a huge fan of your channel and of course bodybuilding so I just love to ask questions, know more, etc.
Shawn's definitely a shit disturber but I agree with probably 90% of the stuff he says. It's funny that so many people blast him for being blunt and honest but love Lee Priest for the same thing. I guess because Lee comes across as more humorous and Shawn more like an arrogant dickhead? I dunno but I like em both!
@1:44 damn bro, criticism at its finest! 🤣😆😂
My God Dennis Wolf is a horrendous looking physique. How he made it anywhere I'll never understand
Exactly
also, cedric had the best side tricep in that line up.
Evans back looked fucking unreal
Rhoden was great back in the day. He looks like he time traveled right from the 90´s.
Yo what’s up....in a time like this us bodybuilding fans are missing you...hope you’re ok....
this version of shawn rhoden looks better than this year olympia win looks way fuller and the conditioning is the same
He's fuller for sure. Waist is smaller and overall I think he looks better and more aesthetic here. But 2018 def has the edge in conditioning.
Yoh, this guy just knows what he is talking about.
Rhoden should have won the show and if he brought this version of himself to the 2017 Olympia I think he should have beaten phil as well. Bodybuilding is not judged correctly in my opinion
3:59 OMG CALVES. I thought wolf had no calves... this is mind blowing.
I like this version of rhoden way more than the 2018 mrO, his waist is wider and he doesnt look as full as he was back then in 2014. Sure the conditioning is alooot better but you cant deny that rhoden has a godly physiques here
Your videos are getting better man! Big love. PS. Do one about Olympia 2010 Cutler vs Heath because i think Phil won that.
Thanks and yeah good call that was also an awesome head to head battle
10:25 wolf ain't running away with nothing look at cedric
The latest back latspread of Dennis wolf yesterday was good as it is 7 weeks out for Arnold classic Ohio, I hope he looks good
Shawn looks great here arguably better than in 2018, by today standarts he wouldve won
Rhoden looks so much more appealing, love the smaller and defined waist, and I prefer his quads over Wolfs too.
I give back double bicep to the guy on the left.
If wolf had low lat insertions, he would have been a multiple time Mr.O
For my money, this was the best Rhoden ever looked. Wow. I'm not sure if he beat Dennis here, but had he looked like this against a big gut Heath, I could easily see him.winning that '18 Olympia.
That time when rhoden still has a deflated abs
These too were always a good battle as both had the same weak areas, short lats and calf’s with flat biceps also had very similar structures Shaun being a little more aesthetic and Dennis being taller and heavier always came down to who was better conditioned on the day.
Rhoden looked better then than he did for the Olympia in 18... if only he had a half decent back
Great video, Tom, I love this miniseries :) Only 2 episodes left though =/
Yeah, this was a close one, 2 great bodybuilders clashed and it was really the apples and oranges situation with them - your analysis was neat. I still can't really like Rhoden. For me, judging pro bodybuilding (lol, like if I'm a judge or sg...I'm not, although sometimes I'm quite sure that even I could score these guys more fairly than actual judges...) is just about impressions as it is about bodyparts or the flow of physique. And here's my problem with Rhoden: he is lukewarm af. He makes no impressions on me at all, I cannot name another top bb. from recent history whom I've found this uninteresting. At least when I look on Wolf I can immediately be amazed by his size, freak-factor or the lack of calves :D When I see Rhoden: yeah, a black dude with muscles, move on.
I admire his shape and quality, he is good, but I somehow find the whole current roster more interesting than him. Probably due to his face: he seems like an android waiting for the much needed social update or firmware. No expressions, no emotions whatsoever.
So for these reasons: Wolf all day.
I get what you're saying. Rhoden does lack charisma on stage... lol @ android waiting for firmware update! If you're looking for something to be impressed with, I think his front double biceps and ab and thigh are his standout poses and he's one of the best to ever hit them, not just by modern standards but all time.
Does my head in when they stand to close
very intresting
Rhoden looks like a statue
Top 3 with a missing calf?
McMillan clearly won
Cedric runs away with back double bicep. I think Victor looks pretty damn good too.
Cedric allll dayyy in this show
Wolf always looks like he has a peg leg(left calf, cough.....)
Before Rhoden tried playing the size game the last couple of years and developed a little distension I thought he had the best fdb in the game
I would give Rhoden the front double, ab and thigh, and the most muscular maybe. The big bad wolf wins the front lat spread, back lat spread, back double, side chest and side tricep. 5-3 wolf. I loved the 2012 version of Rhoden, because that front double is a thing of beauty
Look at the seperation in wolfs biceps compared to Rhoden, is that different genetics, conditioning, or do you think Rhoden used synthol in his arms?
I tend to favor mass over aesthetics. However I never could get that excited about Wolf. He just looks weird in some poses. That said, according to criteria Wolf takes it.
Since when has Shawn roden more Detail in the Front Double have you looked at the Arms for one second ?
thought Wolf was the tallest & biggest but not next to Cedric.... dam!
Wolf is better.
Wolf has some German Genetics brah
Shawn Rhoden is also good. His arms looks big.
Can you please start the videos with your old intro?
Does Dennis actually miss half a calf? You know, like some people are born with missing muscle.
Looking at Cerdic, I realise he has gotten bigger since then, but he lost shape in his midsection. Shame really, that he did not take advantage of those earlier years. With his overall shape, if he came condotioned, he would be a threat even to a 2011 version of Phil.
Is that just me or Rhoden looked better here than he did at 2018 olympia? well okay, lets say more pleasing. Because I think his arms looked a lil better at Olympia and pecs also, and he was more conditioned. But at the same time his midsection and overall flow is more pleasing here.
He is kida dwarfed by Wolf though.
The fuck happened to rhodens arms after five years?
I kinda dont like Wolfs phisique. He is too blocky, no muscle bellies, he reminds me of Branch, but much taller.
minus the legs
Way better than branch Warren
G K Branch!?! Noway! Lol, Wolf is not blocky at all, as long as he controls his gut he's very symmetrical
G K I don't think his muscle bellies or symmetry is good, but he is aesthetic compared to Branch Warren, crap, Tom Platz has these guys absolutely destroyed, not by size or conditioning, not even proportions, but Tom's Muscle bellies are just so much more pleasing
Do not believe in the Rhoden hype train that he's ushering in some new aesthetic era (I think for that to happen there must be a period of time where no overwhelming mass competitor exists on the stage [Dorian --> Ronnie --> Jay-ish --> Phil --> Ramy]) but that hands on hip most muscular is actually very impressive.
Victor Martinez...back double bicep
Rhoden was beating Wolf all day!
Dennis is more dry, we're talking about conditioning and Dennis is bigger
Rhoden is destroying Dennis here
Shawn should have won this show.
Damn I thought Cedic killed it. I think the best version of Wolf was 2007
Most aesthetic yes. He wasn't as big or as conditioned in 2007 though
I was never a fan of Dennis Wolf’s physique, i don’t know about you guys but to me that is a hideous looking physique.
Shawn looks better hear than the Olympia 2018 with much bigger arms and back! His conditioning was better in the Olympia 2018 though.
Woah woah woah, Dennis easily wipes him in the rear lat.
Back here after years!. Yes they should award size, asthaetics and conditioning but they should punish bodybuilders for missing or broken parts. The whole lower part of Wolf's back is missing and he has no calves at all. Shawn's lower back is weak but not completely destroyed. Rhoden probably deserved the win here.
Wolf has very good quad sweep but ends up looking off because of the two sticks below his knees. Also although I like wolf's v taper his lats are very asymmetrical, as are his biceps & calves or lack there of. Sory Dennis.
Wolf has such a odd structure imo. I cant get past his torso length vs his legs. and the no calve thing. The left calve is tripping me out actually.
Cedric Victor smoking the lot from back.... Cedric if only he had condition would’ve walked away with this
Victor winning the back double
HolyAdonis he looked good, but I think Cedrick was better.
How can a bodybuilder win a contest with missing bodyparts? Wolf could have come with a wood leg and win this if he did with that no muscle leg..
First time I’ve actually disagreed with u on a lot of ur decisions . No hate just different opinion!
I am a Wolf fan but he sure did NOT get calf genetics. Genetically Shawn is hard to beat. He has a classic physique with good size, tiny joints and waist, etc.. I have seen Shawn's back look harder and more detailed but he looks awesome.
Yeah he was sharper at this year's Olympia but he was easily more aesthetic here IMO
100% agree!
I'm a big Dennis wolf fan and when I watch this video which I believe was aired on bodybuilding.com I really felt like Denis won. but now watching this I can see that he probably lost this pretty handily and maybe even could have taken third Cedric McMillan I believe took second and I think Cedric is a considerably better bodybuilder and the same size as Dennis with better back development and calves.
where is his left calf!??
Wolf weak calf correct me if I'm wrong please......
I think Cedrick Won. Cedrick looks like Buchanan with huge legs.
I hope Wolf won this! I thought he smoked Rhoden! Cedric’s legs kill him. They look like they are on a different person!
Who won finally
Lol, nothing below the knee. 😂😂😂
Thats genetics, his calf insertion is so high it almost looks like he doesnt have them.
i'd personally go with Shawn in this show... Dennis looks too incomplete in my opinion, i think Shawn is beating him by a larger margin than vice versa 👍
Shawns front lat is incredible 😂 terrible take from you bro cmon
If the wolf is not so symistic it would look much better.
Wenn der Wolf nicht so symetrisch hin steht würde es gleich viel besser aussehen.
Dennis the stilt Wolf lol 😆 😂 🤣
They both look really sharp but flexitron takes it
C-A-L-V-E-S !
I wonder who would win the rear glute spread 🤭😘