【N5】Genki 1 Lesson 8 Grammar Made Clear | JAPANESE SHORT FORM CONJUGATION and more
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0:00 Intro
1:34 Short Forms in Japanese (Negative)
7:51 Short Forms in Informal Speech
19:11 How to Say "I Think..." in Japanese
27:09 How to Say "They said..." in Japanese
32:33 How to Say "Please don't..." in Japanese
36:39 Nominalizing Sentences
41:49 The Subject Particle が
48:50 How to say "something" and "nothing" in Japanese
53:09 Question Time
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Mary and Takeshi shipping is so cannon
Story got me on the edge of my seat fr
Just started to read this chapter, it really daunted me and made me wonder if I am wasting my time learning Japanese, making me think I would take for ever to understand it. I am just going to take a break, come back to it tomorrow, and keep plodding through it. Sorry for the venting, hahah.
Vent away!
It can definitely be overwhelming at times. Taking a break, like you did, and coming back with fresh eyes is sometimes the best bet!
But don't worry! It's not a waste of time. You can do it!
@@ToKiniAndy Thanks Andy, that was just the encouragement I needed!
I came back the next day and found it much easier. It's funny how we have moments like that! Haha.
I hope you stayed with it, I had a difficult time with the 1st verb chapter but eventually broke through it. If I quit now in 2 years I could have been farther and would be upset with myself
Wwwwwwwewwww😅wow
It’s been three years since your post. How are you doing on your Japanese now?
I just started learning Japanese. I need some encouragement.
after watching the 7 previous lessons, now I have the habit of liking your videos before watching 😂😂
Great video! I was surprised to see you don't have more followers considering the quality of your content, hope you grow quickly and thanks for the video!
Thank you Todd. Considering my channel is relatively new, I'm happy with the current growth! Thank you for stopping by! =)
I checked 日本語基本文法辞典 for the nominalizing の since i wanted to go into a little more depth than Genki does and found that they describe the difference between the nominalizing の and こと as follows:
の is generally used when the clause expresses something concrete and perceptible, and when the speaker feels close to the thing being nominalized, such as being personally involved or percieving it.
事 is generally used when the clause expresses something abstract, or when the speaker is not particularly attached to the thing being nominalized. (this might explain it being more common formally?)
The example they use that i found helpful is 小説を書く*こと*は難しい vs 小説を書く*の*は難しい, with the former stating a general and objective fact that writing a novel is difficult and the latter saying "Writing a novel is hard (and I know personally)"
Of course, i'm just learning this myself. All I've done is paraphrased what seemed important to me, maybe I'll look back at this and feel like I skimmed over something important! but hopefully this is still helpful to someone. 日本語基本文法辞典 also contains a short list of common verbs and adjectives along with which nominalizer is generally appropriate (and obviously goes far more in depth on these grammar points) for anyone who wants to take a further look.
Great vid, thanks for doing the non chat interaction.
For 43:40 ish, One thing for the が particle when used as a subject marker to help me is to have "as for" kind of translation for it like people use for は (at least for anyone watching this vid, because Andy obviously knows this):
は: "As for/Speaking about *topic* *quality*"
が: "Out of everything else, *topic* *quality*".
So for the first example sentence アボカドが好きです, instead of thinking about it as capitalized, it can be translated as something like "out of everything else, avocados are the things I like". が singles out the one thing,.
I also read that が generally marks new information to the listener which is why question words are used with it, because asking a question means the listener (who gives the answer) will provide you with new information to fill in the blank of what you don't know (and they will also use が). So for the above example, the listener might know you like certain kinds of food, but you're making sure they know avocados are the things you like.
日本語を勉強するのがすき！ありがとうございました！
I honestly wish you were my teacher. I'm seriously struggling on these later chapters for class.
Great content! I've been learning Japanese using your videos along with having my Genki 1 beside throughout the session ^^
I really appreciate the work that you do! Currently taking Japanese 2 in college, and its been a great class, and I have an awesome sensei. That being said, your lessons from the perspective of someone who studied and learned Japanese as a foreign language has been invaluable as a supplemental tool for really drilling home what we are learning in class, and getting a different perspective on the subject matter. Considering she is a native speaker, I think that sensei forgot what it was like to learn Japanese, and sometimes can gloss over very important points that to her are intuitive, but for us quite counter intuitive. You've definitely helped me to maintain an A and excel! Thanks so much
That's awesome to here! Thank you! I'm so glad I've been able to help. ☺️
You are a live saver! Thank you, Andy and Yuki! ✨
You're welcome! Thank you for watching!
Wow I should've started looking at these Genki videos when I started. Thanks for the explanations 💯
I'm so glad I found your page searching for Genki Listening Comprehension for my online Japanese class in college. This is super helpful. My professor is good and kind, but she speeds through class expecting you to understand immediately after going over 2 examples..
ありがとうございます、お疲れ様です！
Many many examples are needed to really drive a point home. =) I'm glad that you are finding them helpful. Thank you for watching!
Exceptional content. Thank you Andy.
Thanks a lot for uploading this videos. Extremely helpful.
this is going to take a while to process and digest, but this video was extremely help and def cleared up a lot of previous mistakes I was making!!
Greatest teacher ever! The concepts were clearly explained. Thank you for helping me out with this chapter 🙏🏾
I know you probably won't see this comment, but this was by far my most important lesson. As my goals for learning Japanese are to consume manga and anime in JP, I've always found it weird that I was yet to see anyone talk about informal (or casual) Japanese, which is used a lot more in manga and anime, as the characters talking are usually close to each other.
I've started my learning experience with formal Japanese, and I don't mind learning about it more than informal, but getting exposure to informal is very beneficial to me for my purposes. I was so weirded out when I reached my 2 month milestone and thought "wait a minute, I hardly recall any anime characters ever saying "です", what's up with that?", so learning informal is great!
アイスクリームを食べるのが好きです。
Thanks Andy
What a good lesson
Thank you for this video! Your examples are incredibly helpful. This lesson was so fun!!
Thank you! I'm happy to hear that you found it helpful!
Thanks for the breakdown! Your explanations help out a lot when my eyes get tired of working through the genki workbook. You just got yourself a new course subscriber!
I'm glad to hear that you are finding these helpful! Thank you! I hope you can find the course helpful too!
Oh and I played it at 90 percent speed so bc my brain couldn't keep up with your words! Super helpful lesson -- thank you!~
Another awesome video! Thank you :) Really helps!!
Thank you for watching! I'm happy to hear it helps!
lifesaver, honestly think if not for these videos I would never understand the concepts.
Been doing Genki I during my summer vacation and these videos have been very helpful, thanks a bunch Andy.
I'm happy to hear that! Many more to come.
Thank you for watching. ☺️
I just took a 2 month break and returned to this chapter. Very helpful video I’m surprised at how much I remember and also how much I don’t lol.
This is amazing! Thank you!
You're welcome!
I don't always have motivation to study japanese, and so my pace has been quite slow. These videos always get me excited to continue learning though!
I'm surprised these videos don't have more views omg!!! They are very comprehensive. It's really helpful since I had to take Japanese 102 online this year... (My university is all online due to COVID)
I'm happy to hear that you have found them useful! I'm still a relatively new channel, so there is plenty of time for them to get some attention. =)
Thank you for watching!
Super helpful, thank you very much.
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
日本語を勉強するのが大好き！
Great vid man! I want to suggest making a quick recap vid of the first book so derps like me can remember the most important stuff of each chapter. Keep up the good work! And thanks for the helpfull vids!
That is something I would like to do at some point. I'm trying to figure out how I could keep a video like that UNDER 2 hours long though... haha
@@ToKiniAndy yhea, makes sense... I would also like to compliment you on your dedication to your channel. The way you make the time to read every comment and listen to your subscribers is really cool. Thanks for the great content!
ありがとう!
こちらこそありがとう！
そういえば、本当に日本語を勉強するのが好きだと思います！とっても楽して面白いだよね～ （少しい難しいもｗｗ）
I was about to move on to lesson 9 but I just now realized that お父さんは歌うのが好きだと言った works
You can have のが and と言った in the same sentence
I was doing the final exercise in the book of lesson eight and I realized that it was asking me to make sentences like, “my dad said that he likes to sing”. That is not the same as, “my dad likes to sing”. That’s kind of cool that you can combine the two
Well, time for lesson 9. (Past tense short forms)
I'm glad you pointed out that no one here really minds you using informal Japanese as a foreigner here. I've known a few people, including myself, who were really worried about insulting people by using informal Japanese so much that it makes you forget which words to use. Lol
In general, I think its a part of a double-edged sword of learning Japanese. You get a lot of leeway, but you're always exceeding expectations as well. For example, I guarantee that no matter how long you've been living here, nor how fluent you are in the language, that even you (Andy) still get the "あっ、日本語上手！" comments 😆
And suddenly, all the dialogue we hear in anime and Japanese dramas make a heck of a lot more sense 😅
ありがとう！
とんでもない！ 見てくれてありがとうございます！
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edit: 5/19/2021
where have you been man, why didn't i know about you until i finished this lesson
Made it to 8!!!!
Thanks
Thank you so much @Japarama!
@@ToKiniAndy the minimum I could do…. been enjoying these videos!
バスケットボールをするのが好きです。
What I just realized is you can translate 'toitteimasu' to 'with them saying', as the 'to' particle is often similar to 'with' and 'itteimasu' is just 'saying'. Clicks in my head more easily than the straight 'they said' translation.
Awesome video! Just checking: The whole negative adjective business really is pretty much the negating we learned in Chapter 5, minus the desu, right?
Random question/thought about ”夏はスイカがだい好き” "I like watermelon a lot during the summer" I feel like I would have said...夏に or even 夏で , but は is used?
37:38 is it possible to replace は for が. Or must you use が every time?
I must be Japanese because I understand why I'd say 'でしょう' and add 'と思います' . It's because it's humble to recognize that we do not know the future. Some may notice that Japanese really has no special future tense. つもり is used to show intention. My life has rarely gone to a schedule or the way one would wish.
Both Shinto and Buddhism may indicate our existence as being a part of the environment, just as Indigenous Australians traditionally feel they are a part of the land.
Today, more than ever, people aware of reality, may live each day as if their last.
is there specific situations where 何の is more appropriate than どんな when asking "what kind of...?" or is it just personal preference?
Dear Andy, when you speak in your mind to yourself, do you use short forms? And Japanese people?
Thank you for the list of exceptions at 5:52 ! My edition of Genki didn't really address those, and I was really confused for a bit. Wonderful lesson as always, thanks for the video!
Yeah, I dont know why genki doesnt really mention them
Great video as always! I do have a question about Nominalizing Sentences. It's almost seeming to me like you would use noga (or kotoga) as if it was a wa particle (eg. regarding taking a bath, I like it). Would wa also be correct here and, if so, what's the difference really between wa and noga in their uses for this?
More so than は, it acts like the subject particle が. Because that’s what it is. The の and こと do the nominalizing, and the が is just the が particle. You could also use を here instead if you want to ACT on the nominalized phrase. 😊
You can’t use は alone without nominalizing, and in this case it would be more of the contrast は than just the topic particle (which I talk about more in my short は vs が video).
I hope that makes sense!
諸説をよむのがだいすきです！
I'm in a weird stage where even when I don't recognize a Kanji sometimes parts of it stand out. Like how sing has two little phrase Kanji stacked up. Sometimes this works but other times it fails spectacularly.
It’s so weird. In around early January I randomly started liking Japan and Japanese. I still do like it it’s just I find it weird how it’s so sudden I just so suddenly started liking it
It will happen a lot in your life. Suddenly you'll be really into something and not know why. Same for when you stop liking things. =)
@@ToKiniAndy I’m obviously not gonna stop but when I plan on moving to japan (2023), I plan on attending language school because I’m really not a good teacher when it comes to teaching myself . Today I learned the positive and negative informal present tense and it’s pretty straight forward.
I really wanna learn
I can
I could
I would
In japanese
Hello Andy!
Can が be used instead of を,で、orに to add emphasis?
Also can you use Direction + が + movement verb/noun?
Hi there.
To answer your first question: It depends on the sentence.
And for your second question: No, you can't.
Thank you for watching! =)
19:26 - “I think . . .”
27:31 - “They said . . .”
32:43 - “Please don’t . . .”
can you do a Video on Nihongo so matome N3 please ! thanks...really good teacher!
Funny, I'd never heard of this. I just looked it up on Amazon, and realized that my friend had given me a copy of the N2 Grammar version of this. I'll have to take a look at it. (^_^) Thank you for watching.
@@ToKiniAndy Im still starting out, I am a Junior Doctor from Malta studying Japanese while battling Covid. Your videos are a welcome break during the Chaos on the wards. I have something to look forward too. Thank you for the inspiration to help me continue striving to study a new language!
Hey Andy. I have been working through the textbook exercises and checking with the answer key. I have been doing some of the tasks for nominalising sentences and have noticed that sometimes the の in のが is sometimes dropped.
For example: they ask for a translation of "Mary is good at cooking" so I wrote 「メアリーさんは料理するのが上手です。」, but the answer key lists the correct answer as 「メアリーさんは料理が上手です。」
I'm starting to think that you only use のが for verbs and you can just use が for nouns, but this isn't explained in Genki. Am I right? I was wondering if you could help explain this. Thanks!
Hey Will,
The difference there is that 料理 is on it's own, a noun, so you can use it like one. The second sentence says she is good at the NOUN 料理, while your sentence means she is good at DOING 料理. They are both correct.
So, long story short, yes. You are correct. のが allows you to modify a verb like you could a noun.
@@ToKiniAndy Thanks!!! And double thanks for such a prompt reply! I guess it’s like in English you can say, “I’m good at tennis” as opposed to “playing tennis”? 😁
Sorry to bother you, but I was just looking at 13:51, and I am under the impression that the 開 furigana should be ひら instead of い? Please correct me if I am wrong
22:48
So if you have to put だ after a noun/adjective before と shouldn’t the first 2 examples also have a だ before the と?
Or is it that you don’t have to do that with い-adjectives?
nouns and na adjective you add da. I adjectives you don't need it.
at 42:40, you said dare ga iku? Shouldn't it be dare TO iku?
Something that kind of annoyed me before I knew informal speech: pretty much all textbooks teach formal first with the justification "it's better to be too polite than too casual". Great, but if someone speaks casual to me, I won't understand (from the point of view of past me that is). I know they have to teach SOMETHING first but the fact pretty much all textbooks do leaves very few options and as I pointed out, the reasoning does not hold in real life. They could even say at the same time "here is the casual form"
I agree that Wasabi is not spicy. It gives me the same sensation as mildly spiced mustard.
What is the difference of Ki ni shinaide and Shinpai shinaide?
6:43 Interestingly enough, it's the other way around when we negate verbs and adjectives with ない. Negated adjectives still look like adjectives; they end with い like normal, don't they? So instead it's negated verbs that literally turn into adjectives with ない. As in "読ま無い", written like this to show that the negative form is derived using the adjective 無い.
Indeed. Be careful not to write them with the kanji in real life though. ;-)
A. 日本語を勉強することが好きです。そして、アニメをみることが好きですよ。
いいですね！
Question: 23:57: I don't think Wasabi is spicy, but isn't it actually I think Wasabi is not spicy? Because I don't think spicy and I think not spicy is a bit different...
genki says it's more natural to say the equivalent of 'I think ___ is not ___' than 'I don't think ___ is ___', even though in english those mean slightly different things. i couldn't say how accurate that is.
So short forms are the same as informal form? I got my self a bit confused on that?
Yup!
I have a question. In the textbook Lesson 8 in practice section has ( Genki Janai) and Lesson 12 vocabulary section has ( Genki Ga Nai). im not confused 😂😂😂
37:50
19:13 is where I ended
If 〇〇と言っています means "They said ....", How do I say "I said....?"
what is the "btw" meaning in Japanese i couldn't find
chinamini okey ı watched it again
this video made me realize i’m not smart enough to continue learning japanese:/
you cute homie
私は歌うのが好きです
Am I allowed to say
勉強するのが好きです
I read something on Genki that said 勉強が好きです
Can I say either or
In this situation, both are fine. =)
@@ToKiniAndy Am I allowed to always use のが as long as the verb is informal? Or is there something I haven’t learned yet like exceptions or something because I wouldn’t be surprised
@@Nathan-sq9xv のが allows you to treat whatever comes before it as a noun. So yeah, as long as the verb that comes before is in an informal conjugation, you're good to go.
@@ToKiniAndy thank you sir
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19:15
27:20
The thing I don’t get is why does genki randomly start using transitive and intransitive verbs without bringing anything up of when it’s used? I know when it’s used cuz I spent 1-2 weeks trying to understand. It doesn’t make sense y they don’t even mention the difference
Because it's not an exclusively Japanese thing. Transitive and Intransitive verbs exist in most languages (maybe all?), including English. Genki doesn't bother covering what grammatical terms mean. They expect that it was taught in English class. ;-)
@@ToKiniAndy oh alright, thx
少年アニメをよく見る。
why is the short form of 開ける 開いて
It's not. The Te form of 開ける is 開けて
開いて is the Te form of 開く
@@ToKiniAndy that makes so much more sense, thanks for the fast reply too!
I thought 4 nen sai desu means 4 years old
4 SAI means 4 years old. 4 NEN SEI means 4th year student.
Is it rude to say 知りません as opposed to わかりません
It depends on the situation, but for some things it would sound rude, yes.
@@ToKiniAndy thank you
I'm about to give up, it's become too messy for me , sadly
there is no need to give, sometimes just simply taking one step back is all you need. just keep learning, you will thank yourself in the future.
DONT give up! Even if you understand something just 1% more each day, that’s still progressive. So after 30 days of only getting 1% more of anything, you’ll be 30% better than you were before! When studying gets tedious, I like to take a break and just listen to N5 level podcasts. You’ll be surprised how much you actually know. ❤
@@cinimynn4342 thanks for the motivation, that's actually helpful 🥹
Thinking to start again..!
@@P0K0 idk what personally motivated u to start learning japanese, but for me it was to ble able to read one piece in japanese. find your own motivation and dont give up
why do you pronounce WA as VA?