If a socket won’t work I usually end up making something. Recently had to replace the rear transmission seal on a forklift. It had a very short prop shaft to the drive axle, so no room to swing a hammer. Removed the drive flange and after removing the old seal, discovered I had nothing close to the size. Asked the other guys in the workshop, no joy, so started hunting around. Found something that was just the right size, an old insulted travel coffee mug! Cut the top off it, it was ideal. Plastic top edge to protect the seal, stainless steel for strength. Rigged up a plate & used a bolt on the output shaft to pull the seal in, job done! :)
I just drill an appropriately sized hole in a piece of wood, and drive in the seal with a pipe and a hammer (with the driven end covered with an end cap, of course.) To heck with special service tools.
mike i had a whole work bench drawer full of old bearings, bearing races , from wheels, trucks,rear ends. and any misc part that loooked like a good candidate for a so called special tool. back in the day of non hubbed wheels, good info there sir!!
I use my SO ball joint press cups for seals like that, works perfectly almost every time! And a 17mm fits tight over the adapter if I need an extension for it!
I’ve used a 2x4 piece of wood, PVC, and even plumbing unions. Essential tools are my sockets and wheel drive bearing kit that contains lots of cup and cap sizes along w a brass hammer and punch. Hardest seal i had to install was the outputshaft seal in a BMW trans. A little lube, brass punch and hammer and a lot of patience makes all the difference.
Aka, sockets? I have the aluminum seal installer set, but it seems to not work in many situations, where a correct size Socket and extension usually works great. Sometimes i’ll use a socket and prybar where space is limited. ....ok, ok, nice kit.
just a helpful tip, if you're installing a seal that has a spring in it to keep tension on the seal, 1) you can remove the spring and tighten it a little bit if needed, and 2) I keep a tub of trans goo close by and pack the inside of the seal with it to help keep the spring in place, nothing like putting a pinion seal in and when you look the spring has came out of the seal.....
Couple weeks ago I did a axle seal but i didn't have the right size to drive it in🙄think I used the old seal or a old race bearing that was laying around😏
I always use grey pneumatic impact sockets as seal drivers, they are cheap and work well. That kit is 95 bucks i can get a lot of gp sockets for 95 bucks
that is a great set for seal's,i got mine at my local auto part's store and was one of those let me get it and try it and that was ten or more year's ago! i don't know if you get the tool catalog's(the nations automotive tool box, tool web,tools&equipment)down there in the sweat belt but these are a great for young tech's starting out,better price's then the tool truck. maybe you could do a video on buying tool's at your local part's suppler so they can see they don't alway's gotta spend there cash on the truck.👍👍👍
I wonder if there's anything in my shop I haven't used to drive in a seal. A few weeks ago I used an old oil filter canister to install wear sleeve on a Mack harmonic balancer. I keep old bearing races and seals around to use as install tools. That and the 1" drive socket set does most of what I need.
Hardest ive done was a Subaru 4EAT torque converter shaft seal😳 damn I ruined 2 seals because it was soo tight grease worked best and a 30mm deep and worked it around carefully i felt I deserved a drink after that
I have had that seal puller work quite a few times. A couple times I have put the puller hooks in a seal and grabbed them with visegrips and then tapped the visegrips with a hammer to pop the seal out.
Skf TMFT 36 bearing installation kit is what I use at the factory I work at. Plenty of room for a shaft but not great for small areas but it's light and I've yet to mess up a seal
When I worked for Nissan we had a special tool we used for axle seals and it never worked . It fit perfectly around the seal but it would never fit to make the seal go in flush something would interfere lol so I would use it to get it started then use a 1/4 extension to make it flush . Everyone in the shop got in the habit of doing it that way
Huh? Like a ratchet/socket extension bar? Why 1/4"? I think 3/8" sounds safer, or do you only want to make contact with the outer lip? In my case there's a spring on the inner and I didn't use grease to set it in place. Think I'm looking at a redo :/ (lex rx300) not mine 😅
You have weird timing. Today I was replacing the electromagnetic transfer case clutch on one of the newer RAV4s as I work for Toyota. It dawned on me that I'm always installing axle or Cam seals and I never actually have the right tool. I'm getting this blue pnt kit now thank you very much
These kits are great when the seal is flush with opening, but this is not the case as many seals are set at a precise depth, what can you do when one specs calls for a 7.0mm depth +- 0.5mm and another calls for 8.0mm below the lip? besides trying to find the dealer only driver which only has a one time use.
Good one I have a whole set of those axle nut socket’s that I use more for seal driving then for Axle nuts. I have that blue points set it does work real 👍🏻 have used old races also and whatever you can find sometimes that fits to be able to install seals
Shop manual for 2001 Saturn SL2 advises to use J44809 Intermediate axle shaft seal Installer for passenger side. But can I use same tool for the Driver Side? The seal there is of the similar form, but larger. The seals are PTC PT4613N Oil and Grease Seal for CV Axle and PTC PT4614N Oil and Grease Seal for CV Axle for Passenger and Driver sides correspondently. Thank you for the film.
I work at a toyota dealership and we deal with seals with dust protectors all the time. I bought the kit and it arrives Tuesday. Ill let the group know if it works for toyotas
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If a socket won’t work I usually end up making something. Recently had to replace the rear transmission seal on a forklift. It had a very short prop shaft to the drive axle, so no room to swing a hammer. Removed the drive flange and after removing the old seal, discovered I had nothing close to the size. Asked the other guys in the workshop, no joy, so started hunting around. Found something that was just the right size, an old insulted travel coffee mug! Cut the top off it, it was ideal. Plastic top edge to protect the seal, stainless steel for strength. Rigged up a plate & used a bolt on the output shaft to pull the seal in, job done! :)
I use my grandpa's favorite mug to install seals.
Ball joint press cups are another option.
Thanks for the video Michael. I have had the same set from "Private Brand Tools" for several years now. It has served me well.
I tried hammering seals before amd PETA got on my butt over it.
people eating tasty animals?
PVC pipe can be used and it’s cheap
A good ole exhaust pipe works in tight situations lol
Right on, been using a piece of exhaust pipe on Nissan Versa axle seals for years.
I just drill an appropriately sized hole in a piece of wood, and drive in the seal with a pipe and a hammer (with the driven end covered with an end cap, of course.) To heck with special service tools.
mike i had a whole work bench drawer full of old bearings, bearing races , from wheels, trucks,rear ends. and any misc part that loooked like a good candidate for a so called special tool. back in the day of non hubbed wheels, good info there sir!!
I use my SO ball joint press cups for seals like that, works perfectly almost every time! And a 17mm fits tight over the adapter if I need an extension for it!
I’ve used a 2x4 piece of wood, PVC, and even plumbing unions. Essential tools are my sockets and wheel drive bearing kit that contains lots of cup and cap sizes along w a brass hammer and punch. Hardest seal i had to install was the outputshaft seal in a BMW trans. A little lube, brass punch and hammer and a lot of patience makes all the difference.
This is a GREAT video; to the point and just what I needed to know.
Aka, sockets? I have the aluminum seal installer set, but it seems to not work in many situations, where a correct size Socket and extension usually works great. Sometimes i’ll use a socket and prybar where space is limited.
....ok, ok, nice kit.
just a helpful tip, if you're installing a seal that has a spring in it to keep tension on the seal, 1) you can remove the spring and tighten it a little bit if needed, and 2) I keep a tub of trans goo close by and pack the inside of the seal with it to help keep the spring in place, nothing like putting a pinion seal in and when you look the spring has came out of the seal.....
Couple weeks ago I did a axle seal but i didn't have the right size to drive it in🙄think I used the old seal or a old race bearing that was laying around😏
I do the same thing. I have saved many bearing cups of all different sizes of tapered wheel bearings to use along with my regular driver set.
I always use grey pneumatic impact sockets as seal drivers, they are cheap and work well. That kit is 95 bucks i can get a lot of gp sockets for 95 bucks
that is a great set for seal's,i got mine at my local auto part's store and was one of those let me get it and try it and that was ten or more year's ago! i don't know if you get the tool catalog's(the nations automotive tool box, tool web,tools&equipment)down there in the sweat belt but these are a great for young tech's starting out,better price's then the tool truck. maybe you could do a video on buying tool's at your local part's suppler so they can see they don't alway's gotta spend there cash on the truck.👍👍👍
I wonder if there's anything in my shop I haven't used to drive in a seal. A few weeks ago I used an old oil filter canister to install wear sleeve on a Mack harmonic balancer. I keep old bearing races and seals around to use as install tools. That and the 1" drive socket set does most of what I need.
Hardest ive done was a Subaru 4EAT torque converter shaft seal😳 damn I ruined 2 seals because it was soo tight grease worked best and a 30mm deep and worked it around carefully i felt I deserved a drink after that
I've had this kit for 15 yrs and dudes are just barely figuring this out? Lol. Great kit.
Very informative, nice presentation -best wishes!
Thank God for this video! Axle sticking out on one side!
great info!
I have had that seal puller work quite a few times. A couple times I have put the puller hooks in a seal and grabbed them with visegrips and then tapped the visegrips with a hammer to pop the seal out.
Skf TMFT 36 bearing installation kit is what I use at the factory I work at. Plenty of room for a shaft but not great for small areas but it's light and I've yet to mess up a seal
Such a good idea I can’t believe I’ve never seen anything like that
Don’t forget with that seal install kit you can use the cam crank bolt as well works great if you can’t use a hammer 👍
Great video
You are the tool that installs seals...waka waka
When I worked for Nissan we had a special tool we used for axle seals and it never worked . It fit perfectly around the seal but it would never fit to make the seal go in flush something would interfere lol so I would use it to get it started then use a 1/4 extension to make it flush . Everyone in the shop got in the habit of doing it that way
Huh? Like a ratchet/socket extension bar? Why 1/4"? I think 3/8" sounds safer, or do you only want to make contact with the outer lip? In my case there's a spring on the inner and I didn't use grease to set it in place. Think I'm looking at a redo :/ (lex rx300) not mine 😅
You have weird timing. Today I was replacing the electromagnetic transfer case clutch on one of the newer RAV4s as I work for Toyota. It dawned on me that I'm always installing axle or Cam seals and I never actually have the right tool. I'm getting this blue pnt kit now thank you very much
I use a 36 metric socket to install s cam bushings and a block of wood for anchor pin bushings.
can cut some different size abs or pvc pipe to make your own
Is your dad Columbo from the 1970s tv show
These kits are great when the seal is flush with opening, but this is not the case as many seals are set at a precise depth, what can you do when one specs calls for a 7.0mm depth +- 0.5mm and another calls for 8.0mm below the lip? besides trying to find the dealer only driver which only has a one time use.
Good one I have a whole set of those axle nut socket’s that I use more for seal driving then for Axle nuts. I have that blue points set it does work real 👍🏻 have used old races also and whatever you can find sometimes that fits to be able to install seals
Shop manual for 2001 Saturn SL2 advises to use J44809 Intermediate axle shaft seal Installer for passenger side. But can I use same tool for the Driver Side? The seal there is of the similar form, but larger. The seals are PTC PT4613N Oil and Grease Seal for CV Axle and
PTC PT4614N Oil and Grease Seal for CV Axle for Passenger and Driver sides correspondently. Thank you for the film.
Right, the number one thing to look after is not to roll the lip and cause the spring to come out (which u cannot even see).
So the 1/2 x 1/2 x 4 inch piece of hardwood from the wood shop next door and the 8 ounce ball peen not a good idea ?
2 inch thick hard maple works better, less likely to split.
Another mistake I have seen is they were installed with a screwdriver damaging the seal.Seen this with a cam seal was surprised it didn't leak
What's the best trick on removing this seal
Snap on has a kit you can snap your ball joint tool cups on to it and bang away. That's only if you are already invested in snap-on bj press kit.
i have all was use a flat body hamer to tap t in
Let's go seal clubbing
What seal puller should we use?
Lisle
Block of wood?😁
use that for installing bearings into brushrolls for vacuums
You look like you need a cold beer!
I have no tools and work 26 years. Žero damaged seals.
PVC PIPE will work👍😷
dealer special tool = block of wood and hammer
I work at a toyota dealership and we deal with seals with dust protectors all the time. I bought the kit and it arrives Tuesday. Ill let the group know if it works for toyotas
Did it work out for you
@@carlt6932 if I had a penny for every time these guys say "I'll update you guys"... Lol they never do
Nothing works for toyotas
U showing seals that are easy so u need re do the video show mercury sable driver side axle seal with drishft in the way in trans