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  • Thousands of workers in Southern Pakistan spend their lives mining and cooking limestone. The process releases plumes of toxic smoke, polluting the environment and poisoning workers.
    00:00 - Introduction
    01:20 - Setting up dynamite
    02:18 - Explosion
    02:40 - Work injuries
    03:35 - Mining permits
    04:12 - Building the kiln
    05:17 - Feeding the furnace
    06:36 - Wages and income
    07:58 - Breaking down kiln
    08:37 - How limestone is used
    09:36 - Environmental impact
    10:15 - Parvez at home
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  • @gordonpasha3126
    @gordonpasha3126 6 місяців тому +465

    I come from a family that has been doing this work for 200 years in Italy. They are only 100 years behind us. I am an explosives expert, in that quarry they prepare mines as they did in Europe 150 years ago. the last accident involving a mine built like this in my city dates back to 1895.
    Here too the miners worked barefoot

    • @shabirkamran5399
      @shabirkamran5399 6 місяців тому +62

      Italy got rid of its dictators however in Pakistan we are still under Military Junta who are strangling any progress prospects for the country.

    • @gordonpasha3126
      @gordonpasha3126 6 місяців тому +44

      @@shabirkamran5399 it's not a question of dictators, the only dictator we had in Italy was Mussolini after 1921, when industries began to spread in Italy. Construction techniques do not evolve because no one invests money in production activities. In Italy it happened when the nobility who possessed money preferred to continue exploiting the large estates rather than encouraging industries.
      In Pakistan I think the same thing happens, human lives yield less than agricultural investments

    • @thedemolisher1181
      @thedemolisher1181 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@gordonpasha3126 Not every mine is like this. This area specifically is a backward area. The provincial government didnt do much for the province so it is under developed. Military actually improved our situation.

    • @gordonpasha3126
      @gordonpasha3126 6 місяців тому +11

      @@thedemolisher1181 I'm sure of it, in the background you can see a perfectly asphalted motorway viaduct, crossed by vehicles. To build a public work like this, lime kiln technology is not enough

    • @dr-rexmangrca113
      @dr-rexmangrca113 6 місяців тому +5

      I. Saw photos of mining in Sicily...the men were nake because of heat underground ... Yep no clothes

  • @PrimarchX
    @PrimarchX 6 місяців тому +458

    Been doing it all his life, but the old man "is not trained to use gunpowder". I'd say the apparent presence of all his digits and living to a ripe old age refutes that statement.

    • @fordhuguley8699
      @fordhuguley8699 6 місяців тому +50

      No trust me there is a difference between being properly trained with explosives And learning from experience, he has all his fingers but I bet you he knows plenty that don’t.

    • @PrimarchX
      @PrimarchX 6 місяців тому +49

      @@fordhuguley8699 I guess I'm overreacting to the hyperbole that he has no knowledge yet has been doing it all his life. Practical knowledge is a thing and I'm sure he's doing more than blindly shoveling grains of black powder down a hole then hoping for the best. I think what the producers are angling toward is more like Western certification, training and safety standards. Obviously these are not factors in this part of Pakistan.

    • @jamesraymond1158
      @jamesraymond1158 6 місяців тому +16

      I suspect no one in Pakistan wears steel-tipped boots, (which would have saved his foot.) Same for gloves or eye protection.

    • @clownworld3913
      @clownworld3913 6 місяців тому +10

      These types of video always play up the danger. Extremely this, extremely that and then we end up with "A mine collapse in 2014 killed two people"

    • @skeetsmcgrew3282
      @skeetsmcgrew3282 6 місяців тому +15

      @@clownworld3913 I remember once this channel talked about someone working with "toxic rust." You'd have to eat like a shovel full of pure rust to get sick, it is an extremely low toxicity. A shame they feel the need to exaggerate when things are already this bad

  • @tookitogo
    @tookitogo 6 місяців тому +50

    This video keeps saying “limestone” when in fact referring to two different things: limestone (the unbaked rock from the quarry), and lime (the product created by baking limestone). They’re not the same thing, and their dangers are very different.

    • @kraptastic333
      @kraptastic333 Місяць тому

      Is any of this for cement production? What is the major use of cooked limestone/lime?

    • @Pattern51lover
      @Pattern51lover Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for the clarification.

    • @aktan4ik
      @aktan4ik 23 дні тому +1

      Lime is a citrus fruit!

  • @stevep5408
    @stevep5408 6 місяців тому +217

    Farmers had hand stacked limestone kilns built into natural dirt banks. They burned limestone, then slaked the lime, it turned into mostly powder which they used on their fields to increase harvests. That was the 1700s.

    • @RagingDong
      @RagingDong 6 місяців тому +10

      There is a limestone kiln in my village, last used 1890s.

    • @ronmoore6598
      @ronmoore6598 6 місяців тому +10

      Young people today are terrified of work.

    • @RagingDong
      @RagingDong 6 місяців тому +22

      @@ronmoore6598 We live in social welfare states, harder you work, more you get robbed.

    • @declangraham1864
      @declangraham1864 6 місяців тому +5

      @@ronmoore6598A saying as old as time itself! 😂

    • @zna9297
      @zna9297 6 місяців тому

      @@declangraham1864go dig a hole

  • @franktrask1264
    @franktrask1264 6 місяців тому +228

    What we are seeing here is ignoring the Industrial Revolution. I have spent a good portion of my life in the lime industry as both an executive and an owner. The rock could easily be broken with a medium sized hydraulic excavator, and kilns of this nature are commonly run on a set cycle. Proper fuel would also make a difference. The heavy black smoke is an indication of wanton waste of energy. Some kilns Ike this were run in Australia up until the end of the depression. There are a few that have run in recent years making so called specialty lime. Unfortunaly soft and crumbling limestone like this does not repond to modern kilns very well.

    • @Zahrul3
      @Zahrul3 6 місяців тому

      To be fair many of these business are owned by politically powerful people who would rather keep conditions like this and prevent any modern plants from being built, so they get to live large like the feudal lords they are while giving absolutely no contribution to the value chain

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 6 місяців тому +1

      How much is a human life compared to machines?

    • @belakovdoj
      @belakovdoj 6 місяців тому +3

      Is it possible to use palm lives for heating in an industrial way as the only accessible fuel?

    • @skeetsmcgrew3282
      @skeetsmcgrew3282 6 місяців тому +40

      @@belakovdoj Juat constructing the kiln properly to draw oxygen in large quantities would make a big difference. This is a glorified camp fire under a pile of rocks. But when you are this poor, investing in literally anything doesn't seem worth it. Not when people's lives are seen as worthless

    • @gregoryl.levitre9759
      @gregoryl.levitre9759 6 місяців тому

      The industrial revolution brought us coal cooking and non-stick pans that cause cancer. You're delusional.

  • @LiborTinka
    @LiborTinka 6 місяців тому +239

    A good question would be why no one invests in the region to build a solid limestone mill or even quarry, especially in times of international market. Getting the answer will take you to a huge rabbit hole, touching many taboos that are not discussed or even questioned in both east and west...

    • @mortanicus5871
      @mortanicus5871 6 місяців тому +67

      You're probably right. I think what we're looking at here is a caste social system, where there are more than just financial barriers to improving one's lifestyle.

    • @95keat
      @95keat 6 місяців тому +40

      The video said the limestone industry in Pakistan only makes around half a million a year. The investment would immediately fail, that's just not enough money to support a mill.

    • @Hizbullla
      @Hizbullla 6 місяців тому +26

      Safe to say that any sort of commercialized production will leave a paper trail, and no one would be willing to trade with a company that gets their material at $2/day and subsequently have their name next to it.

    • @muhumuzaemmanuel8854
      @muhumuzaemmanuel8854 6 місяців тому +28

      In Uganda, a huge gold deposit was denied development by locals as they predicted that developing it would make them lose out on jobs. Democracy ain't really straight out here. But you have a point

    • @muhumuzaemmanuel8854
      @muhumuzaemmanuel8854 6 місяців тому +4

      @@droopy_eyes you're very right on this. It happens with every big project in uganda

  • @BluntedBaboon
    @BluntedBaboon 6 місяців тому +15

    ayy been working a USA aluminum and a steel mill for 12 years, these guys seem okay.

  • @peterwest7855
    @peterwest7855 6 місяців тому +11

    Before we start blaming; there are still similar operations like this in Northern Greece ( part of Europe), just over the border in Macedonia , I have seen them. The kilns are smaller, but fired with used tires. The workers are covered in black smoke from head to feet. In addition to the exposure to quicklime they are also exposed to arsenic and sulphur from the rubber tires. The land they have worked over is covered with black ash and waste steel wire. The Lime is mainly used to white wash houses against the summer heat.

  • @ChadWilson
    @ChadWilson 6 місяців тому +23

    Pakistan could easily bring in heavy equipment to mine and process the limestone by the ton for pennies on the pound. There is simply must be no care on the part of the government to improve the lives of these workers.

    • @bctpcp9546
      @bctpcp9546 3 місяці тому +2

      I sure this has been assessed and the grade of limestone is very poor, probably not worth mining in the first place. This aspect was not explored nor discussed in this short doc which really set about making claims about CO2 etc. Usually if there's big money to be made when it comes to quarrying limestone for cement/lime then nothing will stop a quarry being formed and rock removed until nothing left of a mountain. I've seen this all around the world, sometimes mountains disappearing for cement production. This was a low grade powdery rock almost looking oolitic.

  • @wendellsmith1349
    @wendellsmith1349 6 місяців тому +8

    @7:35 No if the price of limestone were higher you would pocket the extra and still pay them the same.

  • @AbidHussainBhatti
    @AbidHussainBhatti 6 місяців тому +34

    I am From Sindh Pakistan ,,, This City Rohri Is So Near To Me, I Know These Workers Are Very Hard Workers & They Still Lives Like This Way, But Some One Have To Do Something To Feed His/Her Family ... Thanx For Mentioning Pakistan In Your Videos

  • @Gunda0506
    @Gunda0506 6 місяців тому +44

    Poverty is a curse which nobody should have.

    • @meni_v
      @meni_v 6 місяців тому

      yeah if there had the chance to think of building a industry on in they would get rich but that gene is not working for them and the work with no shoes

    • @gene8675
      @gene8675 5 місяців тому +2

      It takes generations of hard work and a decent political situation to escape it. Most people won't sacrifice for their kids future as a tight knit society. Historically most of the world has been poor. Western civilization is becoming poor by bringing in millions more poor.

  • @randyearles1634
    @randyearles1634 6 місяців тому +38

    to say they are not trained to handle explosives is stupid. they have a lifetime of experience. I would trust them before I would trust someone straight out of a school.

    • @canadiangemstones7636
      @canadiangemstones7636 6 місяців тому +4

      You know not of what you speak.

    • @pixelpatter01
      @pixelpatter01 6 місяців тому +3

      Like tamping blackpowder in a hole with a steel rod?

    • @salvatoreshiggerino6810
      @salvatoreshiggerino6810 4 місяці тому +4

      If they were actually trained they wouldn’t be using black powder, they would be using ANFO or some other industrial blasting agent. Black powder makes absolutely no sense here.

    • @pixelpatter01
      @pixelpatter01 4 місяці тому

      I would disagree with you there; blackpowder is perfectly suitable and powerful enough to heave limestone and crack boulders. It is also simpler and cheaper to use than high explosives. If this was a huge enterprise with power equipment and pneumatic drills you could justify commercial explosives. I could speculate he used to do all his digging by hand and using blackpowder is something new for him. Just my opinion. @@salvatoreshiggerino6810

    • @longestvideoever
      @longestvideoever 26 днів тому

      Nah this is a flawed comment.

  • @Tammissa
    @Tammissa 6 місяців тому +52

    It’s so terrible that they don’t have any protective gear for them to wear. At least face masks that filter what they breath in. But I have to mention that having 7 kids isn’t a very good decision financially. Being so desperately poor then having baby after baby is like slowly destroying your family. Every extra mouth to feed takes away from the children that are already born.

    • @prophecyrat2965
      @prophecyrat2965 6 місяців тому +20

      They need more hands to help with the work too, even tho it would be less mouths to feed it also means less hands to help work and survive, been the problem of humans slave to civilization since the begining.

    • @noterrormanagement
      @noterrormanagement 6 місяців тому +9

      They NEED to have children.

    • @AhJodie
      @AhJodie 6 місяців тому +3

      I don't know what religion they are, but Catholics were against using birth control, and birth control is not easy to get in many places.... and, children are raised to help, so almost everyone can do something to bring in food.... even working in the fields to grow the food.....

    • @sandeeps2943
      @sandeeps2943 6 місяців тому

      They are not educated,they just following the custom as it were in past, people make many kids because some of them die illness , survival rates are low in past

    • @seze5931
      @seze5931 6 місяців тому

      NO THEY DONT NEED MORE KIDS.
      It looks like some people don't know but planet earth doesn't grow.
      WE LIVE ON FINITE PLANET. More kids equal more mouth to feed more resources to keep them alive , more arable land to produce food for them , more water and list go on and on. First,: stop being a religious idiot , second, try to give proper education to your kids. Third : stop breeding like a rabbit.

  • @archstanton_live
    @archstanton_live 6 місяців тому +6

    In the beginning, when the smoke is black, they are starting the kiln with old tires from the highway.

    • @archstanton_live
      @archstanton_live 6 місяців тому +1

      this moves anthropogenic detritus into the atmosphere. This helps keep the area clean

  • @jeffreysokal7264
    @jeffreysokal7264 6 місяців тому +68

    It's pretty incredible to see how much of the human species struggle to eek a meager living from the earth. Developed societies have lost touch with how much of our species live. Long overdue for an awakening.

    • @M3rVsT4H
      @M3rVsT4H 6 місяців тому +5

      It's worse than that. Developed households of the West are under the same financial stress as these guys.. Just on a grander scale. What Developed societies have lost touch with is our corporate overlords. Who now set the prices globally. These poor guys aren't competing with the guys down the road. They're competing with people who own massive machines and ships, who set the pricepoint for limestone based on volume. And care about nothing other than profits.

    • @karlscher5170
      @karlscher5170 5 місяців тому

      How about the underdeveloped primitives in their shtholes wake up and lesrn science and technology?

    • @M3rVsT4H
      @M3rVsT4H 4 місяці тому +1

      @@wbay3848 Having a laugh because I just spent way too long thinking about where I would want a 4th Summer house. lol.

    • @danielmanly4793
      @danielmanly4793 2 місяці тому

      @@M3rVsT4H Nothing like a maxed financial situation involving a home and two BMW payments to really make you feel like a miner.

    • @DeuceGenius
      @DeuceGenius Місяць тому

      Everyone is struggling.

  • @fordguy8792
    @fordguy8792 6 місяців тому +12

    What I fail to understand is why these people have so many children knowing how poor they are. That fellow at the end says he won't let the next generation work at the kilns but he hasn't the money to put them through school so they can do something else. Do they just have kids and hope for a better tomorrow?

    • @AkhaLosii-js6tl
      @AkhaLosii-js6tl 6 місяців тому +6

      Unlike developed countries people from the third world countries don't get paid social welfare benefits, the day stop working, their income dries up. Having children to look after them at old age is their social security.

    • @lmao1660
      @lmao1660 6 місяців тому +4

      In places like these children are your social security

    • @7_years_and_
      @7_years_and_ 6 місяців тому +2

      @@lmao1660 how is a social security when one is bringing more people to suffer .poverty doesn't change may be get worst

    • @onlypranav
      @onlypranav 6 місяців тому +3

      There is no guarentee how many children would survive. When you are doing something this dangerous and no money for medicine, your insurance is in numbers. As it had been the generation before. Also socially that what everyone expects. The reasons why every country in the past had higher birth rates are pretty universal - poverty, uneducated women, lack of medical care, but also (not to be discounted are) social/religious expectations which play a part here

    • @steampossum7905
      @steampossum7905 6 місяців тому +2

      @@7_years_and_ The reality is that when labor is cheap and long hours of hard work brings in too little money to live, more children means more hands to help around the home, meaning more time available that can be spent working and earning an income, and more people who can eventually start bringing money into the household themselves. And, ultimately, a guarantee to the parents that they will have someone to look after them and provide for them when they become too old or infirm to continue working.
      For people living in deep poverty without outside assistance, having a large family often eases the financial burden. Unfortunately poverty is a terrible trap and widespread exploitation guarantees it's often still not enough.

  • @potatoeoverlord9430
    @potatoeoverlord9430 6 місяців тому +7

    It's crazy that people work so hard for so little.

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 6 місяців тому

      Its crazy they are working so hard for whitewash walls.

  • @williampringle2307
    @williampringle2307 6 місяців тому +5

    This is how its been done for thousends of years(without the help of explosives for much of it) hard dangerous work. There were still kilns scattered around here in portugal in the 80s.

  • @CarsCatAliens
    @CarsCatAliens 6 місяців тому +46

    While I understand the dynamics and structure of places like this in the world, with the poorest doing the hardest,most dangerous work for almost nothing, it still saddens me that there is enormous wealth in the world, while these folks suffer. No fault of their own either. They were simply born into a poor family.

    • @user-fv1uf9bf4r
      @user-fv1uf9bf4r 6 місяців тому

      no guilt? the way your tongue turns. Of course not, they were just born in this place. but the blame lies with those who were not born in this place and did nothing to make this place more civilized. Instead of supplying weapons to conflicts, some countries could spend their money elsewhere.

    • @-saklo-2256
      @-saklo-2256 6 місяців тому +1

      Still these morons are radical believers... see what this 'poor pakistanis' are doing in UK and Europe...

    • @zteaxon7787
      @zteaxon7787 5 місяців тому

      ​@@user-fv1uf9bf4rIt is not the fault of the succesful farmer that the unsuccesful farmer has little food.
      There is enormous undeserved wealth yes. But not all wealth is undeserved. And not all poverty is the result of malice, exploitation.

    • @simonphoenix3789
      @simonphoenix3789 5 місяців тому

      There are a lot more poor people than rich and middle class people out there. And while rich and middle income people tend to have few kids, poor people tend to have far too many, so the problem always stays the same or gets worse. Its nobodies fault. The best you can hope for is that a country's wealth improves and that the government is effective enough to use some of that tax money to improve the lot of people at the bottom. You can't do away with poverty unless you do away with all wealth inequality, the best you can hope for is to make being poor less terrible.

    • @user-fv1uf9bf4r
      @user-fv1uf9bf4r 5 місяців тому +3

      @@simonphoenix3789 In kindergarten there are children of different incomes. someone can play with toys, but someone is too stupid and poor for this. The only thing you can do about it is nothing. Bravo! The earth has never seen such idiocy. Explained poverty by the number of children! When you are poor, children are all you have, this is your pension. The rich just don't need it. Can inequality still be eliminated? Let's try to help our brothers on the planet? I believe that capitalism is not the only system and not the most perfect one.

  • @LunedisTerz
    @LunedisTerz 6 місяців тому +6

    I remember me at my own childhood where we go in the landscapes in the city where no buildings are.. We digg the complete days holes and i was a little stone collector. It makes me sad.. I was in peace and think.. It would be a great job if i could do this later.. And now this.. Yeah.. Great wisdomness of this little me. I see other documentary from you.. Same stonemining but other minerals... Its all the same.. They dont earn much but do a hard job. And i have sooo much respect of your filming skill. All this as a documentary looks great and i dont have the feeling of getting brainwashed. Very rare in these days

  • @crypto1upteam750
    @crypto1upteam750 6 місяців тому +19

    Only half a million usd export, there are macdonald franchises that make more than that lol. I understand why their goverment doesnt really care about illegal mining

    • @gordonpasha3126
      @gordonpasha3126 6 місяців тому

      In the meantime they produced the atomic bomb......

  • @Invincible_joe
    @Invincible_joe 6 місяців тому +71

    "... and his 7 sons..." Problem of entire South Asia quoted in just four words.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 6 місяців тому +6

      That's silly. If they were starving, they wouldn't be having routine sex.

    • @Mcfunface
      @Mcfunface 6 місяців тому +39

      In a country with little social security or retirement programs, children are your disability insurance in old age.

    • @samelmudir
      @samelmudir 6 місяців тому +28

      each child is a wage earner. you need all the help if you're working jobs like this or in farming without heavy machinery

    • @carlesc5497
      @carlesc5497 6 місяців тому +8

      That’s what I thought. 7 sons!!!!!!!!!!

    • @bakaweeb6396
      @bakaweeb6396 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Mcfunfaceyou need to understand.. you guys are living in future while east which has been destroyed by west greed is living in past.. children are their investment .. boys earn .. so they reproduce .. they don't have education too so they don't know much about these things.. you have to understand them not criticize them while sitting in a cozy bed ...

  • @user-nf7tt2uo1r
    @user-nf7tt2uo1r Місяць тому +1

    There were thousands of these kilns across Pennsylvania up until 1900 when industrialization made them obsolete. You can still find these throughout the state. Great history that buikt the U.S.

  • @WWCephas
    @WWCephas 6 місяців тому +4

    Farming has become unpredictable. What an asinine statement. Farming is ALWAYS unpredictable.

  • @CIS101
    @CIS101 6 місяців тому +5

    I am saddened by this. I am not successful, but I am fortunate to have a decent job, and I am thankful for that.

  • @joecat916
    @joecat916 6 місяців тому +5

    When i was young and lived in the country in Pennsylvania abandoned lime kilns were common. A very old farmer said they would let the lime in rows until it rained. He said the lime would ignite and burn green and blue when it got wet. I guess after that it was safe to sell? Anyway lime is nasty stuff, but is good stuff also.

    • @GinHindew110
      @GinHindew110 6 місяців тому +1

      the lime you can buy for construction is already moistured, "hydro lime" it was called a few decades ago, but they went back to just "lime" when they realized no one was selling "dry" lime anymore
      Its still a powder and annoying, but it doesnt burn

  • @Mahira110
    @Mahira110 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanx for the information you shared ❤❤

  • @Meghnaaad
    @Meghnaaad 6 місяців тому +3

    “7 sons”, pretty much sums up their whole situation

    • @hamzaghazi
      @hamzaghazi 6 місяців тому +2

      true, family planning is needed in many parts of the world. But for these people having more children means more wokers to help earn also

  • @gabbysmith7579
    @gabbysmith7579 6 місяців тому +9

    Please tell me insider payed at least a thousand USD per person for this video
    Like the money made from UA-cam alone would have an impact insider will be just fine without it

  • @0dbm
    @0dbm 6 місяців тому +1

    That is a beautiful kiln.
    Thank you

  • @SergeantExtreme
    @SergeantExtreme 2 місяці тому

    We have these here in Wisconsin. We used to be one of America's largest lime producers. The operation has long since shut down, but the kilns are still here. If you visit Lime Kiln Park in Menomonee Falls, you can see them for yourself.

  • @Connorthorpewilliams
    @Connorthorpewilliams 6 місяців тому +14

    What’s crazy is in the uk lime kilms are part of our history and are part of history curriculum in the uk being taught to us about how 200 years ago we did similar things but these people can’t even afford the education, it’s like they are still living in the industrial revolution hundreds of years in the past just so we can keep advancing.

    • @onlypranav
      @onlypranav 6 місяців тому +5

      Agree with most of it.. but that last part. Why is it your fault that a country independent for three quarters of a century cannot develop it's markets? How is it helping you guys advance

    • @Connorthorpewilliams
      @Connorthorpewilliams 6 місяців тому +1

      essentially the market decides and dictates the price so if the main market for cement and other high end building materials are going to go into the wealthy high end countries then places like Pakistan may be independent but economically are dependent on countries like chain India and France and the uk to but the raw materials and resources as they will consume vast amounts of materials such as cement to continue "growing the economy" when all they are doing is wasting valuable resources which have been toiled away for, the same can be said for lithium and zinc.
      Personally I think its just a wrong philosophy to have in the modern day in age where we need good quality reasorses but they are running out so therefore you must make the most of the high end reasorses we have instead of wasting them for marginal gains which are blanketed with the word "growth".
      that's just my opinion though everyone else is welcome to there own.@@onlypranav

  • @ernestestrada2461
    @ernestestrada2461 6 місяців тому +4

    In industrialized countries this work is automated and uses modern equipment.
    It's sad that due to corruption their government hasn't mandated more machinery and automation.
    Poor countries face the difficult decision between abundant manpower versus investment in costly machinery and production facilities which they can't easily afford. Then they require educated people to run these machines and factories to keep them working and to maintain them.

  • @pradzee123
    @pradzee123 6 місяців тому +3

    Don't have food to eat, but has 7 sons.. priorities..

    • @AhJodie
      @AhJodie 6 місяців тому

      I don't know what religion they are, but Catholics were against using birth control, and birth control is not easy to get in many places.... and, children are raised to help, so almost everyone can do something to bring in food.... even working in the fields to grow the food.....

  • @jnak974
    @jnak974 6 місяців тому +54

    I think they’re work would be easier if someone just took the time to simplify the work load. Like bundle the palm fronds so it’s a denser form of energy that will burn longer. Build the kiln with 2 openings so you can feed the fire away from the direction the wind is blowing at, put something to leverage the pole so you don’t have to stay as close to the fire.

    • @daverobertson5352
      @daverobertson5352 6 місяців тому +12

      there is so much that is simple.I dont understand why they dont get that

    • @alanwatts8239
      @alanwatts8239 6 місяців тому

      ​@@daverobertson5352They want us to donate so they can live without working.

    • @key7817
      @key7817 6 місяців тому +2

      On your first comment, thats not how energy works, it would just realease over a longer time. These people are experts they cant read or write but if they can one thing its that job, to assume you can do better by "streamling" the process you just saw a 30 min Vid about wich they have been doing for generations is egozentric at best and razist at worst.
      Should they also go to the next walmarkt to buy power tools? =D

    • @jnak974
      @jnak974 6 місяців тому

      @@key7817 May god assist you on your journey called life. If you don’t believe a god, may your existence contribute to society in a positive way. Have a nice day.

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@daverobertson5352look at Pakistan's inbreeding statistics...

  • @willcookmakeup
    @willcookmakeup 6 місяців тому +66

    This makes me so sad they had to quit school to go work in the mine. The desparity in everyday life around the world is truly baffling and unfair

    • @johnreazin1074
      @johnreazin1074 6 місяців тому +3

      Lol

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 6 місяців тому

      Disparity*

    • @Ayesha_6I
      @Ayesha_6I 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@TheDogGoesWoof69 you're bothered enough to comment and watch a video about Pakistan??? You're clearly loosing sleep doing that darling

    • @huzifavesos
      @huzifavesos 6 місяців тому +3

      @@TheDogGoesWoof69 Indian I guess?

    • @zirzmokealot4600
      @zirzmokealot4600 6 місяців тому

      ​@@huzifavesoshindian

  • @Lok_Seva_Ayurvedic
    @Lok_Seva_Ayurvedic 6 місяців тому +3

    Maybe if all of them didn't have 7 to 10 children each

  • @CRKramics
    @CRKramics 6 місяців тому +1

    I work with ceramics and this is very sad to see. Not the kiln but the workers situation. The owner doesn't care, probably because he knows they can be replaced. 😢. Firing a kiln like that is VERY hot and difficult.

  • @DJ-bh1ju
    @DJ-bh1ju 6 місяців тому +3

    The first minute of narrative explained everything - 7 sons... didn't even bother listing the daughters (women are livestock in that part of the world).

  • @danielasif7377
    @danielasif7377 6 місяців тому +16

    Well, the man produced 7 sons to make his labour force, if he had produced maybe 2 sons, he might be able to educate them properly to acquire a better life. Above all no work is low-level work everyone has to do something.

    • @prophecyrat2965
      @prophecyrat2965 6 місяців тому

      They are the slaves of Civilizations progress, the colonial peoples did the same in America, breeding and making children to work in factories and farms.

    • @zainkhalid3670
      @zainkhalid3670 6 місяців тому +6

      He produced 7 sons so that they can all share their income and survive. They probably live together and share their kitchen to minimize costs. They are stuck in a loop they can't escape. If he did not produce any sons so that his future generation won't have to suffer then he would die of starvation at old age because he won't receive any pension or financial support.

    • @tangimeme
      @tangimeme 6 місяців тому +2

      That's not even a possible reality for so many families in situations like this let alone a probable one. For one, they often don't have conventional educations let alone zex ed, plus contraception isn't necessarily available. On top of that, it's likely that each son contributes more to the household finances than gets used on him personally, so they're probably all more likely to survive this way. I don't understand why you'd assume having less kids would have made a difference when the man earns $2 a day and doesn't have better options available. None of them want to work there, but upward social mobility is a struggle even in wealthy countries. You need to consider and really understand the complex conditions and context. There are a lot of reasons whole families get stuck in jobs where they risk their lives for a couple of bucks, but the number of kids they have probably doesn't even make the top 50 😅 This comment is already getting long, but I can tell you some of the main ones if you're curious and want to know more 🤷‍♀️

  • @marctorrades1760
    @marctorrades1760 2 місяці тому +1

    My granddad did this job in France.
    Finished dying with lungs collapsing.
    He was an immigrant looking for better life .

  • @vetrieska11
    @vetrieska11 2 місяці тому

    i remember some remains of kilns like these in Poland, also fed with wood. they were in use until about 2000 when last were abandoned. but mining limestone looked like here in 1950ies i think. Later there were excavators, drills and use on Anfo for rock blasting, as it is now.

  • @american7169
    @american7169 6 місяців тому +3

    Umm thats not "dynomite"...

  • @chuckfindlaydangershow5640
    @chuckfindlaydangershow5640 6 місяців тому +3

    just like anywhere some people just get stuck nothing new not just happening here or there it's everywhere... it's all about the choices we make people do make good ones...

  • @krakatoainc2809
    @krakatoainc2809 6 місяців тому +1

    This is a very interesting view into what the they are up to in Pakistan. These workers will be rewarded in the afterlife.

  • @sindhflood7521
    @sindhflood7521 2 місяці тому

    Excellent task very informative it's real cause 👍❤️

  • @jamesraymond1158
    @jamesraymond1158 6 місяців тому +18

    Fascinating. Expertly filmed and narrated. What are the chemical changes in limestone when it is heated? What is difference between limestone and lime? I looked it up: limestone (CaCO3) + oxygen ---> lime( Calcium oxide and calcium hydroxide)

    • @berzerius
      @berzerius 6 місяців тому +6

      Oxygen is not required .
      CaCO3+ heat = CaO+CO2
      CaO+H2O = Ca(OH)2
      Limestone releases carbon dioxide when heated and turns into Quick lime.
      Quick lime added to water makes Caustic Lime.

    • @jamesraymond1158
      @jamesraymond1158 6 місяців тому +2

      Great correction. The eqns are balanced.@@berzerius

    • @sridharmurthy1076
      @sridharmurthy1076 6 місяців тому +3

      CaO+H2O=Ca(OH)2 is known as slaked lime which can be used for white washing wall.

    • @inquisitive-
      @inquisitive- 6 місяців тому

      ​@@berzeriuswow. 1800s to early 1900s American eugenics was called cacogenics and specific families and regions were targeted and now that you gave the chemical formulas for limestone, I'd bet they were limestone workers.

  • @framusburns-hagstromiii808
    @framusburns-hagstromiii808 6 місяців тому +4

    And yet they suffer because their culture prevents them from making the necessary political changes that would eventually raise living conditions for the entire region. Choices have consequences.

  • @watduh123
    @watduh123 3 місяці тому

    Real warriors, fathers, and men. This is why when they come to other countries they are so strong and can take any jobs. I bow to them all.

  • @fajarkurniawan9434
    @fajarkurniawan9434 6 місяців тому +2

    Always like that
    They know they're poor
    But still have so many children

  • @melem7926
    @melem7926 6 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for such an informative documentary

  • @87bu11seye87
    @87bu11seye87 6 місяців тому +3

    The Parthenon is made of marble, not limestone...

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 6 місяців тому +2

      That's what I thought....then I realized that they're painting with a broad brush. Marble is metamorphic limestone. And they're also mixing concrete in with the limestone.
      So it's about miserable lives in Pakistan...not a popular chemistry lesson.

  • @hypock1
    @hypock1 Місяць тому +1

    The contributions to greenhouse gasses and polution from manual Labor kilns is a drop in the ocean compared to modern industrial mining and refining efforts

  • @muhammaduzair5384
    @muhammaduzair5384 6 місяців тому

    Amazing documentary 👍

  • @_GMP_
    @_GMP_ 6 місяців тому +3

    From where do Pakistan get its cement?
    Cement manufacturers aren't they investing in machineries & mechanising the limestone exports

    • @drekelley2352
      @drekelley2352 6 місяців тому

      That's what I was wondering. Maybe they get a kick out watching their people suffer.

    • @huzifavesos
      @huzifavesos 6 місяців тому +1

      Pakistan is self-sufficient in cement production and they have big units for that demand in real estate also. Check Pioneer Cement, Best Way Cement and Maple Cement. All of them are working with sophisticated machinery and laws. But the lime mounds shown here are just a small scale...easy earning and low labour cost measures of "Land Lords" of these backward areas in Rural Sindh Province. These Land Lords are totally illiterate themselves and don't even know what labour rights are. Believe me even if someone shows them this video, they won't even flinch a bit. Cause they don't even know what's wrong with this. That's the level of ignorance in rural areas.

  • @mrbake6933
    @mrbake6933 6 місяців тому +2

    What fascinates me is they are using no fossil fuels. This post would be longer but I’ve got to grab a latte and meet my friends to plan our next just stop oil protest.

  • @LAStars-sratS
    @LAStars-sratS Місяць тому

    I am so sorry that these people are treated so badly. Sickening.

  • @DuyPham-xd8lp
    @DuyPham-xd8lp 6 місяців тому +70

    The more I learn about the world, the more I realize every job is deadly

    • @josephmedina6403
      @josephmedina6403 6 місяців тому +1

      If the desert isn't hot enough this guy stands and works next to a °1600 fire in it

    • @mathemat3939
      @mathemat3939 6 місяців тому +18

      Its so deadly being a software engineer working from home and making 7 figures.

    • @j.marden9164
      @j.marden9164 6 місяців тому

      my thoughts exactly
      @@mathemat3939

    • @michaelkendall662
      @michaelkendall662 6 місяців тому

      I used to run a 340' long one at a processing plant to get the CO2 for injecting into the brine to bubble out Soda Ash.....our front end was 2600 degrees F and the kiln was in the Mojave Desert where the temperature in Aug could reach 130.....the byproduct quicklime has a chemical reaction with water causing enough heat to burn skin....ours was sold as an additive for Portland Cement

    • @noterrormanagement
      @noterrormanagement 6 місяців тому +9

      @@mathemat3939 Right. What a nonsensical comment.

  • @timmyteehee9490
    @timmyteehee9490 6 місяців тому +6

    I don't think a limestone kiln in pakistan has any effect on global warming
    i'd be more worried about the pollutants in the black smoke having an effect on the workers and local community.

    • @pur3_kill.
      @pur3_kill. 6 місяців тому

      There are multiple limestone kilns scattered across the south, sometimes just kilometres apart, so the amount of emissions expelled is much more than you think.

  • @jenelybdumanig4046
    @jenelybdumanig4046 6 місяців тому

    Salute to this man doinh hardwork

  • @tvismyonlyfriend
    @tvismyonlyfriend 6 місяців тому

    Some times tumours grow in the feet that were once broken it can have side effects for later on

  • @davidbowie5023
    @davidbowie5023 6 місяців тому +3

    Pakistan is a tragedy of its own self. It should have become a prosperous country, but look what's going on and considering their hardship, I can't help but questioning about this country's cycle of miseries.

    • @mogim815
      @mogim815 6 місяців тому

      indeed David Bowie, famous singer, songwriter, musician, and actor.

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 6 місяців тому +5

    Fairly typical for industry in this region.

  • @user-xd1er7sg7z
    @user-xd1er7sg7z 3 місяці тому

    I know lots of guys caught at the limestone mine for life.. New Canaan, Connecticut USA

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 Місяць тому +1

    What exactly is the health risk though aside from injuries?

  • @mwmentor
    @mwmentor 6 місяців тому +7

    It is really amazing, in a not good way, how these workers are so badly exploited and how little they are paid.

    • @xenofurmi
      @xenofurmi 6 місяців тому

      I don't think they're "exploited". It sounds like a family business where they make lime for profit. It does sounds like dangerous work, though.

  • @michaelbailey7483
    @michaelbailey7483 4 місяці тому +2

    It's hard to believe that some people in the US actually cry and say that their life is rough they have no damn clue what it's really like to suffer

  • @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883
    @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 6 місяців тому +1

    6:52
    I sold my soul to the company store.

  • @TheBic4
    @TheBic4 6 місяців тому +14

    Hard to feel bad for these people when they are in extreme poverty and get the bright idea to start a family that they never had the ability to adequately support. Don’t have kids if you can barely support yourself!!!!!

  • @salamandermo
    @salamandermo 6 місяців тому +3

    my god work and work and work and they cant even make ends meet and oh come to your boss for a loan. this is just slavery minus the whips

  • @tvviewer4500
    @tvviewer4500 6 місяців тому +1

    It’s really not even close to one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. This has been done for thousands of years

  • @whynotjustmyusername
    @whynotjustmyusername 2 місяці тому

    So what explosive is it now that they are using: dynamite, gunpowder or ammonium nitrate ("fertilizer")?

  • @orion3253
    @orion3253 6 місяців тому +8

    You're framing this story completely incorrectly. The issue isn't the job, it isn't the lack of resources or the environment, it's the lack of rule of law and the fact that these men are victims of a system of modern day slavery like so many other Pakistani men, women, and children.

  • @DeathsGarden-oz9gg
    @DeathsGarden-oz9gg 6 місяців тому +4

    They can at least put a wet cloth over there face to help reduce there problem.
    Also using gas from decaying stuff can make this way less co2.
    How well collect garbage organic stuff wood food waste in fact go to a restaurant and ask for there food waste and that can/will power your killn.

  • @thathaslage
    @thathaslage 6 місяців тому +1

    I did 10 years in a small copper alloy foundry in the US... I feel my job was just as dangerous. We do what we have to do to make the rich richer under the illusion its the only way to feel our families. Somtimes you have to walk away and risk the journey to something else. What do you have to lose but the opportunity to work like that forever?

  • @ThePete69641
    @ThePete69641 3 місяці тому

    Heart breaking that there are people out their working so dam hard and get almost nothing in return

  • @bobbycole7537
    @bobbycole7537 6 місяців тому +17

    When people struggle as individuals, but decide to have a small classroom worth of children, who will all suffer from the decisions of their parents, I lose sympathy. Life is hard, but creating your own suffering is easily avoidable.

    • @oskarjankowski5709
      @oskarjankowski5709 6 місяців тому +2

      When it is a natural instinct to procreate, unless something else overrides it then what do you do.

    • @bobbycole7537
      @bobbycole7537 6 місяців тому

      @@oskarjankowski5709 sure, I love having sex with my wife as much as the next guy, however, I also know I'm in no position to raise a small army so I got a vasectomy after my second child.

    • @mogim815
      @mogim815 6 місяців тому +6

      "poor people don't deserve sympathy, because they chose to have 7 kids" that's what happens when there's little to no access to sexual education or contraceptives; this isn't just a guy who chose to have 7 sons, this is a well documented trend that is a result of the very poverty you would supposedly sympathize with.

    • @bobbycole7537
      @bobbycole7537 6 місяців тому

      @@mogim815 It doesn't take an education to understand that having sex leads to babies, and having babies leads to financial hardship. Even monkeys understand that too many offspring will hinder the harem, or "family" so they will often desert or neglect their young.

    • @bobbycole7537
      @bobbycole7537 6 місяців тому

      @@mogim815 and another thing, I'm poor but I don't expect the world to cater to me over my decisions. Period.

  • @innerlight7018
    @innerlight7018 6 місяців тому +5

    "seven sons" - There you have the reason of poverty.

    • @AhJodie
      @AhJodie 6 місяців тому +1

      You talk like that, and your name is inner light? What?

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 6 місяців тому

      Maybe he's the inner light of basic mathematical logic. @@AhJodie

  • @peter8488
    @peter8488 6 місяців тому +1

    01:35 limestone when acid is added will dissolve and make the hole for them, too bad I don't know what materials they have around them.

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 6 місяців тому +1

    $32 per annum for a mining permit?
    I guess that indicates just how little the limestone is worth. What is a shame is that these men are doing the same work as 1,000 years ago, except with some dynamite. :( Just one man with a modest 10-ton excavator could release as much stone as 100 men in one day. Probably a lot more.
    Very sad to see the modern machine-driven economy not working for these people.

    • @siddharthgoyal4008
      @siddharthgoyal4008 6 місяців тому +1

      limestone is also heavy and honestly abundant so it's not something you can feasibly transport/export.

  • @AEVMU
    @AEVMU 6 місяців тому +4

    Why do people like this keep having kids? You think your kids that you invented, that you created, want that life? Why would you do that to someone? How selfish.

    • @AhJodie
      @AhJodie 6 місяців тому +1

      I don't know what religion they are, but Catholics were against using birth control, and birth control is not easy to get in many places.... and, children are raised to help, so almost everyone can do something to bring in food.... even working in the fields to grow the food.....

  • @WilhelmDrake
    @WilhelmDrake 6 місяців тому +3

    This is why we need government regulation and universal education and healthcare.

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 6 місяців тому +1

      It's Pakistan....the government spends all the money on the military.

  • @thisiswaytoocomplicated
    @thisiswaytoocomplicated 6 місяців тому +2

    "Cooking limestone is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world".
    But really that is only applicable to the third world. Really not an issue for the rest of the world for about a century or longer.
    But we live in one world in the same time - so something is really going wrong there.

  • @chulangjj
    @chulangjj Місяць тому

    the loss of vegetation (trees) which act as shade is one of the reason why the place is hot

  • @indianskeptic3451
    @indianskeptic3451 6 місяців тому +3

    Jinnah's dream. Thank God they separated from "fascist Hindoo Endia". They are so lucky to work in these death factories now! Iqbal ka khwaab

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 6 місяців тому

      Said Jinnah when he was polishing off some pork chops and a glass of scotch.

  • @bigslinking
    @bigslinking 6 місяців тому +5

    No MSHA awesome... those miners are so lucky to free from government bureaucrat BS. Really cool video thanks for posting.

    • @TroyMartins1984
      @TroyMartins1984 6 місяців тому +7

      Yeah because safety is so underrated right? /s

  • @josephmedina6403
    @josephmedina6403 6 місяців тому +2

    His injuries are not surprising
    Protect your feet when mining you are brave to mine hard rock like limestone without protecting your feet at least sandals my dude

    • @pur3_kill.
      @pur3_kill. 6 місяців тому

      they said it burns their feet which isn't the best alternative lol, the heat of the air in pakistan is extremely hot especially in the south and the temperatures at the kiln increase the temperature too

  • @BrownyBird
    @BrownyBird 2 місяці тому +1

    I do feel sorry for them and I wish their government was less corrupt.
    It's not fair to live that way.
    But them you see his countrymen and women living out of benefits of all kinds and complaining about EVERYTHING as asylum seekers in England and one wonder how on earth is possible that anyone can be so ungrateful!

  • @daves3259
    @daves3259 6 місяців тому +4

    Mashallah. Pakistan peoples are truly blessed!

    • @globalshiftwilton
      @globalshiftwilton 6 місяців тому

      The sarcasm just shines through you.

    • @huzifavesos
      @huzifavesos 6 місяців тому +2

      That's not even sarcasm rather a cheap and lame imitation of humour. 🙂

  • @sreetips
    @sreetips 6 місяців тому +2

    Apocalypto

  • @gavinferguson
    @gavinferguson 6 місяців тому

    Exactly the same way we did this in the 1800 and before

  • @wybuchowyukomendant
    @wybuchowyukomendant 6 місяців тому +2

    That`s a huge fail of pakistani government.

  • @johncase1353
    @johncase1353 6 місяців тому +2

    You now a 3rd world country when they are using slightly more advanced technology than the Aztecs.

  • @windrider23
    @windrider23 6 місяців тому +4

    It's amazing that Pakistan and India can afford atomic weapons. And have this level of poverty in their population. It's sickening how humans prioritize war over compassion.

    • @fahadnazir945
      @fahadnazir945 6 місяців тому

      There is saying
      Wisdom doesnot comes freely
      People of india and pakistan have not lost millions of people in world wars eurpeons have learnt his after killing millions of people

    • @quagmire4412
      @quagmire4412 6 місяців тому

      lol where is india mentioned ?

    • @sandeeps2943
      @sandeeps2943 6 місяців тому

      ​@@quagmire4412bro is only aware of poverty in india not how developed it is and a large country can have ratio in everything too

  • @chulangjj
    @chulangjj Місяць тому

    My Grad dad and Great Uncle owned a limestone quarry

  • @signalpathological3287
    @signalpathological3287 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm NOT an over sensitive social justice identity crises on two legs, BUT, this should not be permitted. Human life, and the quality of human health, should never be compromised for monetary profit. For any company to do so is heinously irresponsible!

  • @ryanroberts1104
    @ryanroberts1104 6 місяців тому +3

    Why do people like this keep having children when they know they cannot provide for them and never will? I don't have children because they are expensive and I don't like them. It's not difficult to not have them!

  • @bwdtoss
    @bwdtoss 6 місяців тому +5

    Can't feed his 7 kids huh? I see where the problem is.

    • @prophecyrat2965
      @prophecyrat2965 6 місяців тому

      Industrial Civilization and its Consequences:

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 6 місяців тому

      Industrial civilization has lowered the birthrate to below replacement. What did Kazinski say about third world birthrates? @@prophecyrat2965

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