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I believe it’s a duty of being patriotic to recognize the wrong we’ve done in the past. You can’t truly love a country without understanding the wrong as well.
I see that as the difference between patriotic and nationalistic. Knowing the wrongs made by your country is what we strive to do better in the future.
We don’t need to feel any guilt over the past
@@jeffslote9671 I think there is a difference between guilt and acknowledgement. Do I feel personal guilt or shame for what happened? No. I wasn't born yet and even if I was there is nothing I could have done to stop it. Do I acknowledge what happened and that it was wrong? Yes.
@@jeffslote9671Then you're not allowed to feel pride as well
All we do is talk about the perceived wrongs some think this country has done
And we rarely if ever discuss the things the people some claim we did wrong did bad things to us
The Nez Perce absolutely saved the Lewis & Clark expedition. L&C were basically DOA coming out of the Bitterroot Mountains until the NP gave them food and shelter until they were strong enough to continue.
To my knowledge, the Nez Perce was given a peace agreement and broke bread with Lewis and Clark and took that peace to heart so much so that no Nez Perce harmed a white man for 73ish years until the war.
History dose is fantastic for story telling of lesser known individuals with some of the best art and even music
I would suggest watching their Mongols series. It is one of the best I've seen and goes into great detail (good and bad) on what the Mongols did during and sadly after battles. As you said here, their art is amazing, and their Mongol art is phenomenal.
Agree
I had the great privilege of caretaking the Bear Paw Battlefield site for 3 years. The Nez Perce story is one of the most poignant in American history, and I can’t tell you how much it means to see one of my favourite channels cover it!!
I live 20 miles away from The Chief Joseph Bear Paw battle field. I visit the site at least once ever year. its a beautiful but sad place.
What you say from minute 20:16 is basically "Imposing conditions that would cause severe damage to entire populations of particular ethnic group". Which, again, fits one of the definitions of Genocide. That was that.
No genocide happened against native peoples
@@jeffslote9671 I'm sorry and I say this as someone who considers himself extremely patriotic. Their may be arguments over the timescale and level of centralization but the fact remains that the we used against the Native Americans almost the exact same tactics that were used by the Russians in Circassia, the Germans in Namibia, the Turks in Armenia, and that continue to be used in places like Darfur. If genocide is too strong a word in your view all of these at the very least amount to ethnic cleansing.
It didn't quite amount to genocide. Genocide also includes the systematic eradication of a particular people. That's the part where people leave out.
What the Nazis did to the Jews was a genocide because of the last fact of the definition. Full eradication of the group of people.
@@jeffslote9671did listen to everything they did to them? How could you say that
I am so happy that some bison survived in Yellowstone, which all bison today came from. Also am happy with the wolf reintroduction into Yellowstone and other places now
I wish people understood just how unhealthy our ecosphere is now. And how rare wildlife is compared to 200 years ago. 200 years ago you could take a rifle or a bow into the woods and survive. The ecology was balanced. But we have inadvertently wiped out so many species and intentionally wiped out others. Even now cattle farmers oppose the reintroduction of wolves without understanding that those wolves kept down the population of deer rabbits and other animals. Only recently have some come to understand that reintroducing the wolves and taking out dirt cheap insurance policies that replace the rare cattle they lose is better for the ranchers and the environment. We still haven't learned this lesson with factory farming and corporate farming. We spent 1% of the Earth's total energy production creating nitrate fertilizers that destroy the deltas and the oceans
I remember my coworker whose nez perce. He told me about this and I told him we never learned about this stuff. Hearing it from someone whose from the tribe was some of the best insight I’ve ever gotten
they were in the way by Knowing Better, also recommended
He would like to do it, but knowing better has told vth that he doesn't like any reaction channel and does not want vth to react to his videos.
I live on the Idaho Palouse and though I am white, I know a lot about this war. There was a unit in middle school history about it. We were encouraged to read books about the Nez-Pierce. I have ridden Appaloosa horses. There is a visitors center at the top of Whitebird pass where the first ambush mentioned in the video happened. I find it amazing most Americans haven't heard of this.
Grew up in CDA. Definitely remember that unit in our fourth grade Idaho history. Our teacher literally wrote the Idaho history book we used, so it was a passion of his clearly. And I remember the school trips to Cataldo and seeing the fingerprints in the mud daubing they used during building.
Napoleon's Coup was released by Epic History!!
I really appreciate this video. I grew up on the Crow reservation just a few minutes away from the little bighorn battlefield. My family was friends with several crow families and I never really grew up thinking there was any real difference between whites and indians. But when we moved to the Nez Perce reservation I suddenly found myself sort of singled out for being a white boy, had obscenities and slurs thrown at me as I walked down the streets. I never could get close enough to any nez perce to really make friends with any of them. The fact that the nez perce fought versus the crow who made themselves indispensible meant that the nez perce were much more forcibly assimilated and there is resentment that lasts to this day. this video does a lot to establish a conversation that is just difficult to have with those who are still experiencing the aftermath 150 years later, due to generations of passed down resentment and hatred that was sadly well earned.
I’m happy to see you do a video about the Nez Perce. One of the earliest movies I remember watching was about this war, “I Will Fight No More Forever” (1975). Really got me into history as a young kid.
Hey Chris, not sure if you're familiar with them, but "the rest is history" have just done a brilliant podcast series about the life of Custer and the little big horn battle
I have to admit I live under a rock most of time, but I wanted to congratulate you on your appearance on the History Channel on the new World War I Series. I was watching the show and when you appeared, I had that "Leonardo DiCaprio Meme" moment. Well done!
As far as the Nez Perce Campaign goes, a looooong time ago when I was in college, I took a course on US Military History. I don't know the veracity of this claim, but The ROTC Instructor who taught the course in conjunction with the professor, said that US Military Academy Instructors rated it as one of the three best defensive military campaigns fought against the US Military (The other two being Joe Johnston's defensive campaign against William T. Sherman's advance on Atlanta in 1864 and Albert Kesselring's defense of Italy against the allies in WWII.)
I really dug the artwork once they got to Yellowstone. They did a great job.
My hometown started as a fort whose location was recommended by General Sherman not too far north of here. The fort entrance is still there as are the officers quarters (now offices for teachers at the local college) and the church that served the fort.
I am very interested in looking more into this subject. In Canada we are taught growing up about how disease killed off most of the indigenous communities, and the settlement wars pushed out the rest. But it is very rare that anyone stops to think just how abundant these cultures were before european settlement and how much was lost, then promptly ignored.
There is so much native blood on the hands of the government. I am glad that there are more ways to learn the truth today than they're were when I was a child.
No native blood is on the hands of the government
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee is a must read for anyone interested in reading about the Indian Wars.
One of the best books I've ever read
It's also important to point out that many scholars have criticized the book for not including sources except for direct quotations and perpetuating the "Vanishing Indians" myth.
@@yashjoseph3544 this is the first time that I have heard this. I'll look further into it. Thanks for informing me.
I read that book as a child. It was probably inappropriate for my age, but i had a burning desire to learn everything i could back then. The first part of the book covered the...Sand River Massacre(i think? It's been a while.) The book i borrowed from my school library had a photograph of the dead and rigor-ed body of Black Kettle. It haunts me still. The book goes on to talk about the Ghost religion started by a sorta zealotous Paiute prophet. Even in 4th grade i understood the movement was a far too late forlorn desperate hope, if it was intended to unite long hated enemies.
I found a new Channel "Warhawk" is name and the Video I watched was "ACW: Dakota War of 1862 - "Hell Let Loose"" Its kind of Epic History style. so far only seen one video but seems good.
History dose has some of my favorite history videos, the storys about the mongols are incredible. For sure one of best history channels, and i would like more videos like this. 💪
Unfortunately, racism is at the heart of both of our original sins as a nation: slavery and repression of tribes. So much of our history is tied up in our inability to see the humanity of our fellow man. As a fellow conservative Christian and a student of history, I know that this is far from strictly an American scar but it is still something we have to bear as our unwillingness to live up to the radical nature of our Founding ideals.
Excellent point! Thank you for your awareness.
Thats the sins of humanity if you wanna start looking into history. Slavery and conquering neighboring weaker tribes is just a human thing weve done throughout history.
Good perspective to have. Idk if I would call our founding fathers radical though. Our revolution, if you can even call it that, was the most conservative of it's kind in the entire era of revolutions across the Atlantic. And it still shows in how reactionary our politics as a whole have been from then until today. They meant for America to be racist and expansionist. Settler colonialism has always been the heart of the American project. That's why we started to decline as soon as we couldn't colonize anymore
Never apologize for winning
@@yvtvdehvyvyde It was conservative in the Burkean sense, not in the modern sense. And the ideals were absolutely radical, even as the Founders were applying the thought of their time. Also, sorry, but you lose credibility when you say that we were designed to be expansionist. Yes, the Founders did want the US to be an "empire of liberty", to quote Jefferson but the idea that that was the heart of our experiment in self-government is a bit much. Also, I'm gonna push back on the idea of us declining. We are still far and away the most powerful nation on Earth, culturally and economically, and the strongest military on it, it is just simply that we are no longer able to exert our will by ourselves on the world stage because of the rise of everyone else.
Here in Oregon in northeast Oregon specifically there are a couple small towns near each other they have a yearly celebration called chief Joseph Days
Its odd that it took this to soften the hearts of men like Sheridan. When two men were killed, he sent Eugene Baker to attack the band of the men that killed the white men. He ordered "Strike them hard".
The event was a family affair. Malcom Clarke was married to the daughter of Mountain Chief. Mountain Chief's son Owl Child killed Malcom Clarke and his father. There is some dispute over the reason.
In the end of January, Baker marched his men to a trading post where he picked up two men Cobell and Kipp. Cobell was married to another of Mountain Chief's daughters and led the soldiers to the camp of Heavy Runner.
Heavy Runner was a peace chief, who by all accounts was proud to be a "good indian". When he saw the soldiers amassing around the camp he immediately ran out with his paper of good conduct to be shot. Some say Cobell is the one who shot Heavy Runner, others that it was a nameless soldier, regardless, when it was all said and done over a hundred men, women, and children were dead. Most were old or sick with smallpox.
Survivors fled east down the Marias through the Willow Rounds where they found Mountain Chiefs camp. Mountain Chief cleared his cano and in a winter storm moved into Canada.
I only share this because the Bear River Massacre (Baker Massacre) is not often talked about. It involves my ancestors, as I am a descendant of Mountain Chief, and my great great aunt was in Heavy Runners camp that day. She had to suffocste her baby in a snow drift to avoid detection, she would bever have another child.
Knowing this, it is hard for me to accept the after the fact statements from men like Sheridan or Sherman.
As a kid here in England back in the 70s I read about the Nez Perception and their struggles.
It was quite a shock for a Black Country English kid brought up on John Wayne etc
Thanks Sam for another great video on the history of india
Check out the movie "I will fight no more forever". Not sure how accurate it is, but I think it is a good movie of the Nez Perce war & Chief Joseph
Oh boy, this is not going to be a happy episode. I better get some tissues and a beer to drown out the sorrows.
'Murican here, and I agree. But we need videos like this to keep history alive because so many events like this get glossed over or ignored in schools, and we simply can not forget the past, no matter how bitter it may be. So I watch, and get sad, but the knowledge won't be lost.
Look at you! Saw you last night on the History Channel, “The Great War.” Had your hair combed and your teeth brushed, wearing a suit and tie, looking all professional! Hope they reimbursed you well for your efforts. Someone spent a lot of money putting that together. I have to admit it was well done. Had the right amount of reenactment scenes, archival footage, and diverse historical commentary. Hopefully you can parlay your UA-cam channel into more gigs like that…
According to Smedly Butler medals became more common so they didn't have to pay recruitment bonuses. "Because the boys like to be decorated"
This is heartbreaking to watch but so important to learn about
An amazing podcast I recommend on this and related topic is the Meateater podcast episode “The American West”
Steve Rinella is a expert hunter who sits down with Prof Elliot West to talk about the nez perce war and the American west
Really an amazing episode
hey chris!! im watching your new history channel video right now!!! on youtube, youre amazing my friend! so well spoken as you always are, you make ohioan and kentuckians look great thank you!
As a kid I was obsessed with the stories of native Americans, and had a longstanding fascination with Chief Joseph, and considered his surrender speech to be as great as any in American history. The Nez Perce were wronged and many of the soldiers who perused them knew it.
Great video, as usual... I really like the extra bits of information you always add to these videos.
Side note... I saw you drive off the ferry at Put in Bay the other day, while I as waiting to leave the island. I wish I could have said Hi, but your model Y was too fast :P... Maybe another time, I live in the Cleveland area too so there will be other opportunities. Anyway, nice video!
we need more history dose please
Just in case you're not aware but a Napoleon's coup of 18 Brumaire from Epic History has come out so I bet it would be interesting if you did a reaction series on it, maybe discover actual events that went down.
The story of the next perce is so awesome.
Speaking of being hunted for a thousand miles it might be entertaining to have you react to the movie Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and comment on the historical accuracy of that chase.
That speech heartbreaking
Awesome l learned something new
There is a house here in Vancouver Washington that was O. O. Howard’s house. We also have the Grant House but ironically it was not Grant’s house.
It is interesting for me to hear Nez-Percés pronounced like that.
I do like the arts and presentation of this channel.
"Pince nez" means "pinche nose".
Hey Epic History has done a video about the Brumaire Coup please check it out.
As a latinoamerican something i really find hard to understand is the discomfort US people and many europeans have when dealing with the really ugly and evil things their governments and ancestors did, and this is not a condenation of Chris and many others, is just a "cultural shock" i have for growing in a country that its education system tells our nation wrongs since the beginning (in my case Brazil). We hear a lot about how much the US schools still teach a very "patriotic and bleached" version of its history (and the banning of books who challenge this view), but would be nice to hear americans saying how true this is, maybe this would explain all this visible discomfort you guys have
As an American, I can give some insight. It's not so much discomfort with learning the more sordid parts of our history, as I and many others learned about those things just fine and have had many sensible, good-faith discussions with other Americans about these things. We have no choice but to come to terms with these things, we live here after all.
The issue isn't that we can't deal with terrible parts of our past, it's more a matter of that's ALL we often hear now. It may be different for older Americans, but for younger Americans (millennials and younger), ALL they know is the horrible things America has done and they can only see this country as racist, sexist, imperialist, homophobic, any evil -ist you can think of. They couldn't tell you a single positive thing America contributed to the world. That's ALL that our media has propagated for the past decade or so. That's why when discussing these things, you may come across some defensiveness from Americans, because we're in a bit of a crisis at the moment, a crisis of faith in our culture, our history and our institutions.
This whole notion that we're taught a "patriotic and bleached" version of our history, it may be true in a couple places, but it's largely nonsense stirred up by the media. And the reason for all this comes down to two factors: Academia and social media. Many of the people in American higher education (not all, but enough to be influential) are entrenched in an ideology which openly professes hatred for this country and teaches students that the US has done no good and has been nothing but evil. I know this because I've seen it first hand. These activist teachers get their ideas filtered out through the likes of Twitter and Tik-Tok and now we have young Americans with a deeply warped sense of their history, burning their own country's flags and tearing down memorials even of genuinely great figures like Ulysses Grant and Martin Luther King. And when sensible people try to push back against all this, then you hear the nonsense about "patriotic education" and "book banning". It's probably the most effective gaslighting I've ever seen.
Anyway, sorry for ranting a bit. That's just some insight from one American out of more than 330 million. I'm positive others will strongly disagree with me, but that's their right.
None of this is true
So, when some people (me included) when they connect Nazy Germany and Adolph Hitler to America, it's what was discussed in the two-minute mark is this video. Hitler had conflicting views on America, but shared Manifest Destiny but instead of West, it was East (Soviet Union). So, when people say they could have won the war if they did not invade, he Soviet Union, he was always going to invade! (Manifest Destiny)
The US Army: "We have made a terrible, terrible mistake in the force removal of the Natives."
Cheif Joseph: "So can I go back to the lands of my fathers?"
The US Army: "Truly a terrible, terrible mistake."
Bureaucracy at its finest.
Forlorn Hope isn’t a designation specific to a unit, it was a term used for the initial wave of a siege attack going back to the Middle Ages.
It is both. It was in fact a designation used specifically for that group in Vicksburg.
Very powerful
I don't know if you have seen them but Jeremy Clarkson's documentaries about the Saint Nazaire Raid and The Victoria Cross are really great. They could make for a great reaction. I have seen other military and history channels react to them.
Keep up the good work ❤
I love my country, i love its diverse land and wildlife.... i really dont like what we did to get it. We stole something amazing from the Indians, i cant help but think what things would be like if Europeans never settled here.
You think someone else would take over? Would the Indians just keep on living like they did or would they have changed as a people by now? Would Indians join in on global trade and modernize, would they isolate themsleves?
How would Europe fair without a country seperated by a ocean to join in on conflict? Especially ww1 and ww2, you think an Indian nation would hop into those wars when they happened, or would they see it as not their war to fight no matter what?
I would to see you react more of them especially the episode of The Terrifying Collapse of the Plains Indians which involves my people of the Lakota and many other tribes.
As for the treaties that the tribes had signed with the U.S. to a certain point in time they were done as any treaty between nations such as the 1868 Fort Laramie treaty that my people of Lakota, Dakota, Nakota, and a few other tribes signed, but after that the tribes have gotten weaker because game hunters started hunting the bison either for sport or just take the hide leaving the carcass to riot or dealing with the rapid spread of small pox and other similar diseases often spread from infected items given by traders. The U.S Army didn’t win because they were better equipped and better trained, but mainly because the tribes had barely enough food to feed everyone and weakened because of disease. So many of the Chiefs came to sign these clearly unfair treaties not because their warrior spirits were beaten, but the Chiefs knew if they didn’t sign these treaties meant dooming their entire tribe to either lead, disease, or starvation. This is why Chiefs like Red Cloud, Sitting Bull, and Crazy Horse ultimately stop fighting and to surrender. They believed that fighting would save their tribes and when they saw that their people that the Chiefs has sworn place above themselves were starving and dying.
React to Gustavus Adolphus the father of modern warfare
While Indian wars continued on until 1924 it was evident the Wild West was disappearing and Chief Joseph's struggle to preserve the Nez Perce culture and way of life symbolized the preservation of the old West. The idea of the Wild West was romanticized and Nez Perce War was a tombstone marking the end of that era.
During the course of the tribe’s 1,400-mile fighting retreat, 800 Nez Percé warriors valiantly defended their tribe against 2,000 U.S. soldiers in four major battles and numerous skirmishes. U.S. General William Tecumseh Sherman expressed admiration for the tribe’s battle strategy, saying they “fought with almost scientific skill, using advance and rear guards, skirmish lines, and field fortifications against a technically and numerically superior force.”
History has largely remembered Chief Joseph as a military genius-a perception that, as I understand it, Howard promoted. After all, if his opponent was wily and skillful, that would better excuse Howard’s difficulty in running him down.
Howard, for his part, argued that the Nez Perce had been treated unfairly from the get-go, even if that didn’t prevent him from leading forces against them. Chief Joseph places the blame for the entire conflict squarely on Howard’s shoulders. “If General Howard had given me plenty of time to gather up my stock and treated Too-hool-hool-suit [another Nez Perce leader] as a man should be treated,” he said, “there would have been no war.”
I agree with Joseph if Howard had given Joseph time there would have been no war.
Nice vid
I think you would enjoy Kings & Generals series on Thomas Cochrane
Andre Dutra is a great channel that talks about mid 1900s presidential politics that I would love to see your opinion on
Please check out their Hawaii episode, it's so good.
A truly lamentable period.
History Dose has a couple of other vids on this subject - the Collapse of the Plains Indians and the Indian-Spanish war. Oh and the Haida in Canada
Hey VTH, I know it was a few months ago, but WatchMojo did a Top 10 Worst Presidents video, and I would LOVE to see you react to it.
Seems like you enjoyed the email I sent you. Question for you: How do you get used to your face not being mirrored in the editing and the sound of your voice on a recording? You normally hear your voice through the vibrations in your skull.
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So much of this reminds me of the Highland clearance in Scotland after the Jacobite rebellion of 1745; where the Hanoverian regime decided for better or worse that having clans which could continue to support the Stuart claim was not to be permitted, such that they were cleared from their lands. The villages and farming crofts and the people who lived on the land replaced with sheep (which were seen as more profitable and less troublesome).
Most of displaced went over the sea to the 13 colonies as a form of freedom from the oppression they had suffered post 1745 and become a hard working and industrious addition to the future United States, although only the following generations would have the choice of sticking it back to the Hanoverian king in 1776 on behalf of their Parents and Grandparents -Scots have long and bitter memories of "English" oppression but it does not help your cause when your Scottish king is gifted the English throne in 1601 only to have their claims to it thrown away by stupidity of his son Charles ( in 1649) and grandson James who never learned the lesson of his father's demise (in 1689).
It may be a "Different" story but it has a similar outcome on the basic level.
Watch the Japanese and mongol video from these guys
Strange to see that the US did not keep the french canadien "Nez Percés " pronunciation (Né Percé)(=pierced noses )
Sometimes we Anglicize, sometimes we don't. No rhyme or reason, although I think it was more common to leave the French or Spanish pronunciation starting in the 20th century with new words.
@@jackmessick2869 Navajo is still pronunced Navarro in the US?
As a French speaker... it took me 2 minutes before I realised the name looks like "pierced noses".... nez = nose (but pronounced nay), percé = pierced....
From wikipedia: Their name for themselves is nimíipuu (pronounced [nimiːpuː]), meaning, "The People", in their language, part of the Sahaptin family.[23]
Nez Percé is an exonym given by French Canadian fur traders who visited the area regularly in the late 18th century, meaning literally "pierced nose". English-speaking traders and settlers adopted the name in turn. Since the late 20th century, the Nez Perce identify most often as Niimíipuu in Sahaptin.[23] This has also been spelled Nee-Me-Poo. The Lakota/ Dakota named them the Watopala, or Canoe people, from Watopa. After Nez Perce became a more common name, they changed it to Watopahlute. This comes from pahlute, nasal passage, and is simply a play on words. If translated literally, it would come out as either "Nasal Passage of the Canoe" (Watopa-pahlute) or "Nasal Passage of the Grass" (Wato-pahlute).[24] The Assiniboine called them Pasú oȟnógA wįcaštA, the Arikara sinitčiškataríwiš.[25] The tribe also uses the term "Nez Perce", as does the United States Government in its official dealings with them, and contemporary historians. Older historical ethnological works and documents use the French spelling of Nez Percé, with the diacritic. The original French pronunciation is [ne pɛʁse], with three syllables.
I swear. This kind of history needs to be taught more. The whole American fundamentalism argument of “we never do wrong” is completely false.
I grew up in a conservative area and was never taught "we never do no wrong". In fact, my (often conservative) teachers were quite poignant about horrible stuff we did in the past. The difference though is that that's not ALL they taught, as opposed to some other teachers whose whole premise seems to be "we never do any good". Might explain why so many kids hate their own country these days.
That is interesting. Can you give me the names? I'd love to check it out. We're theirs revoked at first also, and then reinstated? Or was there something obvious as to why they kept theirs and she didn't, or even obvious sexism in the early 1900s? I do remember that Andrews, of the train raiders, did not get one even though executed for his adventure supposedly only because he was not a soldier but only a civilian. Who's to claim the US government has ever been consistent one way or the other.
Yes I kept thinking that all along
I love your channel ❤. Do you think human sacrifice ever occurred at Teotihaucan?
I'm from Oregon so I am familiar with this war.
Being someone from Alberta, Canada: this was difficult to watch. Both Canada & the United States have a dark past, regarding the treatment of the Indeginous Tribes.
Thank you Chris, for sharing this video & your thoughts.
10:00 Arresting neutral parties to this conflict has to come back to bite them in the ass later, doesn't it?
Sure, the thread of other tribes seeing the success and being emboldened to strike out, too, is great. But these arrest practically force the other tribes to revolt, since their freedom is forfeit anyway.
You should react to his Mongol videoes
Native Americans had tribal cultures. And they usually were not authoritarian. This is one reason the leaders of the early colonies spent most of their effort to keep the colonists from going native.
A chief could tell the warriors not to raid.. but they had no police force to stop the m . And because you made a deal with one Blackfoot tribe that does not find another tribe. And of course we made these deals and then immediately ignored them. Even pretending that the goal was not always from the beginning to eradicate native Americans and take their land is laughable. The US government regularly made treaties with native tribes and then immediately ignored them. There is not one treaty that we have not violated despite the Constitution saying treaty law is the supreme law of the land.
A fantastic example of this is d a p l. Pper treaty dateland belongs to the native Americans who were protesting. This is current law. However in the 1800s the US government simply decided to legally take the land by force. The law says this is their land but the government doesn't care.
By the way there is no record of North American natives committed genocide.
Collective guilt is a horrible thing.
Bro this just makes me disappointed not only from what we did to the Indians but also what we did to the wildlife
31:50 just look at the Comanche
Don't even try to compare the Comanches to wvery other tribe as much as you would like to imagine some tribes were peacfull.some were peacfull at first but turned to wars as settlers Started killing people or the army started invading their lands. And other were in a constant state of raiding
Been to yellowstone in late 1990s when i was 7 great national park although i almost stepped in buffalo crap 😂
I really don't want to stir things up with this question, but do other people see parallels between this story and the Gaza conflict right now?
Fascinating. I’ve wanted to see more about the Native Americans on history channels but it was almost like this part of US history was being avoided. Horrible, horrible treatment of these people. Glad that the contemporary white people acknowledged they were wrong. Is it any better for native Americans now…? 😢🇬🇧
Good comments on the Medal of Honor. To keep its reputation untarnished, the Army tried to clean up many of those non-appropriate medals in the early 1900s. One in particular that did not belong, especially for a civilian and not a combattant, was Dr. Mary Walker. But, pandering politicians in the late 1970s gave it back to her once again. Now we have a military installation named after her, all unequally awarded. Had she been a man, she came no where near meeting the requirements. But, that's ok. Some people feel better about themselves, and whom really cares about the integrity of the Medal of Honor process.
To be fair, when Mary Walker's Medal of Honor was revoked, two men of the exact same status (ie. civilian surgeon contractors) were allowed to keep theirs. So saying "Had she been a man" is probably a bad framing here -- had she been a man, there's contemporary evidence is that she might have been allowed to keep it.
Westward expansion is very interesting, lots more has to be brought to light. The idea of manifest destiny is fulfilled by Mexican War however on the subject of morality the country fails to realise the value of their own words.
I hate to be the pronunciation N*zi, but is "Nez Perce" pronounced the way it is in the song by the prog rock band "Wally". It sounds a lot nicer, that's all.
Edit: just Googled it, this video is using an accepted way to say it in English.
you can’t both sides a genocide which is what this is, and for the indigenous people, they are wholly justified in using force to defend themselves from the people who are trying to wipe them out and occupy their land
The commentator lives off of the benefits that came from the people who believed in manifest destiny.
I find the idea that we now weep and complain over those wars that gave us this country including states you all live in.
The entire world is made up of people who believe it was their manifest destiny to control more land and most every Indian tribe was trying to inflict will on the neighboring tribes
Scenario: "We don't want to look like those nasty empire building Europeans, but we want those western lands. Hmmm..."
Solution: "We'll just call it 'Manifest Destiny' and if it looks bad later we'll blame it on European settlers, not us Americans."