For Regular Content Battle Trolling like Raids outside of Survival, you could use full controller gear instead of full dps, but have might based mods and might and power spec in skill points. Controller gear is not too far behind in might stats overall from DPS gear but gives good vitalization not to mention dominance for stunning and shield supercharges. This way you will have enough might to put out considerable damage with your powers and the Claw of Aelkhund artifact will boost your might further while the 21% vit from 7 other members can make up the lack of vit mods and skill points. And because you are might based, you will constantly spam debuf attacks to do damage, debuf enemy and give power with the parasite artifact at the same time. If you have enough skill points and with enough power, you should have no trouble sustaining your power through your p.o.t. natural power regen, soders, supply drops , etc. It is necessary to rank claws up to 160 first and the Parasite artifact to at least 120, the amount of xp to boost the Parasite artifact to 160 for a measly 1 percent difference is a joke and is better used on other artifacts first.
I will still never advocate for controllers to be in a "battle troll" spec for regular raids unless 1) its their own league and they are aware 2) older content. If a controller is just queing up a pug with the claw it is disrespectful to the group to have 7 members completely change their playstyle just so a controller can use the claw and do a bit more damage then they don't need to be doing damage in the first place and that's why there are 4-5 DPS in the group on average. There are plenty of powersets that are FOTM that dps go (rage, nature, earth, gadgets) that their melee combos will not be covered just by the POT tick on the claw. Not to mention if its an elite run your pot tick will drop each time there is a death and a player is out because you will lose the % vit increase from that player being alive for the claw proc. No group will complete raids just because their controller was a battle troll, there is no group that all of a sudden completed FOAE or SGE because their controller did a few mil more dmg. It's a niche spec that is only amplified out of necessity because of survival mode and not a playstyle I endorse outside of 4man content which don't really require a controller initially anyways.
@@ObsidianChill My comment is just a theory based off the fact that the parasite harness at 120 gives power equal to 8% of total vit and with the latest gear is a decent amount of power per debuf along with the larger P o t ticks from the aelkhund artifact. I tend to use might based powers allot when dpsing so if applied to controller with debuf attacks the amount of power should be decent. I never have power issues as I have allot of sp and I have stuff like replenishing adapter, artifact soder, supply drop when needed. This theory is to aim to change my own playstyle without affecting the team negatively but also doing more to help out, again this is a Theory I am aiming to try out, will comment again the result once I get my artifacts ranked up enough and perform enough tests with various loadouts. either way my theory probably would not work out so well if someone is like under 400 sp.
I am a quantum troll and wanted to do a battle troll build and this was really helpful but I, through curiosity, have made an alternative battle troll build, I specked as you suggest and my prec damage was not bad at all and out of curiosity I wondered what would happen if I specked might instead of prec. So same gear, skill points into damage and healing crits then max out might & power and the rest in Vit. Changed my artefacts to solar amp, amulet & grim and with the usual single target loadout I dropped grav field and added in Singularity and Temp Extortion I was stunned that my damage was substantially better than the prec offering. I am probably biased cos to be honest I find the spam flurry shot boring to play with so this has been a pleasant find. Running it in SM and keeping up with the regular dps's so cant be bad. Have you done a might alternative or am I missing some reason not to do this?
Hey bro you've inspired me to make a prec gadgets. I got this loadout saved but what is the best straight up prec loadout for gadgets when we have a battle troll or in elite content? My league all watch your videos and talk about you and your load Outs a lot! I watch all your stuff so I can help everyone that needs it. If you don't respond I still wanna thank you for all your help!!
we shouldnt talk about battle-something on youtube, cause the kids with their 150SP and 270cr who cant even play a good support because of their mindset ("dmg is the key-monkeys") think they can go a battle-something-role and do dmg as the DD ( yeah the role is not called "DPS" guys, learn it!), so that the raids are going to lack of real good healer, troll, tanks and the "LFG-Chat" will be full of searching for battle-support roles. I appreciate your work and that u are still playing but you help to push the really bad mindset which is actually there in dcuo to go even further into even more DD-only players. The DD-players DCUO has, are already playing like braindead and there is only 1 of 100 who is acceptable, not even good ( i am talking not only about their ego-high-dmg stats but about their teamplay also). This game has...sorry had potencial but the P2W AND the community of idiots had broken it and made me leave the game forever now. I had fun at Odyssey, HTF and Luxuria time, but thats the past...
Gerulf The german Ulf On average I usually end up soloing last boss in raids or alerts when I pug because most players are well under 250 sp and have no idea how to use their powers. Thank god I’m a tank.
Kiryu i played tank, too and I suppose some players remember my name on EU. Well, but having such a kind of pug doesn't make fun to play the game where Teamplay should be.
Thanks for vid ObsidianChillDCUO :) I'm hoping to get to a high round as Quantum battle Troll, this will help somewhat. You have all accessories DPS gear and the rest of the gear controller?
Yes. it's mostly for the vit for a decent pot and dom for shield strength since you don't get dom from troll stance anymore. If you reach a point where your shields aren't needed or seem like they're helping, just put on dps gear full out.
For a power troll, specifically artifacts, would you run claw, philosopher stone, and trident? Because I could see that combo working real good to boost others damage output.
for power troll its soul cloak, parasite power harness and amulet. Philosopher's stone isn't good as an artifact, deadking helps your own trinket cooldowns but won't help you give more power out to the group compared to the others
You mix in dps gear depending on what the power requirements are of your group. If they aren’t using much power at all you can run all dps gear but if power is lower you can wear half troll gear etc
ObsidianChillDCUO Okay that makes sense. What’s the ratio between Prec n vit- With 350 I can max out all crits n only max out Prec. Should I max Prec or go half n half ?. FYI I have full troll elite n dps gear.
perfect poise for acrobats is similar and in SM you can grapple line to a rez. Flight and Skimming are bad movements, unless you just like flight/skimming for your superhero cosplay or another reason you shouldn't be those movements anyways.
Hustle game hustle hard...I had 500mil until I split it up and bought every collection I needed and I still have at least 180mil worth of rates in my banks both shared n personal
@@MrMack49 I have 70 mill which is quite abit, but 2 bill is fucking ludicrous, you've got to spend real money on the game or save up for an extremely extremely long time for that much
#PrecSurvivalMode Smh
the 💩 pitiful & folks think they're good 😂
Nothing there
Don't lie to us Chill. This video was made for two purposes. 1. To show your flurry shot improvements and 2. Your shadow strike orbital 😭😂
just 1 more orbital strike to go :D hopefully it drops on R30
@@ObsidianChill goodluck
For Regular Content Battle Trolling like Raids outside of Survival, you could use full controller gear instead of full dps, but have might based mods and might and power spec in skill points.
Controller gear is not too far behind in might stats overall from DPS gear but gives good vitalization not to mention dominance for stunning and shield supercharges.
This way you will have enough might to put out considerable damage with your powers and the Claw of Aelkhund artifact will boost your might further while the 21% vit from 7 other members can make up the lack of vit mods and skill points.
And because you are might based, you will constantly spam debuf attacks to do damage, debuf enemy and give power with the parasite artifact at the same time.
If you have enough skill points and with enough power, you should have no trouble sustaining your power through your p.o.t. natural power regen, soders, supply drops , etc.
It is necessary to rank claws up to 160 first and the Parasite artifact to at least 120, the amount of xp to boost the Parasite artifact to 160 for a measly 1 percent difference is a joke and is better used on other artifacts first.
I will still never advocate for controllers to be in a "battle troll" spec for regular raids unless 1) its their own league and they are aware 2) older content. If a controller is just queing up a pug with the claw it is disrespectful to the group to have 7 members completely change their playstyle just so a controller can use the claw and do a bit more damage then they don't need to be doing damage in the first place and that's why there are 4-5 DPS in the group on average. There are plenty of powersets that are FOTM that dps go (rage, nature, earth, gadgets) that their melee combos will not be covered just by the POT tick on the claw. Not to mention if its an elite run your pot tick will drop each time there is a death and a player is out because you will lose the % vit increase from that player being alive for the claw proc. No group will complete raids just because their controller was a battle troll, there is no group that all of a sudden completed FOAE or SGE because their controller did a few mil more dmg.
It's a niche spec that is only amplified out of necessity because of survival mode and not a playstyle I endorse outside of 4man content which don't really require a controller initially anyways.
@@ObsidianChill My comment is just a theory based off the fact that the parasite harness at 120 gives power equal to 8% of total vit and with the latest gear is a decent amount of power per debuf along with the larger P o t ticks from the aelkhund artifact. I tend to use might based powers allot when dpsing so if applied to controller with debuf attacks the amount of power should be decent. I never have power issues as I have allot of sp and I have stuff like replenishing adapter, artifact soder, supply drop when needed. This theory is to aim to change my own playstyle without affecting the team negatively but also doing more to help out, again this is a Theory I am aiming to try out, will comment again the result once I get my artifacts ranked up enough and perform enough tests with various loadouts. either way my theory probably would not work out so well if someone is like under 400 sp.
I think a separate stat that should be displayed on the damage boards: damage boosted, just a number equal to any damage teammates gain by your buffs.
I am a quantum troll and wanted to do a battle troll build and this was really helpful but I, through curiosity, have made an alternative battle troll build, I specked as you suggest and my prec damage was not bad at all and out of curiosity I wondered what would happen if I specked might instead of prec. So same gear, skill points into damage and healing crits then max out might & power and the rest in Vit. Changed my artefacts to solar amp, amulet & grim and with the usual single target loadout I dropped grav field and added in Singularity and Temp Extortion I was stunned that my damage was substantially better than the prec offering. I am probably biased cos to be honest I find the spam flurry shot boring to play with so this has been a pleasant find. Running it in SM and keeping up with the regular dps's so cant be bad. Have you done a might alternative or am I missing some reason not to do this?
Thanks this was highly needed
Hey bro you've inspired me to make a prec gadgets. I got this loadout saved but what is the best straight up prec loadout for gadgets when we have a battle troll or in elite content? My league all watch your videos and talk about you and your load Outs a lot! I watch all your stuff so I can help everyone that needs it. If you don't respond I still wanna thank you for all your help!!
Is this still viable for 2021 SM or you plan to do an update video? my only doubt would be if te venom wrist artifact still good for this?
Will do update for both prec and might
@@ObsidianChill SM is here let’s update this video if you need help let me know
Its about time
I used to play DCUO here and there back in the day. I made a gadgets toon on Xbox One. Why did they remove Intimidation from gadgets?
we shouldnt talk about battle-something on youtube, cause the kids with their 150SP and 270cr who cant even play a good support because of their mindset ("dmg is the key-monkeys") think they can go a battle-something-role and do dmg as the DD ( yeah the role is not called "DPS" guys, learn it!), so that the raids are going to lack of real good healer, troll, tanks and the "LFG-Chat" will be full of searching for battle-support roles. I appreciate your work and that u are still playing but you help to push the really bad mindset which is actually there in dcuo to go even further into even more DD-only players. The DD-players DCUO has, are already playing like braindead and there is only 1 of 100 who is acceptable, not even good ( i am talking not only about their ego-high-dmg stats but about their teamplay also). This game has...sorry had potencial but the P2W AND the community of idiots had broken it and made me leave the game forever now. I had fun at Odyssey, HTF and Luxuria time, but thats the past...
Gerulf The german Ulf On average I usually end up soloing last boss in raids or alerts when I pug because most players are well under 250 sp and have no idea how to use their powers. Thank god I’m a tank.
Kiryu i played tank, too and I suppose some players remember my name on EU. Well, but having such a kind of pug doesn't make fun to play the game where Teamplay should be.
The problem is the mass amount of glass cannon dps that want to eat up power. Not hybrid roles
sorry to ask but can you do 1 for Mental Battle Troll?
Thanks for vid ObsidianChillDCUO :) I'm hoping to get to a high round as Quantum battle Troll, this will help somewhat. You have all accessories DPS gear and the rest of the gear controller?
Yes. it's mostly for the vit for a decent pot and dom for shield strength since you don't get dom from troll stance anymore. If you reach a point where your shields aren't needed or seem like they're helping, just put on dps gear full out.
For a power troll, specifically artifacts, would you run claw, philosopher stone, and trident? Because I could see that combo working real good to boost others damage output.
for power troll its soul cloak, parasite power harness and amulet. Philosopher's stone isn't good as an artifact, deadking helps your own trinket cooldowns but won't help you give more power out to the group compared to the others
Hey obsidian is it possible to battle troll with hard light precision ? How would u go about it?
Would you mind doing a battle tank video?
Just curious, what would a power troll get out of this? Like if the troll were trying to pump out the biggest PoT, would this be one to consider?
NO
Is that good for regular content too?
Sunday was totally dead all day for SM rd 11
Did you make a video to how to get your chest and legs or something else
in my 5000 Q&A video I go through the style, the chest and legs are from 2015 and 2016 FoS Survival mode so the styles are no longer attainable :(
ObsidianChillDCUO that is sad
Where do you get the omac trinket and green crystal?
the omac trinket is a ultra rare vault drop and the green crystal is on the Survival Mode Season 1 Rewards vendor
You said you would need to run all dps gear yet in the video your armour pieces are troll and the non armours are dps?
You mix in dps gear depending on what the power requirements are of your group. If they aren’t using much power at all you can run all dps gear but if power is lower you can wear half troll gear etc
ObsidianChillDCUO Okay that makes sense. What’s the ratio between Prec n vit- With 350 I can max out all crits n only max out Prec. Should I max Prec or go half n half ?. FYI I have full troll elite n dps gear.
What about munitions battle troll?
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Obsidian can you get me harpoon hand?
Hello obsidian i want to ask something do you know which power is the best dps or funny thx
What if you're not superspeed I see you always have dash attack...but never show other movements
perfect poise for acrobats is similar and in SM you can grapple line to a rez. Flight and Skimming are bad movements, unless you just like flight/skimming for your superhero cosplay or another reason you shouldn't be those movements anyways.
@@ObsidianChill lol....my main is SP...but my main heal is flight....
@@MrMack49 flight and skimming just have the much weaker dmg movement powers and utility.
@@ObsidianChill OK thanks bro...I'll switch my heal(s) oh shit my tanks I have to switch them to🤣🤣🤣
What SM round are you on.
I'm proud to say my league mates made it to round 27 so far I hope they make it to 30
we're on r30
I got 250 sp is battle troll possible?
Right. I'm sitting here at 300 wondering if it'd be practical.
@@mgs1398 you would just have to wear controller gear over dps and don't put any SP into vit.
ObsidianChillDCUO Alright ty ty I’m going to give it a try
EU 1st lvl 30?
they are yes
How tf do you have 2 bill?
Hustle game hustle hard...I had 500mil until I split it up and bought every collection I needed and I still have at least 180mil worth of rates in my banks both shared n personal
@@MrMack49 I have 70 mill which is quite abit, but 2 bill is fucking ludicrous, you've got to spend real money on the game or save up for an extremely extremely long time for that much