This doesn’t surprise me. Modern Zodiac watches have been known for reliability issues, especially the ones running STP movements. While I haven’t had any failures with my Super Sea Wolf No Date’s STP 3-13, the crown stem does fail to engage the hacking lever at times, and the hand winding also starts binding up occasionally, but my friend’s STP 3-13 in his date Super Sea Wolf self destructed, forcing him to junk the entire movement, and have his watchmaker install a Sellita SW-200 with a couple of modifications to accommodate the movement. Buyer beware when it comes to Zodiac, or ANY watches running STP movements, which is a shame, because I LOVE the size and color designs of Zodiac. Sellita and ETA are FAR better choices. I’d say stick to Oris or Sinn instead of Zodiac.
My chronometer tissot powermatic 80 luxury had the the damned balance staph come out in its own. Repair.? $450. How much I paid? $700. Getting it fixed? Never
@@christopherjefferson3561 Thats why Im giving a pass on all Hamiltons,Midos,Tissots,Rados,Certinas and Longines,until Swatch Group will not make Powermatics available to buy on my own
I recently (two months ago) picked up a new Zodiac SeaWolf Topper Edition (Pepsi). The same exact thing happened when I resized mine, broke immediately in the same place. I was still able to eventually fix, but I should not have had to go to my spare parts bin to fix a new bracelet. I size bracelets all the time so I feel confident it was not user error. So discouraged by it, that I have more or less shelved it until I find the right bracelet or strap. Luckily, I did not have any issues with alignment on the dial.
The bracelet I can forgive if it was a defect in the metal. There is really no way for Zodiac to find that, but the dial not aligning is purely on Zodiac. Their QA should have caught that.
Agree completely - unacceptable lack of quality control (at any price), but insultingly poor QC at $1795. Not using screw pins is also unacceptable at this price.
I agree that screw pins are cooler and look more expensive but pin and collar is actually the more reliable option. I would rather have a better QC control than that...
I have a Zodiac Seawolf GMT (Toppers Crystal Pepsi version), and can confirm that the lume and applied indices do not line up on mine either. It's less noticeable because it doesn't have that GMT chapter ring, pushing the lume to the edge of the dial -- I wouldn't have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. :P My bracelet has been fine, but you are right, janky pin & collar is not okay at an $1,800 asking price. I don't think I would buy another Zodiac new, but I like this one enough to keep it for the time being.
I like the look of this Zodiac. After watching the review and for $1800, I wouldn't throw down that much cash knowing the reliability issues. They should really have their problem points all ironed out if their asking price is that high
I have this watch and ran into the exact same issue with the final threaded pin next to the clasp. It only bent slightly so the link didn’t fall apart but I’m still very annoyed. Apart from that, I think the bracelet is actually pretty nice. I wore it on the bracelet for a week before going with a brown leather strap just like you. I love the aesthetic and am daily wearing it over an Omega, Rolex, IWC, 2 JLCs and many others.
A discontinued quartz model Grandhydra still can be found new for around $200-250. And I think this is one the best deals for everyday quartz watch with some vintage aesthetic.
I just picked up a green dial grandhydra. Really like it. I was wondering what the deal was with the grandhydra if it was actually discontinued or if it was a model they just don’t sell direct and only sell wholesale bc it’s easy to find them all NIB
Love, love the honesty!! So hard to find UA-camr who is not biased, but also, does good in depth analysis. Definitely sidestepping Zodiac after this review - absolutely awful QC. I also took your review to heart about Yema - and decided against buying them, think I dodged a bullet there too!! Please, please keep up the HONEST reviews 👍🏼👍🏼💯 Subscribed! Which is something I rarely do.
Not the same watch but I got a Hodinkee super seawolf GMT Brand new and it had issues with the bracelet right out of the Box also. I had to send it back for warranty repair. Very disappointing
I recently got a Seadragon Chronograph with the blue dial because I fell in love with that retro-looking vibe. But if Fossil wants to cash up on the heritage of the brand, they really need to get it together. Sadly have to agree with you, those details are unacceptable at such price range.
Lots of things assembled during the pandemic are not made well. Mostly due to material shortages and forced shut downs in the Manufacturing process. Not sure if that is the case here. Just one idea.
Jory broke the watch....you can see it in his eyes when he talks about the bent link. Like something that would happen while trying to remove something the wrong way :)
That's very disappointing. I absolutely love Zodiac designs and how they aren't afraid to be creative with color. I've had a Sea Wolf on my want list for a while now. I would hope, if I saved up enough to buy one, it wouldn't have those issues. It would definitely be a watch I would need to see in person first.
I have a zodiac olympos and the date wheel wouldn’t flip over from 7 to 8. There was something binding it up at those dates. Sent it back under warranty and it works now but it’s ridiculous that an $800 watch would have that issue straight from the factory
Worldtimers are BLOOODY GOOOD, and this one look BLEEEEDING COOL, but, yessss, i agree: 1700and more USD or Euros...a bit out of a clean and smooth logical target 🦍🦍🦍
The design is nice, but all things considered a Citizen BJ7100-23X is a cheaper and better watch. At its price-point, Zodiac is knocking on the door of Mühle-Glashütte or Longines or Nomos, but quality-wise it is more comparable to Accurist, at best.
I picked up a Jetomatic, own a Grandhydra, and an Air Dragon. Never had a problem. I’m surprised, by the price for one thing, and the bracelet issue is just unacceptable. The lume marker would make me itch. Nice piece if they got it right.
Invicta does things that others do for thousands, does for hundreds! They are copycats just like every other watch and car manufacturer. I have an Invicta hulk watch with a Sellita Sw200 chronograph in green IP! What!? It sucks? No way! It keeps plus 2 seconds per day! They lead the way in some aspects, not all. They are not afraid. I have all kinds of Seikos, Omegas, Casios and small manufacturers like Direnzo. Benrus and Bulova. I look for features, movement, function and style. I won't pay for label if not warranted ie, Moonwatch! Every manufacturer has an acceptable amount of defect. Stand behind the People who stand behind the product and its purchasers.
I bought the jet o matic with the stp 3-13 had to have replaced with Stelita movement. Now the screw down crown seems cross threaded. I sent it off first to the warrant dept and they were unable to fix the movement.
I just got my first swiss movement watch last week, a SSW 53 compression (ZO9289.) I fell in love with it as soon as i opened the box, literally everything i wanted in a watch, looked perfect, wore great, and very comfortable strap. I went to hack it to set the time and the seconds hand kept moving, then fluttered backwards before finally coming to a stop. I brushed it off hoping it was just a fluke. Then i went to wind the movement and the crown was so hard to wind that if i had put any more pressure id probably have broken something. It went back to Zodiac for a refund and im extremely disappointed. I expected was more from Zodiac, especially in a $1,200 watch. If i didnt love the watch so much i wouldnt be disappointed, but of course it had to happen in something i really, really liked.
Bought a Sea Wolf in November 2022; (STP 3-13). It stopped 3 months later. Sent it in and they sent a new one. Wore the new one for about six weeks and then the timing started shifting from fast to slow, then fast. It was odd. I sent it back and haven’t heard anything yet, but I feel it’s going to be disappointing.
About 6 months ago I bought the Neon Super Sea Wolf GMT, and sadly the exact same thing happened with a link in the bracelet. I have had no other issues, and usually wear it on a neon Green tropic strap, but was disappointed with the link issue.
You guys are funny. Spending 1800$ on some fancy junk that is not even half decent. My king samurai is not perfect either, shitty bracelet and misalignment, but it cost me 450$.
I agree with you that the Zodiac watches are not well put together. I had a Zodiac GMT and found it to be less refined and had a gritty bezel action and wasn't a big fan of how the movement felt either
I thought Zodiac was a semi high end watch maker? Its a nice watch but the higher the price the higher the level of attention to detail and QC needs to be. I would rather have a Tissot if this is the standard.
My Zodiac Super Seawolf is less than 4 months old and it stopped winding yesterday. It’s extremely difficult to turn the crown and when it eventually does i can feel the rotor turning with it. I emailed Hodinkee but I’m guessing I won’t hear back until after the thanksgiving holidays. I assume I’ll have to send it in under warranty for a service which is a shame because otherwise I really like the watch.
Im scared to watch this . I really wanted this watch so fuckin bad ive been saving for it im gunna cry 😢. It was this or an older seiko WT . Idk what to do . I need to keep looking i guess.
The bracelet is a problem for me as well. Nearly the same problem but mine was the stretch link that just blew up! Too bad as it's cool looking but that's about it.
Who knows the bracelet stainless Steel from zodiac grandhydra quartz ,its a beautiful watch but is a problem with the bracelet because cames off ,for the one who knows the model of bracelet the links cames off they are not strong enough
Wow this is the first time that a reviewer mention to have this problems with this Zodiac, that’s very bad for a watch to have that many problems and sad because overall it’s looks good.
That's a shame. I've got a Sea Dragon ZO9910 with the STP 1-11, and it's been rock solid for the past two years! I really want to get at Zodiac Olympos too!
It’s a shame but the QC issues at this price is simply not good enough. The misalignment is sloppy (taking their cue from a large Japanese brand). It’s lovely looking. Watch in a style I love.
Its would be a solid watch if the cons weren't so obvious awesome awesome awesome review 👌but for over 1000 buck 😲 hell to the NO!! 👏👏🤣🤣🤣 Not worth it 🤔
Curious what Zodiac has to say about your review. And if they will be sending you another bracelet. I could live with the indexes not lining up, but only on a watch at a quarter of that price.
It's about time someone was honest about this brand! I've owned a Super Sea Wolf 53 and have had a number of issues... 1. Malfunctioning movement 2. Broken Bezel (TWICE!) 3. Crown and stem popped out when I 1st purchased. They make gorgeous pieces, however the quality is SEVERELY lacking!
That watch literally looks like it was designed by 5 or 6 hipsters who happen to hate each other . If that watch were a car , it would be a Mazda RX-8 . The leather strap is gorgeous though .
This really is a “fake world time”. Usually the world time function needs to have a quick set hour hand and even quick set time zone function. They really just slapped a world time ring on a gmt watch, which is atrocious for a watch priced this high.
O yeah brotha great review now how do you feel about the Aquastar Deepstar 2 that's just got announced a little while ago 🤔I'm actually really digging the 37mm case size I pre ordered the last batch of 300 black dial
Finally got a chance to hold a Seawolf in my hand at a local dealer. Case shape yuck, bracelet yuck, the color of the bezel seen in person yuck. Very disappointed.
I don't trust anything made by Fossil. It's all overpriced garbage. I have a similar opinion about any of the licensed pieces Timex makes. I love Timex itself, but Versace and Ferragamo are just jokes 😂
This doesn’t surprise me. Modern Zodiac watches have been known for reliability issues, especially the ones running STP movements. While I haven’t had any failures with my Super Sea Wolf No Date’s STP 3-13, the crown stem does fail to engage the hacking lever at times, and the hand winding also starts binding up occasionally, but my friend’s STP 3-13 in his date Super Sea Wolf self destructed, forcing him to junk the entire movement, and have his watchmaker install a Sellita SW-200 with a couple of modifications to accommodate the movement. Buyer beware when it comes to Zodiac, or ANY watches running STP movements, which is a shame, because I LOVE the size and color designs of Zodiac. Sellita and ETA are FAR better choices. I’d say stick to Oris or Sinn instead of Zodiac.
My chronometer tissot powermatic 80 luxury had the the damned balance staph come out in its own. Repair.? $450. How much I paid? $700. Getting it fixed? Never
@@christopherjefferson3561 Thats why Im giving a pass on all Hamiltons,Midos,Tissots,Rados,Certinas and Longines,until Swatch Group will not make Powermatics available to buy on my own
What do you think about the new Zodiac Super Sea Wolf Pro Diver?
I recently (two months ago) picked up a new Zodiac SeaWolf Topper Edition (Pepsi). The same exact thing happened when I resized mine, broke immediately in the same place. I was still able to eventually fix, but I should not have had to go to my spare parts bin to fix a new bracelet. I size bracelets all the time so I feel confident it was not user error. So discouraged by it, that I have more or less shelved it until I find the right bracelet or strap. Luckily, I did not have any issues with alignment on the dial.
The bracelet I can forgive if it was a defect in the metal. There is really no way for Zodiac to find that, but the dial not aligning is purely on Zodiac. Their QA should have caught that.
Agree completely - unacceptable lack of quality control (at any price), but insultingly poor QC at $1795. Not using screw pins is also unacceptable at this price.
Pin and collar is actually cool
I agree that screw pins are cooler and look more expensive but pin and collar is actually the more reliable option.
I would rather have a better QC control than that...
You could knock $1k off the watch and it would still be overpriced. Lets hope Fossil sells Zodiac and someone buy's it that can make watches.
The seconds hand is also looking a little dirty to my eye on the macro shots
I have a Zodiac Seawolf GMT (Toppers Crystal Pepsi version), and can confirm that the lume and applied indices do not line up on mine either. It's less noticeable because it doesn't have that GMT chapter ring, pushing the lume to the edge of the dial -- I wouldn't have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. :P My bracelet has been fine, but you are right, janky pin & collar is not okay at an $1,800 asking price. I don't think I would buy another Zodiac new, but I like this one enough to keep it for the time being.
I bought a Seawolf, and it had a spec of dust on the dial. I will never purchase a Zodiac again.
I like the look of this Zodiac. After watching the review and for $1800, I wouldn't throw down that much cash knowing the reliability issues. They should really have their problem points all ironed out if their asking price is that high
I have this watch and ran into the exact same issue with the final threaded pin next to the clasp. It only bent slightly so the link didn’t fall apart but I’m still very annoyed. Apart from that, I think the bracelet is actually pretty nice.
I wore it on the bracelet for a week before going with a brown leather strap just like you. I love the aesthetic and am daily wearing it over an Omega, Rolex, IWC, 2 JLCs and many others.
A discontinued quartz model Grandhydra still can be found new for around $200-250. And I think this is one the best deals for everyday quartz watch with some vintage aesthetic.
I just picked up a green dial grandhydra. Really like it. I was wondering what the deal was with the grandhydra if it was actually discontinued or if it was a model they just don’t sell direct and only sell wholesale bc it’s easy to find them all NIB
That’s why I prefer a Seiko prospex!!!!
That's hilarious, I guess you love misalignments!
Love, love the honesty!! So hard to find UA-camr who is not biased, but also, does good in depth analysis.
Definitely sidestepping Zodiac after this review - absolutely awful QC. I also took your review to heart about Yema - and decided against buying them, think I dodged a bullet there too!! Please, please keep up the HONEST reviews 👍🏼👍🏼💯
Subscribed! Which is something I rarely do.
I'm a big fan of Zodiac. I own a V-Wolf and an Oceanaire but I wouldn't pay $1,700 for that.
Not the same watch but I got a Hodinkee super seawolf GMT Brand new and it had issues with the bracelet right out of the Box also. I had to send it back for warranty repair. Very disappointing
I recently got a Seadragon Chronograph with the blue dial because I fell in love with that retro-looking vibe. But if Fossil wants to cash up on the heritage of the brand, they really need to get it together. Sadly have to agree with you, those details are unacceptable at such price range.
Lots of things assembled during the pandemic are not made well. Mostly due to material shortages and forced shut downs in the Manufacturing process. Not sure if that is the case here. Just one idea.
Bought one of these last month and it didn't speak to me so I returned it, something I'm happy about after watching your damning review.
Not to far from a 125$ Fossil branded watch.
Not forgetting other over priced shite brands that Fossil makes such as Emporio Armani.
Jory broke the watch....you can see it in his eyes when he talks about the bent link. Like something that would happen while trying to remove something the wrong way :)
That's very disappointing. I absolutely love Zodiac designs and how they aren't afraid to be creative with color. I've had a Sea Wolf on my want list for a while now. I would hope, if I saved up enough to buy one, it wouldn't have those issues. It would definitely be a watch I would need to see in person first.
Just wear vintage Omega. I am wearing steel blue faces 1012 with 23 jewels 28800 bears. This is a 1973 watch.
Thanks for your honest comments.
I have a zodiac olympos and the date wheel wouldn’t flip over from 7 to 8. There was something binding it up at those dates. Sent it back under warranty and it works now but it’s ridiculous that an $800 watch would have that issue straight from the factory
what an ontime video thanks a lot just decided to pull the trigger for this...you saved my 1700 dollars😁😁😁
I recently saw a post from another reviewer of this watch who had received one with one of the cities misspelled on the bezel.
Worldtimers are BLOOODY GOOOD, and this one look BLEEEEDING COOL, but, yessss, i agree: 1700and more USD or Euros...a bit out of a clean and smooth logical target 🦍🦍🦍
I’m in Boston what time does it start on Friday
The design is nice, but all things considered a Citizen BJ7100-23X is a cheaper and better watch. At its price-point, Zodiac is knocking on the door of Mühle-Glashütte or Longines or Nomos, but quality-wise it is more comparable to Accurist, at best.
Hm I was considering the new black ceramic version but now I am very unsure about it!
Shame, as it looks really good on that leather strap.
Good for you for being willing to mention serious negatives on a watch provided to you by a sponsor it highlights your honesty and credibility
You wouldn't see those faults on a $200 Chinese watch.
Wait. What day is Friday?
I picked up a Jetomatic, own a Grandhydra, and an Air Dragon. Never had a problem. I’m surprised, by the price for one thing, and the bracelet issue is just unacceptable. The lume marker would make me itch. Nice piece if they got it right.
Invicta does things that others do for thousands, does for hundreds! They are copycats just like every other watch and car manufacturer. I have an Invicta hulk watch with a Sellita Sw200 chronograph in green IP! What!? It sucks? No way! It keeps plus 2 seconds per day!
They lead the way in some aspects, not all. They are not afraid. I have all kinds of Seikos, Omegas, Casios and small manufacturers like Direnzo. Benrus and Bulova. I look for features, movement, function and style. I won't pay for label if not warranted ie, Moonwatch!
Every manufacturer has an acceptable amount of defect. Stand behind the People who stand behind the product and its purchasers.
I bought the jet o matic with the stp 3-13 had to have replaced with Stelita movement. Now the screw down crown seems cross threaded. I sent it off first to the warrant dept and they were unable to fix the movement.
I just got my first swiss movement watch last week, a SSW 53 compression (ZO9289.) I fell in love with it as soon as i opened the box, literally everything i wanted in a watch, looked perfect, wore great, and very comfortable strap. I went to hack it to set the time and the seconds hand kept moving, then fluttered backwards before finally coming to a stop. I brushed it off hoping it was just a fluke. Then i went to wind the movement and the crown was so hard to wind that if i had put any more pressure id probably have broken something. It went back to Zodiac for a refund and im extremely disappointed. I expected was more from Zodiac, especially in a $1,200 watch. If i didnt love the watch so much i wouldnt be disappointed, but of course it had to happen in something i really, really liked.
Bought a Sea Wolf in November 2022; (STP 3-13). It stopped 3 months later. Sent it in and they sent a new one. Wore the new one for about six weeks and then the timing started shifting from fast to slow, then fast. It was odd. I sent it back and haven’t heard anything yet, but I feel it’s going to be disappointing.
That is quite catastrophic indeed.
About 6 months ago I bought the Neon Super Sea Wolf GMT, and sadly the exact same thing happened with a link in the bracelet. I have had no other issues, and usually wear it on a neon Green tropic strap, but was disappointed with the link issue.
Hey Jason, I bought the same watch. Have there been any other issues with it?
You guys are funny. Spending 1800$ on some fancy junk that is not even half decent.
My king samurai is not perfect either, shitty bracelet and misalignment, but it cost me 450$.
The Wizard of Time, indeed
I agree with you that the Zodiac watches are not well put together. I had a Zodiac GMT and found it to be less refined and had a gritty bezel action and wasn't a big fan of how the movement felt either
Those faults would also annoy me.
Looks cool, but around a grand too expensive given the QC issues. A shame because it is handsome
Cheers mate 👍👍
I thought Zodiac was a semi high end watch maker? Its a nice watch but the higher the price the higher the level of attention to detail and QC needs to be. I would rather have a Tissot if this is the standard.
Fossil quality for over $1k?
My Zodiac Super Seawolf is less than 4 months old and it stopped winding yesterday. It’s extremely difficult to turn the crown and when it eventually does i can feel the rotor turning with it. I emailed Hodinkee but I’m guessing I won’t hear back until after the thanksgiving holidays. I assume I’ll have to send it in under warranty for a service which is a shame because otherwise I really like the watch.
I'm pretty sure that band looks like it was made out of genuine Godzilla leather …. Awesome !!!
I think there's a problem with their movements also.
What is this 'Black Friday' of which you speak? *Canadian :P
What’s wrong with ‘Tudor’ Hublot agreed… but the Tudor Black Bay is awesome what’s your beef????
Im scared to watch this . I really wanted this watch so fuckin bad ive been saving for it im gunna cry 😢. It was this or an older seiko WT . Idk what to do . I need to keep looking i guess.
The bracelet is a problem for me as well. Nearly the same problem but mine was the stretch link that just blew up! Too bad as it's cool looking but that's about it.
He meant to say the Fossil STP world time. I don't know what this zodiac company is.
I enjoy bashing breitling, Tag and Hublot... I never think about invicta
Love vintage style diver watch
Great review, but dang….Best of Both Worlds and no Van Halen? Come on Man!
Who knows the bracelet stainless Steel from zodiac grandhydra quartz ,its a beautiful watch but is a problem with the bracelet because cames off ,for the one who knows the model of bracelet the links cames off they are not strong enough
Although it sucks about that Zodiac, it’s good to see you be honest and point out obvious issues. I value the opinion of this channel more now
Wow this is the first time that a reviewer mention to have this problems with this Zodiac, that’s very bad for a watch to have that many problems and sad because overall it’s looks good.
All the complaints regarding QC seem to have started a few years after Fossil bought them.
You always make me laugh! The humour is top notch :)
That's a shame. I've got a Sea Dragon ZO9910 with the STP 1-11, and it's been rock solid for the past two years! I really want to get at Zodiac Olympos too!
It’s a shame but the QC issues at this price is simply not good enough. The misalignment is sloppy (taking their cue from a large Japanese brand). It’s lovely looking. Watch in a style I love.
Looks like they have taken a page from Seiko’s QC playbook. Why spend the money to line things up properly when people will buy it regardless.
Its would be a solid watch if the cons weren't so obvious awesome awesome awesome review 👌but for over 1000 buck 😲 hell to the NO!! 👏👏🤣🤣🤣 Not worth it 🤔
Curious what Zodiac has to say about your review. And if they will be sending you another bracelet.
I could live with the indexes not lining up, but only on a watch at a quarter of that price.
Great watch. Many issues. Hope they will improve the QC after this review.
Dear God...
Always liked this brand. Shame about this one. Messy stuff 🙁
Makes Seiko look good
It's about time someone was honest about this brand!
I've owned a Super Sea Wolf 53 and have had a number of issues...
1. Malfunctioning movement
2. Broken Bezel (TWICE!)
3. Crown and stem popped out when I 1st purchased.
They make gorgeous pieces, however the quality is SEVERELY lacking!
Unacceptable
So the watch is worth it if it’s free. It sucks if you have to pay for it 😂
That watch literally looks like it was designed by 5 or 6 hipsters who happen to hate each other . If that watch were a car , it would be a Mazda RX-8 . The leather strap is gorgeous though .
Nice watch... overpriced.
I just wanna say the Miley Cyrus cut-in was ingenious. Please do more random shit like that
Off course it’s over price that watch should cost no more than $600 even if it’s Zodiac.
Dang.
That's disappointing
rip rip rip
The lume markers look to be all misaligned. Could it be.... a feature? :)
The markers don't line up. *Seiko whistles and walks away*
This really is a “fake world time”. Usually the world time function needs to have a quick set hour hand and even quick set time zone function. They really just slapped a world time ring on a gmt watch, which is atrocious for a watch priced this high.
Just when I thought I had gotten over my crush on Hannah Montana you have to bring her back in my life.
O yeah brotha great review now how do you feel about the Aquastar Deepstar 2 that's just got announced a little while ago 🤔I'm actually really digging the 37mm case size I pre ordered the last batch of 300 black dial
Finally got a chance to hold a Seawolf in my hand at a local dealer. Case shape yuck, bracelet yuck, the color of the bezel seen in person yuck. Very disappointed.
Say it!!! Say the brand name that you love to bash on🤣🤣🤣
I wouldnt call that 'super clean' 🤣
Lesson of the day, buy a vintage one... (An actual vintage zodiac)
I don't trust anything made by Fossil. It's all overpriced garbage.
I have a similar opinion about any of the licensed pieces Timex makes. I love Timex itself, but Versace and Ferragamo are just jokes 😂
Do a review on the g shock ga100b 4a
I'm the first viewer!
Zodiac taking a page out of the Seiko QC playbook.
You don't have No sturhling watches reviews?
No. None.
@@thetimeteller then do you mind if you can please make a review of it or the akribos watch? :) thank you so much 😊
The Seiko curse now hitting other companies.
#4 thumbs up
who else likes these watches but is hesitant to buy a zodiac watch because of the zodiac killer?