I enjoy the friendship arc that Legolas and Gimli have in Lord of the Rings. They go from barely tolerating each other to being ready to die side by side as friends.
@@ShinGallon The main difference is that Frodo and Sam were already friends at the start, even if that relationship got strained at times along the way. Legolas and Gimli didn't start out as friends, but became close over time.
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@@WriterBrandonMcNultyhello I'm a young writer that needs help with a story or novel of mine i have problems building a lore and world building for my story can you help me and do you have a discord that's we can talk I really really need your help 🤔
I love it when Sherlock Holmes challenges Watson to use his method of deduction. It also means Holmes believes Watson is capable of more, than perhaps he realizes and urges the doctor to adapt his logic. Watson also brings out the best of Holmes and keeps him "in check" so to say.
Woody and Buzz (Toy Story) Remy and Linguini (Ratatouille) Genie, Aladdin, and Magic Carpet Dr. Strange and his cloak/cape I specifically love how in tune Strange is with his cloak. The cloak chose him as its master and its always willing to protect Strange from harm or aid him in battle. The filmmakers said the cloak was inspired by the magic carpet.
This came at the perfect time. I just decided to stop imagining my novel and start writing it. The novel is heavily focused on the relationships between the characters, so this will be a great help. Thank you, Brandon!
@@lilaclaza I am currently working on chapter nine (out of eleven or twelve in total). It is a dark fantasy novel, it's narrative themed around trauma, betrayal and revenge, with a dark romance subplot all throughout the book. It features a negative character arc too, where the protagonist falls from grace, and gives into her inner demons, going from good to evil due to tragic events that occur in the book as, well as due to innate in-born traits that set them on her path to darkness and evil. I take inspiration and influences from a bunch of different sources, from The Lion King to the Star Wars Prequel movies, to Chainsaw Man, and a few others. It is still in the early discovery draft at the moment, as defined by Brandon, but I am enjoying the process, and feel passionate about this story, and aim to finish it in the autumn, and publish it next year in 2025
Raju and Bheem from RRR. They walk the path from strangers through best friends, then enemies, and best friends again. They both have hidden motives and hidden identities, endanger each other, save each other, and change each other. Also there is deep symbolism in each of them and in their actions. And they are something like Supermen. I haven't seen another film in which one of the protagonists hits an enemy with a motorcycle while using it as a club.
My favorite relationship is probably Joel and Clementine from "Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind". Joel is introvert, while Clementine is extrovert. Their relationship quickly becomes toxic and they break up. What I like about it is how the two people can still like and love each other, but simply being unable to live together. It's a very good movie
I think my favorite is the one you hinted at but didn't fully talk about, and that's between Harry Potter and Severus Snape. The whole series you're being led to believe a total lie that in the end is completely reversed. A character you hate through the whole series completely redeems himself. How it ended with him naming one of his children after him was especially touching.
Man.. I don’t think you even realize how MUCH I needed this video. I was literally getting writers block and struggled with this section of my novel. THANK YOUUUU🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️
Favourite characters relationship? So many to choose. Michael and Vito Corleone in The Godfather, Salieri and Mozart in Amadeus. I'd even add, to be original, Don Giovanni and Leporello in Don Giovanni. It genuinely inspired me a hero-sidekick relationship in my own stories.
Great video love the concepts will help me out a great deal. I think my favorite character relationship is from the Sting with Paul Newman and Robert Redford. A great movie that won Oscar for Best Picture. Robert Redford is a young con man who is arrogant but has great talent and Paul Newman is the savvy experienced con man. The duo is top notch. Highly recommend seeing that movie. I’m a fan of old movies
I rarely see movies myself. But, I do enjoy reading books. So. I could not really relate. However, it seems Stephen is working on a novel at the moment. Is that your first novel or do you have some past published books?
A new one from a movie I recently watched: Knox Goes Away. There’s lots of meaning and values in the relationship between John Knox and his son Miles Knox.
my favorite character relationship is the relationship between john snow and tyrion lannister. they both respect each other. they almost trust each other but they both seek two different purposes.
This video reminds me of how I enjoy the different character relationships and interactions cause character change in GoT, namely Arya and Tywin and Jon Snow and all of his mentors through the first couple seasons
There is one aspect of story telling I would like you to cover: hidden implications in endings. Where everyone thinks that a story ended one way, then they started thinking about the ending, and realized that the ending is wildly different than what they thought. Whiplash is the perfect example of this: everyone thought that protagonist Andrew Nieman had one at the end, then we all started thinking, and we realized that antagonist Terence Fletcher won.
I love the relationship between Asuka Ryo and Fudo Akira in the 1972 manga by Go Nagai 'Devilman'. the way they oppose eachothers beliefs yet are fundamentally the same is really interesting to me. the love they share in the story and the light and dark within that love was really impactful to me.
I'm just about to finish the manuscript of my first book and for my first revision (apart from fixing the logic holes) i wanna focus on my character relationships so this gave me a few things to think about.
I would like to direct your attention to the movie The birds by Alfred Hitchcock. While this movie is typically touted as some kind of cross between thriller and horror. The movie really hinges on the relationships between the main characters - Melanie, Mitch, and Mitch’s mother. There’s a lot of, antagonism in the very beginning of each of these relationships, and even some secondary relationships with secondary characters such as Mitch’s little sister and former romantic relationship play into the primary relationships. So while on the surface, everything is meant to be focused on this weird mysterious bird attacks, the real beauty of the story and the movie come from a deep inspection of those relationships in the course of this harrowing and mysterious experience.
One of the best videos you have done. The information was great, well laid out and I'm hungry for more. Also, it has got me interested in looking at one of your books. BTW, talking about the latter, are they in audiobook format, since reading is difficult, due to my progressing eyesight loss?
My dark fantasy novel i am currently working on features a romance subplot, specifically a bisexual love triangle, which ends with both the love interests being killed off in the third act, one of which by the protagonist herself. My MC is basically a female Anakin Skywalker, with similar characterization and a similar negative character arc. I want my book to highlight the issue of male victims and female perpetrators, with the protagonist, who is female, being the purpetrater, albeit in a very subtle way. The anime 'Chainsaw Man' does this very well in my opinion, which is where i took notes from. I want my protagonist to ve the sort of character you see on The Vile Eye channel's 'Analysing Evil' series.
Someone just told me to check out Chainsaw Man. I enjoyed the first couple arcs of Fire Punch, so I'll have to check out CM as well. Best of luck with your story btw!
@@unicorntomboy9736 oh, that makes sense. This means you've published some books in the past, but they are not under your name. This is the first personal project to be published under your name fully as a legal right. Do you a website that anyone can look up to or something similar?
The main characters in my graphic novel have a pretty basic "annoying to friends" arc, but it was fun working into the plot. When they first meet, Nails immediately likes Ravani because he's a kobold and she thinks he's adorable, which Ravani takes offense to, but over the story they both repeatedly save each other's lives and by the end Ravani regards her as a friend and someone he trusts (which is not something he does easily). It's nothing amazing, but for something intentionally pulp-Conan inspired it suffices. My main concern is if it comes accross to the reader as much as it does me because unlike me, these characters don't live in the reader's head, so I know them intimately and I question if I did my job in making the reader know and care about them. I get a lot of positive feedback, though, so I must have done something right.
Yes, you've done something right. I've not read your book yet, but from your writeup, I can tell that you have a good sense of writing, and I can really understand what you've said. Is this your first book?
@@awe_ebenezer Thanks! It is my first book (of about 4 planned for these characters), I'm doing art revisions on it currently and will hopefully find a publisher in the coming months.
Whilst I really disliked JD Salinger's Catcher in the Rye because I found Holden as a main character moaned and whinged too much I will give it this Holden's relationship with his dead young brother Allie Caufield was great and very touching.
The two relationships that instantly come to mind as favorites are Ryland and Rocky from Project Hail Mary and Carl and Donut from the Dungeon Crawler Carl series. Funnily enough, they’re both friendships between a human and non-human. What does that say about me?
I have a lot of favorites, but here's my current one: Hazbin Hotel: Lucifer and Alastor. Their dynamic is the funniest thing I've seen in years. Both men want to maintain their relationship with Charlie. Both of them have an ulterior goal in doing it. Lucifer wants to rekindle his relationship with his daughter and impress her. Alastor wants to maintain manipulative control over Charlie to further his own agenda. What ends up happening is both men trying to present himself as a better father figure to Charlie, starting from petty verbal jabs and slights, to using their respective powers to illustrate what they have to offer, before outright turning on each other in increasingly dangerous ways that might have ended with one hospitalized or worse if they weren't interrupted. The kicker? Alastor, the manipulator and token evil teammate of the Hazbin Hotel's residents, ultimately has the better argument, because even though he's openly voiced he doesn't believe in Charlie's cause and is only here because the concept entertains him, he's also been the one actually helping her run things despite it, while Lucifer has been MIA. This forces Lucifer to confront the fact that he could very well lose his place in Charlie's life if the literal Evil Overlord is giving her what she actually needs. What's even more interesting is during Lucifer's duet with Charlie, a quick shot shows Alastor with a content smile as he watches them interact, which begs the question of whether or not Alastor's antagonistic tendencies in the beginning were a stealth ploy to get Lucifer's head out of his ass and support his daughter, if this was an unwitting, but favorable outcome for a grander scheme down the road, or if Alastor's legitimately just enjoying the moment before going back to his usual caustic self. Only time will tell, seeing as at the time of this writing, we only have one season, but I just need more of these two pissing each other off and getting some character development on either side through it.
The greatest relationship arc I’ve seen in cinema is Cap and Tony’s over the course of the Avengers/Civil War movies. They both have lies about the other in the first Avengers, and by Endgame they both overcome those lies
I’d go further than that- the two men ultimately learn important lessons from the other. I don’t think the Tony Stark we meet in Iron Man 1, or even as late as by the start of Age of Ultron was truly ready to make a sacrifice play with no chance of escape if it was for the greater good like he needed to be to do the Snap at the end of Endgame. Steve’s courage and consistently challenging Tony to become more heroic (and providing an example of what that heroism looks like) helped shape Tony into the hero he became, and that resonates through their stories. In simplest terms, Steve taught Tony how to be selfless. Similarly, while perhaps not as big picture important as teaching Tony heroism and selflessness, Tony teaches Steve how being a little selfish now and then gives life (and by extension, the sacrificing of life) meaning, ultimately leading Steve to decide to stay in the past and have the life he always wanted with Peggy at the end of Endgame. Neither man ends the story the way they did without the other showing them a better way forward than what they knew before, and that it ultimately mirrors the change in the other makes it all the stronger storytelling. I don’t know if it is the absolute best, but it is definitely one that doesn’t get enough credit for how nuanced it actually is.
good will hunting was a really grate move normally i don't go for movies fulled with lots of cussing i watched long time ago but it stuck with me as a reminder just because some is a jerk doesn't they want to be that away it could be hiding so many other things
My favorite relationship comes from my favorite movie. The relationship between Sidney Falco and J.J. Hunsecker in Sweet Smell of Success is parasitic, co-dependant (at least on Falco’s side) and completely antagonistic. Hunsecker uses and abuses Falco and Falco, with his obsession to get to where Hunsecker is, takes the abuse and comes back for more.
Can you talk about a glimpse of difference between novel genres. There seems to be a rise in face slapping novel genre so can you throw some light on it? Thanks
I love how we keep Han's arc as a positive one, ending with the original trilogy. The sequels undoing his character arc was one of the biggest failures of the sequel trilogy.
Hey, Brandon. for your next video, can u talk about writing locations settings, cuz i don't know how to make up a location (non fantasy) and i dont want to use real life location while doxxing myself or something.
i think youve done videos on this before. but im struggling with writing engaging scenes that are not hype. im great at action but fall flat on other types of scenes. im not sure what im missing. its a structural thing im missing
I’m writing a story about how a group of teenage warriors who don’t know each other at must band together to combat an ancient evil ..it’s up too my main protag to bring them together and lead them but I’m having the hardest time trying to figure out how they’re going to bond and be and become ride or die comrades ..all the warriors are powerful in there own right and have no out right reason to follow my protag..brotherhood is the central theme of the story ..pls any advice ?
@@awe_ebenezer plus I’m havin a hard time making my protag special ..like his bloodline makes him special ..but combat special abilities and backstory wise he seem kinda dull compared to the others ..like my side characters seem cooler to me
@luechmillionz oh, great one. What about having a website now, building your brand through it with time till your book is published. Is that part of your plan?
I'd say the answer lies in the "long-term", at least for me. I met my best friend when we were little kids, 21 years ago. She noticed when I started pushing people away before I even realized what I was doing or why. She knows me too well. Sometimes, if she feels I'm trying to push her away, she just scolds me and stays close, lol. But that's because we've known each other almost our whole lives. We wouldn't be friends if I met her now, as adults.
Snape and Harry is one of my least favorite character relationships. Their relationship never really changes. From the very first day they encounter each other Snape hates Harry and never grows and gets over his hatred, even after seeing into Harry's memories of the many horrible things that happen to him when they do occlumency lessons. While the ending of the series reveals him as a false enemy, there was a huge missed opportunity to have them grow in respect for each other or for Snape to see Harry's mother's nature reflected in Harry's sefless actions. It would have made Snape's "betrayal" so much more poigniant. The way it's written Snape is just a very smart teacher who loves the dark arts and bullies his students, only helping people when it has to do with his love for Lily.
I believe that the fact that you've watched more of his contents to this point and concluded that he will always use movies in his video should mean that you're not new to this channel and that some of his content might have helped you in some ways. True/False? Also, you fail to commend him for how he's helped you, but rather, you focus on your disadvantage and blame him for it.
Most of my favourite books don't have powerful relationships. The one that comes to mind is the one between Peter Grant and Lesley May, initially both London police constables with magical powers. They start as friends and colleagues. There is a suggestion that they might become more. Then she betrays and almost kills him. They continue to clash, but there remains a strange respect and almost friendship that is certainly doomed.
Good Will Hunting is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's truly a masterpiece. I always felt that way even when I first saw it many years ago, but when I rewatched it a couple years ago as a parent and a pediatrician, the movie hits in an entirely different way. The fact that it can has so many angles it can hit you shows how truly great the movie is.
Gonna take a weird one- Joel and Clementine in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Part of what I like about this is that we see several different incarnations of the relationship in the movie, including their first relationship together and how it ended badly, the way Joel remembers their relationship between that end and the beginning of his procedure, the way his idealized version of her and he interact as they find a place to hide in his memories, he and Clementine forming a second relationship with no knowledge of the first, and then finally the prospect of what their relationship will be once they both have knowledge that there was a previous relationship that they both independently chose to permanently forget.
Seabiscuit has amazing character relationships, especially between Howard and Pollard. They're a son in search of a father and a father who didn't realize he needed a son and to be a father again. They heal each other's hearts. It's a damn good movie, too, if you haven't seen it recently or not at all.
Oh man, I remember seeing Seabiscuit in theaters back in '03. I was too young to appreciate it, but I remember loving the ending (and William H. Macy's comic relief segments)
@@JohnnyWordSmith There are haunting images that exist and great actors can create them through silence. If you're into the painful looks of class-based isolation through servitude then it's dope as fuck. Otherwise...
Lonesome Dove: Gus and Call They are so different in personality and outlook but are bound together by their sense of loyalty, shared experiences, and respect for one another’s abilities.
My favorite relationship is that between Dalinar and Kaladin in The Way of Kings. They do not meet for most of the book, but Dalinar is a nobleman and military general struggling to find honorable followers to help save the kingdom, while Kaladin is a wrongfully imprisoned soldier struggling to find an honorable leader. By the end of the story, they each find what they are searching for in each other.
One of my favorites is Peter and Roman's friendship in Hemlock Grove. At the very end it ended tragically, which sucked, but it was great while it lasted.
Honestly I really do love Harry Potter's relationship with Snape. SPOILERS: He was his ally all along, but he treated him like crap because he really did hate him for reasons that make a lot of sense. So he was always willing to do what was right by the boy, but was never happy about it. It's easy to see how Harry thought he was his mortal enemy, and I think Snape used that to his advantage as part of his plan. And at the end Harry forgave him and named one of his kids after him.
You always deliver such easy to digest tips. I'm repeatedly leaving your videos with newfound motivation. I want to use these tips in my next project. Thanks again, mate, and keep up the great work!
Brandon, this is a great video. Thank you! I wonder, how would you go about showing the milestones of a relationship changing? A few in-between scenes of interaction? A large number? Include introspection from the main character? An issue that I find effects me often is that I get some really great tips on x, y, or z, but no specifics or concrete examples, so I feel like I flounder with implementation
I like the relationship between charackters in John Jakes' north and south trilogy. Its about how friendship can survive the harshest times even if you are on different sides of a conflict. AND about how you can be on the same side of the conflict and antagonistic whatsoever
A big part of the Star Wars sequels is that they destroy or derail the character arcs of the original films in a dissatisfying way. This is a problem with other sequels as well, but is especially noticeable in SW
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I enjoy the friendship arc that Legolas and Gimli have in Lord of the Rings. They go from barely tolerating each other to being ready to die side by side as friends.
Everyone talks about the bromance between Frodo and Sam (and it IS iconic, to be sure) but Legolas and Gimli becoming best friends is goated.
@@ShinGallon The main difference is that Frodo and Sam were already friends at the start, even if that relationship got strained at times along the way. Legolas and Gimli didn't start out as friends, but became close over time.
My book literally focuses on a couple trying to rekindle their failing marriage before they get divorced. This video could not be more relevant.
Thrilled to hear it. Best of luck with your writing!
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To anyone reading this, please repent and believe the gospel! There is a loving God who wants to know you and save you. Jesus died on the cross and resurrected so we can be forgiven of our sins and be saved. Please consider the state of your soul. Believe in Jesus and follow Him so you may have salvation. Life is short, please make the right choice today!
Yea the timing on these type of educational videos seem to always have perfect timing lol
@@Mykal06Wtf bro
@@WriterBrandonMcNultyhello I'm a young writer that needs help with a story or novel of mine i have problems building a lore and world building for my story can you help me and do you have a discord that's we can talk I really really need your help 🤔
I love it when Sherlock Holmes challenges Watson to use his method of deduction. It also means Holmes believes Watson is capable of more, than perhaps he realizes and urges the doctor to adapt his logic. Watson also brings out the best of Holmes and keeps him "in check" so to say.
Woody and Buzz (Toy Story)
Remy and Linguini (Ratatouille)
Genie, Aladdin, and Magic Carpet
Dr. Strange and his cloak/cape
I specifically love how in tune Strange is with his cloak. The cloak chose him as its master and its always willing to protect Strange from harm or aid him in battle. The filmmakers said the cloak was inspired by the magic carpet.
This came at the perfect time. I just decided to stop imagining my novel and start writing it. The novel is heavily focused on the relationships between the characters, so this will be a great help. Thank you, Brandon!
Same here, although I am 80% done writing my novel draft
Nice--best of luck!
@unicorntomboy9736 that sounds amazing. Congratulations! What's it about if you don't mind my asking?
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty thank you!
@@lilaclaza I am currently working on chapter nine (out of eleven or twelve in total). It is a dark fantasy novel, it's narrative themed around trauma, betrayal and revenge, with a dark romance subplot all throughout the book. It features a negative character arc too, where the protagonist falls from grace, and gives into her inner demons, going from good to evil due to tragic events that occur in the book as, well as due to innate in-born traits that set them on her path to darkness and evil.
I take inspiration and influences from a bunch of different sources, from The Lion King to the Star Wars Prequel movies, to Chainsaw Man, and a few others.
It is still in the early discovery draft at the moment, as defined by Brandon, but I am enjoying the process, and feel passionate about this story, and aim to finish it in the autumn, and publish it next year in 2025
My favorite character and relationships? Will Hunting. Excellent choice to examine. My favorite movie
My favorite relationship in a story would probably be Samwise Gamgee and Frodo Baggins.
Top tier friendship
You can include Gollum as an antagonistic relationship. Frodo can go in Sam or Gollum way.
Raju and Bheem from RRR. They walk the path from strangers through best friends, then enemies, and best friends again. They both have hidden motives and hidden identities, endanger each other, save each other, and change each other. Also there is deep symbolism in each of them and in their actions. And they are something like Supermen. I haven't seen another film in which one of the protagonists hits an enemy with a motorcycle while using it as a club.
My favorite relationship is probably Joel and Clementine from "Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind". Joel is introvert, while Clementine is extrovert. Their relationship quickly becomes toxic and they break up. What I like about it is how the two people can still like and love each other, but simply being unable to live together. It's a very good movie
I think my favorite is the one you hinted at but didn't fully talk about, and that's between Harry Potter and Severus Snape. The whole series you're being led to believe a total lie that in the end is completely reversed. A character you hate through the whole series completely redeems himself. How it ended with him naming one of his children after him was especially touching.
"Of course I'm alive! You twit!" severus snape. (How it should have ended.)
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Man.. I don’t think you even realize how MUCH I needed this video. I was literally getting writers block and struggled with this section of my novel. THANK YOUUUU🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️
Wow, That's amazing that you can now get over your writers block. However, is this your first book?
J.J. Abrams should watch this video. . . . over and over again
Don’t forget Rian (Ruin) Johnson 😬
Haahaha
@@Garek_George Watch Knives Out and tell me with a straight face Rian Johnson doesn't understand character relationships, I dare you.
@@ShinGallon Watch The Last Jedi and tell me the same thing 😬
@@Garek_George That movie also had good character relationships, so I'm not sure what your point is.
Favorite relationship right now (this changes pretty often): Wall-E and EVE.
Favourite characters relationship? So many to choose. Michael and Vito Corleone in The Godfather, Salieri and Mozart in Amadeus. I'd even add, to be original, Don Giovanni and Leporello in Don Giovanni. It genuinely inspired me a hero-sidekick relationship in my own stories.
Great video love the concepts will help me out a great deal. I think my favorite character relationship is from the Sting with Paul Newman and Robert Redford. A great movie that won Oscar for Best Picture. Robert Redford is a young con man who is arrogant but has great talent and Paul Newman is the savvy experienced con man. The duo is top notch. Highly recommend seeing that movie. I’m a fan of old movies
I need to see the Sting. Heard so many good things about it. My dad raves about it anytime Paul Newman gets mentioned
The Sting is a great movie, as is Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (the first time Newman and Redford worked together).
I rarely see movies myself. But, I do enjoy reading books. So. I could not really relate. However, it seems Stephen is working on a novel at the moment. Is that your first novel or do you have some past published books?
A fun and recent one I remember would be Din Djarin and Grogu from the Mandalorian 😊😊
A new one from a movie I recently watched: Knox Goes Away. There’s lots of meaning and values in the relationship between John Knox and his son Miles Knox.
my favorite character relationship is the relationship between john snow and tyrion lannister. they both respect each other. they almost trust each other but they both seek two different purposes.
If you have more to say about the concept of false enemies, I'd be very interested in watching a video on the subject.
Are you working on a book at the moment concerning that?
This video reminds me of how I enjoy the different character relationships and interactions cause character change in GoT, namely Arya and Tywin and Jon Snow and all of his mentors through the first couple seasons
I wish I could wrap my head around the relationships in Fight Club. What a weird three-way.
I loved the main relationship(s) in Kill Your Darlings. Also the first SAW
There is one aspect of story telling I would like you to cover: hidden implications in endings. Where everyone thinks that a story ended one way, then they started thinking about the ending, and realized that the ending is wildly different than what they thought.
Whiplash is the perfect example of this: everyone thought that protagonist Andrew Nieman had one at the end, then we all started thinking, and we realized that antagonist Terence Fletcher won.
+1
I love the relationship between Asuka Ryo and Fudo Akira in the 1972 manga by Go Nagai 'Devilman'. the way they oppose eachothers beliefs yet are fundamentally the same is really interesting to me. the love they share in the story and the light and dark within that love was really impactful to me.
Zack Snyder should totally watch this video
Hahahaha!
I'm just about to finish the manuscript of my first book and for my first revision (apart from fixing the logic holes) i wanna focus on my character relationships so this gave me a few things to think about.
Ike and Buddy Lee from Razorblade Tears. ❤ Great video as always.
Thanks!
I would like to direct your attention to the movie The birds by Alfred Hitchcock. While this movie is typically touted as some kind of cross between thriller and horror. The movie really hinges on the relationships between the main characters - Melanie, Mitch, and Mitch’s mother. There’s a lot of, antagonism in the very beginning of each of these relationships, and even some secondary relationships with secondary characters such as Mitch’s little sister and former romantic relationship play into the primary relationships. So while on the surface, everything is meant to be focused on this weird mysterious bird attacks, the real beauty of the story and the movie come from a deep inspection of those relationships in the course of this harrowing and mysterious experience.
What's your favorite character relationship from a story? Let us know!
I particularly enjoy the relationship between Zuko and Iroh from Avatar: The Last Airbender
VI and Jinx from Arcane (Although I despise Vi)
Jim Hawkins and Long John Silver from Treasure Planet.
@@lilaclazaNgl every character relationship from Avatar is goated.
Probably Andy and Red from the Shawshank Redemption. And Han and Luke from Star wars
One of the best videos you have done. The information was great, well laid out and I'm hungry for more. Also, it has got me interested in looking at one of your books. BTW, talking about the latter, are they in audiobook format, since reading is difficult, due to my progressing eyesight loss?
My dark fantasy novel i am currently working on features a romance subplot, specifically a bisexual love triangle, which ends with both the love interests being killed off in the third act, one of which by the protagonist herself. My MC is basically a female Anakin Skywalker, with similar characterization and a similar negative character arc.
I want my book to highlight the issue of male victims and female perpetrators, with the protagonist, who is female, being the purpetrater, albeit in a very subtle way. The anime 'Chainsaw Man' does this very well in my opinion, which is where i took notes from.
I want my protagonist to ve the sort of character you see on The Vile Eye channel's 'Analysing Evil' series.
Someone just told me to check out Chainsaw Man. I enjoyed the first couple arcs of Fire Punch, so I'll have to check out CM as well. Best of luck with your story btw!
Wow, makes sense. Is this Dark fantasy novel your first novel? Have you published some books in the past?
@@unicorntomboy9736 oh, that makes sense. This means you've published some books in the past, but they are not under your name. This is the first personal project to be published under your name fully as a legal right.
Do you a website that anyone can look up to or something similar?
The main characters in my graphic novel have a pretty basic "annoying to friends" arc, but it was fun working into the plot. When they first meet, Nails immediately likes Ravani because he's a kobold and she thinks he's adorable, which Ravani takes offense to, but over the story they both repeatedly save each other's lives and by the end Ravani regards her as a friend and someone he trusts (which is not something he does easily).
It's nothing amazing, but for something intentionally pulp-Conan inspired it suffices. My main concern is if it comes accross to the reader as much as it does me because unlike me, these characters don't live in the reader's head, so I know them intimately and I question if I did my job in making the reader know and care about them. I get a lot of positive feedback, though, so I must have done something right.
Yes, you've done something right. I've not read your book yet, but from your writeup, I can tell that you have a good sense of writing, and I can really understand what you've said. Is this your first book?
@@awe_ebenezer Thanks! It is my first book (of about 4 planned for these characters), I'm doing art revisions on it currently and will hopefully find a publisher in the coming months.
I don't think Chuckie rejects Will, I think he just pushes him to be something "more".
Whilst I really disliked JD Salinger's Catcher in the Rye because I found Holden as a main character moaned and whinged too much I will give it this Holden's relationship with his dead young brother Allie Caufield was great and very touching.
My personal favorite character relationship is between Andrew Nieman and Terence Fletcher.
great work
+ how making video about how to use fan service in good way in stories ? I think it will be interesting idea
The two relationships that instantly come to mind as favorites are Ryland and Rocky from Project Hail Mary and Carl and Donut from the Dungeon Crawler Carl series. Funnily enough, they’re both friendships between a human and non-human. What does that say about me?
I have a lot of favorites, but here's my current one:
Hazbin Hotel: Lucifer and Alastor. Their dynamic is the funniest thing I've seen in years. Both men want to maintain their relationship with Charlie. Both of them have an ulterior goal in doing it.
Lucifer wants to rekindle his relationship with his daughter and impress her. Alastor wants to maintain manipulative control over Charlie to further his own agenda.
What ends up happening is both men trying to present himself as a better father figure to Charlie, starting from petty verbal jabs and slights, to using their respective powers to illustrate what they have to offer, before outright turning on each other in increasingly dangerous ways that might have ended with one hospitalized or worse if they weren't interrupted.
The kicker? Alastor, the manipulator and token evil teammate of the Hazbin Hotel's residents, ultimately has the better argument, because even though he's openly voiced he doesn't believe in Charlie's cause and is only here because the concept entertains him, he's also been the one actually helping her run things despite it, while Lucifer has been MIA.
This forces Lucifer to confront the fact that he could very well lose his place in Charlie's life if the literal Evil Overlord is giving her what she actually needs.
What's even more interesting is during Lucifer's duet with Charlie, a quick shot shows Alastor with a content smile as he watches them interact, which begs the question of whether or not Alastor's antagonistic tendencies in the beginning were a stealth ploy to get Lucifer's head out of his ass and support his daughter, if this was an unwitting, but favorable outcome for a grander scheme down the road, or if Alastor's legitimately just enjoying the moment before going back to his usual caustic self.
Only time will tell, seeing as at the time of this writing, we only have one season, but I just need more of these two pissing each other off and getting some character development on either side through it.
The greatest relationship arc I’ve seen in cinema is Cap and Tony’s over the course of the Avengers/Civil War movies. They both have lies about the other in the first Avengers, and by Endgame they both overcome those lies
I’d go further than that- the two men ultimately learn important lessons from the other.
I don’t think the Tony Stark we meet in Iron Man 1, or even as late as by the start of Age of Ultron was truly ready to make a sacrifice play with no chance of escape if it was for the greater good like he needed to be to do the Snap at the end of Endgame. Steve’s courage and consistently challenging Tony to become more heroic (and providing an example of what that heroism looks like) helped shape Tony into the hero he became, and that resonates through their stories. In simplest terms, Steve taught Tony how to be selfless.
Similarly, while perhaps not as big picture important as teaching Tony heroism and selflessness, Tony teaches Steve how being a little selfish now and then gives life (and by extension, the sacrificing of life) meaning, ultimately leading Steve to decide to stay in the past and have the life he always wanted with Peggy at the end of Endgame.
Neither man ends the story the way they did without the other showing them a better way forward than what they knew before, and that it ultimately mirrors the change in the other makes it all the stronger storytelling.
I don’t know if it is the absolute best, but it is definitely one that doesn’t get enough credit for how nuanced it actually is.
Uzi and N of Murder Drones.
good will hunting was a really grate move normally i don't go for movies fulled with lots of cussing i watched long time ago but it stuck with me as a reminder just because some is a jerk doesn't they want to be that away it could be hiding so many other things
Can you also please make a video on subtext in storytelling?
My favorite relationship comes from my favorite movie. The relationship between Sidney Falco and J.J. Hunsecker in Sweet Smell of Success is parasitic, co-dependant (at least on Falco’s side) and completely antagonistic. Hunsecker uses and abuses Falco and Falco, with his obsession to get to where Hunsecker is, takes the abuse and comes back for more.
Can you talk about a glimpse of difference between novel genres. There seems to be a rise in face slapping novel genre so can you throw some light on it? Thanks
I love how we keep Han's arc as a positive one, ending with the original trilogy. The sequels undoing his character arc was one of the biggest failures of the sequel trilogy.
Hey, Brandon. for your next video, can u talk about writing locations settings, cuz i don't know how to make up a location (non fantasy) and i dont want to use real life location while doxxing myself or something.
i think youve done videos on this before. but im struggling with writing engaging scenes that are not hype. im great at action but fall flat on other types of scenes. im not sure what im missing. its a structural thing im missing
I’m writing a story about how a group of teenage warriors who don’t know each other at must band together to combat an ancient evil ..it’s up too my main protag to bring them together and lead them but I’m having the hardest time trying to figure out how they’re going to bond and be and become ride or die comrades ..all the warriors are powerful in there own right and have no out right reason to follow my protag..brotherhood is the central theme of the story ..pls any advice ?
Hmm, you've had an amazing storyline. However, is this your first book, like your debut, when it it will be published?
@@awe_ebenezer yea first book.. it’ll be published whenever I get it done I guess lol
@@awe_ebenezer plus I’m havin a hard time making my protag special ..like his bloodline makes him special ..but combat special abilities and backstory wise he seem kinda dull compared to the others ..like my side characters seem cooler to me
@luechmillionz oh, great one. What about having a website now, building your brand through it with time till your book is published. Is that part of your plan?
@@awe_ebenezer no didn’t know that was a thing. I’m new to this . Didn’t decide to study story telling til about two years ago
Thelma and Luise
After this movie, Will tried Law School, but it was not his thing. So, he used his intelligence to become a professional poker player.
How does a person who constantly pushes people away have a long-term best friend?
I'd say the answer lies in the "long-term", at least for me. I met my best friend when we were little kids, 21 years ago. She noticed when I started pushing people away before I even realized what I was doing or why. She knows me too well. Sometimes, if she feels I'm trying to push her away, she just scolds me and stays close, lol. But that's because we've known each other almost our whole lives. We wouldn't be friends if I met her now, as adults.
Snape and Harry is one of my least favorite character relationships. Their relationship never really changes. From the very first day they encounter each other Snape hates Harry and never grows and gets over his hatred, even after seeing into Harry's memories of the many horrible things that happen to him when they do occlumency lessons. While the ending of the series reveals him as a false enemy, there was a huge missed opportunity to have them grow in respect for each other or for Snape to see Harry's mother's nature reflected in Harry's sefless actions. It would have made Snape's "betrayal" so much more poigniant. The way it's written Snape is just a very smart teacher who loves the dark arts and bullies his students, only helping people when it has to do with his love for Lily.
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Wish you wouldn't keep using films as examples! Really annoying.
Then stop watching this channel! We are 144K liking what he does, you're the only one complaining...
I believe that the fact that you've watched more of his contents to this point and concluded that he will always use movies in his video should mean that you're not new to this channel and that some of his content might have helped you in some ways. True/False? Also, you fail to commend him for how he's helped you, but rather, you focus on your disadvantage and blame him for it.
Most of my favourite books don't have powerful relationships. The one that comes to mind is the one between Peter Grant and Lesley May, initially both London police constables with magical powers. They start as friends and colleagues. There is a suggestion that they might become more. Then she betrays and almost kills him. They continue to clash, but there remains a strange respect and almost friendship that is certainly doomed.
Good Will Hunting is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's truly a masterpiece. I always felt that way even when I first saw it many years ago, but when I rewatched it a couple years ago as a parent and a pediatrician, the movie hits in an entirely different way. The fact that it can has so many angles it can hit you shows how truly great the movie is.
Gonna take a weird one- Joel and Clementine in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Part of what I like about this is that we see several different incarnations of the relationship in the movie, including their first relationship together and how it ended badly, the way Joel remembers their relationship between that end and the beginning of his procedure, the way his idealized version of her and he interact as they find a place to hide in his memories, he and Clementine forming a second relationship with no knowledge of the first, and then finally the prospect of what their relationship will be once they both have knowledge that there was a previous relationship that they both independently chose to permanently forget.
Pick any two characters from Battlestar Galactica. The whole show is a masterclass in character studies
Seabiscuit has amazing character relationships, especially between Howard and Pollard. They're a son in search of a father and a father who didn't realize he needed a son and to be a father again. They heal each other's hearts. It's a damn good movie, too, if you haven't seen it recently or not at all.
Oh man, I remember seeing Seabiscuit in theaters back in '03. I was too young to appreciate it, but I remember loving the ending (and William H. Macy's comic relief segments)
Remains of the Day, Sid and Nancy. But come on, the closing line of Casablanca seals the deal
I read Remains of the Day, how’s the movie?
@@JohnnyWordSmith There are haunting images that exist and great actors can create them through silence. If you're into the painful looks of class-based isolation through servitude then it's dope as fuck. Otherwise...
Lonesome Dove: Gus and Call
They are so different in personality and outlook but are bound together by their sense of loyalty, shared experiences, and respect for one another’s abilities.
Your channel is amazing ❤
Thanks!
My favorite relationship is that between Dalinar and Kaladin in The Way of Kings. They do not meet for most of the book, but Dalinar is a nobleman and military general struggling to find honorable followers to help save the kingdom, while Kaladin is a wrongfully imprisoned soldier struggling to find an honorable leader. By the end of the story, they each find what they are searching for in each other.
One of my favorites is Peter and Roman's friendship in Hemlock Grove. At the very end it ended tragically, which sucked, but it was great while it lasted.
Honestly I really do love Harry Potter's relationship with Snape.
SPOILERS:
He was his ally all along, but he treated him like crap because he really did hate him for reasons that make a lot of sense. So he was always willing to do what was right by the boy, but was never happy about it. It's easy to see how Harry thought he was his mortal enemy, and I think Snape used that to his advantage as part of his plan. And at the end Harry forgave him and named one of his kids after him.
You always deliver such easy to digest tips. I'm repeatedly leaving your videos with newfound motivation.
I want to use these tips in my next project. Thanks again, mate, and keep up the great work!
One of my favorites relationships in a movie is Ed in Deliverance and his relationship to Lewis, Drew, and Bobby.
Brandon, this is a great video. Thank you! I wonder, how would you go about showing the milestones of a relationship changing? A few in-between scenes of interaction? A large number? Include introspection from the main character?
An issue that I find effects me often is that I get some really great tips on x, y, or z, but no specifics or concrete examples, so I feel like I flounder with implementation
I like the relationship between charackters in John Jakes' north and south trilogy. Its about how friendship can survive the harshest times even if you are on different sides of a conflict. AND about how you can be on the same side of the conflict and antagonistic whatsoever
Favorite character relationship: Det Ed Holloway and Fr Adam Sinclair in The Eighth Sacrament
Perfect timing!! ❤❤
Glad to help!
A big part of the Star Wars sequels is that they destroy or derail the character arcs of the original films in a dissatisfying way. This is a problem with other sequels as well, but is especially noticeable in SW
I do like Anakin Skywalker's negative arc in the prequel movies, when at the end he becomes Darth Vader
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