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I bought a paperback of _The Great Controversy_ in a mall bookstore in Tallahassee, Florida in 1974. I read it in about one week. Thirty days after I finished the book I received a flier in the mail announcing a series of lectures on the Bible. The series lasted 5 weeks and at the end I was baptized. I kept noting how the evangelist echoed what I had read in the book. The Lord opened the way for me to accept our message through Mrs. White's book.
Me too. I happened upon a copy of The Great Controversy having never opened a Bible. That book convicted me, I contacted for studies and after studying was baptised. Praise God for His leading in my life. My belief has only strengthened.
I just started reading The Great Controversy and I couldn’t stop reading it. I got to the end of ch. 1. Whew so much to take in. I thank God for Ellen Whites Writings so amazing to read and unlock scriptures also learning so much about history WOW!! Praise God !! thank you Lineage for your amazing content. ❤
Praise the Lord! We are working on a new series right now where we have a short 5 minute episode for each chapter of the Great Controversy. Aiming for an April launch. 😊
Thank you brother for the video, really appreciate what you all are doing :). I am currently giving out copies of this book when I can. I don't know if all the people take the time to read it but I hope that they do. Thank God for His mercy and goodness toward us. Be faithful to the end, God bless ~
Though Satan tried to silence the witness, the Lord triumphed! May the Lord help us to be faithful to God, to cherish His word, His Spirit of Prophecy, and to share without fear or summarised versions, the Great Controversy!
This book is excellent. It is responsible for the conversion of two atheists who are well-known members of our church: David Asscherick and Sebastian Braxton. My top 3 favorite Ellen White books are Steps to Christ, Great Controversy, and Education.
Amen I learned a lot in this book the Doctrine of the Earthly Sanctuary as a pattern of Heavenly Sanctuary. The amazing biblical details described in the ministry of the work done in the Sanctuary.
And yet the conference has changed it over and over again. The latest version is called the great hope. Ted and the conference and the Jesuits has stripped away the truth that cuts so it has no power.
@@nicetry620 you must be a Jesuit. And you are so wrong on many levels. Good luck to you on Judgement day. Ellen G White is GOD'S messenger and the truth....
@@nicetry620 your listening to the infiltration of the Jesuits, Ellen G White is truth and straight from God she received all visions, knowledge, wisdom, intellect. She's God's true messenger... Who are you to deny her? All these Jesuit infiltration you and many others are of the devil and thats how satan works with people like yourself. Like I said, Goodluck on Judgement day when God gives you a lesson in trying to rebuke His messenger. You clearly have the tone of satan and clearly have no idea. Go do some Bible reading and studying and pray and fast for yourself so you can hear God properly. Last days buddy, get yourself right and stop listening to the devil.
@@nicetry620 explain why Ellen G White is the truth? Who are you to make such claims? Only satan makes claims as you do. Ellen G White is the truth and received visions, knowledge, wisdom and intellect from GOD are you claiming GOD is wrong? and His messenger was a plageriser? What if God allowed her to borrow it? Are you going to argue with GOD? so much hate I've seen over the last 20 years on EGW, that's hate from satan and his people. Good luck on Judgement day buddy.
@@nicetry620 🤦 wow, you certainly got disturbed by being called a satan follower. Your so called FACTS are all fabricated... Where's the proof? Exactly all heresy and listening to the Jesuits... Nothing at all that you've said says anything?? Were you alive at the time of Ellen G White? Did you actually see with your own eyes all these so called evidences you present actually happen? ... Let me wait.... Ummm NOOOOO You are like the rest of these Jesuit followers denying GOD'S TRUE MESSENGER 🙏 All the evidence is in the SDA realm being alive today even though your Men (Jesuits) have infiltrated the SDA realm? It's still alive? Why? Because GOD'S Almighty, Power and Glory was shown to Mrs Ellen G White.... Like I said before and I'll say again goodluck to you on Judgement day buddy.... Jesus is returning soon and very soon... 🙏
On page 136; Ellen says; Wesley says; "The moral law, contained in the Ten Commandments and enforced by the prophets, He did not take away," 3 other places the 10 C.s are mentioned as the 10 C.s; is Ex 34:28; Deut. 4:13; Deut. 10:4. Is Deut. 10:4; enforcement? Then what's up with 2 Cor. 3:7? Is this Pauls' description of the 10 C.s; and this does not seem like enforcement. And finally; does Ellen describe "Sunday" as AOK to "God"; 5 times in DA?
Some people read The Great Controversy and think it is about the protestant reformation - especially the reforms of the sixteenth, eighteenth and nineteenth centuries - and about how the concept of liberty of conscience eventually led (in the eighteenth century) to the creation of a new form of government dedicated to both religious and civil liberty. Other people read that same book and think it is about the creation, in the mid-nineteenth century, of a new religion based on the visions of a young woman. My parents and I were in the group described in the first paragraph above. Which means that my parents thought of themselves - and I still think of myself - as protestant and as patriots - not so much in the sense of being dedicated to a country or even to the present government of a country (whatever the current government may be) but dedicated to an idea - the idea that we don’t need monarchs or aristocrats or clergy to tell us what to believe and what to do. On the way home from worship services, one or the other of my parents sometimes said that no sermon was worthwhile except one that inspired us to go home and study our Bibles for ourselves. It wasn’t until 2008 that I heard people who are described by the second paragraph above say they weren’t protestants. It wasn’t until 2016 or ‘17 that I heard such people say that the United States is the antithesis of everything that is good and right. Those things, by themselves, would be significant problems but another problem is that The Great Controversy was first published in 1888 - a time when the majority of United States citizens not only abhorred popery but taught their children to do the same. The Great Controversy can be understood as a warning about what may happen if protestants fail to inculcate protestant principles - and the ideals enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution - from one generation to the next. One of the basic doctrines of the papacy is that laity cannot determine the meaning of Scripture without someone with spiritual authority to explain it to them - and that spiritual authority is obtained only through ordination by the hierarchy of a religious organization. It seems to me that most of the people who subscribe to the five solae, if they have pondered those principles enough to think they are worth promoting, would benefit from reading The Great Controversy. (Please search the Internet under “the five solae” if you don't know what they are.) On the other hand, if you live in a part of the world (as my wife and I do) where most people don’t even know what the five solae are, most of your neighbors would benefit more from reading Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing (first published in 1896), Desire of Ages (first published in 1898) or Christ’s Object Lessons (first published in 1900). If you haven’t recently, please read those books again and let us know which of them would be most likely to help a non-Christin fall in love with Jesus. Of the books Ellen White had written up until 1888, The Great Controversy may very well have been the book that would have done the most good for the highest number of the adventists’ neighbors in the late 1880s or in the 1890s. Most of our neighbors in the twenty-first century, however, not only don’t have the perspective of the majority of U.S. citizens of the nineteenth century and are thus not capable of appreciating that book, there is significant danger that, if they read it, they will misunderstand - and thus misrepresent - the message of that book. One of the principles of Bible interpretation employed by the adventists of the nineteenth century was that some (mabe even most) prophecies are conditional. What do you think you would have done if you had been a resident of Nineveh when Jonah was preaching that Nineveh would be destroyed? Do you think you would have left town to avoid being destroyed along with the city? Or do you think you would have repented and urged your neighbors to repent so as to avert the disaster? If you had been alive after forty days had passed and the city wasn’t destroyed, would you have said that Jonah was a false prophet? Or would you have complained to God that he had failed to keep his promise? If you interpret The Great Controversy the way many adventists do, do you think we have a responsibility to at least try to teach people the principles of religious liberty as inculcated in that book so as to mitigate or postpone the events you expect to occur? Or do you pray every day that those events will occur as soon as possible so you can say, “I told you so.”
Your going all over the place. Read "Spirit of Prophecy" that is one of EGW'S hidden gems combined with The Great Controversy all pointing to the Bible will prepare you for whats coming ahead. The Papal power is much more than one realises. The Jesuits infiltrating the sda realm after EGW passed have changed the path. Heading towards Rome. Jesus is at the door waiting his soon return people need to be ready.
"alfredtameifuna" is completely clueless about what he's talking about 😏.... Let's take a look at what he is completely clueless about 👇👇👇 SDA THEOLOGICAL CONFERENCE: "The time has come to be critical of our own method. We as Seventh-day Adventists have felt secure in that we have got the revealed truth; and no matter what others may say against us, we have God on our side and the prophet, Ellen G. White. Now we are discovering that much of what she wrote is "Desire of Ages" and "Great Controversy" was copied from others. How do we really know what we claim to know? We are thus forced to ask questions on matters of interpretation.... It is a historical fact that most of the bright lights that have left our church have left because of the authority assigned to the writings of Ellen White." Earl W. Amundson, "Authority and Conflict - Consensus and Unity" (Paper presented at Theological Consultation, Glacier View Ranch, Ward, CO, 15-20 August 1980) pp. 12,16
@@nicetry620 It may be, of course, that you were addressing your comment to someone else than me. Assuming, however, that your comment was intended for me, it seems you are accusing me of a) ignoring “facts” or b) misrepresenting something. In the case of a) above, what facts? In the case of b) above, would you be willing to write out and post your version of what you think I’m misrepresenting?
Her writings were more then the pages of the Holy Bible. Where does she fit in, why is she needed? We have the Bible. Plus God's Holy Spirit, that was given to us at pentacost.
Hi Jennifer, We have been admonished in 1Thessalonians 5:19-21 "Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil." So Paul expected prophesying to go on to the end of this world at which time it would cease. In 1Corinthians 13:8-10 We read: Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophesies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away." In verse 13 of the Chapter, we read: And now abideth (remains) faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. In Matthew 24 Jesus warned His disciples and by extension us to guard against FALSE prophets which would be common in the times preceding His second coming. He did Not say there would only be false prophets but by saying there would be false prophets he was implying that THERE WOULD BE TRUE ones also. Because of the great amount of deception we would encounter Jesus in mercy gave us the prophetic gift to help us navigate these MOST DECEPTIVE TIMES. True He promised us the gift of the Holy Spirit upon leaving for heaven. But even that gift is now and has for a long time been misunderstood. There are many deceptions existing surrounding that subject. As the great apostasy from doctrinal purity of the Christian Church has gone on the Church has become more and more deluded. But the Bible speaks "of restitution of all things which God hast spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began." (Acts 3:22) Restoring truth before Jesus' coming. And this is where Sis. White's prophetic gift comes in. God in His tremendous mercy decided we needed some extra help in restoring truth; understanding the Scriptures because of the dense spiritual darkness in the world and in the Church. This was prophesied. The restoration of truth--all truth at the end times started out with the Millerite Movement which turned out to be a great disappointment. But it resulted in earnest Bible Study and Prayer and the discovery of Bible truths that were lost by the way, especially during the Dark Ages also called the Middle Ages, when people were forbidden to own or even to read their Bibles. Many were martyrs for their faith. Right after the Millerite period, Ellen White received the prophetic gift manifested in so many ways, tested by many prominent church people, physicians and others as authentic. She passed the test of a true prophet including the fruitage of her ministry which includes: She was one of the founders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. She was a prolific writer whose writings have circulated the globe and have impacted the world in the fields of education, medicine, health/temperance, science, Bible prophesy and doctrines, home and family life, money management. Her counsels have established schools and colleges around the world, publishing houses, hospitals clinics and sanitariums. Why does her work matter? For me as for our Church, her writings are helpful to understanding some things, especially principles undergirding many Bible truths which for me I would not ever have thought of but when I read what she said I knew she had to be inspired to think of it. The report of her personal life was that of a consistent Christian woman prolific of good works. She was kind, helpful, charitable; she, like Jesus, went about doing good. Her charitable works included for the elderly indigent and for orphans; for the sick, discouraged and destitute. As Paul Harvey said, Ellen White, you don't know her, then get to know her. You'll be glad you did. Hope this is helpful. Just read her little book Steps to Christ for yourself and see what you think. Blessings!
@@edithdotson5617 What do you think the GC would do with a new prophet would arise today? They will not allow it. Because they are a 'brand' a product, a 501c3 company. The church doesn't exactly believe what they preach, unless it fits their narritive.
She is needed because God GAVE HER VISIONS... Obviously you haven't researched her? She fits in because she is TRUTH from GOD.... Her writings point to the Bible and the Bible alone. She's GOD'S true messenger, not a prophet. Don't be following the Jesuits Matt 7:13-14.
"alfredtameifuna"....you are talking about research 🤔, ok let's do that👇👇👇 Let's see how god's so-called messenger copied from others and lied about it.. READ CAREFULLY 🧐👇 SDA THEOLOGICAL CONFERENCE: "The time has come to be critical of our own method. We as Seventh-day Adventists have felt secure in that we have got the revealed truth; and no matter what others may say against us, we have God on our side and the prophet, Ellen G. White. Now we are discovering that much of what she wrote is "Desire of Ages" and "Great Controversy" was copied from others. How do we really know what we claim to know? We are thus forced to ask questions on matters of interpretation.... It is a historical fact that most of the bright lights that have left our church have left because of the authority assigned to the writings of Ellen White." Earl W. Amundson, "Authority and Conflict - Consensus and Unity" (Paper presented at Theological Consultation, Glacier View Ranch, Ward, CO, 15-20 August 1980) pp. 12,16
The Great Controversy Between Christ and His Angels, and Satan and His Angels." CHAPTER 1 The Fall of Satan The Lord has shown me that Satan was once an honored angel in heaven, next to Jesus Christ. His countenance was mild, expressive of happiness like the other angels. His forehead was high and broad, and showed great intelligence. His form was perfect. He had noble, majestic bearing. And I saw that when God said to his Son, Let us make man in our image, Satan was jealous of Jesus. He wished to be consulted concerning the formation of man. He was filled with envy, jealousy and hatred. He wished to be the highest in heaven, next to God, and receive the highest honors. Until this time all heaven was in order, harmony and perfect subjection to the government of God. First Edition of The Great Controversy 1858 Published by James White
Revelation 12:17-> And the Dragon was wroth with the woman,and went to make war with The Remnant of her seed, which keep the Commandments of God,and have the testimony of Jesus Christ ..☝️
Once i saw the focus on a false prophet i knew this channel was in error Ellen white isn’t a prophet of the Lord of Host She at best can be a servant inly and to actually take her writings equal to tye word of God os blaspheme I pray that all who think she is equal to the men of God who were actual prophets and actually called to convey the word of God for the kingdom, repent - repent . God bless those who reject any false prophets
Hello It's glad you have recognized her as a servant of God. The debate should not be on whether she is a prophet or not. Why not spare time and read any of her writing currently on the Ellen white estate app? After which you can comfortably and confidently decide whether her writing are from God or not? Let's test every spirit, before judging.
@@STARTINGPOINTSOLUTIONFOUNDATIO any sec I would spend reading another persons interpretation of the word of God is a sec wasted forever. I choose to seek God thru his word and his word alone which the Holy Spirit is faithful to quicken the spirit and to reveal the hidden mana. The person who you recommend to read has a heart which is desperately wicked and brings no additional value, or additional revelation, if she isn't preaching Christ Crucified, the Gospel then what is the point? She doesn't have some special knowledge of scripture. It is an insult to read from her writing as if it is equivalent to the inspired word of God, the scriptures, even if all she is doing is repeating the scripture and its clear meaning. Just nonsense.
@@alfredtameifuna8928 You must be a troll who's completely clueless and scared to read the official SDA statements of beliefs... Specifically fundamental belief #18. But of course you have prove that you are a troll who comments then runs from a grown debate based on facts through sources
To find out more information about the Great Controversy book please read our extended article.
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Get rid of the drums in the intro
I bought a paperback of _The Great Controversy_ in a mall bookstore in Tallahassee, Florida in 1974. I read it in about one week. Thirty days after I finished the book I received a flier in the mail announcing a series of lectures on the Bible. The series lasted 5 weeks and at the end I was baptized. I kept noting how the evangelist echoed what I had read in the book. The Lord opened the way for me to accept our message through Mrs. White's book.
Amen. Praise the Lord, Brother!
Me too. I happened upon a copy of The Great Controversy having never opened a Bible. That book convicted me, I contacted for studies and after studying was baptised. Praise God for His leading in my life. My belief has only strengthened.
I read The Great Controversy and it started my journey on studying God's word and wanting to become a Seventh Day Adventist.
God bless you.
I just started reading The Great Controversy and I couldn’t stop reading it. I got to the end of ch. 1. Whew so much to take in. I thank God for Ellen Whites Writings so amazing to read and unlock scriptures also learning so much about history WOW!! Praise God !! thank you Lineage for your amazing content. ❤
Praise the Lord! We are working on a new series right now where we have a short 5 minute episode for each chapter of the Great Controversy. Aiming for an April launch. 😊
I can’t wait to see it! Love your work 😊
@@LineageJourneyyes please the great controversy is something all Christianss need to know
Thank you brother for the video, really appreciate what you all are doing :). I am currently giving out copies of this book when I can. I don't know if all the people take the time to read it but I hope that they do. Thank God for His mercy and goodness toward us. Be faithful to the end, God bless ~
Amen, I had shared the same during camp meeting, am glad to see the scenes where this took place, be blessed.
This is powerful. May we go through any suffering in order to give the message that God has given us!
Though Satan tried to silence the witness, the Lord triumphed! May the Lord help us to be faithful to God, to cherish His word, His Spirit of Prophecy, and to share without fear or summarised versions, the Great Controversy!
This book is excellent. It is responsible for the conversion of two atheists who are well-known members of our church: David Asscherick and Sebastian Braxton.
My top 3 favorite Ellen White books are Steps to Christ, Great Controversy, and Education.
Not the Great Hope; It's The Great Controversy.
Very informative & motivating. Praise GOD!
Amen I learned a lot in this book the Doctrine of the Earthly Sanctuary as a pattern of Heavenly Sanctuary. The amazing biblical details described in the ministry of the work done in the Sanctuary.
And yet the conference has changed it over and over again. The latest version is called the great hope. Ted and the conference and the Jesuits has stripped away the truth that cuts so it has no power.
Bible is the best
Thanks for the interesting episodes about Ellen White's life and writings. Blessings.
Amen!
I read one of her books and impressed me so much that inspired me to become a Seventh-day Adventist.
@@nicetry620 you must be a Jesuit. And you are so wrong on many levels. Good luck to you on Judgement day.
Ellen G White is GOD'S messenger and the truth....
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That's what I thought 😏🤫🤐
@@nicetry620 your listening to the infiltration of the Jesuits, Ellen G White is truth and straight from God she received all visions, knowledge, wisdom, intellect. She's God's true messenger... Who are you to deny her? All these Jesuit infiltration you and many others are of the devil and thats how satan works with people like yourself.
Like I said, Goodluck on Judgement day when God gives you a lesson in trying to rebuke His messenger. You clearly have the tone of satan and clearly have no idea.
Go do some Bible reading and studying and pray and fast for yourself so you can hear God properly. Last days buddy, get yourself right and stop listening to the devil.
@@nicetry620 explain why Ellen G White is the truth? Who are you to make such claims? Only satan makes claims as you do.
Ellen G White is the truth and received visions, knowledge, wisdom and intellect from GOD are you claiming GOD is wrong? and His messenger was a plageriser?
What if God allowed her to borrow it? Are you going to argue with GOD? so much hate I've seen over the last 20 years on EGW, that's hate from satan and his people.
Good luck on Judgement day buddy.
@@nicetry620 🤦 wow, you certainly got disturbed by being called a satan follower. Your so called FACTS are all fabricated... Where's the proof? Exactly all heresy and listening to the Jesuits...
Nothing at all that you've said says anything?? Were you alive at the time of Ellen G White? Did you actually see with your own eyes all these so called evidences you present actually happen? ... Let me wait.... Ummm NOOOOO
You are like the rest of these Jesuit followers denying GOD'S TRUE MESSENGER 🙏 All the evidence is in the SDA realm being alive today even though your Men (Jesuits) have infiltrated the SDA realm? It's still alive? Why? Because GOD'S Almighty, Power and Glory was shown to Mrs Ellen G White....
Like I said before and I'll say again goodluck to you on Judgement day buddy.... Jesus is returning soon and very soon... 🙏
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On page 136; Ellen says; Wesley says; "The moral law, contained in the Ten Commandments and enforced by the prophets, He did not take away," 3 other places the 10 C.s are mentioned as the 10 C.s; is Ex 34:28; Deut. 4:13; Deut. 10:4. Is Deut. 10:4; enforcement?
Then what's up with 2 Cor. 3:7? Is this Pauls' description of the 10 C.s; and this does not seem like enforcement.
And finally; does Ellen describe "Sunday" as AOK to "God"; 5 times in DA?
Praise God!
Amen
Some people read The Great Controversy and think it is about the protestant reformation - especially the reforms of the sixteenth, eighteenth and nineteenth centuries - and about how the concept of liberty of conscience eventually led (in the eighteenth century) to the creation of a new form of government dedicated to both religious and civil liberty.
Other people read that same book and think it is about the creation, in the mid-nineteenth century, of a new religion based on the visions of a young woman.
My parents and I were in the group described in the first paragraph above. Which means that my parents thought of themselves - and I still think of myself - as protestant and as patriots - not so much in the sense of being dedicated to a country or even to the present government of a country (whatever the current government may be) but dedicated to an idea - the idea that we don’t need monarchs or aristocrats or clergy to tell us what to believe and what to do. On the way home from worship services, one or the other of my parents sometimes said that no sermon was worthwhile except one that inspired us to go home and study our Bibles for ourselves.
It wasn’t until 2008 that I heard people who are described by the second paragraph above say they weren’t protestants. It wasn’t until 2016 or ‘17 that I heard such people say that the United States is the antithesis of everything that is good and right.
Those things, by themselves, would be significant problems but another problem is that The Great Controversy was first published in 1888 - a time when the majority of United States citizens not only abhorred popery but taught their children to do the same. The Great Controversy can be understood as a warning about what may happen if protestants fail to inculcate protestant principles - and the ideals enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution - from one generation to the next.
One of the basic doctrines of the papacy is that laity cannot determine the meaning of Scripture without someone with spiritual authority to explain it to them - and that spiritual authority is obtained only through ordination by the hierarchy of a religious organization.
It seems to me that most of the people who subscribe to the five solae, if they have pondered those principles enough to think they are worth promoting, would benefit from reading The Great Controversy. (Please search the Internet under “the five solae” if you don't know what they are.)
On the other hand, if you live in a part of the world (as my wife and I do) where most people don’t even know what the five solae are, most of your neighbors would benefit more from reading Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing (first published in 1896), Desire of Ages (first published in 1898) or Christ’s Object Lessons (first published in 1900). If you haven’t recently, please read those books again and let us know which of them would be most likely to help a non-Christin fall in love with Jesus.
Of the books Ellen White had written up until 1888, The Great Controversy may very well have been the book that would have done the most good for the highest number of the adventists’ neighbors in the late 1880s or in the 1890s.
Most of our neighbors in the twenty-first century, however, not only don’t have the perspective of the majority of U.S. citizens of the nineteenth century and are thus not capable of appreciating that book, there is significant danger that, if they read it, they will misunderstand - and thus misrepresent - the message of that book.
One of the principles of Bible interpretation employed by the adventists of the nineteenth century was that some (mabe even most) prophecies are conditional. What do you think you would have done if you had been a resident of Nineveh when Jonah was preaching that Nineveh would be destroyed? Do you think you would have left town to avoid being destroyed along with the city? Or do you think you would have repented and urged your neighbors to repent so as to avert the disaster?
If you had been alive after forty days had passed and the city wasn’t destroyed, would you have said that Jonah was a false prophet? Or would you have complained to God that he had failed to keep his promise?
If you interpret The Great Controversy the way many adventists do, do you think we have a responsibility to at least try to teach people the principles of religious liberty as inculcated in that book so as to mitigate or postpone the events you expect to occur? Or do you pray every day that those events will occur as soon as possible so you can say, “I told you so.”
Your going all over the place. Read "Spirit of Prophecy" that is one of EGW'S hidden gems combined with The Great Controversy all pointing to the Bible will prepare you for whats coming ahead.
The Papal power is much more than one realises. The Jesuits infiltrating the sda realm after EGW passed have changed the path. Heading towards Rome.
Jesus is at the door waiting his soon return people need to be ready.
"alfredtameifuna" is completely clueless about what he's talking about 😏....
Let's take a look at what he is completely clueless about 👇👇👇
SDA THEOLOGICAL CONFERENCE:
"The time has come to be critical of our own method. We as Seventh-day Adventists have felt secure in that we have got the revealed truth; and no matter what others may say against us, we have God on our side and the prophet, Ellen G. White. Now we are discovering that much of what she wrote is "Desire of Ages" and "Great Controversy" was copied from others. How do we really know what we claim to know? We are thus forced to ask questions on matters of interpretation.... It is a historical fact that most of the bright lights that have left our church have left because of the authority assigned to the writings of Ellen White." Earl W. Amundson, "Authority and Conflict - Consensus and Unity" (Paper presented at Theological Consultation, Glacier View Ranch, Ward, CO, 15-20 August 1980) pp. 12,16
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"alfredtameifuna" I'm agitated (supposedly), and your running scared from having a grown up discussion based on facts.
That's right 😏🤫😁
@@nicetry620 It may be, of course, that you were addressing your comment to someone else than me. Assuming, however, that your comment was intended for me, it seems you are accusing me of a) ignoring “facts” or b) misrepresenting something.
In the case of a) above, what facts?
In the case of b) above, would you be willing to write out and post your version of what you think I’m misrepresenting?
Ellen White did not see nor report of that un-seen, un-paying guest on that train. It was just added by the narrators as they imagined.
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Her writings were more then the pages of the Holy Bible. Where does she fit in, why is she needed? We have the Bible. Plus God's Holy Spirit, that was given to us at pentacost.
Hi Jennifer, We have been admonished in 1Thessalonians 5:19-21 "Despise not prophesyings.
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil."
So Paul expected prophesying to go on to the end of this world at which time it would cease.
In 1Corinthians 13:8-10 We read:
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophesies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
For we know in part, and prophesy in part.
But when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away."
In verse 13 of the Chapter, we read:
And now abideth (remains) faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
In Matthew 24 Jesus warned His disciples and by extension us to guard against FALSE prophets which would be common in the times preceding His second coming. He did Not say there would only be false prophets but by saying there would be false prophets he was implying that THERE WOULD BE TRUE ones also.
Because of the great amount of deception we would encounter Jesus in mercy gave us the prophetic gift to help us navigate these MOST DECEPTIVE TIMES.
True He promised us the gift of the Holy Spirit upon leaving for heaven. But even that gift is now and has for a long time been misunderstood. There are many deceptions existing surrounding that subject.
As the great apostasy from doctrinal purity of the Christian Church has gone on the Church has become more and more deluded. But the Bible speaks "of restitution of all things which God hast spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began." (Acts 3:22) Restoring truth before Jesus' coming.
And this is where Sis. White's prophetic gift comes in. God in His tremendous mercy decided we needed some extra help in restoring truth; understanding the Scriptures because of the dense spiritual darkness in the world and in the Church. This was prophesied. The restoration of truth--all truth at the end times started out with the Millerite Movement which turned out to be a great disappointment. But it resulted in earnest Bible Study and Prayer and the discovery of Bible truths that were lost by the way, especially during the Dark Ages also called the Middle Ages, when people were forbidden to own or even to read their Bibles. Many were martyrs for their faith.
Right after the Millerite period, Ellen White received the prophetic gift manifested in so many ways, tested by many prominent church people, physicians and others as authentic.
She passed the test of a true prophet including the fruitage of her ministry which includes:
She was one of the founders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. She was a prolific writer whose writings have circulated the globe and have impacted the world in the fields of education, medicine, health/temperance, science, Bible prophesy and doctrines, home and family life, money management. Her counsels have established schools and colleges around the world, publishing houses, hospitals clinics and sanitariums.
Why does her work matter? For me as for our Church, her writings are helpful to understanding some things, especially principles undergirding many Bible truths which for me I would not ever have thought of but when I read what she said I knew she had to be inspired to think of it.
The report of her personal life was that of a consistent Christian woman prolific of good works. She was kind, helpful, charitable; she, like Jesus, went about doing good. Her charitable works included for the elderly indigent and for orphans; for the sick, discouraged and destitute.
As Paul Harvey said, Ellen White, you don't know her, then get to know her. You'll be glad you did. Hope this is helpful. Just read her little book Steps to Christ for yourself and see what you think. Blessings!
@@edithdotson5617 What do you think the GC would do with a new prophet would arise today? They will not allow it. Because they are a 'brand' a product, a 501c3 company. The church doesn't exactly believe what they preach, unless it fits their narritive.
She is needed because God GAVE HER VISIONS... Obviously you haven't researched her?
She fits in because she is TRUTH from GOD.... Her writings point to the Bible and the Bible alone. She's GOD'S true messenger, not a prophet.
Don't be following the Jesuits Matt 7:13-14.
"alfredtameifuna"....you are talking about research 🤔, ok let's do that👇👇👇
Let's see how god's so-called messenger copied from others and lied about it..
READ CAREFULLY 🧐👇
SDA THEOLOGICAL CONFERENCE:
"The time has come to be critical of our own method. We as Seventh-day Adventists have felt secure in that we have got the revealed truth; and no matter what others may say against us, we have God on our side and the prophet, Ellen G. White. Now we are discovering that much of what she wrote is "Desire of Ages" and "Great Controversy" was copied from others. How do we really know what we claim to know? We are thus forced to ask questions on matters of interpretation.... It is a historical fact that most of the bright lights that have left our church have left because of the authority assigned to the writings of Ellen White." Earl W. Amundson, "Authority and Conflict - Consensus and Unity" (Paper presented at Theological Consultation, Glacier View Ranch, Ward, CO, 15-20 August 1980) pp. 12,16
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Another troll exposed 😏🤫🤐.... moving on🥱
The Great Controversy
Between
Christ and His Angels,
and
Satan and His Angels."
CHAPTER 1
The Fall of Satan
The Lord has shown me that Satan was once an honored angel in heaven, next to Jesus Christ. His countenance was mild, expressive of happiness like the other angels. His forehead was high and broad, and showed great intelligence. His form was perfect. He had noble, majestic bearing. And I saw that when God said to his Son, Let us make man in our image, Satan was jealous of Jesus. He wished to be consulted concerning the formation of man. He was filled with envy, jealousy and hatred. He wished to be the highest in heaven, next to God, and receive the highest honors. Until this time all heaven was in order, harmony and perfect subjection to the government of God.
First Edition of
The Great Controversy 1858
Published by James White
Revelation 12:17-> And the Dragon was wroth with the woman,and went to make war with The Remnant of her seed, which keep the Commandments of God,and have the testimony of Jesus Christ
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Once i saw the focus on a false prophet i knew this channel was in error
Ellen white isn’t a prophet of the Lord of Host
She at best can be a servant inly and to actually take her writings equal to tye word of God os blaspheme
I pray that all who think she is equal to the men of God who were actual prophets and actually called to convey the word of God for the kingdom, repent - repent .
God bless those who reject any false prophets
Hello
It's glad you have recognized her as a servant of God.
The debate should not be on whether she is a prophet or not.
Why not spare time and read any of her writing currently on the Ellen white estate app? After which you can comfortably and confidently decide whether her writing are from God or not?
Let's test every spirit, before judging.
@@STARTINGPOINTSOLUTIONFOUNDATIO any sec I would spend reading another persons interpretation of the word of God is a sec wasted forever. I choose to seek God thru his word and his word alone which the Holy Spirit is faithful to quicken the spirit and to reveal the hidden mana. The person who you recommend to read has a heart which is desperately wicked and brings no additional value, or additional revelation, if she isn't preaching Christ Crucified, the Gospel then what is the point? She doesn't have some special knowledge of scripture. It is an insult to read from her writing as if it is equivalent to the inspired word of God, the scriptures, even if all she is doing is repeating the scripture and its clear meaning. Just nonsense.
The Reformers would unanimously anathematize all today's Adventists, do not try to act, like you have some 'lineage' or support in them.
Some of them would anathematize each other actually so I am not sure what your point is.
@@Kurauone__ -- His point is that he is the accuser of the brethren, and in sowing doubt he is doing the work of the enemy of souls.
Ellen white is the lastdays prophet and the witness of Jesus of us
Many of her teachings contradict the Bible .
@@janetdavidson8798 Give even a single quote from her that contradict the bible
@@janetdavidson8798... You must be a Jesuit... Move along.
@@alfredtameifuna8928
You must be a troll who's completely clueless and scared to read the official SDA statements of beliefs...
Specifically fundamental belief #18.
But of course you have prove that you are a troll who comments then runs from a grown debate based on facts through sources
😆 "alfredtameifuna" running scared from debating the fact's, yet running his mouth🤫😆
Amen!
Amen