RODE VideoMic NTG Review
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- In today’s episode, we put the new RODE VideoMic NTG through several tests to see how well it performs as an on-camera and off-camera shotgun boom microphone. This new mic moves the camera-top shotgun microphone market forward several steps by adding, for the first time, USB recording capabilities as well as a bunch of other very useful features. This is probably my favorite $250 or less shotgun microphone.
#RODE #VideoMicNTG #Microphone
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Gear used or mentioned in this episode:
RODE VideoMic NTG - B&H bhpho.to/2KBK59e Amazon geni.us/qEmwS
RODE Fur Windshield for VideoMic NTG - B&H bhpho.to/2WpDuFR
RODE VideoMic Pro+ - B&H bhpho.to/2HgqSa7 Amazon geni.us/TthSx1
RODE VC1 Extension cable for booming the VideoMic NTG - B&H bhpho.to/2FVQXKq Amazon geni.us/L8GzF
Rycote Softie fur cover for VideoMic NTG - B&H bhpho.to/358XoW8
Whirlwind pcDI box - convert the output from the NTG to a balanced connection which supports longer cable runs without picking up noise and interference - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon geni.us/DYKbLAA
DEITY V-Mic D3 Pro - B&H bhpho.to/2TQJpCZ Amazon geni.us/LhLA5
Aputure 300DII LED Light used as a key light - B&H bhpho.to/2y38ga2 Amazon geni.us/7EKTp54
Aputure Light Dome II soft box on key light - B&H bhpho.to/2Osyx8j Amazon geni.us/LirLfz
Aputure 120DII LED Light used for slash of light on background - B&H bhpho.to/2T7FtcR Amazon geni.us/deg3
Aputure Barn Doors used to create the slash of light - B&H bhpho.to/2FZCvFC Amazon geni.us/clnp
Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 6K - B&H bhpho.to/2oeIXA1
Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 4K - B&H bhpho.to/2JB7W5V
Tilta Half Cage for BMPCC 4K/6K - B&H bhpho.to/2WPkHli
Olympus 45mm f/1.8 Micro 4/3 Lens - B&H bhpho.to/2wMxVDs Amazon geni.us/6cvOQ
Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 OIS Lens - B&H bhpho.to/2i6s2gv Amazon geni.us/QXvPz8b
Sigma ART 24-70mm f/2.8 EF Mount Lens - B&H bhpho.to/2kjsI2x Amazon geni.us/bhOWVlW
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Man... the sheer quality of production and the knowledge is just off the charts! Bravo!
Thanks arfmf!
I had some noise on mine, and then they released a firmware update.. fixed it. Love how they can just update the mic's sound profile with firmware.
That is pretty interesting that they could reduce self-noise with a firmware update! Happy new year, Tommy!
Thx a ton for this comment had no idea about firmware updates. Was getting an unacceptable hiss when using this mic attached to the iphone 11 / filmic pro and it was seriously upsetting me. I would have returned it if the hiss couldn't be fixed. Just updated the firmware and thank god it fixed the issue! And also awesome review!
@@tihkal Yes, thanks Tommy!
@@curtisjudd yes i have heard this in the comments in an older review. people claimed the firmware fixed the noise issue
@@RayValdezPhotography So happy I read this! I was about to return it. Gonna update firmware now and hopefully this fixes my hissing problem.
Do you know how great it is when you have something new to learn about and a Curtis Judd video pops up?! It's the best.
Thanks Tom, very much appreciate it!
One of the most well presented reviews I've seen in a long time, thank you, just subscribed
Thanks Jesswah.
absolutely agree. this is a fantastic review. comprehensive and well presented.
Top notch video as always Curtis. Thanks for all that you do, and a very happy New Year to you! I hope 2020 is amazing for you.
Thanks Bandrew, happy new year to you! 🎆
World's are colliding. My two favorite mic reviewers! You guys are awesome!
I have some mic reviews I need to do so IF you see maybe some tests inspired by your videos...yes they were and I'll make sure to let people know they were also. I better go film those now. 😂
@@joentell Show us some microphone magic, Joe!
Oof
Happy new year to the both of you in 2022!
I've learned 90%+ of what I know about audio from Curtis. Just bought a handful of the equipment listed on the how to boom video. Going to level up audio very soon! Thank you Curtis!
Thanks Brendan, I hope it all works well and happy recording!
I have the Deity V-Mic D3 Pro and it's crazy on how much the VideoMic NTG is a like. I think both are better then the VideoMic Pro+ but that's a good point on the clipping possibility. NTG is a little more but you get more for that money. If those extras mean nothing to you, than I say stick with the D3 Pro and save some money. Great job Curtis!
Thanks Corey!
Thank you for doing an honest and unbiased review that aims to inform, instead of pushing people towards affiliate links. I really appreciate that. When it comes to audio you're one of very few people on UA-cam I trust to give proper advice. The NTG seems like a great mic, although my VideoMicro is surprisingly good for what I do. Might be tempted to pick up the NTG at a later date, though. Have an amazing New Year!
Thanks for the feedback!
Yes, and when you consider that you could probably stick the Rode VXLR adapter on the end of it to get that balanced output? Would that be the case?
Fantastic review my friend. I think you've taught me the most about audio than anyone I know. Have a great new year!
Thanks Tomas! Happy new year to you!
Ditto to this!
@@mattgray128 Thanks Matt! 👍
Comment to show the algorithm hay great is this video. I have been looking for mics for 2 months but every video or review i see is subjective. The work showed on this video with the real tests is just grate. Thanks a lot, i probably get the NTG
Thanks Luis.
The gain dial and using the NTG as a USB mic are two features that make it a worthwhile upgrade from the Pro+ to me. My only peeve is that there be some way to check how much battery life remains. Maybe the light starts flashing when the battery is low? Great review, Curtis. You are the Audio Guru Jedi Master, for sure.
Thanks Todd!
Thanks for posting it Curtis. I was waiting for your review since the launch of this NTG, and from the time you left your comment on the official RODE promo.
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Wow, this review was fantastic, helpful, and educational - thanks!
Thanks Ben.
Stellar work as always, Curtis, so thank you. You’re making it very much easier for us little guys to make informed purchasing decisions.
Now I’d like to see a video of you at work on an actual corporate shoot; a ‘behind the scenes’ look at how you select the area to shoot in, the gear selection, setup, conducting interviews, collecting B-roll and so on. It would also be great to hear your thoughts on how to get into this line of work and what the considerations are. Maybe this exists in your online classes, but just thought I’d mention it.
Thanks!
Thanks UltrafiAV. I started at my employer 13 years ago as a product business analyst - it is a software company - and slowly over the years became the videographer. Up until the Pandemic, I made mostly internal videos which they didn't want to go to the public but perhaps after the pandemic settles, we can do something like this. Thanks again!
Great video, Curtis! Is it just the XLR adapter that makes the Deity balanced? If so, could we just use the Deity XLR adapter on the RODE and make it balanced that way? Thanks.
Hi Gerald, no, the microphone has to support a balanced signal. Or you can use a DI box to convert to a balanced signal but those are generally pretty bulky.
Those adapters are generally passive but there are some that do plug-in power conversion that are more expensive. I have also seen some with built in Transformers which would make the signal a balanced send but they are hard to find. If only manufactured listed their doctors with more than the incoming and outgoing connector!
@Ben Hoare It will convert the voltage, yes. It will not make it a truly balanced signal from my understanding.
@Ben Hoare Thanks, I'll have a read of that.
Looks like Rode now sell a gadget called "VXLR Pro" that does have a transformer balanced output and will provide "plug in power" voltage for mics that require it. Handy little device well worth what they are asking for it.
This is an outstandingly high quality review. Thank you!
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Great video as always Curtis. To my ears it sounds like you really can't go very wrong with any of those 3 mics. If you have the Pro Plus or the D3 Pro I'm not sure I see a compelling reason to go out and also buy the VideoMic NTG unless the USB C functionality is important to you.
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whats the benefit of the USB-c?
Hello Chris, I’ve now owned my NTG for the past 3 weeks and LOVE IT 👍🏻, the audio features on this mic have the ability to dial in the settings to suit whatever is needed to capture brilliant sound. Thank You for producing this video review ✌🏻 Cheers from Wild Western Australia
Hi iSpike , so good to hear it’s working well! Keep making great sound!
I have been waiting for this video for 2 week, best channel for light and sound education on the internet! Now I can make a decision, thanks for the help 🙏
You're most welcome - best wishes! 👍
Very good explanation on how the high pass filters at 75 and 150 hertz work. The instruction manual didn't have much detail into what these numbers meant. Thank you for this video.
You bet! 👍
I finally bought one. This is an odd little mic. The “gain” control is a bit misleading. It does not control the mic preamp gain. It appears to be a digital output level volume control. You can hear little “ticks” as you change it indicating it is NOT an analog controller. I believe the mic gain is probably fixed at 50-60dB gain (amplification) with the addition of selectable 20dB attenuation before the preamp.
Still, in the end it works well. Simply set your camera to it’s lowest setting and turn the dial on the back end of the mic until you reach the desired level. Remember to use that -20 dB option in a loud environment. I love the auto power feature. For the price a furry wind cover should be included. The foam does not do much in the wind.
And it gets even more odd when used over USB on a computer. You can use it for audio in and out, but there is no way to turn the mic off. You can always hear it.
Thanks for the clarification, Ed.
I learn as much from just the way you create your videos as I do from your intended subject matter. Thanks for both information sources.
Thanks Andrew!
Love how Rode's nomenclature adds NT on the end, so their mikes are names after rats, and their families. :)
Only just found that out recently!
Write out Rode, and add NT.
Yep.
Curtis is so thorough, upfront and fair! thnks for the help Curtis
Thanks Omar!
So would the recommended workflow be to always record the two versions of audio to right and left channel (one at higher db and one at lower) and then discard the one that's not needed, and use the best version and then sync it over right and left channels? Or is that just a needlessly complicated workflow, and the two versions is only needed for certain difficult audio environments?
I usually don't and just save it for tricky situations where I'm not sure how loud things are going to get.
@@curtisjudd Thanks for the reply!
@@curtisjudd I am confused if the NTGs safety channel works with the pocket 4K? I do not know which setting to use. Rather I "manually" choose 3,5mm left and right to 1 and 2. Where channel 2 is set to 30% gain instead of 50.
Is this wrong? or how its supposed to be used on the pocket(or any cine-camera for that matter)?
@@Mastersh1t It does work with the pocket 4k. You need to set the camera so that the left channel is set to 3.5mm mic left and the right channel is set to 3.5mm mic right. You'll then have the primary track on the left and the safety track on the right in the camera files.
@@curtisjudd Thank you for the quick reply Curtis! I thought that as well but when I pulled the file into Final cut I couldnt see any difference in the audio waves. They looked identical. Thats why I lowered the gain on the right channel so I could feel confident one channel was lower than the other. I will give it a try tomorrow again and see if I missed anything.
This is one of the most comprehensive reviews I’ve ever seen. Hat’s off to you, subscribed!
Thanks David!
This would have been an interesting option now that I have a Camera that actually has good preamps. But too late, I am committed to the Tascam DR60MkII and Rode NTG2 now xD
Not a bad combo!
Hey wonder what you think the differences would be between your set up and the videomic ntg? I'm debating a similar set up vs the ntg?
@@Nickporter17 If you have a Canon or Nikon Camera, the NTG is gonna be an issue. If you have a Sony or Panasonic, the NTG is gonna easily deliver enough quality for UA-cam and safe you a decent amount of money compared to my setup. But personally I would go with the Deity V-Mic D3 Pro, which is potentially better then the NTG at a lower cost (at least here in germany, the NTG is a good 60Euro more expensive then the Deity V-Mic D3 Pro). Not only are you going to safe some money compared to my setup if you go with the Rode or Deity, but you`ll avoid the step of syncing the audio to the video, which can be an issue for some software. But, if you have to work a lot with the audio mixing and mastering, the Tascam DR60MkII + Rode NTG2 (or any other prosumer grade shotgun mic) combo delivers higher quality audio that is easier to manipulate. I have to cut out a lot of room sound, DeEss the audio and do some EQ, the 24Bit 48khz WAV files from my Tascam allow that easily. That would be a bigger issue with the audiofiles coming straight out of the camera. Bit of a long answer but I think I gave you a good amount of pros/cons :D
@@ArikGST thank you! I currently own the diety smic 2s and run it straight into my Sony alpha with a cheap little inline preamp. So a bit of a hybrid set up. I was planning to buy a higher end recorder like your tascam in the future. But was considering selling it for a simpler Videomic NTG or Vmic D3 Pro. I guess what you have highlighted is that the real difference will be in levels of post processing ability of each type of setup. Thank you very much for the long answe!
@@Nickporter17 Glad I could help. Since you already have a high end microphone, the Diety Smic 2s is a GREAT mic, it might be worth to go with a recorder to use that mic to it`s full potential. Really depends on what kind of video you want to make though. For most UA-camrs who make vlogs/talking-head/sitting-down/overhead-shot type of videos (like mine) something like a Deity Vmic D3 (not pro) would likely serve all their needs as long as you get the mic nice and close to your source. But honestly it would be a shame to let go of the Smic2s, maybe it would be enough to use a higher quality inline Preamp. I am not up to date on preamps so I can`t make a recommendation.
It's cold and you're booming yourself. Kudos! Thanks for creating this review.
Hahaha! The show must go on, regardless of the weather!
I don't get why they make a mic in 2020 that have those two limitations on the battery. Either give me battery read-out or let me swap the battery. Missing both options is annoying.
Thanks for the feedback! I hope they see it here.
And what's worse is if there's an issue with the battery it's a disaster for the recall just ask Samsung. We should pass some sort of requirement that requires all batteries be removable for recycling and safety purposes, if it's not totally impractical for the design of the product although that would make nice loophole.
You are one of the best reviewers I have ever seen. Keep up the good work. You taught me a lot about audio and lighting.
Thanks Govind!
If you take the extended cable issue out of the equation and wish to use this as an indoor stationary boom mic would you still pick a super-cardioid over this or Deity to avoid sound bounced off the walls?
Hi Zach, given the choice and assuming money is not a barrier, I'd almost always choose to use a non-shotgun super-cardioid when recording indoors. But if money is a consideration, and it almost always is, I'd think either the VideoMic NTG or D3 Pro will do a nice job, especially if you manage any room reverb with blankets.
Highly comprehensive review. Thank you very much!
Thanks Alexander!
Hey everyone, I have a simple question. I have a small budget and needed a low-cost mic that I could use to boom. Will the Rode video mic go work well?
It works! Use that!
James D. Buzzard Thank you for you response!
@@FPNN Teamwork makes the dream work🙋♂️
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Check out the Rode VideoMicro too. It's cheaper and from what I've seen is much more highly regarded. I have it and I think it sounds great boomed. I have a video on my channel actually.
Just... wow! Quality production, review and comparisons between the microphones. Great job!
Thanks Carsten.
As usual, great review CJ!!! Thanks again for all of the quality content over the years.
Thanks for the feedback!
Just purchased one after seeing your review. Looks like a nice upgrade to our gen 1 Rode Videomic Pro. Will be a nice additional on-camera mic to our main mic, an Audio-Technica AT4053B. Very helpful and comprehensive review as always, thanks Curtis. p.s. We purchased two of your audio courses and they're excellent, thanks for that too.
I hope it works well for you!
Informative video! I’ve been using the mic since early spring and I’ve been very satisfied with it. Yes the output is balanced, but just fine for my needs with both my Sony ZV-1, my iPad Pro, my M1 Mac mini, and my iPhone when I need it; it’s all about the versatility and portability. I did mention to RODE about the non-replaceable battery, but then I was told that it was one good reason why you register the mic for the 10-year warranty. If it believes in this product that much, I can see myself using this for years. Again, thanks!
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Very, very well done, as usual, Curtis, Thank you for making this video. It was very interesting and informative as usual. Have a great day!
Thanks Michael.
Thanks for the video. I have watched a few videos of yours so far. They are all professional, and very well done. The content is also very professional.
Thanks, Frank!
As usual, great video. Thanks, Curtis!
Thanks Denis!
Curtis, thanks for the great reviews. Starting to pay much more attention to sound really appreciate your detailed reviews and knowledge, refreshing. I don’t always have the luxury of having an audio guy on smaller projects.
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback!
I received mine today and looking forward to trying it out soon. Thank you, Curtis, for making this great review video. Cheers from Western Australia (Not affected by the terrible at my home)
Hope it works well for you! Cheers from the Rocky Mountains
Thanks for another great review, Curtis. One of the great things about having so many microphone reviews from you is that I know your voice very well and can compare vs. the reviews in separate videos :)
Thanks Barry!
Not only a great review, but also a great opportunity learning about sound and recording! I now use the Deity D3 Pro - the replacement for my lost RODE VideoMic Pro+ - and I'm really satisfied w it! Only thing I still miss is the auto on/off feature from the Rode Mic...yes, I've recorded w mic OFF...not good. I think the D3 Pro is better than RODE VMP+, and the NTG a competitor to the D3 Pro
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Great review Curtis, I purchased this one using your link. Thanks for the tip on the 10 year warranty if registered.
👍 happy recording, Gary!
@@curtisjudd I’ve been tapped by a local non-profit I work with to video their pickleball tournament next week and I didn’t have a decent shotgun mic, this one is really great for the job.
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Thanks Curtis for the through review and comparison.
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I think Curtis knows what his gift is. Great channel and review!
Thanks for watching, Adam.
Curtis, man... I've been clicking through review after review of this mic, observing my patience wane in inverse proportion to the frequency and intensity of my cringes. So many reviewers out there-God bless them- lack the practical experience and theoretical knowledge necessary to bring a review to life. By contrast your reviews always deliver. You tend to anticipate my questions about specs, applications, techniques, comparisons, etc. The last guy had this drum loop going and he kept clipping the mic and butchering technical terms... I literally sighed in relief when this video started.
Thanks Hermiel - that made my day!
@@curtisjudd Brother, that's the least I can do!
Great review, thanks for a straight up review with useful demos. I wish everyone did this as well as you do!
Thanks Jim.
This little guy looks very useful, thanks for the video!
You’re most welcome!
thank you sir, you really help me a whole lot, you just don't know how much I rely on your extensive knowledge. thanks
Thanks Damen - happy recording!
The best part of this video is you with those sun glasses & of course awesome review!!
Thanks crisanto!
I may have missed a previous video, but I'm loving this lighting look!
Thanks Dan!
This is how you make review videos and that is how you make shotgun mics for intermediate consumers.
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Thank you for this superbly comprehensive review! 🙏🏻
Thanks Cleto.
@@curtisjudd I also watched and enjoyed your clip with Bandrew Scott. It would be great if you guys could get together with Booth Junkie DelGaudio 😉
@@cletotirabassi Consider it done: ua-cam.com/video/dsEkZm1xiJA/v-deo.html
@@curtisjudd Ah, brilliant! Going to watch it asap. I did take a look through your list, but somehow overlooked this.
Thanks Curtis, love the sound of the NTG. Can't wait for mine to arrive.
I hope it works well for you!
Your videos are very helpful! They have helped me make a lot of choices and I appreciate it!
Keep up the good work!
Thanks Taylor!
Another great review, Curtis. I really appreciate the detail and points you make - I always learn something new.
Thanks Michael!
Great review, Curtis. The mic sounds great to my ears. Thanks for the time and work.
Thanks Jorge!
Thanks for the review!
You bet!
Yes, and I think that the Rode VXLR might provide plug-in power to give a balanced signal, making it still a cheaper option than its larger NTG siblings. Any thoughts? Would the VXLR adapter work?
Hey Curtis I was waiting for you to do this video. I have always been a Rode fan boy and was disappointed that I had to buy the Deity D3 pro as it was the best option at the time. I do wish I had waited a couple of months for the Rode NTG. Oh well that's life, I guess the D3 pro will still do a good job. Great video as always. You're the only UA-camr I just on audio issues. HAPPY NEW YEAR to.
Thanks and Happy Nee Year to you!
Priceless review. Thanks Curtis
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Very good video, Curtis, as always. Keep it up.
Thanks Kamil!
Thank you! This is a great, straightforward review on this mic.
Thanks rio197.
Always awesome and comprehensive review! Thanks for sharing Curtis! I bought a pair of the Rode VMP+.
Thanks Homer, good to hear from you!
@@curtisjudd received a pair I ordered today after almost 6 months of delay due to the pandemic. Thank you again for your reviews. You're making the decision making aspect a lot easier. :)
Excellent review. Thank you very much! Helped me to make my mind.
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Amazing review. Top notch. Very professional. Best luck.
Thanks!
Really enjoyed your video, always packed with great information!
Sounds good, looks good, smooth editing!
Thanks Walter!
Such a professional review, thank you.
Thanks Neil.
Best ,thanks .comparing with competitors also very helpful.
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By far THE BEST video about this mic!
Just subscribe. Thank you!
Thanks Freddy!
Wow, that was a thorough review. Nicely done.
Thanks Geoffrey!
Excellent review ! I just got this in the mail.
Thanks! I hope it works well for you!
Very good review. Thanks for taking the time to teach us all! :)
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Been waiting for you to make this video ever since the Rode Videomic NTGwas announced.
Delivered! I wasn’t fast but hopefully thorough. 😀
Solid review my man.
Thanks Derick!
Top review! After listening to multiple comparison reviews, including yours, I was under the impression that the noise floor of the Rode NTG to be lower than that of the Deity D3, despite specs claiming the opposite (-79 dB vs -84 dB). However, your quantified comparison seems to confirm again that the Rode is indeed less noisy (-77dB vs -69 dB)! This makes me think that Rode has been playing fairer game in their product specifications.
As for the balanced output on the Deity, I actually couldn't find any confirmation on this, neither on Deity's website, nor in any of their manuals. The only thing I can find on Deity's website and manual is that it generates "dual mono tracks", which is not necessary balanced (and likely not, if it's not specified and if it's designed for an unbalanced stereo input as found on most cameras), the latter of which is distinctive for containing tracks of opposite sign that are otherwise identical, which are to be subtracted from each other in order to eliminate built up noise. The adapter you mention seems to convert phantom power to "plug-in" power. I believe that also Rode provides a similar adapter, it is just not advertised as a set for the NTG. However, I would be surprised if these adapters manage to transform an unbalanced signal to a balanced signal. This transformation requires more than a few wires, and is typically achieved with a DI box. Having said that, if a DI box or audio interface is not available in proximity of the microphone, the NTG actually seems to offer more flexibility for distant recordings than the Deity. Firstly, as you have demonstrated in your review, the NTG seems to be less susceptible to RF interference, making it more suitable for wireless set-ups. Secondly, since the NTG has its own encoder, it is possible to transmit the recordings digitally over USB. Whereas the quality will now also be limited by the 48kHz encoder, I guess that it is still better than that found in a phone, laptop or motherboard, although I couldn't find much specifications on it. Anyway, you have demonstrated that it is not too bad and certainly good enough for a microphone of this caliber, which was also very helpful!
Thanks for the input MrSeppieD. When I looked into it further, the DEITY adapter evidently does impedance balancing which is different than sending the same signal phase inverted on the second pin. In either case, one should use a DI box if long cable runs are required. Thanks for the insights!
Fantastic review, as always!! Thank you!!
Thanks Tom!
These videos are so pro quality, awesome presentation.
Thanks!
Thanks for the helpful video!
I had the same (decision) problems with battery life but than I thought about roughly 300 full cylcle life time of typical Li accumulators - 300 x 3 is 9000 or one year of 24/7 use of the microphone. I decided that I will not kill the battery within 10 years of moderate use (non-professional) and maybe you can give it a 2nd life phase as studio microphone using the USB port with a computer. I ordered it three days ago ...
Thanks! I hope it works well for you!
@@curtisjudd I received the vm NTG yesterday and played around a little bit: It's seems to be a great tool: The right controls at hand, light, compact, and most importantly the audio quality seems to be on par with what I see ... better hear in professional productions.
Will work well as standalone on camera and for a three microphone setup using the NTG, two M5s and a Tascam DR70D - the latter ones for ambient sound which is important for the "feel" in conjunction with the scenery.
@@MB-tp8ne Sounds like a great setup. Happy recording!
Good afternoon Curtis:
Thank you very much again for your many helpful responses to my comments. Before I buy the Rode Videomic NTG that you suggested, I wanted to ask a few things.
(I shoot talking head videos in my office. I am going to use a boom stand and put the mic a few inches above my head, out of frame. My office has thin carpet and some furniture. I shoot with the Sony ZV1. I got the Sony so that I don't need someone watching the video during the shoot to make sure that it is on.)
You previously recommended the Rode Videomic NTG to me based on the above, but I wasn’t sure if you recommended that because you thought I was on a budget. Assume budget is not an issue. I don’t currently use an audio recorder.
You mentioned that the Videomic NTG isn't good for long cable runs. I assume that wiring this mic to a boom pole and to my Sony ZV1 isn't a "long cable run" for a talking head in my small office, correct?
You mentioned something about the comparable Deity D3 Pro being better for a wired boom stand. However, I'm not sure what you meant.
And yes, I will use your affiliate link to whichever shotgun mic, boom stand and extension cable that I buy.
Thanks again for your Lupo bicolor soft light recommendation. It arrives Monday.
Hi JZ helps, correct - just a short run to the end of a boom pole in a small office shouldn't create a big risk of picking up interference.
DEITY claimed that the D3 Pro's included XLR adapter converts the signal to a balanced signal which generally enables longer cable runs - 50+ feet, for example. But on closer inspection, it looks like it may only be impedance balanced and not the typical transformer balanced we'd expect for long cable runs. In any case, the VM NTG seems like a good fit for your use case.
@@curtisjudd Thanks again! Hopefully, just one final question.
Will I notice an big improvement by using the Rode VM NTG (boomed overhead) instead using the the Azden EX-507 XD Professional Lapel Mic for Pro XD (costs $39.00), or the lapel mic that came with my Comica CVM-WM300(A) wireless system?
Thanks!
@@RealJustinZiegler It will definitely sound different, the main thing I'm wondering is whether it will sound better which depends largely on your room and how it sounds - how much reverberation and ambient noise there is.
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Their is an AC vent above me that produces a little noise of air blowing. I have some thin carpet, but I can buy a few foam panels or whatever is best for the wall.
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From what I see, why do most talking head indoor seated videos from the popular UA-cam influencers use overhead shotgun mics instead of lapels?
Thanks Curtis! As always.
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23:43 what do you think "if they do have something planned in the works" could be ❓ would be great to get a balanced output from this microphone 😁 thank you again curtis for your time and effort, i always find myself coming back to your videos
They released it. It is called the VXLR Pro and it is a true, transformer balancing XLR adapter: B&H, DVE Store geni.us/x9icPf
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Hi Curtis great video, I wonder what would you suggest - for capturing like cooking or recipe videos? the goal is to capture you know cutting of onions , cooking process and others
plus the most directional mic ( cancelling or minimal background noises like kids shouting)
we aleady placed our mic close enough to the food.
Considering Rode videomic NTG or other NTG mics from rode or other brands.
Thanks
How about the RODE NTG5? ua-cam.com/video/bv1xUShuUY0/v-deo.html
This is just what I need, great review!
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Outstanding and very informative review! Chapeau!
Thank you.
@@curtisjudd Curtis, I have a question: since it is a mono mic it just records only one channel right? Because thats whats happening with this new Mic! Doesn’t matter if attached to my Nikon Z7 nor my Ninja V. I can only record the right channel. I tried the TRRS cable but also several TRS cables. Any ideas or is my unit defective…? Thanks in advance!
@@andreathode3782 It has been a long while but I thought it outputs the same signal on both right and left channels except when in safety track mode and then the right channel is the same audio but at a lower level. Sounds like you may want to contact RODE support. Best wishes!
Fantastic review as always. My one concern is does that dial move really easily? I’m afraid I would actually turn it without realizing it with my forehead or something.
No, there’s a very nice amount of smooth resistance. You’d have to press pretty hard against it to accidentally move it.
The 3.5mm output jack... Could one put a splitter on it to monitor the audio going into their camera? Or would they get a misconception of what the camera was really recording? I have an older camera without a headphone jack and it would be nice to monitor the audio. Perfect timing of the Dump truck at 5:38 btw. NO...Serious! Real world review and application at its finest. Excellent Review as always! Thanks Curtis.
-Will
Good question, didn't have a chance to try that. If you've got a splitter, let's try it next time we work on a video. Happy new year!
Theoretically yes however passive headphones can act as a microphone and also a load on the circuit, try it see how it sounds Make some noise and see if it messes up the recording. Nothing will be damaged by doing that other than making a bad recording because the levels will be way off as you're essentially putting a resistor across your microphone. Now if you were to do this with a headphone amplifier or active headphones you might have better luck. However a better solution would be to get one of those little battery powered camera mixers to solve the issue altogether, or perhaps a field recorder that mounts to the camera that way you'll have a backup recording.
I was thinking of a passive microphone. for an active microphone you're essentially dealing with a sort of line level signal which is a little bit easier to deal with and that case I would still use like a headphone amplifier or a active set of headphones or better in my other comment... either way everything pretty much holds true.
@@imark7777777 thanks for your insight. I'll have to experiment. Thanks again!
-Will
@@Debtfreehomesteaders Battery-powered microphone + recorder + Headphones = 3 microphones, decent close speech, would not recommend.
Battery-powered microphone + recorder + HPAmp&Headphones = no noticeable difference.
Test was performed using 2 Neewer mics NW-D20 & Cardioid/Omni Condenser 40095448, Sony MDR-V150, FIIO E7 ( low volume ) various ebay DIY modules - headphone amplifier TDA130, line pre-amplifier, dynamic microphone amplifier ( Good, GooD, GOOD volume ). Recorder was an iPod Nano using a Griffin Voice recorder set too high quality 44,100 and Mic input.
I wouldn't recommend it if you were dealing with quiet signals. although my tests were quite clear and I wasn't pushing the distance, loudness or quietness. just a casual chat with myself.
Ever since I saw the question I was like, I have all the stuff kicking around and it wouldn't be that hard to test it. I've more or less wanted to know the answer to this question anyway this just gave me a reason to find out.
Looks like I beat you to it?
I would recommend a headphone amp something not in the hi-fi $$$$$$$$$ category but with a decent output. I haven't tried them but I've heard good things about the Boostaroo unfortunately I don't think they exist any longer.
and some sort of in line volume control either added after that or on the headphone cable, if the amplifier doesn't come with a volume control.
After that it's just a matter of making the connections, so a double ender 3.5 and a Y.
Excellent video!!! Thanks Curtis 🙌
Thanks Mike!
excellent review. this is what we really need to make buying (and creative) decisions.
Thanks Es Gee!
a lot of rumbling on the deity and rode video mic plus on your first outdoor testing listening through my earphones
Good ears!
The Deity is the worst in this case.
ua-cam.com/video/c4Pu72J5BRE/v-deo.html
I'm surpriesed how good the NTG handle it.
Great review, as you always do! Thumbs up!
Thanks!
great job again man! love your content Curtis! Helped me a lot.
Thanks Sam!
Great technical video with fantastic information. Thank you.
Thanks Camden.
thank you for your review- it helped us decide.
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Good Job mate. Thank you for the review.
Thanks! 👍
The safety ch feature is an amazing thing for something so inexpensive. It can really save you from having to reshoot.
Agreed.
Thanks for the mic nerd out.
You’re welcome!
Thanks for the video!
You're welcome!
Hi Curtis, Thank you for the effort you put into these videos! Even video's like this which is a review about a specific product, you still manage to make them very informative. I've learn't a lot
about audio watching your videos recently. So I've just got a quick question about using mic's plugged directly into the BMPCC. I'm getting really low levels on mine, I've tried a few different on camera shotgun mics, and Adjusted the levels on the camera. Do you have any tips for this?
Hi Joe, yes, the Pocket cinema cameras, even the newer 4K and 6K, do not supply a lot of gain so you generally have to run the input levels pretty high - easily in the 90+ range. If you're working with a microphone which doesn't have a really strong output level, then there's a need to push them even higher. To be honest, I generally view the inputs on the Pocket cams as an option to use in a pinch or to take a line level signal from a dedicated audio recorder or preamp/mixer. In short, your experience is completely in line with my experience with the BMD cameras across the product line.
Out of curiosity, which microphone are you using? And to confirm, you're working with the original pocket cine cam?
@@curtisjudd I'm using the pocket 6k, and tried with a Rode Videomic Pro and a pro +
I've just ordered the Deity D3 Pro, which I will be using on the Blackmagic as well as sometimes using it on a boom recording into a H4n. I was planning to wait for the rode videomic NTG but it's not out yet here in the UK and I need a mic for an upcoming shoot. I was just interested because the audio sounded really good with all the mics you'd tested straight into the blackmagic but good to hear that I'm not doing something wrong in camera. Thanks for the response!
Thanks Joe. Note that you’ll need a TRS cable to make the D3 Pro recognize and work with the P6K.