boots won't save you if your foot is tuck in rock and you fall they do help a bit in general but am surprised that people actually think that small padding will save their ankles if if they fall
If I had to stick with one only, I'd still go with boots. I have Karrimor Mount both shoes and boots and I use shoes a lot since they are a lot lighter, cooler and just more pleasant to wear. Never had a problem with waterproofing with both of them. However, dirt and small rocks are finding their way in the shoes which annoys me. This happens a lot less with boots. Also, I feel safer in boots when climbing rocky terrain and having less movement in the ankle actually forces me to position myself properly for a climb, think about the obstacle I'm about to pass... Kinda making me more focused and in the moment.
I switched many many years ago. I much prefer being nimble and light on my feet. My current setup is 0 drop, wide toe box (two things not to overlook) Topo Athletic trail runners for 90% of my hikes in the UK. Then some Salomon hiking shoes with gaitors for the colder months. I do like the Salomon shoes, however my first pair holes developed very quickly on the sides of the toe box and the grips arent great in slick snow (other Salomons, even my trail runners were/are better). I can even see yours Andy are starting to create a tension point on the sides of the start of the toe box (make sure you keep the receipt). My current Salomons are my 6th pair (I replaced my gortex ones for leather shoes under warranty, to try help combat the toe box issue) and I feel the quality is going down/they just arent built to last. So once they're worn out I doubt I'll be getting more from them.
I had to stop using either. I'm a big guy, who gets very warm, sweaty and I've had issues with my achilles heel for years. The drop and cushion of hiking shoes/boots made my leg shoot with pain all day on a second day of a long hike. I live and hike around Scotland, wet most of the year so no membrane is going to protect me forever, especially when I don't use trousers most of the year and I'm usually hiking in shorts even in high winds and cool weather. So if it starts raining, doesn't matter if they are boots or shoes, they will wet out through my legs and socks. And then I have to walk in wet boots/shoes the next day cause they won't dry out. I've started using barefoot shoes for hiking, they give me the flexibility and zero-drop I needed for my achilles, they will wet out but also dry out very fast, keeping my feet mostly dry. The comfort is a bit iffy if you don't have experience using those shoes and your foot isn't used to the feedback from the ground. I do admit that my case is unusual though, for most cases I'd probably say hiking shoes are a winner!
Not true. Look at ski boots. There's almost no mobility in the ankles and none in the instep. Stiff hiking boots just shift the focus to the thighs which work better for some people (like me) and if you have weak ankles then stiff, high boots with good support can be a better option.
@robertashker9871 skiing is literally the sport with the highest knee injuries...loose your mobility in your ankles your knees will "make up for it" ie break up for it!
The problem with Salomon is the quality has really gone downhill over the last few years, online reviews of defects & premature wear is rife, so many complaints. You should try the Salomon Forces Edition, I didn’t even know these existed till a few months ago, developed for Military & special forces. I’ve just received my 4d Quest GTX forces 2 and they are built substantially better than the civilian version. There’s a massive difference, you can really tell, hopefully they last a really long time 😊 Furthermore, any mountain climbing, scrambling I’d always wear boots, unless it’s an easy climb like Skiddaw in the summer, Mountain rescue say ankle injuries caused by improper footwear is their number 1 call-out reason, I don’t think it’s fair on them risking it it trail running shoes etc.
@@BackpackingUK I think about 2 years ago Salomon changed their manufacturing location from Cambodia to Vietnam for some of their footwear, I couldn’t understand either, but a lot of the reviews were from people that had issues within the first 20-30miles of use, that’s what put me off buying the civilian Quest 4d, I noticed they are manufactured in Vietnam, compared to the Forces that are still manufactured in Cambodia. I definitely think there’s an issue, just depends which boot you have, luckily Salomon do honour their 2 year warranty, a little piece of mind.
Great vid Andy. I. Really like the shoes, I genuinely do see the point and others comments about ankles for a reason, However, many years ago I had both ankles broken in a road accident. Resulting in long term weak ankles. therefore I’ve opted for the boots for maximum ankle support. Funnily enough I’ve got Salomon GTX 4. Love them, very lightweight, extremely supportive and comfortable.
Thanks Andy interesting video. Why I found your channel was I went out this morning , its always this time of year when I realise I need to lose weight, wearing my Merrill boots and after walking 5 miles I had " hot foot ".It was all on pavement so given this I also have a pair of Merrill shoes so now after watching this I think I will give them a try & perhaps use my boots for rough terrain walking. You,ve gained another Sub.Thanks.
Its getting tougher finding comfortable footwear with so many brands facing issues. I have Salomon boots like yours but find them heavy and tiring. Looking to do the Great Glen Way which is fairly flat so need decent footwear that is forgiving on hard surfaces and trails, especially since I will be wildcamping and carrying a 58ltr backpack. Meindl and Keen suffer from delamination issues, mesh shoes aren't durable, some soles are better at gripping on wet surfaces than others. Jeezo. Looking at a mid cut boot now, wide toe box, orthopaedic insole, leather or suede type fabric. Great channel Andy. Atb.
I have lone peak6 altra which i wear most of the time.if terrain and weather look demanding i wear vivobarefoot boots.both for me are really comfy plus i like feeling the ground with its lumps and bumps.😅thanks for the review and the pro,s and cons.i,ve found buying outdoor gear a minefield of choice,all honest reviews help.cheers.
Ive the same Salomons and normally i love this brand but these im not to keen on these , i find the fit far smaller and they are soooo not waterproof in any way. Ive just got a pair of Saucony trail runners but id imagine ill rip these to bits in no time. In all honestly i find shoes like i find tents, I aint ever gonna tick all boxes. Grip and comfort seem to be the most important thing for me... Love the idea of boots but they just do not seem to work for me at all
ive just done 2 morning walks about 6m each and my toe is practically ripping its way out the front hahahah but its the colours hahahah i was trying to blend in to my surroundings and then boom these bright yellow things appeared in front of my eyes 😁
I've moved from wayerproof boots and shoes to non waterproof shoes (moab 3 vented) my feet stayed a lot cooler so i think its worth todking getting them wet. I'm sure walking in hot sweaty feet would be worse.
Used to love Salomon Boots but they are just never waterproof, and i find the grip deadly on wet rock. I have Adidas Terrex R2 Swift shoes and they are much better
I love your videos Andy but wouldn't hike in shoes, I hike in very rough terrain perfect for shredding trail runners and breaking ankles. I've also noticed that every time a UA-camr hiking complains of blisters, they're wearing shoes. Not a problem I've ever had in my big heavy boots ! Still each to their own. Keep those videos coming and ramble on. Cheers
Wrong question, with an old ankle injury its boots. I was also talking to a Mountain Guide and he says he sees more injuries with those wearing shoes. There's a good reason why boots and their origins were the choice.
Although this year, I’m seeing more people wear trail runners than hiking shoes and boots. Rightly or wrongly, footwear is changing fast, and the days where everyone wore boots are long gone.
do not buy solomon brand shoes, I bought mine and they fell apart within 6 months, I had to buy shoe gooo to keep them going and I literally had to glue the entire sole of the shoe to keep it from ripping off. no arch support uncomfortable. they suck.
No amount of leather is gonna save you from snapping your bones if you're walking on crazy terrain with a false sense of security... rather be able to feel the angles of the rocks I'm climbing on and not fall at all. Shoes for me.
I’ve got some La Sportiva’s and Inov-8’s. They are great but the soles aren’t good enough for long distance hikes (pressure points) and they are only waterproof to a point.
Having broken ankles in the past, it's boots for me.
Fair enough 👍
boots won't save you if your foot is tuck in rock and you fall they do help a bit in general but am surprised that people actually think that small padding will save their ankles if if they fall
yes! im also looking for boots
Not falling but slight irregular movements,boots prevent much better@@fincestoloras
I am with 35 years of intensive mountaineegring, hiking, trekking... always boots. For flat and hills shoes are fine.
If I had to stick with one only, I'd still go with boots. I have Karrimor Mount both shoes and boots and I use shoes a lot since they are a lot lighter, cooler and just more pleasant to wear. Never had a problem with waterproofing with both of them. However, dirt and small rocks are finding their way in the shoes which annoys me. This happens a lot less with boots. Also, I feel safer in boots when climbing rocky terrain and having less movement in the ankle actually forces me to position myself properly for a climb, think about the obstacle I'm about to pass... Kinda making me more focused and in the moment.
Yep, this for me too. I find being really fussy about socks has had a much bigger effect than which boots I've got on tbh.
I switched many many years ago. I much prefer being nimble and light on my feet. My current setup is 0 drop, wide toe box (two things not to overlook) Topo Athletic trail runners for 90% of my hikes in the UK. Then some Salomon hiking shoes with gaitors for the colder months. I do like the Salomon shoes, however my first pair holes developed very quickly on the sides of the toe box and the grips arent great in slick snow (other Salomons, even my trail runners were/are better). I can even see yours Andy are starting to create a tension point on the sides of the start of the toe box (make sure you keep the receipt). My current Salomons are my 6th pair (I replaced my gortex ones for leather shoes under warranty, to try help combat the toe box issue) and I feel the quality is going down/they just arent built to last. So once they're worn out I doubt I'll be getting more from them.
wear trail runners in the summer unless it’s going to be really rocky. got to be boots for winter though
This is now my go to channel for gear love it
I had to stop using either. I'm a big guy, who gets very warm, sweaty and I've had issues with my achilles heel for years. The drop and cushion of hiking shoes/boots made my leg shoot with pain all day on a second day of a long hike. I live and hike around Scotland, wet most of the year so no membrane is going to protect me forever, especially when I don't use trousers most of the year and I'm usually hiking in shorts even in high winds and cool weather. So if it starts raining, doesn't matter if they are boots or shoes, they will wet out through my legs and socks. And then I have to walk in wet boots/shoes the next day cause they won't dry out. I've started using barefoot shoes for hiking, they give me the flexibility and zero-drop I needed for my achilles, they will wet out but also dry out very fast, keeping my feet mostly dry. The comfort is a bit iffy if you don't have experience using those shoes and your foot isn't used to the feedback from the ground. I do admit that my case is unusual though, for most cases I'd probably say hiking shoes are a winner!
I'm a big fan of shoes. We have ankles for a reason and restricted lower limb mobility, which is what wearing any boot adds, is not a good thing.
Not true. Look at ski boots. There's almost no mobility in the ankles and none in the instep. Stiff hiking boots just shift the focus to the thighs which work better for some people (like me) and if you have weak ankles then stiff, high boots with good support can be a better option.
@@robertashker9871 skiing ain't walking.
@robertashker9871 skiing is literally the sport with the highest knee injuries...loose your mobility in your ankles your knees will "make up for it" ie break up for it!
The problem with Salomon is the quality has really gone downhill over the last few years, online reviews of defects & premature wear is rife, so many complaints.
You should try the Salomon Forces Edition, I didn’t even know these existed till a few months ago, developed for Military & special forces. I’ve just received my 4d Quest GTX forces 2 and they are built substantially better than the civilian version. There’s a massive difference, you can really tell, hopefully they last a really long time 😊
Furthermore, any mountain climbing, scrambling I’d always wear boots, unless it’s an easy climb like Skiddaw in the summer, Mountain rescue say ankle injuries caused by improper footwear is their number 1 call-out reason, I don’t think it’s fair on them risking it it trail running shoes etc.
We’ve all got at least 1 pair of Salomon’s and don’t have issues. I have no idea what people are doing to them!
@@BackpackingUK I think about 2 years ago Salomon changed their manufacturing location from Cambodia to Vietnam for some of their footwear, I couldn’t understand either, but a lot of the reviews were from people that had issues within the first 20-30miles of use, that’s what put me off buying the civilian Quest 4d, I noticed they are manufactured in Vietnam, compared to the Forces that are still manufactured in Cambodia.
I definitely think there’s an issue, just depends which boot you have, luckily Salomon do honour their 2 year warranty, a little piece of mind.
Great vid Andy. I. Really like the shoes, I genuinely do see the point and others comments about ankles for a reason,
However, many years ago I had both ankles broken in a road accident. Resulting in long term weak ankles.
therefore I’ve opted for the boots for maximum ankle support. Funnily enough I’ve got Salomon GTX 4. Love them, very lightweight, extremely supportive and comfortable.
Thanks Andy interesting video. Why I found your channel was I went out this morning , its always this time of year when I realise I need to lose weight, wearing my Merrill boots and after walking 5 miles I had " hot foot ".It was all on pavement so given this I also have a pair of Merrill shoes so now after watching this I think I will give them a try & perhaps use my boots for rough terrain walking. You,ve gained another Sub.Thanks.
Welcome aboard!
I use Helly Hansen hiking shoes. Never had an issue with non-ankle support even in the rocky AT of Pennsylvania.
Great video. I changed to barefoot 2 years ago. Would never go back . Haven’t rolled an ankle since.
Its getting tougher finding comfortable footwear with so many brands facing issues. I have Salomon boots like yours but find them heavy and tiring. Looking to do the Great Glen Way which is fairly flat so need decent footwear that is forgiving on hard surfaces and trails, especially since I will be wildcamping and carrying a 58ltr backpack. Meindl and Keen suffer from delamination issues, mesh shoes aren't durable, some soles are better at gripping on wet surfaces than others. Jeezo. Looking at a mid cut boot now, wide toe box, orthopaedic insole, leather or suede type fabric. Great channel Andy. Atb.
I have lone peak6 altra which i wear most of the time.if terrain and weather look demanding i wear vivobarefoot boots.both for me are really comfy plus i like feeling the ground with its lumps and bumps.😅thanks for the review and the pro,s and cons.i,ve found buying outdoor gear a minefield of choice,all honest reviews help.cheers.
Great analysis and comparison, thanks so much for sharing!
Ive the same Salomons and normally i love this brand but these im not to keen on these , i find the fit far smaller and they are soooo not waterproof in any way. Ive just got a pair of Saucony trail runners but id imagine ill rip these to bits in no time. In all honestly i find shoes like i find tents, I aint ever gonna tick all boxes. Grip and comfort seem to be the most important thing for me... Love the idea of boots but they just do not seem to work for me at all
ive just done 2 morning walks about 6m each and my toe is practically ripping its way out the front hahahah but its the colours hahahah i was trying to blend in to my surroundings and then boom these bright yellow things appeared in front of my eyes 😁
Useful video for which thanks. My question: what are the disadvantages of buying cheaper footwear which are augmented with waterproof socks?
Personally, I can’t stand waterproof socks. Feet feel awful and sweaty. That’s my experience of Lizardskins anyway.
I've moved from wayerproof boots and shoes to non waterproof shoes (moab 3 vented) my feet stayed a lot cooler so i think its worth todking getting them wet. I'm sure walking in hot sweaty feet would be worse.
Used to love Salomon Boots but they are just never waterproof, and i find the grip deadly on wet rock.
I have Adidas Terrex R2 Swift shoes and they are much better
Hykes Trailblazers are my favorite barefoot hiking boots. 🤠
I love your videos Andy but wouldn't hike in shoes, I hike in very rough terrain perfect for shredding trail runners and breaking ankles. I've also noticed that every time a UA-camr hiking complains of blisters, they're wearing shoes. Not a problem I've ever had in my big heavy boots ! Still each to their own. Keep those videos coming and ramble on. Cheers
Wrong question, with an old ankle injury its boots. I was also talking to a Mountain Guide and he says he sees more injuries with those wearing shoes. There's a good reason why boots and their origins were the choice.
Although this year, I’m seeing more people wear trail runners than hiking shoes and boots. Rightly or wrongly, footwear is changing fast, and the days where everyone wore boots are long gone.
Sorry have to say "Mildew" is a fungus, dew is what you find on the grass with condensation either in the morning or evening.
do not buy solomon brand shoes, I bought mine and they fell apart within 6 months, I had to buy shoe gooo to keep them going and I literally had to glue the entire sole of the shoe to keep it from ripping off. no arch support uncomfortable. they suck.
No amount of leather is gonna save you from snapping your bones if you're walking on crazy terrain with a false sense of security... rather be able to feel the angles of the rocks I'm climbing on and not fall at all. Shoes for me.
What about trail running boots
I’ve got some La Sportiva’s and Inov-8’s. They are great but the soles aren’t good enough for long distance hikes (pressure points) and they are only waterproof to a point.
Talking about shoes when we want to see the gun madness 😂
😂😂😂 my heart rate still hasn’t dropped 😂😂😂
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