To me it's one of the best songs ever written, and the very unique way of guitar playing gives it really something else and pushes the listener's imagination like no other song. I hope that 'Never know' will never be forgotten, even if it's very, very underrated now.
As a native of Manchester I grew up in my teens/20s listening to Joy Division, New Order, Happy Mondays but always overlooked DC even though i knew of Vini Reilly. I didn't know this song existed until now and it brought a tear to my eye. What a tune.
this song opened my mind for the existence of alternative ways of thinking and creating music, back in the 80s. life was never the same after that. thanks Vini.
How the hell did I miss this band? I'm 50 ive been into indie music aswell as other genres, a fan of New order and somehow I managed to overlook them... Duhhhhh Thanks to Peter Hook & his unknown pleasures book, and having UA-cam at my finger tips. This is beautiful 👍
He´s a pioneer and major influencer of the first 80´s bands even they don´t want to recognize them, I just know why Cocteau Twins, The Smiths, Diz Juz, The Cure, and many other bands have existed. Pre Ethereal Avant-Garde experimental pop music. Vini is a Genius.
The Durruti Column are a really great hidden gem of a band, I discovered them about two years ago after delving into Factory Records back catalog of music, so them being on the same label as bands like Cabaret Voltaire, Section 25, New Order and Joy Division naturally peaked my interest. I love Vini Reilly’s unique guitar playing, and the lush soundscapes he and the band create on their albums, if anyone likes this I’d recommend the “The Return Of The Durruti Column” album.
It’s lovely to read what so many people find uplifting about the Durutti Column. My own favourite tune is Blue Period. If you ever get chance to listen to it - you can thank me later 😊
59 years old, first time listener. The guitar reminds me of Vini Reilly's guitar on Anne Clark's "Changing places". Love it. AAAAAAH, addendum five minutes after this comment: Vini Reilly's a band member. Fucking unbelievable. 41 years after I listened to Changing Places over and over I discover "his" band...
I've known and loved this achingly beautiful song for 41 years now. Fascinating for me to think about how it's got to me, got under my skin so deeply in so many different ways as I've aged.
Haunting beauty. This really takes me back to the day before 'the day' as we say in Manchester, (or rather 'back in the day') the pre Hacienda Factory years. The Return of the Durutti Column was the first Factory album I owned and it was always one of my favourites. Incidentally, this 'video' was probably shot in Marie Louise Gardens on Palatine Road in Didsbury, not far from the original Factory HQ. The location was used for a lot of DC publicity.
J'ai pratiquement tous les vinyls de Durutti Column mais ce morceau m'a toujours fasciné. Qu'est ce que j'ai pu m'évader, penser à autre chose qu'à notre vie compliquée de tous les jours en écoutant ces quasi 7 minutes de musique intemporelle, aérienne...
J’ai paumer tous mes cassettes de l’époque et ton post m’as donne envie de les chercher a nouveau, car intemporelle et aérienne , malgré les années passées , ça me parle encore…. merci P.R.
C'est cool de lire du français ici, merci Patrice. Je partage tout à fait tes impressions sur ce titre en particulier et sur la musique de Vini Reilly en général.
I'm about to be 41 years old and this is beautiful. I've read Julie Hamill's interview with Vini Reilly and it has brought me to this song. Vini is way too modest about his guitar playing in the interview. He is brilliant. The emotions and feelings in his guitar playing is beautiful, so touching.
Reminds me of a train journey I took from Bern To Geneva on a bright but cold March day. This was playing on my cassette. Thanks a million for posting this gem of a song!
I am so ecstatic to have come upon this favorite song of mine which got accidentally erased on the cassette tape that I had recorded back in college. I had searched on streaming outlets but did not dawn on me to look for it on the you tube ! It just brings back so many memories. Thanks for creating such a great album.
That, my friend, is the genius of Vini Reilly....words cannot describe or measure his talent...just listen, enjoy and be in awe, and take what you have experienced, through Vini, through your life with you...
This and Sketch for Summer are the first two Durutti Column songs I had ever heard and I have been a fan ever since. Listening to Alternative Radio station WHFS in the Washington DC area in the 80's I cannot recall them being played much, but I have heard them on another station in the Baltimore area. Their music is to me Classical, Mozart, Beethoven, and The Durutti Column!
las notas de la guitarra suenan como gotas de agua ,de porcelana,y tejen una melodia tan irreal y llena de una nostalgia maravillosa y de ensueño.esa guitarra es dueña de un poder que como las sirenas obnubilan nuestros sentidos
If you somehow arrived to this video & song, perhaps you can understand why many consider Vini Reilly to be such a badass guitarist, and just musician in general. Bruce's drumming is also awesome. TDC's music is simply timeless, there's no point in even trying to pigeon-hole it all into genre conventions and all that. It's just simple music -- great music. Whether you heard this decades ago or minutes ago, you could come back to it with ease and it'd still be fresh. This is perfection.
Just rebought this vinyl today, having lost track of the original one I got, some odd 32 years ago, just as it was pressed here in Portugal, under the command of Dr Miguel Esteves Cardoso, one Vini's greatest admirers and personal friends. If you remember well, Reilly even did an album called "Amigos em Portugal", which says A LOT about how important DC were in my country. They were constantly playing LC on national FM radio! I just wish Vini gets better! Long live THE Durutti Column.
Such a vibey sound, really great guitar tones. This guy is the Genius who played on and probably wrote most of the music on Morrissey's first solo record Viva Hate after Moz broke from The Smiths.
Reilly later admitted that he was greatly stretching the truth when he said this (he certainly may have arranged the guitar parts that he played as he has an instinctive approach to playing) and that he's not sure why he said it but he regrets doing so.
Calixte De Coster No, Thom Yorke hasn't left a mark on the music industry like Ian Curtis or Vini Reily has. Sure he's a great musician but it didn't sound something like you've never heard before, Ian and Vini both left their marks in that aspect.
In the summer of 82 DC played that year's incredible edition of Vilar de Mouros 9-day music festival. The natural amphitheatrum was packed in open starlight to see the skinny grand magus of magic-guitar. Unforgettable.
I love this beautiful full filling music.I never get tired of it. These sounds and the tune gives me hope, and makes me open my soul. This is timeless.Thank you. Vinnie
its midday on a friday in winter and im listening to this sitting on my bed while the sun is shining into my room through the window warming my body and face...
Sem palavras! O disco LC do Duruti é muuuuuito bom. Simplesmente todo disco é fabuloso! Me dá muitas saudades da década de 80. Queria que já tivessem inventado uma máquina do tempo!
A taste of the 80's, I mean the GOOD old eighties...Jesus I had forgotten all the simplicity of a well played guitar and harmony. Now that I found Durutti Column, I´m gonna search The Waterboys! This youtube thing rocks!
Beautiful. Beautiful. Quite uplifting and when it ended, the next door neighbours Kids are Screaming at each other and sound like they're smashing something up... Oh, it' their shed. Their Mum has come out now and is cursing them with threats and obscenities, and all this while, their dog has been Barking Continuously. -Um, so I think I'll just play this again.
Well, yeah You're probably right, but you know how it is... It's supposed to be our advantage that we humans live together and (in theory anyway) we all work as part of a fully functioning society... But then you add disfunctional neighbours, vandalism, noise etc, into the mix... MORE MUSIC MAESTRO, PLEASE ! Maybe I will move or else it's time for the aliens to take them some place far away.
All I have to say is there are certain pressures that arise in some people from the stresses of living in this post-mondern era. These stresses cause seemingly unreasonable actions that, in fact, do have a rational correlation to causality.
I've seen so many horrid artists achieve fame and such popularity but a part of me believes it's better that the Durutti Column is just a whisper in the wind. I think the Durutti Column's fans are the few that appreciate true music and the beauty of pure sound. Why should it not remain that way?
I had the pleasure of relaxing over drinks with these guys at the Bottom Line in 1985 after the 'Live' double CD came out. It was such a personal moment that I cherish to this day.
I cry in my sleep, sometimes you stay Sometimes you stay, you never know why Please say my name, don't turn away The pain is black The pain is bright The pain is black The pain is bright The pain is bright Then I awake and in the half light Watching my movements through half closed eyes You're touching me as a priest loves pornography We played beneath the patterns [unverified] Don't turn away The pain is black The pain is bright The pain is black The pain is bright The pain is bright Kissed by the years, caresses of time Marking the lines, the lines of expression The patterns of place, the patterns of youth The patterns of love, don't turn away Say my name, say my name
To me it's one of the best songs ever written, and the very unique way of guitar playing gives it really something else and pushes the listener's imagination like no other song. I hope that 'Never know' will never be forgotten, even if it's very, very underrated now.
yes, unique
It makes me cry every single time I hear it. Such astounding artistry.
@@jonathonsingleton837 So true
As a native of Manchester I grew up in my teens/20s listening to Joy Division, New Order, Happy Mondays but always overlooked DC even though i knew of Vini Reilly. I didn't know this song existed until now and it brought a tear to my eye. What a tune.
Into the nights of 1986, I listened to this song - over and over... again...
oh to return to those days again
this song opened my mind for the existence of alternative ways of thinking and creating music, back in the 80s. life was never the same after that. thanks Vini.
Been listing to Durutti Column for 36 years. Worked in record shop in late 70'S. Still beautiful.
@@pashadyne jajajaj
This must be one of the most underrated songs in alternative rock. 10 years ahead its time
Only 10?
true say bro
Yeah I think this a masterful peace of guitar solo performer. I would say this is better than jimmy hendrix
@@donhodgkinson6233 lol
Ahead, behind, left, right, up down, whatever. It can be anywhere, its timeless. Agree with your love for this work of art and its brilliant
How the hell did I miss this band?
I'm 50 ive been into indie music aswell as other genres, a fan of New order and somehow I managed to overlook them...
Duhhhhh
Thanks to Peter Hook & his unknown pleasures book, and having UA-cam at my finger tips.
This is beautiful 👍
Beautiful melody!!
I have been listening DC for 40 years, and it still sounds amazingly brilliant and beautiful.
Same here can’t believe I didn’t know of them. I’m 52. Loved Smiths, Cure and Cocteau Twins. At least we found him now!
Used to play this song all the time on my radio show in college. Brings back memories...wow. Still so good.
He´s a pioneer and major influencer of the first 80´s bands even they don´t want to recognize them, I just know why Cocteau Twins, The Smiths, Diz Juz, The Cure, and many other bands have existed. Pre Ethereal Avant-Garde experimental pop music. Vini is a Genius.
U2 also
Never ever had anyone made music such melocholically beautiful
The Durruti Column are a really great hidden gem of a band, I discovered them about two years ago after delving into Factory Records back catalog of music, so them being on the same label as bands like Cabaret Voltaire, Section 25, New Order and Joy Division naturally peaked my interest. I love Vini Reilly’s unique guitar playing, and the lush soundscapes he and the band create on their albums, if anyone likes this I’d recommend the “The Return Of The Durruti Column” album.
pure magic, sadness turns into nostalgia. great band.
It’s lovely to read what so many people find uplifting about the Durutti Column. My own favourite tune is Blue Period. If you ever get chance to listen to it - you can thank me later 😊
59 years old, first time listener. The guitar reminds me of Vini Reilly's guitar on Anne Clark's "Changing places". Love it. AAAAAAH, addendum five minutes after this comment: Vini Reilly's a band member. Fucking unbelievable. 41 years after I listened to Changing Places over and over I discover "his" band...
I've known and loved this achingly beautiful song for 41 years now. Fascinating for me to think about how it's got to me, got under my skin so deeply in so many different ways as I've aged.
Haunting beauty. This really takes me back to the day before 'the day' as we say in Manchester, (or rather 'back in the day') the pre Hacienda Factory years. The Return of the Durutti Column was the first Factory album I owned and it was always one of my favourites. Incidentally, this 'video' was probably shot in Marie Louise Gardens on Palatine Road in Didsbury, not far from the original Factory HQ. The location was used for a lot of DC publicity.
One of my favourite bands. One of my favourite songs. Life wouldn't be the same, or even bearable, without Vini's music.
LC is one of Eno's all-time favorite albums, and it's clear to see why.
I still have the original on vinyl. I’ve always loved your music.
J'ai pratiquement tous les vinyls de Durutti Column mais ce morceau m'a toujours fasciné. Qu'est ce que j'ai pu m'évader, penser à autre chose qu'à notre vie compliquée de tous les jours en écoutant ces quasi 7 minutes de musique intemporelle, aérienne...
J’ai paumer tous mes cassettes de l’époque et ton post m’as donne envie de les chercher a nouveau, car intemporelle et aérienne , malgré les années passées , ça me parle encore…. merci P.R.
C'est cool de lire du français ici, merci Patrice. Je partage tout à fait tes impressions sur ce titre en particulier et sur la musique de Vini Reilly en général.
@@davsiddripan Salut aux Français... Ben moi je découvre Vini Reilly aujourd'hui
Je ne sais pas comment j'ai pu passer à côté d'un tel artiste .
I'm about to be 41 years old and this is beautiful. I've read Julie Hamill's interview with Vini Reilly and it has brought me to this song. Vini is way too modest about his guitar playing in the interview. He is brilliant. The emotions and feelings in his guitar playing is beautiful, so touching.
Reminds me of a train journey I took from Bern To Geneva on a bright but cold March day. This was playing on my cassette. Thanks a million for posting this gem of a song!
The Testing Season
I had a train ride like that in Japan. She loved the Column :)
The Testing Season Plse give me this kind music artist name
kochumon kichu Durrutti Column...
ah swiss trains....
I'd never thought someone could create such tunes with a guitar! Awesome and beautiful...
I am so ecstatic to have come upon this favorite song of mine which got accidentally erased on the cassette tape that I had recorded back in college. I had searched on streaming outlets but did not dawn on me to look for it on the you tube ! It just brings back so many memories. Thanks for creating such a great album.
vini fue unos de los mejores guitarristas del mundo, con una simple tecnica y un sentimiento que no cabia adentro de su pecho
pero si no se ha muerto
still makes me cry
me too doude
I just heard this for the first time and felt such an intense palette of emotions i cried until the end and now i feel so peacefully empty
Un poema hecho canción, nostalgia, soledad infinita, recuerdos de la otra noche, anhelos del nuevo día...
Immense and excruciatingly beautiful.
i remember taking long walks around my village's river playing this over and over
ghostly, beautiful combination. Gotta try that
A poem. A masterpiece. The whole of this melancholic life in one song. Just really, really ace.
This just came into the record shop. I had to keep it for myself. Amazing guitar work.
the return... the best album of factory.
The essence of Manchester.
la columna de durruti siempre a la vanguardia.
holy blueberries the guitar is insane on this track.
That, my friend, is the genius of Vini Reilly....words cannot describe or measure his talent...just listen, enjoy and be in awe, and take what you have experienced, through Vini, through your life with you...
Wayyy ahead of it’s time.
This tune is mindblowing. 🎶✨
that is saying the time back then was bad. maybe we have gone backward in development
@@stillbenlol Actually this was perfect for it’s time 🎶🙌, in that case
This and Sketch for Summer are the first two Durutti Column songs I had ever heard and I have been a fan ever since. Listening to Alternative Radio station WHFS in the Washington DC area in the 80's I cannot recall them being played much, but I have heard them on another station in the Baltimore area. Their music is to me Classical, Mozart, Beethoven, and The Durutti Column!
Hey I agree with you! What other bands you listen to?
Good call....
Greatest pop sensibility ever. Shame he got filed under indie guitar. 50 years ahead of his time.
so true.
I still worship Durutti Column. Had my first listen in 1982 and numerous LP's that ended up on a Pima Indian reservation with unknown fate. Sigh.
Just wonderfull, it reminds me the good years
.............music for nostalgic dreamers...........
las notas de la guitarra suenan como gotas de agua ,de porcelana,y tejen una melodia tan irreal y llena de una nostalgia maravillosa y de ensueño.esa guitarra es dueña de un poder que como las sirenas obnubilan nuestros sentidos
Literally takes my breath away...
At it's time... this song was just "something in the future"! Outstanding (that's the sole word to define it)...
my first listen..because they knew and gigged with my favorite band, Joy Division. that had to be an event.
My favorite band from the 80's by far.
this track give me so many thoughts, something between positive and negative as well.
nostalgia as possible only here, ''Never Know''. #10.09.2018 r.
I'm so ashamed to discover this marvellous thing just now. Did I miss my life until now?
Naïs Art Durutti finds you , not the other way around .
Same here
If you somehow arrived to this video & song, perhaps you can understand why many consider Vini Reilly to be such a badass guitarist, and just musician in general. Bruce's drumming is also awesome. TDC's music is simply timeless, there's no point in even trying to pigeon-hole it all into genre conventions and all that. It's just simple music -- great music. Whether you heard this decades ago or minutes ago, you could come back to it with ease and it'd still be fresh. This is perfection.
Just rebought this vinyl today, having lost track of the original one I got, some odd 32 years ago, just as it was pressed here in Portugal, under the command of Dr Miguel Esteves Cardoso, one Vini's greatest admirers and personal friends. If you remember well, Reilly even did an album called "Amigos em Portugal", which says A LOT about how important DC were in my country. They were constantly playing LC on national FM radio! I just wish Vini gets better! Long live THE Durutti Column.
tragically underrated, underappreciated - savored by the cynosure
Manuel Branco under rated is better than over rated any day.
Such a vibey sound, really great guitar tones. This guy is the Genius who played on and probably wrote most of the music on Morrissey's first solo record Viva Hate after Moz broke from The Smiths.
He did indeed write most of the music on Viva Hate and was never properly credited.
Reilly later admitted that he was greatly stretching the truth when he said this (he certainly may have arranged the guitar parts that he played as he has an instinctive approach to playing) and that he's not sure why he said it but he regrets doing so.
Quite simply the best musician and composer to come out of the UK in the last 30 years.
I wouldn't go that far, but it's a tune.
In my opinion that honor would go to Ian Curtis.
curious - from the same nest as such, but I still opt for Vini
Thom Yorke!
Calixte De Coster No, Thom Yorke hasn't left a mark on the music industry like Ian Curtis or Vini Reily has. Sure he's a great musician but it didn't sound something like you've never heard before, Ian and Vini both left their marks in that aspect.
In the summer of 82 DC played that year's incredible edition of Vilar de Mouros 9-day music festival. The natural amphitheatrum was packed in open starlight to see the skinny grand magus of magic-guitar. Unforgettable.
Vini for ever, incredible artist, incredible LP, incredible song, i would die to see them in concert
Somewhere in the world, it's always 6am on a Sunday morning...
Its 5 am Wed Morning
I hear early pre-morning in this song. And trucks on a distant freeway.
sounds like the inspiration for a lot of 90s dance/ electronica hits
I agree with you!
I love this beautiful full filling music.I never get tired of it. These sounds and the tune gives me hope, and makes me open my soul. This is timeless.Thank you. Vinnie
this is heaven
Não canso de ouvir essa musica. Inclusive acabei de comprar o disco. Vini you are a genius!!!!!!!
Brasileiro de bom gosto.
Beautiful - Like almost all The Durutti Column & Reilly create
Just wonderful art
its midday on a friday in winter and im listening to this sitting on my bed while the sun is shining into my room through the window warming my body and face...
i've never been to england. but somehow, durutti column seems to fit a rainy night in Portland Oregon decorously.
I imagine it's not so different from a rainy night in Manchester, Lancashire.
Hermosos acordes, ojalá mas gente pueda tener acceso a esta maravillosa música.
kind of pure
Sem palavras! O disco LC do Duruti é muuuuuito bom. Simplesmente todo disco é fabuloso! Me dá muitas saudades da década de 80. Queria que já tivessem inventado uma máquina do tempo!
It gives me a medival scifi vibe.. i love this song
don't know how i came upon this clip but wow
thank you universe
Beautiful. Simple and very beatiful.
those plucks are the best
Really felling the frequency of these tunes!
Beautiful ..!!!
chitarra splendida, gran pezzo 😍
I came to them through long winding roads passing long fin killie, belle and sebastian and ian brown ... thanx to all of them, makes me humble!!!
It just breaks my heart over and over again
Not sure how i ended up here but glad I'm here.
wow this clip captures such a bittersweet feeling...
This is absolutely amazing. My first listen of this band. I found out about them in the comments on a 1981 BBC U2 clip of The Ocean here on UA-cam.
last of the great romantics
buruk bir hissin yanında tebessüm de ediyorum... inanılmaz güzel bir eser.
I just love how the sound doesn’t match the obvious 1981 visuals …. Such a paradox !
A taste of the 80's, I mean the GOOD old eighties...Jesus I had forgotten all the simplicity of a well played guitar and harmony. Now that I found Durutti Column, I´m gonna search The Waterboys! This youtube thing rocks!
Breathless......... from Salford
Adoro questo brano 🎶🎸🎶👍😗😊
Beautiful. Beautiful. Quite uplifting and when it ended, the next door neighbours Kids are Screaming at each other and sound like they're smashing something up... Oh, it' their shed. Their Mum has come out now and is cursing them with threats and obscenities, and all this while, their dog has been Barking Continuously.
-Um, so I think I'll just play this again.
MungoidHen That might be a cue to start looking for a new place...
Well, yeah You're probably right, but you know how it is... It's supposed to be our advantage that we humans live together and (in theory anyway) we all work as part of a fully functioning society... But then you add disfunctional neighbours, vandalism, noise etc, into the mix... MORE MUSIC MAESTRO, PLEASE ! Maybe I will move or else it's time for the aliens to take them some place far away.
All I have to say is there are certain pressures that arise in some people from the stresses of living in this post-mondern era. These stresses cause seemingly unreasonable actions that, in fact, do have a rational correlation to causality.
Joe Ruter Interesting response !
Yes, I know you are right about us. We are all a part of this and I am you and you are me,
Precisely
I've seen so many horrid artists achieve fame and such popularity but a part of me believes it's better that the Durutti Column is just a whisper in the wind. I think the Durutti Column's fans are the few that appreciate true music and the beauty of pure sound. Why should it not remain that way?
I had the pleasure of relaxing over drinks with these guys at the Bottom Line in 1985 after the 'Live' double CD came out. It was such a personal moment that I cherish to this day.
I cry in my sleep, sometimes you stay
Sometimes you stay, you never know why
Please say my name, don't turn away
The pain is black
The pain is bright
The pain is black
The pain is bright
The pain is bright
Then I awake and in the half light
Watching my movements through half closed eyes
You're touching me as a priest loves pornography
We played beneath the patterns [unverified]
Don't turn away
The pain is black
The pain is bright
The pain is black
The pain is bright
The pain is bright
Kissed by the years, caresses of time
Marking the lines, the lines of expression
The patterns of place, the patterns of youth
The patterns of love, don't turn away
Say my name, say my name
Maria Diaz thanks !
Thanks
Lovely!!
Thanks for posting the lyrics, which were largely a mystery to me. Makes me see the song in a new light.
@@hihowareyouthen My pleasure.:)
love this guitar playing so much
I really like Vini's vocals
So do I! I believe Tony Wilson tried to discourage him from singing - I'm glad Vini didn't listen. I love the vulnerability in his voice.
So sad..and beautiful
Yes! Achingly so.
Proto Dream Pop at it's finest
What a wonderful masterpiece! I can't believe it took so much time to me to know it!
Beautiful music
beautiful music and film
The song is called "Never Known".
my god, this sound... this lyrics... just insane
Durutti Colummn has just published a 2 Cd's "BEST OF", mainly focused on its early works. Quite good anyway !!!
The best song!
Great song. Thanks for sharing.
Man of the Future
"It's good music to chill out to" - God
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