How a Procedure on Louis XIV’s Bottom Changed Surgery Forever - Palace of Versailles
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In the "Journal of the King's Health on January 15 1686 an entry was made "His majesty today complained of a small tumor..." After much pain snd consternation Louis XIV decided as a last resort to get surgery. The procedure he ended up having changed surgery, the education of surgeons, and the medical profession forever. This is that story.
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Evelyn Edwards is a successful American actress and photographer. She has appeared on such shows as National Geographic’s Hydrogen vs. Hindenburg, Bosch, Criminal Minds, Castle, The Mentalist, Parenthood, The Thundermans, The Kicks, Marry Me, Outsourced, the Academy Award winning film Her, and the film Mimi which reached #1 in multiple countries.
Evelyn began her career in opera. She has performed with some of the opera industry’s leading conductors and singers including: Placido Domingo, Valery Gergiev, Kent Nagano, Eva Marton, Vladimir Chernov, Goesta Winburg, and others.
She has had the privilege of working with such famed directors as Oscar winner Maximilian Schell, Julie Taymor, Gian-Carlo Del Monaco, and Lotfi Mansuri during her tenure with Los Angeles Opera. Ms. Edwards made her professional singing debut at the age of 13, operatic debut at 19, and national television commercial debut at six months.
She holds a Bachelor of Arts Degree and Master of Music degree from UCLA and a Professional Studies Diploma from Mannes College of Music. She and her husband Chris love exploring the world and sharing their passion and love for history, castles and photography together.
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No anesthesia and no sterilizing agents. The fact that he survived is amazing.
The fact that Louis XIV lived as long as he did in general is a medical marvel!
2 months to heal ! Given the tools used that must have been agonizing
Most likely they had sterilized them by flame.
Fistulotomy is a dirty procedure. It is done through the anus and through infected tissue. The surgeon usually scrubs after and not before.
If you were lucky to survive childhood and reach your 18th birthday you could live to a ripe old age.
To this story of medical intervention on the royal posterior of his majesty, there is a simpatico anecdote.
The court was aware of his majesty's health "concerns" (not of all the acts envisaged obviously).
The sisters of a nearby convent therefore created a poem for the king in which they prayed to God to save the king. This poem was very appreciated at the court so much so that the chief musician of the court (Mr. de LULLY) put it forward. music .
During the presentation of this poem set to music was present the ambassador of the court of London in Paris. He appreciated it so much that he decided to buy the text and the music and to benefit the court of London, where they were very appreciated.
So much so that it is, still today, the English national anthem: “GOD save the KING”
How many proud English people do you think know that the sporting victories of English teams are duly celebrated to the sounds of music dating from King Louis XIV of France and a text about a major problem with his royal buttocks? .....
Well this is a theory and it is a little different to how you are telling it. Yes to Lully, yes to celebrate the recovery…the next part is different….Handel copied the music in 1714. But this is absolutely a legend based on the apocryphal Memoirs of the Marquise de Créquy, which were written between 1710 and 1803.💚🙏🏻
I remember getting a haircut in the early 1960s and barbers still squeezed pimples
I remember seeing that in the early '70's.
It was referred to as a "facial'.
Good Lord!!!
A) the tools!
B) a barber!
Thank goodness that barber was smart enough to practice! Too bad for his specimens though.
Super interesting. Thanks 😊
Yes! Barbers were the ones who had the knives! That all changed after this surgery.
Surgery was usually done by barbers then.
@@EvelynEdwards...barber surgeons were common...and the reason for the red and white barber pole
@@EvelynEdwardsbarbers often did surgery because they also had very steady hands as they shaved people with cutthroat razors
@@harpersmythe658 mentioned many times in the comments. The barbers were the ones with the knives. 💚
Wow, I had no idea that the surgeon was lavished with so much after the successful procedure OR that courtiers thought it was fashionable to have surgeries done unnecessarily! Bonkerboats!!!
Yep! Versailles was waaaaaaaacky that way!
Mr. Price Thomas was knighted after operating on George VI.
I can understand the king's gratitude. Anybody would have given everything they had to be relieved of such a condition. But those courtiers were both crazy AND stupid.
One doesn't stop to think about how many people suffered and/or died in order for medical procedures to be learned. I wonder, at that particular time, was there any kind of anesthesia. Or was that invented at a later date. Heading to google that right meow! 😁 Such an interesting post. Thx!! 💯👍
There was laudanum/opium and alcohol. I have another video about medical history and about how cadavers were found and used for dissecting. Fascinating stuff! Head to the SCOTLAND playlist and look for the St. Michael’s church MORTSAFES video.
There is a reprinted old book of accounts from St Bartholomew's Hospital London that has listings of cheap brandy bought for the surgery patients that could not afford to bring their own in with them, as an anaesthetic of sorts.
Just finished watching MIMI a minute ago and seriously i am amazed by your performance in it. lots of respect to you.
💚💚💚🙏🏻 thank you so much 🥰
The good old days.
A barber surgeon. Just the guy I would trust.
😉 they were the ones who had the knives, not physicians. That all changed after this.
Thanks!
Thank YOU Heather!!!! 💚💚💚💚💚
You are welcome. He is one of my favorites kings, along with palaces and town of Versailles. This video was very interesting!
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Extremely interesting I am so happy that he survived. What a poor quality of life that man led.
And lived to a ripe old age! A medical marvel!
Food flying out of his nose, butt surgery and gout. He got dealt quite the hand.
Not my idea of a good time! 😉
Thanks again Evelyn. I found Louis's discomfort amusing. I've been in better health than The Grand Monarch most of my life.
😂😂 amusing huh? It made my stomach hurt. Absolutely horrifying…and to be in so much pain for so long!
I don’t think it’s accidental that the Edict of Nantes was revoked a year before this. Louis would have taken his failing health as a sign of displeasure from God.
I thought the barber would have practiced on corpses....what a horrible thing, to be forced to be practiced on for this. While awake. And for some to have died.... awful!! Maybe that's where the word barbaric really comes from (BARBER...BARBARic).
Barbers had the knives. Physicians didn’t. There were surgeon barbers and barber surgeons. This changed all that! 💚
Dissection of corpses was forbidden at that time.
@@williambowling8211 yes! Video on this on the feed as well.
One of the most famous operations in human history. Felix never operated again. His instruments were donated and can still be seen. Those who were in prison and had fistulas could volunteer to be operated on and would then have their sentences commuted. Not a bad deal. Even today complex fistulas in ano can present serious surgical challenges.
Samuel Pepys had a bladder stone removed at about the same time and to his own surprise, survived the procedure with unsterilised instruments and no anesthetic, of course. And although it left him leaking for the remainder of his life, he held a little anniversary each year "for the cutting of my stone." He lived to his early 70s, extremely old for the day!
Ohhhhh boy! Leaking and still celebrated! Love this story 🙃💀!
With friends like that, who needs an enema?
Well done, I smirked. 😉
I woke up from brain surgery without pain meds for hours because the neurosurgeon had entered the medication into the computer improperly somehow and was busy in another surgery, so couldn't correct it immediately. It was horrendously painful. I was begging them to knock me out again, but they obviously couldn't. I cannot even imagine surgery without anesthesia. How could people even hold still? I was literally writhing in agony at times. Respect to anyone who endured such surgeries like a total champ. They were a lot stronger than I am! 🧠🤕
WWWWWHHHHHHAAAAAATTTTTT?!?!?! That is horrific and I am SO SORRY you had to go through with that!! Lawsuit?!!!
@@EvelynEdwards I'm not sure if lawsuits are even possible for something like that...? I guess the thought never crossed my mind. I needed the same specialist to do spinal cord surgery 6 months after the brain surgery, so I definitely didn't want to make him mad, lol. Other than the pain med fiasco, I was pretty happy with him.
@@luxste ahhhh well then I totally get it. Also lawsuits against hospitals are very very difficult. But yes, you absolutely could have for malpractice. 💚😫
You only get a local for brain surgery. All brain surgery is conducted with the patient fully awake
@@petesmith9472 No it isn't. There are some where the patient remains awake, but certainly not all. I had little electrodes all over my body to test me throughout the procedure, but I certainly wasn't awake.
After having my gallbladder removed, the old fashioned way, I was taken to recovery. They had me hooked up to a pain reliever dispenser machine. All I had to do was push the button for my meds to relieve pain. I was in the worst pain all night. Throwing up on top of that. I kept telling the nurse how much pain I was in only to be told they couldn't give me more than what the machine was dispensing. Next morning when doctor came in I told him. He opened the door where the vile was in the machine. It was full. The machine never gave me any of the medicine. It was an extremely painful event. Stomache cut open with two drainage holes plus throwing up on top of that. I couldn't imagine going through any more than that!
Ohhhhh friend! 😩😩😩😩😩😩 I’m so sorry you went through that!! Horrifying!
I’m so sorry. ❤ I went thru something similar with a hernia surgery.
Wow! That sucks! I would have thrown a bloody fit!
A lot of people who work in hospitals really don't listen to patients. They should have known the morphine would dull any pain you were experiencing and investigated. The opioid epidemic set pain patient rights back 70 years.
This surgery isn't as bad as abdominal, but I was having hammer toe repair and woke up during surgery. I could feel everything, but was unable to speak or move. It was horrible. Then after, the nurse insisted I take two hydrocodone pills. I told her I could only take one, as that's all my system could handle. She forced me to take a second, and I projectile vomited. Told her so. Not sorry.
I woke up during an appendectomy surgery back in 1996 or 97 (can’t quite remember the year… I’m old now) and for about 3 minutes, I was fully conscious, unable to move or make a sound, hearing my surgeon and his team talking about the bike marathon he was going to be taking part in during the upcoming weekend, feeling everything that they were doing in the pursuit of that hot appendix. When the surgeon was working inside my abdomen, I could feel everything he was doing, and it was absolutely excruciating!
I don’t know what it was that the anaesthesiologist noticed - maybe my heart rate spiked or something - because he gave me more of the meds and I clonked out again. Gratefully!
If I hurt that much, with various meds on board to combat the pain, I can’t begin to imagine how much pain the Sun King endured in being fully conscious for anal fistula surgery! He must have been made of some pretty stern stuff!
Ohhhhhh my GOOOOODNESS! Thank everything that the anesthesiologist noticed! 😩😱😱😱😱
@@EvelynEdwards yeah… unfortunately, that experience left me with a pretty bad fear of having to go under the knife ever again. I had to have abdominal surgery again around 15 or so years after that infamous surgical incident, and I was likely the most terrified patient they had come through that month!
@@ChaosMagnet I can imagine! And justifiably so!
I think what you experienced, waking up during surgery happens more than we are aware of.
He was so tough … I can’t imagine the pain even with modern technology, let alone back then. Love your footage as always!!!
The fact that this man lived as long as he did is a medical miracle! Thank you friend!! 💚🏰
"What are we doing today Sire?"......"Oh just a trim Charles, oh, and rectal surgery if you're not busy" Another great episode Evelyn cheers
😂😂😂😂😂😂 exactly how it went down!! How did you know!!?! 😉💚🙏🏻
Ha ha! Great comment!!
@@hazelanderson1479 ha thanks hazel
An interesting bit of medical history. An early form of anesthesia for lower body surgery, amputations etc was the insertion of a cigar in the rectum. The absorption of tobacco chemicals caused loss of sensation in the lower extremities or in some cases death due to tobacco poisoning. Obviously this "butt plug" was not an option in this case.
Regards from South Africa
Not for Louis in this case no! But also a fascinating piece of history! Thank you! 💚💚🏰
I'm just wondering how that form of anesthesia was discovered.
@@nicolasuribestanko Indeed, LOLS
Tobacco enema was used as for a number of procedures. It caused stupor from nicotine poisoning.
The first heart pacemaker was built in a kitchen table by an engineer and a thorax surgeon. Next day it was implanted. The patient survived more than 50 yrs after the procedure, of course he received many other devices along his life.
The history of medicine is fascinating!
It is really almost hysterically funny when you look at the walls and the decor that the king wasn’t looking at any of that at all- as a matter, fact, he didn’t even see it that poor guy! This was one of the most knockout stories I’ve ever heard about history, which I dearly love. Thank you so much Evelyn for sharing this with us.
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Wow 😮, this was so interesting! Poor guy I don't know how he remained silent throughout the surgery. I love your videos and narrating.
Thank you so much Crystal! I would have passed out from the pain! Absolutely no way!
The most painful thing I've had was a steroid injection around one of my discs to put a herniation back in place; the medication pressing against my nerves made it feel as though my legs were on fire, but I had to hold still so I didn't risk spinal injury. The pain literally took my breath away, so I can understand how sometimes it hurts too much to even be able to scream.
My thoughts… this place is gorgeous. OMG WHAT? He had what where and they did what to him? This place is gorgeous!! The tools 😱 No anesthesia 😱 crazy pants!!
Thanks for another interesting video! 😊
Right?! Thank you friend!!
The surgeon said he hadn’t done this operation before, so they fetched 75 people for him to practice on.
Ahh, it’s good to be the king.
Most of whom were prisoners and would get their sentence commuted if they participated. Very good to be king.
@@EvelynEdwardsGetting the sentence commuted would have only helped the ones who survived.
I had a pilonidal cyst “about 2 fingers width from the anus”. Oh my god the pain was horrific. So I feel your pain Louis XIV lol
Ooowwwwiiiieeee!!
Ow ow ow! Every sentence of this story made me hurt.
Medicine today is far from perfect, but it has come a long way since the 1600s.
True story!
'Courtiers began requesting the surgery, whether they had fistulas, or not!' Brilliant closing line! That's called 'dying for fashion'! 🧐🤓😲😁
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It's mind boggling. This is a very painful surgery we are talking about!
@@bob7975 even thinking about it is painful!
That like the Alexandra limp in England. When prices Alexandra hurt her ankle and developed a limp young ladies also started limping to look like her. Some even had their shoes made with different height heels to make sure they kept limping.
Speaking as someone who had two fischula, a couple of years apart, I have sympathy for the King. Painful and rather humiliating.
Ooooowwwwiiiieeee! So so sorry you had to go through that!!
I also had one. Since this required multiple trips to the OR, I said on my last trip, "Ok, show of hands... Who here has NOT seen my ass? Ok, awesome. We've got some newcomers here today. I'd ask the veterans to avoid spoilers. For the new folks, I think you're in for a treat!"
I don't remember much after that. 😂
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I bet a wisewoman/midwife would’ve done a better, less painful job, considering she’d have more experience since fistulas can be caused by childbirth, even today. She might have been able to treat him without any surgery. But oh no, couldn’t have a female doc, that’s “witchcraft!”
Wellllll the reason that a barber was called in was that they were the ones who had the knives. Physicians and midwives didn’t have knives. (You may say REALLY Evelyn). Yes really. So while it would be fun to say it had to do with gender, it actually had to do with the instruments.
@@EvelynEdwards you don’t think the women had knives? You think they bit through umbilical cords with their teeth and did episiotomies and cesareans with spoons?
@@akaLaBrujaRoja I know this is contrary to what you think. But this is pretty well documented in medical history. Also what CENTURY are you talking about here. Because you and I may be discussing very different time periods. When do you think episiotomies first happened? Cutting umbilical chords didn’t require the instruments I am referring to here. 💚🙏🏻
You are confusing fistulae with tears.
Good video , we plan on going to versailles soon
You will LOVE it! Go reeeeeeeeaaaallllly early or reeeeeeeeeeeaally late!
Your photography is spectacular and makes me so lonely for home; Always the time you make such beautiful productions ...Merci beaucoup pour votre beau travail madame;
~ Michèle d'Aubigné 💕
Ohhhh you are too kind! De rein! Merci merci beaucoup! 💚💚💚🙏🏻🏰
He didn't complain because he passed out from the pain.
Possible. But it wasn’t written down that he passed out.
I woke up during an emergency surgery. They were screwing my pelvis back together. It was like waking up when you have to pee. I was told it is the maximum amount of pain a person can have without going into cardiac arrest. It burns your soul it's changed me into a person I don't recognize. It's like I died that night. I've always been afraid to talk about it. I'm afraid doctors will not take a chance because they would be afraid I will sue them. Luie probably had to deal with the gray feeling and put the mask on.
It's been over 10 years and I still hear and see and relive it. I fantasies that maybe I was waking up after the surgery. The problem is I had surgery after that and my experience was clearly different when waking up in the recovery area. I can hear the surgeon moving around and the screws going in whilst they are checking the alignment.
😱😱😱😱😱 this story! Scary. Thank you for sharing!
What an incredible story! That palace is spectacular!❤
Versailles is super spectacular isn’t it? 💚💚🏰
Wouldn't want to be the one dusting all that. Or paying to heat it.
@@wendybutler1681 😉😉
I couldn't finish listening. I was getting woozy. That poor guy.
Gawd - 😱 King or no King, he lived a miserable life in pain
And many different times in his life! True!
That poor man.
The instruments!!! 😱😱😱😱
Horrific!
Not always “good to be King “ …………..
Wellllllllll he was able to get it fixed! Most would not have that ability! So still kinda sorta good to be king. 😉🤷🏼♀️
Poor guy - that would have all been very painful. I wonder how the surgeon gathered 75 people to have a fistula operation ??
Prisoners, people who were forced…etc.
Woke up during back surgery a couple years ago. I remember screaming, the nurse yelling 'shit dont move' and then i was out again thank all the merciful gods. Felt like lightning inside my spine.
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I have NO SYMPATHY for this king. He taxed the common people into starvation to build a huge overblown palace in which he could imprison his country's nobles so they couldn't plot against him. His vileness got him in "the end", so to speak.
It is terrifying there were people in positions of power asking to have this done as an elective surgery “simply because the King had it”!
Followers of fashion indeed! What twits, those artistos!
Loved the tour of Versailles.
One could get the impression that they didn't really like that King very much. 😏
😂😂 they tried really hard at everything the could possibly think of to do before the surgery that’s for sure!!
@@EvelynEdwards , In the most painful ways. 😂
The description of the "treatment" of the tumour/abscess brought back vivid memories of the scene in "Deadwood" where Al Swearengen (Ian McShane) was being given "assistance" by the doctor to pass kidney stones. Just seeing the instruments that would really have been used on someone back then was horrifying.
Good grief. I tightened up during this story.
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Hopefully one day a history channel picks you up as a commentator/historian one day!!
Thank you so so much! So appreciate you!! 💚🏰🙏🏻
Having had some of the same troubles, glad I did not live back then.
Me tooooooo!
How tragic that the medical treatments people received from “doctors” actually made people sicker and hastened their death. No sunlight, no nourishment due to laxatives and purging, and anemia and worse from bloodletting.
Yet women were burned at the stake for practicing homeopathy, which I find has better cured my illnesses than medications.
What the what?!! Amazing video Evelyn!! ⚔️💚🏰
😂😂😉 thanks friend!
Good old medieval times.Aren't you glad you were born in these days ?
This was long past the Middle Ages. Late 1600s early 1700s.
I feel sorry for him. He went through a lot.
Grisly.
They invented some sort of treatment for this condition in the Middle Ages, it was quite a common misfortune for knights who spent long on horseback, especially crusaders.
It was generally poultices and filling the hole with herbs etc.
I've had the fistula operations, 4 over 12 months, it's still quite complicated
Ohhhhh man 4?! Owieeeeeee! You are a trooper!
😮😮 I just can’t imagine.
Meeeeeeeee neither!!!
Don't know how or where you discover these "fun" facts😂😂But I love it😂🎉
Lots and lots of research. 😁😁💚
Oh my gosh, how horrible for the king!
Verrrrrry painful!
I can't imagine wanting surgery with no anesthesia for a problem I didn't even have.
Me neither!
Interesting history. Thank you for sharing.💚🏰
Glad you enjoyed it
I read that King Louis XIV "never bathed." That can't be true, can it?
He bathed very very VERY infrequently. A handful of times in his lifetime it is believed.
I’ve worried about the price of surgery, but now I can just hire my barber to do it for a lot less.
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That was kind of nightmarish!
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Mega ouch.
Damn, Louis must have been made of some true grit. I can’t imagine enduring a 3 hour surgery sans anesthesia without screaming my head off 😱
@@Whyistomatoafruit and he lived to be a ripe old age! An utter miracle!
@@EvelynEdwards crazy!!!!
These comments are brilliant 😂😂
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Sounds a bit like giving birth.
What exactly did the barber do in the perineum surgery?
I’ll let you look that up.
@@EvelynEdwards Hah! Good one.
Taking Fashion craze to the bottom level. 🙃
Hahahaha! Yes! 😂
Couldn’t imagine the pain during all of this.
Absolutely horrific!
Spinal taps are pretty painful as well as spinal infections. Had to have two as the insurance company didn’t believe the first, so I had to have it done again by a different doctor. If I have my choice I’ll never have one again.
Two!!! 😩😱😱😱😱
Ouch , that smarts a bit .
How did he practice on people? Were they willing test subjects?
Many were prisoners who would have their sentence commuted it they were willing to be operated on.
Nobody touches my fistulas!
😂😂😂 boundaries are good!
Thoroughly enjoyed listening to this. So interesting and you brought it all to life.
🥰🥰 so glad you enjoyed! Thank you so much!
Felix said " if it'll please ya, I'll use no anesthesia", and Louis said "I hope the royal probe is unclean".
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Thank God for modern medicine.
Amen!
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People are NUTS
Fascinating, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
lou’s speed bumps
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Was there no form of pain relief then?
There was opium, he didn’t use it. As for your AI comment … do you know that some people
Actually pronounce things differently depending on where they are from. Look me
up.
I wish I had a fistula. 🥺🙁
You really don’t. I promise 😉😉
@@EvelynEdwards Ok. Thank you! 😃
I shouldn't have watched this while eating breakfast.
😂😂😂 sorry about that.