To Catch a Hacker - Overwatch Investigations
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2015
- Counter-Strike: Global Offensive series where we review demos of suspected cheaters, and make a decision about whether to ban them from the game or not.
This time, our Suspect puts on a show in inferno showcasing cruel bullying of this teammates, and suspicious shooting that screams Wallhacking. Is it enough to convict?
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MOAR? MOAR!!!! Alright alright the mob has spoken, more Overwatch videos! yayyyyy
MORE mister owl the saviour of the silvers
The Saviour of Silvers.
i like playing against hackers
Thank god you are a reasonable person on Overwatch. every person I play with would insta ban that guy because of the dumb luck.
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE OVERWATCH PLEASE and in that format i usually hate overwatch vids but that was awesome!!!!!!!
4:30 this is exactly why you are probably the best overwatcher I have seen. Everyone else doesn't think about that when reviewing an overwatch.
Wow really? You must've seen alot of shitty overwatchers then. I've been doing overwatch since it first came out and always done it like the WarOwl just demonstrated. I guess 2500+ hours of being an admin in TF2 + CSS helped as well.
Well if you have brains you do Overwatch like this. If you are just a dumb kid then you should not even do Overwatch :D
KingOfBlades27 Umm, I didn't say I did Overwatch. O_o
Elsama Bin Anna Sorry I didn't mean you. Just people overall :)
MrJipvh he's right. Almost every streamer does overwatch, including the pros, and so many times I've seen them say "well im not sure, but let's say cheating". WAY too many people vote guilty even when they themselves have reasonable doubt, these same people are probably jurors. :(
I wish Overwatch/Demos included audio from voice chat as well.
I say wish because I realize that this would really impact game performance, but think of all the evidence you'd round up if the team was in on it. You would also hear the team yelling "Yeah, report him cause he's good!" if they're abusing the report system.
Just a thought.
That's not abuse though. It's tough for the opposing team to tell if a player is hacking for sure since they can't see it from his perspective. Reporting suspicious players so overwatchers can take a look doesn't hurt players that are just playing well.
Its also very important to know if he has intel or not, if he doesn't and he does something suspicious it means a lot for the accusation, if he does have intel that might change the verdict. Shooting through a random smoke is pretty weird if you don't know someone yelled "Banana going to mid" in chat.
People can use external chat programs... and Valve's intentions are to keep overwatch players not knowing who they are reviewing
MiauFrito They do, but it's info thats needed. I want to know if they are a 5 man premade or if he is solo queue-ing. Thats info that can determine the verdict.
***** Then have them sign something like that, Overwatch needs improvement, looking at someone play the game isn't doing much, playback is 16 tick so that means that most small aim assistance things can easily be overlooked, no text or voicechat meaning we don't know if they have the information needed to attempt to prefire. There we have Aim assistance and Wallhacks that we cannot accurately review.
And then there is MOETV, one suspicious shot = OBVIOUSLY wallhack, triggerbot, aimlock, griefing ,speedhack, superhack wikileaks, etc.......XD
what a fat salty bitch, but he is funny witch is nice hahahaha
Aero 神 Whose the girl in ur profile pic?
This should really be called: Owl-watch :P
Owl-Watch. it is here
Something Owl related, at least. Maybe something to do with their night vision or something... we're on the right track.
TheWarOwl Give us more Owl-watch :D
Zechariah Avarlo *Showers Avarle in cookies*
Gamecool10 YAY cookies :D
Why did I think this was gonna be the new blizzard shooter
I will be playing that BTW.
TheWarOwl MY LIFE IS COMPLETE
He got a damn beta invite, damnit!
I thought so 2 it's ok
eugeneplusyeah actually I didn't. Do you think I could apply for a 'press' one?
It's a murder! I loled so hard
How old were you when you commented this
@@mrtisfree hmm i don't remember i ever wrote this, will rewatch it.
@@mrtisfree DOesn't matter how old I was I still lolled again to this masterpiece
dino grgic lolled?
@@mrtisfree Yea, laughed out loud?
I've watched a few of your cases and i must say i like those "middle ground" cases, where the suspect is very subtle. It puts your mind to work. I like that
I would just like to start by saying I really enjoyed the video. It was great to see your clear process in determining guilt. If I can give one point of criticism tho it would be to not use the term "hacker". The term is thrown around so loosely now that it has basically lost any real meaning. Those who chose to use visual assistance, aim assistance, or other scripts are at best cheaters and NOT hackers. I wouldn't call myself a Tailor because I bought a pair of pants, nor would I call myself a hacker because I bought a script/bot/program.
I say this as someone who has used scripts/bots in games and for other purposes. Asside from learning a lot about the technology involved, I also learned the difference between being a hacker and a simple script kiddy/cheater. I started out as a kiddy and a cheater, now I can write my own scripts and bots and I do so in my career in IT. I no longer cheat, for those of you who will throw stones.
Point is, a hacker is someone with profound knowledge of the technology who alters or exploits a system for any purpose. Someone who simply buys/steals/uses a hackers work, is just a cheater, a simple script kiddy. They have no idea how or why what they are using does what it does, they are just happy it works. I started there, I graduated from it, I learned and I am better off for it. It is time as a community we stop gratifying every cheaters want to be known as something special. Let me tell you when I was 14 and I was called a hacker because I used a bot I found on the internet, I felt like a bad-ass. It is what you want when you know nothing, to be called something more. Stop gratifying that mentality and surely some of the cheaters will fade away as they no longer feel satisfied being called a cheater instead of a hacker.
Shut up and watch the tucking video
Brendan Bouzas He already did... This is evident from the get-go of his comment, "I would just like to start by saying I really enjoyed the video".
Brendan Bouzas There's no reason to be rude.
swag master Incorrect.
swag master He just explained why it's not. Are you going to make some more claims without backing it up?
I like it, Love the set up with the evidence vids to the sides of the verdict, great way to do it, I wanna see more :)
oh and, MURRRRRDERRR
I would love to see more of these!
Glad you're feeling better.
actually really enjoyed this, hope it becomes a series if its not to much editing for you hopefully a very regular series
More of this series please!
WarOwl about the shot trough the smoke, the smoke grenades in demos tend to last longer for some reason so it's possible that the smoke was already gone when our suspect pulled the trigger
You do overwatch really well with the editing and all that. I want MOAR MOAR
Omg this could be the best series ever!
MOREEE
TOTALLY NEW SERIES! The MURDER! scene was awesome.
Yes. This Series.
Yes.
recently got into your videos... man I love em! lots of great tips and advice from someone who is actually entertaining enough to WANT to keep watching.
Love these vids WarOwl, keep pumping them out!
Doing more of these would definitely be a good idea!
Finnaly a real closer. "I'm Back Baby!"
I took me 6 years to discover that he has a closer hahaha
You and Judge Jack are my favorite Overwatchers. You actually give these guys the time of day. I agree with this so much.
I loved how at the end you showed all the evidence as you went through it and threw in some funny bits. Moar!
i'm ugly and im proud
You Go Girl!
TheWarOwl you mean spongebob?
(Its a spongebob referencw) [probably]
So Chaboy Should get 30 day ban every vid?
Yes
ye why not
Please make this a series! It could teach so many users of Overwatch a lot. You have a very good idea of the game as well as a good system of judgement. I watch a lot of these videos because i enjoy the Overwatch system, but so many people get it wrong, they go in straight away thinking the person is hacking and immediately they see something that is complete dumb luck and label them a hacker.. its quite sad really. Thank you, War Owl. Keep up the awesome videos you sexy voiced man-beast.
i would like more of this i really like they way you brought the clips up when you were talking about each offense
When I'm depressed I watch your videos to bring me into a positive mood
if he's hacking he'll get reported again and it will be more obvious in another overwatch case so dont worry about calling people innocent.
MOAR!!! oh wait....
Welp, this is even better than in the live streams! This is a great start of a series. The edition is really polished, I loved the ironic comparison with a live real life detective investigation.... Anyway, this is why I'm subscribed XD
Loved it! You gotta post more of these.
I remember seeing the original Noir Smart, PI video and hoping it would turn into its own series the way Captain Longbeard did XD Now my dream is finally coming true! Haha!
I was scratching my head a little as this does seem a little redundant with what you did basically every streaming day for last year, but if you do decide to turn this into a series, I would definitely watch it. I was always a little uncomfortable with the "trial by mob" feel of the overwatch on stream, and I enjoy how this version goes into your own thought process a little more.
Cheers! Nam amor ludum,
-Hrairoo53
I don't base my decisions by the mob on the stream, they are there to catch stuff I may have missed, and direct me back to specific rounds. I would say it actually helps! There were a few times where I was going to put innocent, people pointed something out, and I changed my pick, probably for the better!
TheWarOwl Yeah, I understand that, in the long-term, crowd-sourcing is probably more helpful than harmful, but it's nice to see the same format without all of the internet's noise thrown in. ;)
I would love to see this as a series, maybe with your friends/mods in on the discussion. I could even see this as a subset of your "podcast" circle of playlists, where you discuss patterns in cheating and online interaction in the community.
Jordan Yee If I continue this series, and it really seems like people want me to do that based on the comments! (Yes I read them all) I'll probably keep a format similar to this one, without repeating all the set up to what it is about, instead jumping directly into the Overwatch, keeping it more of a mix of comedy and analysis, nothing heavy, just fun. I've talked about cheating before, there's not really much I really have to offer to that conversation.
TheWarOwl I don't know how you can read every comment and still find time to make great videos, good job!
TheWarOwl You read all the comments??? OMG! I know the majority of them are just spam, trolls, and garbage, but still that's a lot of work? WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR TIME MACHINE?!?!? SHOULD I CALL THE DOCTOR?!?!?
wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.......
War owl cooking episode
Owl, the one man who can make an investigation such as this both hilarious and educational at the same time. I applaud thee, Sir Owl.
I'm really enjoying the series. Please make more.
More of this please :)
The one where he followed a guy on stairs, he just was checking the hole.
Returning to this in 2017... Ah, the memories. I liked these a lot.
I'd love these to be unedited tbh. The edit of the 'evidence' stuff is pretty great though. I hope this continues.
OBJECTION! Your honor, this advocate Owl needs to upload more cases to build up his reputation as a lawyer in the overwatch court so that his videos are more believable.
Warowl when he shot through the smoke at 2:40 is because it was clear ingame but the demos messed it up and showed the smoke was still there.
Its the other way around.
Rocket what?
Smoke can mess up in game, not in demos.
Rocket You've got your facts wrong, smokes happen to bug very often in demos, making it seem like they were still up while they weren't. I've watched countless demo's of my own games where I shoot people through smokes that weren't there in the actual game.
Rocket either way, smoke wasn't there in-game but is in demo.
I would absolutely love this to be a weekly/monthly series kind of thing.
Probably one of the best quality videos for overwatch TO DATE
3:35 Well when I pull out my knife I swipe with right-click too it's like a habit, but he looked scared seeing how he shook his mouse after that
Can I get some tips on Overwatch? Honestly I just wanna know how to activate the Player, where you slow down time itself and can replay the evidance. Or if anyone fells like it share your Overwatch techniques with the comments! :)
Shift + F2
TheWarOwl Thankyou very much sir. With the help of the might WarOwl and Overwatch we shall rid CS:GO of theese filthy cheaters.
Tilen Strmšek There are more Cheaters than overwatchers :D They will never go :(
Tak3r2009 Anything is possilbe in Counter Strike baby!
- WarOwl
I got so close to gn1 and de ranked so I can't get overwatch
This was actually very interesting. MOAR please!
thx for the vid WarOwl and i rly hopeing to see more overwatch vods from ya
Exhibit C for Wallhacking was absolutely not even close to suspicious.
People swipe their knives like they swipe their phones, so it wasn't suspicious at all.
He stopped walking forward, took a step back then continued to forward again before swiping with his knife - this was likely done to allow the knife to be properly pulled out, so he could try and swipe at the guy. Also, the fact that he didn't reload before going through the smoke suggests he knew there wasn't anybody there to shoot.
Anyways, doesn't really matter as this was 4 years ago and he'll probably be banned now.
I saw a lot of overwatch clicking on "beyond any resonable doubts" even if the guy doesn't look 100% suspicious. I leave comments to that kind of overwatch just to tell them that no one will ever try to preshoot or wall bang just by fear that one day a dumb overwatch will get them banned.
People these days jump on the first occasion to call someone a hacker. Personnaly I have around 1000 hours in game and I only met 2 hackers all that time. So there are just people that are a lot better than us in counter strike. Calling for a hack everytime you get hs by someone, or being shot into the smoke, won't do you any good especially if you want to get better in the game.
I have like 30 hours and i saw 3 fidget spinnets wtf
Love this, a series would be awesome
Best series ever!!!!! I hope that you keep in the series
Amazing video, really funny and light. It is difficult to find something like this now days. Hi from Brazil HueHueHueBR
You excited for Keyd Stars!?
TheWarOwl Yes, I am. Hope they at least go through the group fase.
Lus Jaffa EN!!!
Lus Jaffa Hey brother
Lus Jaffa hey
I don't think he was really griefing. I think that he and whale were probably queued together and that they were probably screwing around on teamspeak
After watching the entire demo, I believe he and Whale were queued together, but he never killed or shot Whale.
Whoops, my mistake.
***** I think it gives temp bans
I was on that demo and that was my friend who i shot
thesantex even IF it was your friend, killing your friend is griefing to the other 3 players, unless it's a 5 man premade.
Great vid WarOwl. Please do more!
glad to have you back warowl!
I WANT OVERWATCH GIVE ME MORE NOW
A MURDER!, cant stop laughing
I would watch this as a series from you for sure.
More of these videos please, WarOwl the detective.
If you look closely, this is a comment.
Probably. But you'll definitely see the text.
If you look even closer, you can see a map of the earth.
Penguinox fuckin illuminati ...
*DRAMATIC MUSIC*
Should it be called Owl-Vision? Owl-Watch? Or etc?
I definitely would like to see more of these. It's good to see some arguments made FOR and AGAINST the demoed player. People might learn how to judge suspected cheating with the judicial system approach that you just can't go with the masses against someone for just a feeling. Thanks for the analysis!
I always really enjoy over watch videos. I would like to see more of yours.
Guys does the flip knife open faster than the butterfly knife?
TheRandom PvP nope, just animation
It looks faster but you can not stab someone faster with the flip knife. I do however believe the animation is a bit faster.
The custom knifes gives you no advantage.. expect maybe that you see more with the karambit.
alright thx guys
Yes, but you can use the butterfly before the animation is over
THROWBACK i posted this comment when i was silver 1 :3. Now, im gold nova 1. I know its not that much of a jump, but im still in school so i have no time. :(
he has only good headset ;D
xDDDD
Please do more of this. It's hella entertaining :)
Hell yea I would like to see this as a series.
finally valve has banned a good amount of hacker just a couple days ago....can't wait to play a hackers free game or smerf free games....ffs
mahmoud jasaar Smurfs are not doing anything against the TOS.
Smurfs don't get banned.
mahmoud jasaar They're not breaking any TOS, they bought the game like everyone else and thus they're not going to be banned.
About you being in Silver: Who stays there belongs there.
Classyfawx CSGO yea about me being in silver ofc I belong there I've been playing for 5 weeks now & I'm silver elite master I'm happy with it.
These comments just show how many smurfs are in the game including you, idc if u bought the game...you're a shitty person if you're a smurf period.
mahmoud jasaar you said you were looking forward to smurf free games, but that just wont happen, they never get banned and at your rank there are so many of them, you just have to get used to it
I'm at 163 wins, I'm a DMG yet I don't have Overwatch... :(
you need 200 :)
Alex Brooker that is not true lol, you just have to be over the rank of nova 1 and be a reputable player. aka people don't report you for being mean and stuff.
***** I'm pretty sure you also have to join the official overwatch group on steam; I met all the requirements and that got me in the next time I launched the game.
Souljunk No...
***** you can be nova after like 8 wins.... You just suck
Let this be a series!! I think it's important that everyone knows when to call someone a hacker also knowing that someone is a hacker or not. Many ppl complain about hacking in the game but which does not neccesserly have to be because someones hacking, they might just play very good or have dumb luck, like you discribed in the video. I agree on a series on this 100% Clarify the ppl Warowl!! You're assistance is needed x)
I really enjoyed this video. One of my favourite videos from you :)
To everyone who says smurfing isnt bad. I guess you cant compete in your own ranks ;)
well as the warowl has said sometimes you want to play with lower ranked friends without getting them into matches with high ranked players and without affecting your own rank. in all other cases you have a point.
stalectos I have recently been playing with few globals and Lems and personally i am sem. I actually enjoy playing on that high rank cause 1 the guys im playing with doesnt get mad if we lose, 2 personally as a silver i get fucking awesome feeling when i kill players from waaaaaaaaay better rank that i am :)
*****
well lets say your a global elite and you have a friend who just bought the game. do you really want to drag them into games with global elites?
stalectos Personally i think if someone just buys the game he should be playing casual and not comp
*****
well not our place to judge and the question still remains would you rather your friends first competitve games be against global elites or silvers?
TheWarOwl When do players get Overwatches? How many hrs are necessary? What rank is necessary? If you have a VAC in one other game, do you still get an Overwatch?
Xamuel You get it usually at around 150 wins, you have to be at least Gold Nova 1, nothing with hours, don't know about the VAC.
If you have a VAC ban in another game you can still do overwatch. Source: Have VAC ban on mw3
I got OW after 166 wins, i have a 1.6 VAC from 40 days, rank is Silver Elite Master. Deranked from MG1 intenationally.
Chuck Norris Sure you did
schaunichhelf And you can only review players whose ranks are under yours
I absolutely loved the video, keep em coming :)
Yes, do a series of this please, its a good viewing content
If you look closely, his aim pattern changes when he shoots his teammates, his accuracy is not the same, he CLEARLY is using aim assistance.
i made a video on drugs. check it out
Yay wanted you to do one of these for ages 😀
Please more of such videos! Thank you for doing this stuff on UA-cam...
cheating is a wonderfull thing, every person should try, don't judge before you do it. Hacking makes you a better person overall. not a better gamer thou, its a transcedental experience
Marco81blues I agree
Marco81blues Yeah, for cheaters like you. Yes, I think it is fun if you cheat, although I never cheated in CS:GO(or any game of that matter), but, if you cheat, that just means you don't have any game sense. We win, we lose. That's the nature of playing games. Fools who cheat just for the sake of enjoying their victory are just loosers. Tell me, you wouldn't really enjoy your game if people cheated and resulting in you loosing, would you? How would you feel? IMHO, cheaters should actually not play games at all if they don't work hard on improving.
Don't tell me that the world is like that and cheaters will always be cheaters. Tell me, is Tuberculosis still an incurable disease? They found a cure for it, haven't they? We changed history and now we don't have to worry that much. When a thief steals, he/she will get caught eventually, am I right? Even if it's not by the police. After facing their punishment, would they continue stealing or robbing, if they know that they would get caught and would be punished again? I don't think so.
Before, we humans live in simple cottages or houses made of wood. Now, we live in hotels, apartments and even skyscrapers. We also communicate by writing letters to each other before. Now, we have Whatsapp, LINE, WeChat and any social media you could think about.
Also, did Steve Jobs cheat to be successful? Did Albert Einstein cheat? Nikola Tesla? Stephen Hawking? All of them are successful because all of them have something in common: THEY WORKED HARD. Yup, honest work. Not cheating like you. Moreover, you cheaters cheat just to be good in playing games. The four successful people mentioned above WORKED HARD to make new discoveries, solving the world's mysteries, inventing objects that we before thought was impossible to invent and even changed the world, not playing games.
See, in this continuously evolving world, we humans, can think and improve. So I firmly believe that we could stop cheating/hacking.
You(cheaters) might not see this, as you don't even want to work hard on improving in video games and instead, cheating. Good luck surviving in this world with your little brains.
Dark White Well said well said, props to you, and I completely agree with you.
I agree with you on almost everything but one thing. I don't think steve jobs really worked hard. He stole others work alot.
It's not a wonderful thing, but I do agree that it has the _possibility_ to make you better. It _can_ help you understand how people play and you can use that info when you're not cheating to your advantage. I'm not saying to go and cheat, but from my experience, cheating definitely made me a better player in the game.
I cheated a lot in the days of Source, but I've never cheated on GO. I learned a lot about player movements and how people peek corners by watching them through the walls.
I love these, and would enjoy more!
more overwatch please! you make it 10 times better! welcome back
MOAR!
Also, good to have you back, my friend.
I definitely want more of these :) Really interesting to see how you think and also get some understanding if people really are good or cheating.
The warowl is on the Hunt, and I love it! Keep 'em comming, please...
I enjoy your pro match casts the most, but on top of that more Overwatch videos would also be entertaining.
this is a great video! Please do more, this was entertaining :)
WarOwl im enjoying your videos so much
really u've got alot of these cool ideas and overall awesome content
best CS channel out there!!!
Love to see some more overwatch vids because I just got it and want to see how to review suspects so I get more of an idea on how to do it myself.
YOU'RE BACK AND YOUR ENDING SONG FITS IT!!!
I like the whole overwatch video idea. It lets those who don't necessarily know what hacking looks like to see the difference between skill and assistance. It's also satisfying seeing cheaters put down
Awesome video and Epic ending keep em coming!
This is the funniest overwatch I've seen MOAR PLES
Love it! PLease keep on doing this kind of Overwatch!
I like your overwatch videos. I just recently got enough matches, and a high enough rank to start getting overwatchs. But I really like hearing your commentary and perspective on different things that I may instantly view as sketchy or dumb luck as a low Nova player, but don't seem as sketchy for a higher ranked player.
one of the most entertaining videos for a long time!!!
Warowl has the only channel on UA-cam where I don't mind watching the after credits XD
I would love to see this as a new series. Pls do it.
I actually quite enjoyed this .. Good mix of logic and humor.