BIG Updates to Diablo IV - But IS IT ENOUGH ?? - Diablo IV Server Slam Feedback / News
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00:00 Introduction
00:49 Character Balancing Updates
02:50 QOL Improvements
04:25 Paragon Board Sneak Peeks
05:34 New Stagger Mechanic ???
06:28 Battle Pass Discussions
07:45 Final Thoughts and Conclusion
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I am hooked since the first open beta
Literally cannot wait for the game to launch.
I am extremely angry at diablo right now. after weeks of anticipation i dedicated the entire weekend to trying to get the Mount Trophy unlocked for beating the world boss only to fight it over and over again and never fucking get the kill because its extremely over tuned and designed to fuck you over if theres 1 or 2 players who give up or lose their armor during the fight. I fought it over and fucking over again and every time it escaped before dying so I spent 20+ hours for fucking NOTHING. my head is literally boiling with how angry I am right now. I dont get it how can Blizzard always be so fucking good at finding the perfect way to absolutely enrage me. this company is run by actual demons
It made me realise that i don`t want to play it xD
@@NegroFogo Same for me! I have more fun with Last Epoch.
It has been confirmed that there will be a gem tab in the future:)
Ouu nice thanks for this!
Hopefully it doesn't cost money to buy that tab. But knowing Blizzard, who knows.
@@dthao227 We should wait and see and not judge.I have no problem paying for extra tabs or cosmetics.These people have been honest and open with the Diablo 4 community and give them the benefit of the doubt. I am willing to pay for this stuff(cosmetics,tabs etc) to support the dev team because THIS team cares about the D4 community and is listening to our feedback.Remember,there are different divisions of Blizzard teams for different games and no 2 teams are alike:)
Its going to used for gems/runes/ and charms…. But shhhhhhhh…. Top secret
My first character (and first to level 20 in this beta) was the Druid. I used Bear (Maul/Pulverize) with poison vine, and I reached level cap without much to hold me back. I only had trouble with the one spider boss (who kept snaring me, kiting me, and hitting me from range), but I eventually killed her by adapting my tactics. I found the dungeons to be OK, albeit less than I had hoped for, the combat to feel balanced, and the game performance to be better than expected. All of the changes I noticed in comparison to the last beta were in a positive direction. All except the Necro, that is. They beat that poor Skellymancer into a coma with the Nerf Stick.
The Ashava stagger mechanic was there in the previous beta. It was just a way more difficult, if not impossible to stagger her.
Ah good to know cuz I never staggered her before
So the biggest one I've heard issues about was the minions for the necromancer. I have played that class in depth and I can easily see that it's not as bad as people say.
If you have ZERO points into improving your minions, health regen, damage and life... yes the minion are not great and die fairly easily.
However if you fully spec onto minions and focus on that they are similar to how they were last beta weekends and do stay alive even in boss fights.
It's almost like... if you're not speced to be a summoner.... your minions suck, shocking I know.
Aside from that I felt that in general, Blizzard has managed to make all classes I general feel relatively balanced and good to play.
I actually am still unsure which class I want to start off with even at this point, which is great. Not knowing which to play means that all classes feel relatively good to play.
I definitely feel the diablo 2 style of progression in this game and I genuinely hope they don't cave to the demands of some online personalities who simply want a D3 style game where they ha e huge numbers of damage and can pummel even through some of the hardest enemies simply for content. I think there are still a few areas of improvement of course but I think it's good and am looking forward to a successful launch
they hot fixed it during the server slam, so you may have played with it after the hotfix went in.. It was pretty terrible at the very beginning of the server slam
I tend to carry a few items with me to switch out and when I'm done with a run I've always got to be careful not to junk or sell them, they need to add a hold/keep flag rather than flagging everything as junk.
you choose what to flag as junk though, so wouldn't not flagging an item as junk effectively be the same as having a flag specific for items you don't want to junk?
@@iamdopeasfcuk yeah but it's more work to flag everything you don't want before selling and you can't really do it til you get back to the shop because on console it doesn't allow you to sell just a few items that you have marked before junking the rest, selling 1 sells everything that's marked which also means your dungeon's going to reset by the time you're done if you need to offload miid way through.
i had a lot more fun with the server slam than the open beta! the feeling of progression and actually having to think of your build using just rares felt a lot better than when we were swimming in legendaries. the qol changes were nice too, especially move and interact on one keybind. that one change just made the game feel so much better.
Liked and subscribed! I like your balance of information and opinion 😀 Now for the feedback on the weekend!
1. I did actually play all the classes to level 20 and did dungeons with all of them. Here is my opinion:
Barbarian - I played a haste barbarian that I TRIED to play in the first beta. It was magnificent. I felt effective and progression felt smooth. The dungeons are still definitely harder for melee than they are for casters, but it is no longer anywhere near as painful. Shouts, while nerfed drastically are still super effective in the early game, so still very playable at least at the start.
Necro - Minion necro has been destroyed and will be utterly unplayable until at least level 50 when the paragon board unlocks. Necros can still be VERY effective, just not minion Necros. I tried putting every point possible into making the warriors and mages tougher and higher damage. Despite this, they still dropped like flies. Corpse explosion was nerfed heavily, but its irrelevant for a minion necro because you will rarely cast it as all of your corpses will be chewed up casting and healing your minions who die regardless of the little heal and damage buff they get from overcasteing. If they don't fix this, the most iconic thing that makes a necro a necro will be meaningless. You will just be a blood mage as that is the only real option at the moment.
Sorcerer - Yes chain lightning and hydra were nerfed. However, just to see how bad it was, I crated a build that still used both of those skills as the cornerstone of my build. It was just fine. Yes things took a little longer to drop, but the build had the same general effectiveness when it came to how they were being used in the past. So, I saw not remarkable forced build changes.
Rogue - I did not find the gameplay immensely changed from the first beta weekend. Terrific class for high damage high speed play
Druid - I built a rend/poison Druid with a poison creeper. It was SUPER effective. There are still the basic frustrations of a melee class, but it felt great to play and progression and power felt really terrific. Creeper/Bear slam was also really fun as you can make crit 20% more likely when using creeper strangle. So, you strangle then slam and everything in a very wide range that is not a tanky elite dies.
2. Difficulty - I NEVER got a legendary drop off of a mob on any character on any level except when I beat Ashava; I loved it. With the overall nerfs to the classes and the overall reduction in loot "quality" the game felt WAY more balanced and challenging on world tier 2 where I always played (except for Ashava because I am not insane).
3. Monetization (SUPER just my opinion) - Battle passes = money for continued content. Number of people who want pay to win = EXTREMELY LOW. So therefor Battle pass = cosmetics. I think it is completely unfair to ask Blizzard to support a game like this with regular infusions of more gear, more skills, more side stories and more bosses without allowing them to make more money. If all of this cash grab was just to support the base game and one or two expansions that we would have to pay 30 or 40 dollars for, I would tell them to go scratch. But since they have made a clear road map to quarterly free additional content (that's right free), I say more power to them to try to compel people to donate more money to them. That is what a paid battle pass is: a voluntary donation that gets you ZERO game changing content. Besides, there will be hundreds of cosmetic items to get for free and many of the ones I have seen from the first beta and in their previews have been fantastic. Few players will even get all of those. So, begrudging the developers putting some of their art behind a paywall seems unfair (again from my perspective).
4. Stagger - are you sure that is new for Ashava? I thought it was there before but the stagger mechanic was generating too little stagger in general to every achieve the threshold. I ended up staggering several bosses in the Slam and I had never staggered one in the first beta when I know they at least had the mechanic. I am not saying you are wrong. It just seemed like the whole stagger mechanic seems to work more effectively.
Thanks for reading this (anyone who did) 😀
Nice run down, you thought it out and articulated effectively. I may disagree on melee being harder, but I'm also an OG Barb player and quietly confirmed that the build I've been waiting to be viable... is. Oh boy is it. That's my bias, but I also tested my barb against all the other classes in the SS and the previous betas and the only class faster at dealing death (for me at least) was the pre-nerfed necro. Even without a trove of legendary gear on him, the skill combo for that barb was incredibly effective.
P.S.- Regarding legendary items, you have a better chance at getting them (at first) from the Obols farmed from the small world events (yellow circles). I managed to get about 75-80% of my gear to legendary by doing that. Nothing I wanted, but still...
@@kydelastra Thanks Kydel. I do agree that the Barb felt very fun to play this time around. I was throwing myself into groups of mobs, popped my 3 shouts and then hasted them all to death. I only got myself into trouble a few times but I only died to Ashava.
Thanks for the tip about Obols. I got that sense after spending some and getting a fantastic neck piece for my rend Druid.
good ol' Dbrunski diablo video! thanks
My freshly leveled Pulverize druid almost got me an Ashava kill, but i just wish we had more sorcs and rogues to help with the damage which we were lacking with that random group.
Regardless i did kill Ashava a few times on my rogue before leveling a druid, just to be sure about it lol.
I loved Druid on the Open Beta, and I loved it even more now. Pretty smooth now.
What I'm kinda stumped about is why they nerfed some of the Key Passives, given that we were unable to play with them on the Open Beta...
For Druid it was only Perfect Storm, but maybe there was some for other classes too
Druid resource was better as a Bear/Melee, but when I did Tornados, I didn't get any spirit when running around and then did sorc and my mana bubble filled up in the blink of an eye by regen. I think for range Druid they need something to help with that.
The stagger was available last time as well. The yellow bar fills up albeit slower last time, to the point where I have not seen the stagger last beta.
Same for me with the legendaries - in fact nearly half my kit was still blue by level 20 with a solitary socket in a ring. I don’t mind this as it make legendaries truly valuable.
Summon necro, which is my favourite in D2 is a delicate little flower now in D4, with skellies that seem to faint at the first opportunity, so spamming skellies faster than my rogue fires arrows, which is not a great twist on the builds gameplay.
I hated what they did to skeletons in D4. They died faster than red shirts. After i unlocked mages, i just sacrificed them all. Rather use corpses for explosions than rezzing useless minions.
I didn't play the previous betas, but went in with a sorc. Leveled using lightning on WT2, and it felt perfectly fine. I swapped a lot at 20 to try some things, and ended on firewall which was definitely doing some work. Wish I had more time to try Rogue as well, as they are the two classes I'm between for my first. Pretty sure the beta sold me on day one as well.
I didn't play it earlier but I had a blast playing thunder druid. It is amazing and I'm going to play it from launch even though I was going to start with sorc. He has cool mechanics, deals a lot of aoe damage and is very tanky thanks to damage reduction from primary attack (25%), wind shield (10%) and werebear shout (70%).
"for the 1000th time there is no pay to win."
I can hear your frustration when saying this but Blizzard brought it upon themselves for shady handling of Diablo Immortal so i have no sympathy for them when people hassle them about this issue. Maybe after a few years and their word stayed true to their word with D4 their reputation may improve and people will stop asking about it.
This beta was a lot harder than the last ones I played necro again and my minions actually died a ton lol while last time they could solo butcher and it took ashava like 1 min to kill a single skele on WT2.
I honestly don't mind the nerfs since I'm still able to clear everything even if it's harder the difficulty aspect is fun and hopefully late game fully geared my summons will be more durable.
100% agree on gems. i was surprised to see them there after the hints they were giving that they will have their own tab.
I would like to play but only managed 20m at a time, can't stand the close in zoom, for whatever reason it doesnt work for me. Give me something close to D2 zoom and maybe.
they nerfed damage around the board and I like it. This gives me confidence that they are remaining true to not wanting this to turn into diablo 3 damage.
Same, I liked that they nerfed the overtuned classes instead of buffing the weaker ones too much, because I think diablo is best when you have a challange and not just faceroll your keyboard and destroy everything. I had a lot more fun with druid than sorc in the first beta, the difficulty felt better.
@@AndreyGP Agreed!
I want D4 damage numbers to be the same as D2. It is crazy how inflated numbers are in D3 reaching trillions. It is refreshing to see double digit damage numbers and occational 3 digit when getting crits in D4
People were lolling at how easy the game was last weekend. Now they put the drops where they would be for launch and toned some things down and people are complaining it's too hard. Can't please... anyone, lol.
It'll still turn into that, people were doing hundreds of thousands of damage in an endgame beta we never got to see.
What they did here really just limits our options.
Played the sorcerer quite a bit. Super fun still. Nice and mobile with teleport and hydra is still amazing especially with the fireball augmentation that causes kill to be mini carpet explosions.
I was trying Barb and Druod again and that immprovememts which they made are so good,i am just waiting to realese date but for me its ok the good content will come withe the seassons later,i hope so 😎👌
i would love to see an option to change the color of the cursor. Im losing track of it during fights with a lot going on
Did you try the Cursor Size option? You can make it much bigger.
@@literallyjeff yes i did. it helps some but id rather have a smaller cursor in red or something that doesn't blend into the background. doesn't seem like that would be a hard quality of life fix.....
@@wensonchang6077 I agree, especially considering all the other accessibility options they have added.
All the nerfs made game feel better imo, necro to after they buffed the health of skellies...the boss fights felt awesome.
Will be there a next beta test?
No, the game launches in like 3 weeks.
With me I played Rouge during Server Slam and I can say this that during the early lvling up to 20 using bows were better than using her melee attacks with swords/daggers however I am expecting late game with her that she will improve tenfold. From your gameplay the Druid looks massively improved they are actually killing stuff. I am going Sorc with the retail release of the game because The nerfs to the Sorc are not that bad and it was expected due to the same reason as the Necro. However with the Necro I kind of changed my stance from they nerfed him too much to that this is early game he shouldn't be this OP at this stage of the game. Also there might be aspects to beef up your skeletons from gear or the paragon board.
I only played the mage(20) during the previous beta open. This time, I leveled up a rogue(20), barbarian(20), necromancer (20), and another mage (10) before it closed today. Took on one boss, cleared a lot of the available map. Even saw the butcher pop up at random places. Can’t wait to take it down.
I've been torn about sharing my barb build with people. Not because I think it's game breaking or 'never been tried before', but because I don't generally like playing builds that everyone else is using. However, I greatly enjoy this channel and I know melee isn't your favorite but try this build on a barb when you make them- you may enjoy it as much as I do:
1. Frenzy for main and building attack speed.
2. Furious Whirlwind- bleeding WW is like shooting holes in a full water bucket.
3. Mighty Leap- helps with mobility a lot, slows enemies for that WW.
4. Hamstring- better bleeding.
5. Ultimate: Iron Maelstrom- maybe, maybe not. I doubt it was touched after early beta but we didn't get to find out. Either way, it was the best room sweeper after chaining the other skills for a bit.
6. Speculation, but I'll try Gushing Wounds for the passive.
The legendary set up is fairly obvious, but the aspect to keep any eye out for THIS build is Bul Kathos as it creates that earthquake when your leap lands. Personally I'll focus on WW and bleed/slow enhancers, skulls in the weapons and thorns in the armor.
If anybody wonders why I like this build, even in the server slam without great equipment I had no issues and managed to take out the butcher solo on tier 1.
THANK U DBRUNKSKI POSITIVE SO MANY PEOPLE BASHING THIS GAME COZ THE PASS BUT SERIOUSLY WAS GOOD FRESH OF BREATH AIR HEARING THIS AND YOUR THOUGHTS
I’ve played druid open beta & server slam weekends. The resource generation still feels absolutely terrible to me & I was taking nodes where I could to help, kinda sucks.
However I do appreciate we do not have the class mechanic, I get we didn’t have that part of the map to obtain it but it would’ve been nice if they’d just turned it on or something so we could’ve had a better (hopefully) experience with Druid. Still plan on going Druid but I’m hoping resource generation isn’t always going to be an issue
You have to understand that Actiblizz has pulled bait and switch shenanigans with not just Diablo Immortal, but with the CoD games and other IPs as well.
People are fully justified in not trusting Blizzard's word on the P2W issue. If you look into it, it's pretty disgusting.
i can see some immune builds going to be a problem at end game still. you can almost get no cd on blood mist if i take into account the fact your in the form for a period of time. you can get cd to around 10 seconds. that is with out consuming corpses to reduce it but how this works now doesn't reduce cd allot, the explosion operates differently now its very meh but you can still maintain and very very high uptime on immune.....
blood surge overpower 2 second reduction, legendary power reduction, cool down reduction.
i try sorcerer this time. chainlighting still good even nerf, ice blade is too op for cd reduce, hydra kinda weak now
but this test it have new legendery too. i think even some skill get nerf it too fast to say what build is op / too weak.
You don't need chain lightning when there chain ice bolt :). That's what I'm started as. It was way stronger, consistent in damage and safer.
They Killed Summon Necro. The Skeletons don't grab agro, they die constantly, and you have to run defenders if you want to even try to play Necro. What is the point of having a Necromancer class if you can't summon the dead? The game went from some challenge to way to hard on all classes. I spent the last 45 mins trying to beat a dungeon boss on my 20 Rouge with a "Streamer" good build and gave up because of the constant stun locks and not being able to heal through one shots.
Sayyyyy what?? Lol. You are doing something very wrong then.
For me earlier necro before nerf was no brainer, just facerolling content. I personally felt defenders didnt work. Reapers with 15% chance to generate corpses was still best choice for me. Yes, minions dont keep aggro that well anymore. But they still block enemies path and act as meat shield. Some bosses can now one shot minions and it makes player think some other skills and ways to defeat those bosses. Cant rlly trust minions 24/7 anymore. For me this nerf feels better than what it was before. But other hand i do miss relaxed gameplay of old necro.
@@LeoFINuTube Having minions that die very quickly to normal mobs even at World Tier 1 is very concerning of their potential in higher World Tiers and end game. The idea of using minions for the sole purpose of a shield defeats the purpose of them. The purpose of playing minions is for them to be your main source of damage, while being a shield is a side benefit. Prior to the Server Slam they were extremely durable and now they are extremely fragile. Now that they have extremes of both they can simply adjust them to to the middle and minions will be viable again.
@@stever24 i see it now. For pure minion necro this nerf was death blow. And players like me who does all the killing and having minions mainly as meat shield this nerf wasnt that bad. I understand it now. No idea how blizzard is gona balance it out. Or if they ever will.
@@LeoFINuTube I don't want them to be unkillable but we have to find a happy medium. They are way too easy to kill now. The mages don't even get 2 seconds of up time before they are dead, Normal warriors can't even fight a fiend, Hemorrhage doesn't heal them anymore, The mobs don't target them 1st. Those are all kinds of issues that need to be addressed. Not everyone is or can play a hardcore mash buttons build. As i get older my reflexes are not up to par with the fast paced cooldown spam builds.
This is also the reason I left D2R. Having to have uber micro-management of skills kills a game for me. I want the slower paced gameplay so I can think and react (exactly what they said they wanted) play style.
I played the other beta as druid (the not buffed version) then this server slam as necro (the nerfed version), so i had the worse case scenario for both! Damn, the game is super fun regardless. I'm really obsessed with the thematic and atmosphere of this game though.
I hate that i care so much about cosmetics that it sours the game for me when there are cool purchasable cosmetics. I always want the game to bring in a system of unlocking/collecting cosmetics within the game. However for some reason with indie games on steam, take astroneer or space engineers. Im down to buy those cosmetics. I think with space engi its because theyre tradeable and very very cheap. Astroneer they look very cool. I still get frustrated having spent what i spent on that tho.
Yo I hear you bro....I wish they just put things into the game
I find it easier to buy cosmetics when the game is 20$ and from a developer that will use my money to develop something from the heart. ACTIVISION is a AAA dev that can't even rip off smaller developers well so the idea of buying cosmetics is sickening.
I just mained druid and loved it
Only found 2 legendarys all weekend tho
I thought the balance changes were spot on. I was a bit disappointed with the "no back tracking" changes, I didn't really notice much of a difference in most dungeons. As for PTW, sure there will be no PTW at the beginning. But down the road, when the head office says "More dollar$$$!!1! Add some PTW!! (or your fired)", they will add PTW. It's coming. Hopefully not soon.
Edit: did you get a new camera? Your video quality and lighting is awesome.
It's good to have a D2 named streamer come out a say good things about D4, I will play Sorcerer Frost Explosions on release. and as stated below if you put points it to Necro minions they are fine as are the drop rates, now you look at rare items for what they should be build - building blocks in the early to mid game then as you get legendary drops you either change up to that style or farm till you get what you need.
If you don't like links on your page I'm ok with that if you could just kill it as it's just the build.
Only bad thing for me is ti sucks that there is no Steel Box version for PC, I would have refunded and got it local if there was, console only from what I can tell.
Not sure why a beta weekend to stress test the game would change my mind. People coming to final conclusions on how the game will play out is insane to me!
because the game is in its final form and the experience on launch until lvl 20 will be 1:1
Yeah, it's Blizzard, no need for a beta stress test to know it's going to suck. You people are holding onto a legacy of a gaming company that hasn't existed for 25 years!
If you see the words paragon, battle pass, or anything like that, run. Run very far away and take a stamina potion
@Konarcoffee It must be hard for you to watch others enjoy a game while you're miserable and depressed in your little corner, lol.
Also, please explain to me why you're watching a video about blizzard games ? Seems pretty sad to me!
@Vasil Vasilev FINAL CONCLUSION, meaning you've experienced the game as a whole. Also, I can see you complaining about drop rates.. they are perfect as is! If I can get full legendaries within a weekend by level 20, it is good enough.
what about how the necro minnions hit hard asf but insta die in boss fights and are useless
In the closed beta, Skelly Necro was my favorite build. That has been gutted for the Server Slam. I only made it to level 10 before abandoning it. Skeletons die in a couple of hits, so they are almost useless as meat shields. Also, the mobs ignore them and go straight for your necro, so skellies are useless as a distraction. Finally, the damage your bone warriors put out seems barely sufficient in comparison to your Necro, so you can't rely on them to kill your enemies for you. With all that said, what reason do we have to summon skeletons? It is not hard to see why people are complaining about the nerfs.
I played the necro. CE, not like it used to be. Skellys kept dying, ok. Sever(5/5) hits everything. Blood lance (1/5) one shots enemies. Decompose (4/5)is slow but effective. Cant speak to the curses, they didnt seem to do much. theres something cool about the mages, floating in the back throwing cold. Got 4 legendaries after playing all day.
i tryed sorc and most of the attack were better in the first patch
I don’t think I can play if the camera doesn’t get zoomed out a bit. Just a tiny bit…. Too close for me unfortunately 😢
100% agree with you
Whats the deal with force move? Isnt moving normal enough?
Consider when you're fighting a large enemy and want to move to the space behind it. You can't because you will target the enemy and attack. Force move allows you to move to wherever your mouse is, even if there's something in the way of the mouse.
@@literallyjeff and how does it decide whether i want to attack or move? Or move first and then attack from behind instead of just moving to the front again?
@@Krizzah47 It is a separate action that you can bind to a different key. So you could have left click which acts normally, and then bind another mouse button or key to force move.
@@literallyjeff yeah but they talk about force move and attack on same key
@@Krizzah47 Do you mean "they" as in this video? He mentions that blizzard added the ability to interact with objects in the environment using force move, but not attacking enemies. He says he has attack on left click and force move on mouse wheel button. If you put attack on the same button I think it would defeat the purpose as normal move does that already?
Necro is a lot weaker than it used to be overall. Still a fun character to use though. I didn’t get a single legendary leveling 1-20 on it. The blood spell for attacking can’t target anything but monsters which kinda sucks you can’t break random things for potions. I tried the barbarian and I’m gonna be honest it was terrible. I needed more time to mess with the skill tree but the cool downs are pretty long and ww still uses too much fury. Over all really fun game especially with friends.
The problem with balance is if your character is weak intill endgame you won’t keep playing that character. Easier to level faceroll class then twink weak character. Or just ply the meta.
That's kinda true. They did say they focused a lotmore on endgame balance, but there is something imporant to be said about the playthrough/levelup experience. Adventurer mode should pretty much be guarenteed to be easy regardless of class/build/gear/suboptimal choices., just for the purpose of getting people though it enjoyably.
i regret starting out with Necro. Felt so weak compared to the prev beta weekends. Just a HUGE nerf to them. Felt it was worse than the Druid from prev beta. I did enjoy Sorc. I stayed away from Rogue because it wasn't my play style. Barb was pretty fun though.
Who is that guy ServerSlamr? His character seems strong.
I gotta say, i really dislike that EVERY dungeon gets stronger as you level-up. That's not how Diablo 2 is. Early dungeons stay low level, no matter your level. Especially for hardcore, makes it kinda lame. Would much rather have consistent dungeon levels. They could always make it an option to have the original level of the dungeon OR level the dungeon up to your current level. That's what they should do. Very excited for the game and will play a lot, but I do feel that every dungeon always being equal difficulty (effectively), it makes progress feel "cheaper". I like seeing older dungeons get easier and getting strong enough for future dungeons. It's a major part of character building in an RPG and feeling your character's strength growing. I really dislike when (A)RPGs remove that whole concept.
They have other options in place for this issue..
@@Touchin-Grass what do you mean? pretty sure all the enemies in the game level up with your character, don't they?
@Shooperman As far as I know, yes.( there may be some exceptions there ) But the power creep for your class comes from gear drops. Also, for example , you can have a level 50 legendary drop, but it's ancestral, which tunes it up extremely high, making you feel powerful. Altars of Lilith and also the renown system boost your character substantially. If ever you're feeling weak, you can also drop down difficulties to wipe things out quicker.
Level scaling solves a bigger problem than it creates by keeping all content and zones relevant. Killing Andariel in Hell act1 is not rewarding because I'm much stronger and scale past her, I'm sorry. Challenging content is fun, D4 seems to have a balance of both.
Everyone is playing Druid and I neither played Druid or Assassin in D2 - until the last couple of years ... Just stubborn I guess - as I didn't originally buy the expansion until years later - because I didn't think it was worth 19.99 ... holy moses was I wrong ... LoL !!
The font change might have seemed stupid for you Dbunski, but it doesn't mean it wasn't a legitimate concern for others.
i played 20 mins this time and i got bored, i went back to d2r
DBrunski are you a wrestler or BJJ practioner? First time noticing your ears👍
I personally did not really enjoy playing it, but I played it on last gen console.
Yet there is a P2W mechanic.....character leveling > battlepass leveling so buying the accelerated battlepass makes you able to spend "ashes" sooner/faster....thus letting you level up faster (or the other 2 ash mechanics they introduce/change each season)
As long as you do all the alters of lilith Ashava was pretty easy
I felt the fire sorc is a little bit weaker than the before, speccialy Hydra
It was nerfed before this beta started
I feel like all the comment come from either ppl saying they played it or inventing a story.
My only issue I had this weekend was a staggered lag that teleported me back to where I was... shit like this happen in so many online so Im over it.
Only 1 build to play.... wtf play what you want and stop coying every build you see ... every class has many spell yes some underperform but your level 20 only ...
In the end I feel ppl are just trying to hate just to hate. The game has flaws but no game is perfect in the world we live in ...
17 more days!
Since it's a live-service game and they will be adding stuff, I really hope that every class will get more core skills in the future.
Even with paragon-board combinations, I feel like 4 core skills per class are just not gonna be enough long-term.
in the stream that rhykker hosted they told, that they plan to expand the skill trees in the future !
Necro still feels good, so idk what people are upset about. Necro needed some toning down.
I have to say the duengons with ''SLAY all enemies''
Was super horrible... they said the monsters would pursue you more aggresively, but i FELT nothing of that sort. it was more me aggresively hunting htem down.
The light sorc even with the nerfs are still stronger then a druid . Both with no legs. Im not going to bank on druid getting stronger end game.
The problem I see with cosmetics for sale is that it lends to the idea of making gear you find not look good.
ive had a blast with the free early game cosmetic gear and customizing the looks and colors. when you turn the gear in to the blacksmith you get to acquire new looks for free that you didnt have before. i find it to be one of the best parts about the whole game experience this time around. theres a lot of cool ways to customize with whats available for free.
Does anyone else remember that there wasn't supposed to be any paid to win in world of warcraft classic too? But remember they said it 1000 times that they weren't going to do paid to win :-). I have only one word gullible. Good luck guys.
Wow no wonder ashava took so long to kill.
. That clip showed like 100dps lol.. I was spamming 2-3k crits with my rogue... basically had to carry every single time
I'm too busy IRL to sink immense amount of hours into a d4 beta. I basically hit lv 20. killed ashava once for the horn and moved on :)
Server slam pretty much made me go from maining necro to maining rogue. They overnerfed necro, it's ridiculous. The legendary was the problem.
They will course correct, I am sure. They said it's an easy to adjust thing on their end.
@@kolai1987 I'm probably still going to end up playing rogue though, they have a lot of variety going for them, and some pretty ridiculous damage scaling.
Like, even if melee necromancer was good, I don't want to play that, lol. It's corpse explosion+summons or bust.
Im not going to pre-order, too many games have been released in beta states over the years, not to mention being BORING, so i'll see how the game actually plays for the first week before i make up my mind if i want to purchase it or not.
I'm going to disagree with you on the Druid, dbrunski. The Druid is still really bad. Until you get legendaries, the Druid is still exceptionally poor in the early game. I just wish they would move some of the legendary powers of the Druid out of legendaries to tweaking the baseline power up of the Druid.
I wanted to start at launch with a Druid, but these two betas have just confirmed for me that a Druid only makes sense to use as a second char when you've accumulated a bunch of gear you can give to it to twink it up first. Playing it without legendaries even for the first levels, leaves a very bad impression of the character's power and I'm afraid not many people (myself included) will slog through the early levels to make it to end game when it does have legendaries.
But I just got my first enigma…. Kinda hard to play d4 now
Where do you go from there? Just keep mindless farming the same content?
As much as I love D2, it's incredibly shallow from a gameplay perspective.
Druid still feels off he still not hitting hard at all same with the pets I’m probly gonna stick to either barb or rogue
I went Bear (Maul/Pulverize) with poison vine, and I just powered through the current content. Aside from the one spider boss (who killed me about twenty times before I learned how to fight her), I didn't really have too much trouble. The only time I felt "weak" was at a point where the mobs were getting tougher and I was still using a weapon from ten levels earlier. Once I upgraded my weapon, I began hitting hard, again.
They basically took Necro and Sorcerer and took a huge dump on top of them.
Ashava was pretty easy, just gotta learn her moves.
They already promised that the skill tree will be expanded
yea future game expansions not seasons. you are correct tho
@@Dbrunski125 I expected it meant there will be already larger skill tree on full launch(6.6.) than it was in beta. Is that not right?
No he said future payed expansions not on launch
There is a lot of negativity surrounding this game and we have only seen about 1% of the game so far.I think the game is going in the right direction and don't mind giving Blizzard the extra money for the cosmetics and I paid for the deluxe version of the game,4 days early access. When answering questions and responding to feedback,the devs have been quick to respond and have made changes that were appropriate when a large part of the community asked for them. This is not the same Diablo team like D3.I am not dissing D3 but it's my LEAST favorite game of the series. I think that D4 could be my potentially favorite game in the series,I am very excited for it and probably won't sleep that much for the next 2 weeks or so LOL.
I have mixed feelings on D4. I was bored and played server slam for 5 minutes then uninstalled the game lol. I played previous betas and was moderately entertained. I won't pre-order it but maybe pick it up on release day / week. Early game is a bit boring and abilities don't have much punch.
Abilities don't have punch? Are we playing the same game?
@@jtgreis2796 Its a combination of visuals + sounds + combat = gives something punch (for me). I tend to play Barb maybe you played a class that melted sh*t as a low level character
@Gurubu I've played all classes this games combat is the best in the series I don't know what you're talking about
@@jtgreis2796 Different strokes for different folks. The design choices they made won't appeal to everyone and post launch there will still be people playing D3, and D2R or other ARPGs. Hell even Dbrunski made a video of Last Epoch possibly being a D4 killer - welcome to a world where people have different opinions (SHOCKER) lol
@@Gurubu Sorry you didnt like it. Its easily the most entertaining arpg I have ever played and its only act 1.
I also find it insane immersive. Finally being able to explore sanctuary is amazing as a Diablo fan.
I love that the game is no longer casual , great job , if casual players don't like they should not play veteran , or expect to get legendaries , sorry but a good game makes you work for power !
playing d4 this weekend actually made me depressed
Why?
it feels like a cheap f2p game, but the price tag for everything is 90 dollars.
also, i was fighting a challenging boss & was beginning to enjoy the combat at level 20. i wanted to go check the vendors to see if they had any good gear. i teleported from in front of the boss arena back to town. in town i saw a sidequest and decided to partake; i could use the extra xp. the sidequest instructed me to enter a cellar IN THE TOWN & assist with an exorcism. upon leaving, i noticed that my portal was gone. i was blown away at how little resemblance this game has to the diablo i know and love. maybe i'm just getting old. i hope people have fun with the game but it simply wasn't made for me.
also on top of everything, there will be battle passes and a cash shop...in a diablo game. i can't stomach it, despite it being the norm nowadays. something about it to me is soul crushing. hyperbole? maybe. idk, i'm a grown man so i'll get over it. seeing the world change can be depressing. some embrace it well, but i tend to get caught up in trivial anguish over small quirks. a negative character trait. i'm sure the game is good. maybe it will get better in time. have fun.
@@tippidink You said it better than I could.
This game feels like a chore.
U rlly need to come spent some time on my dedicated conan exiles servers. When u feel the lag and constant 5sec delay on everything u do, diablo 4 will feel like nice vacation :-D
druid went from 17dmg to 22 dmg felt slightly better but still really bad tbh
Paying for cosmetics is perfectly fine for me. Honestly they are a company that needs to make a profit, no profit means no more games. And the box price is not enough to sustain big companies anymore, so pay for cosmetics is perfectly fine. If you want to look cool, buy it. If you dont care for it, dont buy it. Doesn't change your actual gameplay.
Not happy about the Necro corpse explosion nerf. Tis was such a fun build to play :(. Blizzard has done this continuously, where they develop a fun build and then nerf it. Not sure if I am looking as forward to the game now as I was.
You are trying to assess a game with ONLY level 20, no crazy legendary items, and limited access. Please stop thinking that this weekend is what the game is going to be like on launch. Blizzard is clearly listening to feedback and have already addressed people's concerns. The game is not strictly balanced around your 1-20 experience while being able to farm over and over at level 20 or 25. The game is going to feel way different on launch and the builds are going to be just fine once you get the proper gear and levels for them. You are over reacting and there is no reason for it.
It was extremely overpowered... cry me a river lol good riddance.
@@Touchin-Grass This, you can still play the class/build and have fun with it. You are doing a little less dmg, it's fine.
Sorc ice blade build was nerfed just as hard. They doubled the amount of mana to spend to summon a blade from enchantment and reduced the cd proc down to 20%. They have no idea what they are doing...
BIG Updates?
Shop items are going to end up like shop mounts in wow. Don't forget they legit had to remove the spit emote because people were spitting on players with shop mounts. D4 you can look cool, but we will all hate on you lol.
Who the fuck puts their empty pc parts boxes on a display shelf? Super weird.
Those who have a big enough following to get that kind of stuff from sponsors
Why does blizzard always release games at the start of summer.
I heard you can skip levels if you pay ???
For me this server slam was bad for the game, as I had more restrictions in terms of skill points, while repeating the same missions over and over. I'm already at a point that I want to see something new in this game. That just left a bad taste, as it seems the game "aged" badly in terms of repetition. Obviously this is not a definitive thing, as we barely scratched the legendaries and paragon boards to tune builds, but if those don't give a different feeling for the lvl 20-25 builds we already played, then this game will be a do once in a while campaing just like D3. That being said, looking at the legendary affixes, I think there will be cool, creative builds.
It's pretty lame that you can only put 5 skill points into a skill. It's going to make characters feel very flat and it'll make the game feel unrepeatable. In D2, you had to commit 80+ levels to the skill you want to focus on. In this game, it's what---7? maybe there's some synergies with the skill, so...13 or 19 skill points to focus on one skill, max? It's going to feel like once you play through a fire sorc one time, there's no reason to play another... Whereas D2, you might want to make a character for each skill of the fire sorc. If I am level 15 in D2, I can have 15 pts in teeth. Why would they greatly reduce our choice and freedom to develop our skills like that? Am i reading this correct? Or when they open the level cap, will that also open a skill cap from 5 to 20???
I def see your point. But remember that the paragon board is a second skill tree with hundreds of choices. I agree I would be okay with more skills and skill point for that standard skill tree though.
That would be true, if there weren't the Paragon boards at max level. They are the actual endgame mechanic to finetune your character's skills and gameplay together with the legendary aspects on your gear.
They want to keep the early level progression simple and increase the complexity later on so that the casual players are not immediately turned away.
@@presentprogressive8780 yeah, but the early game stuff has to be fun for repeating and honestly, i feel like I'm already getting bored of the early game... (I only play hardcore and i've died many times so far on dungeons getting unpredictably hard, and I've played the beginning a bunch already.) To me, what makes Diablo 2 so special is the replayability. There's a dime-a-dozen games where you play through and you're done, but Diablo 2 gave you the deep customization and commitment into the skill choices that makes you want/need to build a new character if you want to try something even slightly different. That is what made D2 replayable for 20 years. Limiting at 5 pts for fireball (7 if you include the upgrades) out of your 100 skill points, I have a lot of doubt the random skills on the paragon (many being as lame as like...+5% damage) will make up for that huge loss in depth into the one or two skills you want to focus on. If you can focus on 5 skills, every fire sorc will feel like every other fire sorc... the little tweaks on the paragon board aren't going to change that enough. That's my fear. Diablo 2 had the perfect formula for replayability. More than any game that has ever been created, maybe. And they can only make it less replayable by changing that formula.
@@Dbrunski125 To me, what makes Diablo 2 so special is the replayability. Forced replayability, even. There's a dime-a-dozen games where you play through and you're done, but Diablo 2 gave you the deep customization and commitment into the one or two skills that makes you want to build a new character and play through the game again if you want to try something even slightly different. That is what made D2 replayable for 20 years. Limiting at 5 pts for fireball (7 if you include the upgrades) out of your 100 skill points, I have a lot of doubt the random upgrades on the paragon board (many being just stat boosts) will make up for that huge loss in depth into the one or two skills you want to focus on. If you can focus on 5 skills, every fire sorc will feel like every other fire sorc... the little tweaks on the paragon board aren't going to change that enough. That's my fear. Diablo 2 had the perfect formula for replayability. More than any game that has ever been created, maybe. And they can only make it less replayable by changing that formula. The difference between D2 and a game that's SLIGHTLY less replayable is probably a magnitude of 50 times more hours committed to the game.
@Shooperman Diablo 2 having deep customization???? Also, the replayability and amount of things you can do in D4 dwarfs D2. I've played thousands of hours of D2 as well.. very odd take!
Know what's great about D2R? There's not 4 MILLION on screen text displays. I don't need to be reminded how much gold I just picked up. I don't need to see damage numbers every time I hit something. I don't need to see evade or dodge text. I don't need to see the spot on the ground I just clicked. It feels like baby's first Diablo. Let us turn all that crap off or I'll pass
Fact!
You can turn off damage numbers in the settings, and possibly more I didn't really look too deep.
@@literallyjeff That would be implying that this dude will even try to like the game. Hes a D2 fanboy with a pre conceived notion that its trash, just like half of these idiots here.
Thats how they treated Diablo 3 too. 😅
Yeah they fixed it all right the monetization is the gate one sure no pay to win and im a unicorn. Ill just pay it for what it is. To me i think it ain't no diablo. That's dead at least to me the devil's we no sadly am i right.
Font for items - old better
I miss dungeon level 1-2-3-4 and so on, this will be cool if they add in game. All items in inventory should NOT be all the same size! The good thing about game is legendary/unique drop rate! Should stay as low as possible
i hope dungeon complexity increases through the game. Durance of Hate in d2 is a giant confusing labyrinth full of monsters and I hope there are at least a few dungeons like that in D4. Most so far just seem very linear, follow this path to the boss kind of thing. Agree with the legendary drop rate too. last beta i was full legendary gear by the end. This time (although i played quite a bit less) it seems to be better. its supposed to be very rare and powerful. i want to be excited when i get one, not just "oh cool another orange item"
I just wanna play as a werewolf but it’s not fun when the other skills are much better😓 shapeshifting is my whole reason to play the Druid
no it´s not enough... i refunded pre order today
N1 mate 👌
The Druid went from a 3/10 to a 4/10. Big improvement.
I was clearing just as well as a twisted blades rouge with druid... I just think most of you don't know how to build properly lol...
The druid is fine maybe just use your head for once and learn how to play scrub
Imo, the game is not finished, there are very few abilities per character, and a paragon poor in diversity, it has a very limited pvp instead of having released it with a lot of pvp content(like wow), it will come out with only 3 world bosses, why not 7? that it has potential, it does, but I think the game still lacks 1 or 2 years
Its a live service.. If you think it needs more content then yeah, youll get more a month later at the first season. There is alot here already...
I'm not sure what to think about this game yet. I love Diablo. Have since the original. I'm not sure I like this new online only model. It needs single player offline features
The game feels like Single player. You barely interact with anyone and because dungeons are instanced (meaning only you and your party are in them), it is basically single player. The "online" model is the standard so that the game can be properly regulated for cheats, hacks, and players with Ill intent. It's naive to think having an offline feature is possible with games today. It's not a tiny file pack that can be manipulated. These games have insanely Huge and complex files that have to be regulated or else the game breaks entirely. Everyone needs to calm down and just play the game. It's going to be tons of fun and everyone is going to love it WAY more than they think. Yall are crazy
@Jjthjetplane Dude like for real! People are trippin for nothing.
@@Touchin-Grasshaving ownership and full access over something you paid for isn’t nothing. Offline play should be a legal requirement for a game with a box price.
@Phantomblade LOL , that is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Companies can do as they wish, and making it a legal requirement would be the most idiotic thing. By the way, you don't own anything. If Blizzard chose to shut down servers eventually, they can..
I can literally play through D4 as a single player with no interaction with anyone whatsoever. Your argument is flawed. You seem like one of those people who complain just to complain.. get over it, Karen.
@Phantomblade Thank You! They just need it as an "OPTION" I shouldn't need internet to play this game alone or with my son. Every other Diablo game has had single player. At least on consoles. I can play D1, D2R and D3 without internet on Playstation. DIV killed that.
The lack of P2W elements in D4 is not just a "good thing", there should never, ever, ever, ever be P2W crap in the game.