The kid at the school had said the outbreak had been taking place weeks prior and the first episode of Fear the walking dead takes place apparently weeks after the outbreak
You are right Greg. But we don't need to be too anal on "when exactly" it started and I personally believe we probably won't ever get that answer...The point he is making is we get to watch it all go to shit in FTWD. The main series, however, starts over a half a year after the fall. In TS19 Jenner video logs "194 days since wildfire and 64 days since it went global." Was he adding 64 days to 194? Or was that part of the original 194 days he mentioned? I don't know. Either way TS-19 takes place between 6 to 8 months after the zombie pathogen (whatever it was) spun out of control...We can take Jenner's timeline of "wildfire" and put that toward the end of season 1 of FTWD when the soldiers were pulled out and the firebombing of the cities started. And since we have Nick being attacked by his dead girl friend, after she overdoses in the very first episode. Yeah, it was implied things were already in motion.
My best guess is the kid spent a lot of time on the internet, especially looking at conspiracy theories. My best guess is patient zero was quarantined and killed, but the issue is the virus went airborne. Personally I think the show was leaning towards the virus being a airborne pathogen, likely some sort of fungal spore or mold.
The only reason Tobias was getting bits & pieces of the zombies was because it was getting harder and harder for the government to keep up with a cover up and explain it away as a “ flu” 🧐
@@robertstewart1223 It really does not matter when it started because it will always be wrong. What ever this is it's all over the world and everyone is infected so it's not from earth or one of our normal virus that function normally. For me the funniest part about the fear the walking dead was the unreal way people did not have weapons to fight and said military was well retarded which they don't tend to be in our real world. But like most of these shows people have to be lower to a level of a child for the enemy to be able to win.
My favorite quote from the 2004 version of the Dr on Private TV Broadcast and how explained through the Sins of Mankind leading up to the Gates of Hell being Full THE DEAD 😵 will Walk The Earth 🌍
If there is a patient zero, it is definitely from France. From the series, it appears that they were the ones who played with the wildfire virus, and they must have been the ones who came into contact with someone like that. As for the spread, it definitely had to be water and air at the same time, although that doesn't explain why the people on the submarine got infected. On top of that, it must have been asymptomatic for the few months Jenner mentioned, so only later did it take on the characteristics of resurrecting the dead.
I only casually follow this franchise after S1 of TWD and S1 of FTWD. I have heard about the French scientists and there being the origin of the virus that ultimately knee-capped society. But are we ever told how it came to be the way it was? Was it some natural virus they "gain-of-functioned" or some franken virus they made from bits of other virii, or did it start as some extraterrestrial virus fragment that they discovered and started playing with? Were there earlier variants they created which were not so contagious or "zombifying"? Also, it seems that initial exposure by living humans results in either no symptoms, or flu like symptoms which fairly quickly lead to death, and then activation. That would have to be human designed, to make it a more destructive weapon.
@@Agg1E91 Well, I'll try to answer your question. Sorry for the novel. Really, all we got was a scene set in what was essentially the French CDC that Jenner was talking to in S1, a woman breaks in to it in the "modern" era of TWD and finds a now 10 year old recording of Jenner talking to his French equivalent. An armed man comes in, asks her if she was one of the doctors that worked there to which she says yes, apparently he or his group have been hunting her because of that. He asks her if she was part of the "Primrose" team, and she says no instantly, there is no real explanation of it but the assumption is that Primrose was the team that developed wildfire (or at least that is what this Frenchman apparently thinks). He asks her where Primrose is, and (this is the most interesting part to me) she says "They weren't here when you did what you did, they were at a conference in Toledo". This definitely implies that the man's group attacked them somehow to release it (and therefore his group has existed since at least the very start of the fall), but there is no more elaboration. On the wall is spray painted "Les morts sont nes ici" which means the dead were born here, although I never thought that was any kind of proof, it is clearly some relatively new (compared to when wildfire first happened I mean) graffiti so it could just be what someone believed. The Frenchman says that if he finds Primrose they "won't be imprisoned like the others" and he blames "all the teams" for "starting this" and, here's another really interesting thing, the woman had referred to Primrose returning and "stopping this" and he says something like "stop this? you made it worse" and then he blasts her (it almost even looks like he got her in the head too, but it's hard to tell since it happens in a wide shot, which would make this even crazier). Then, we hear Jenner talking about "variant cohorts" that the French doctor has been seeing that he says he never has. The woman reanimates after about 45 seconds, sits up, and IMMEDIATELY turns around and starts pounding on the door without any kind of stimuli to draw her there, and we even see the steel door bending a bit and that is it. Now, I think that means this woman was infected with one of these kinds of variants, and she is infected with it because she was exposed when this man's group had attacked her lab after the apocalypse where the teams were attempting to STOP wildfire, but accidentally created even worse walkers like what she becomes (that's what he meant by making it worse). It's possible that they also created it, but I believe they were trying to stop it at the time of the fall. She is clearly significantly stronger (almost to the point of super strength) and more intelligent (the instant she reanimated she knew where she was and how to get out without following any kind of stimuli) than any other walker we've seen. The only thing that makes this complicated is the Primrose team being in Toledo when "they did what they did", but I think it is very likely that Europe was farther along in the fall than America would have been since it appears that is where it originated, so they could have gotten out for the conference right as Europe was falling but before America acknowledged what was actually happening. Still, I think that scene was about creating a worse variant, not wildfire itself.
She is not the first person to turn in L.A. Everyone is infected so anyone who dies turns. She may have died a couple of minutes before we saw her. 6 homeless people die everyday in L.A. Then there are the natural deaths and murders and car accidents etc. She is not the only person that dies in a city of over 3 million people known for violent crimes. Lets just say she is the first they showed in FotWD
Correct,that’s why the parks and empty spots all of sudden were devoid of the homeless & winos,first ones to fall by the wayside and nobody would notice,pretty sad but true
What drives me crazy is there are still dozens of different questions and loopholes about how wildfire specifically works and is spread. Its even worse when we consider the variants in Daryl Dixon.
@@worldofoz1 so zombie deer disease, it match's just about everything, common fire doesn't kill it and it can spread in water and plants to infect deer and it can take weeks-years for symptoms to show
The virus in this show is a complete mess. Nicks gf wasnt the first zombie in LA, theres evidence of other incidents through out city and the states before gloria.
The modern zombie originates in the film *Night of the Living Dead.* The whole thing began when an energy source from elsewhere began reactivating the brains of the recently deceased. That film had no less than three sequels that omit any reference to the space radiation's mere presence, but keep it so that any deceased brain that remains intact revives.
@@TheNotverysocial Also omitted, they can use rudimentary tools like rock to break the car window and a trowel like the girl in the basement used on her mum!.
@@martinfromlosangeles Which the sequels also do, but with less frequency, and usually to make some kind of explicit, humanising point. I think it makes them much more dangerous than just walking around with their arms stretched out ready to grab whoever is within reach. And it creates a situation where something intangible is the biggest ongoing menace, what with all brains coming alive after death. Leaves room for far more speculation without a concrete answer, and you still have the above hard fact a brain must be destroyed to keep it from coming alive. The problem with a virus, especially one that requires physical contact, let alone more specific kinds is it can be feasibly seen, traced, and will more likely than not be eradicated before too long. And there is no mystique to it in addition to being overdone.
@@TheNotverysocialNonsense … it was ghouls there … and it was exploded stardust from Venus … alien shit. Before Night there were 30-40 Zombie movies already!
I wish they would do a spin off of a group trying to find the cure/the origin of the virus. The part in TWD where they are in the CDC labs and the part where they are trying to get to DC to find a cure were my favorite parts. It gave the show something other then just surviving to look forward to.
ALL people care about is the fall, if they did a old school absolutely zero woke show about different people going through the fall every show starting on day one it’s be a smash hit, could show bit caricatures before the fall, I’d start with Shane from the hospital from his viewpoint to when Rick shows up, show the fall of the CDC, the fall of DC, nobody cares about soap operas
@@KingTay-xg4mi replace the actor with someone that looks similar and is of similar acting talent. Spartacus did it. and even though it is just voice acting, family guy as well
One of the many reasons I lost interest and everything Walking Dead. They kept recycling the survival an enemy plot and never gave any backstory to the origin.
I can distinctly remember the creator himself saying in an interview that he never wanted the series to end. I knew at that point it would turn into slop eventually
I'd guess that the earliest on-screen Walker on the timeline would be whomever the first Walker shown on the Daryl Dixon season 1 episode that showed the early spread of emerging Walkers in France.
In my opinion fear the walking dead could have been saved if they changed characters and location after each season like after season 1 we get a clean slate with totally different characters and the same or different time during the outbreak.
There was no patient zero if everyone has it. Most likely vectors had to be something like food or air for it to spread to everyone. It would also have to have a long incubation period for it to have mutated enough to exist in the human body but have time to spread to everyone. This also leaves out that there HAS to be a handful of immunes. People with specific genetic markers that do not allow it to take hold.
Similar to how the infection in Last of Us happened, there was tainted food and people spread the infection unknowingly in hospitals, eventually becoming airborne with spores, Ellie being the only known immune person
@@RemittentDig17 It's possible. It is something I've thought about a bit. It's an odd virus. You have it, but it doesn't manifest until after clinical death. The bites are easily explained. You're being bit by essentially a dead thing. Sepsis is a mf'er. Anyways, back to it. With it only manifesting after death, it would easily spread through populations like wildfire. That said, there are between 150,000-200,000 deaths a day across the world. There would have been signs as it spread for this reason alone. I do recall the doctor in Fear, when the old guy died next to Nick, saying that they need to "get him downstairs. We still don't know enough..." If medical staff knew before actual breakouts, then those signs are present, they just have no way to stop it. Anyways, I'm just rambling through my thoughts now. lol
I mean, it's airborne and everyone is already infected. It's just when you get bit, you know WHEN and HOW you'll go. Like Captain Trips, it could have escaped from a lab and since it's airborne it got everyone quickly and then slowly mutated so it wasn't instant death once it left the army base. A patient zero would most likely occur if the infection only spread via bites but since it spreads both ways, one being dormant until death, the other, killing the host when bit, many people could have been infected at once and since there's a death every 60 seconds in the US, well you get the idea.
I like this theory alot and its one of my favorite things to think about. Personally as alot of other ppl in the show think it was just evolution. It would have to be a bacteria or a existing illness that could infect alot of people at once or be contracted instantly. My main theory is a evolved version of rabies as its the closest thing we have to zombies. It turned airborne and more aggresive only being weaker in infection strength and thats why people only turn when they die. Yall dont realize how dangerous serious viruses can be if they decide to evolve
I never once thought that Nick's girlfriend was patient zero, I mean since everyone is infected, it would be hard to say who outside of a lab ( say if this was done on purpose or was part of a experiment gone wrong and they had someone who they purposely infected or was accidently infected ) was patient zero, since they would have had to infect everyone practically at the same time worldwide. Because the moment everyone even in a one city anywhere was infected, anyone who died in that city of anything, would comeback as a zombie. So on day one of infecting one city you would have dead people coming back to life in especially hospitals. I mean thinking about it, you know if at least one person in a city, say like Los Angeles will die everyday ( actually a lot more then one ) that person is going to turn, then bite someone, they get sick they die, they comeback. But we are actually talking about a few 100 at least a day, from natural illness, accidents, a shootings, so Nick's girlfriend couldn't have been even Los Angeles patient zero, because there bound to be others who died the same day as she did of other things, I mean realistically. The truth is for everyone to be infected in the world of the Walking Dead, it couldn't even have been an accident, it had to be done on purpose, a terrorist attack of some kind. Unless it is airborne, but even then, it would seem someone would have had to purposely want to infect everyone, otherwise you couldn't have infected everyone! But either way airborne does seem to best possible way they could have infected everyone. Even putting it in the water wouldn't work really, since not everyone in the world uses the same kind of ways of getting water. Some areas of the world people get water direct from a lake, stream, river or they drink well water, while other drink from city treated water and then others only drink bottled water, some even when cooking food. So with all that in mind, it would be hard to infect everyone even through our drinking water. Problem is they came up with this idea that everyone is infected, but never thought about explaining how it all happened, so now it's going to be really hard, if not impossible to explain how it happened, realistically. in fact I doubt they will be able to explain it in a realistic manner, there is a reason why George A Romero never had it where everyone was already infected in his zombie movies, because it's really hard to explain how. Sure his movies never explained how any of it happened exactly, sure something about some radioactive rock from space was mentioned in Night Of The Living Dead, but that's it, nothing else was talked about in any of the movies. But then neither George A Romero or TWD has ever explained how people who are dead are able to moan and growl even when they are dead, which means they are not breathing, you can't make a sound out of your mouth if you aren't breathing. Try it, try moaning while holding your breath, you can't! So realistically, the zombies/walkers aren't really dead exactly, it would have been more realistic if they had the infection be a parasite that infected the brains of everyone, and when you are dying or when you die, this parasite takes over your body so to feed and to wake up other infected peoples parasites. But the reason it can't take you over while your healthy is because your immune system prevents it, it's too strong for the parasite. But when a walker bites you, it infects you with a toxin that attacks your immune system, weakening it, so the parasite in you can take you over, when your near death. But so far no zombie movie or show has come up with a realistic explanation for how dead people can moan. Unless they act like it's something supernatural, which I sure the F hope they don't do that with The Walking Dead, I mean with the whole religious stuff with Daryl Dixon, and some weird stuff they did in one of the spin off shorts, which was meant to be supernatural, I worry sometimes about that.
I'll be honest. I'm intimidated by the size of your comment. I'll just say "I fully agree on *everything you said* " and hope there isn't a "mustache man did nothing wrong" hidden in here.
First off, your English is excellent. 👍 Great vid! I had high hopes for Fear. Watching the world fall would be incredible... and then they hid in a barber shop and it was finished. Should have changed the cast every season and followed a new group through the last days of civilization. Could have alot of cameos, hints, mysteries and organic crossovers. Oh well!
FTWD had so much potential, the first szn was amazing but then after that it just fell off. TWD was amazing bc it showed how everyone was in the beginning being scared and confused then later on the survivors became more confident, adapting to the new world as the walkers were just a nuisance now and it was the other surviving ppl that were dangerous and FTWD failed at what it was initially supposed to be about imo, even I did still watch it but only bc of Alycia Debnam-Carey As for Gloria, I'm not so sure she was patient zero bc Tobias was already freaked out by watching videos from other states of ppl infected and I thought patient zero was supposed to be the very first person to contract whatever disease that causes a pandemic.
Perhaps they need a movie "The walking dead, patient 0". The movie could show the lab the virus was created in, how Military's, French, US, UK etc... planned to use it as a potential weapon but something happens with an outbreak at the facility and by movies end, the zombies escape the quarantined facility. Another explanation can be given that the zombies or first few generations of them become vectors of air transmission, not that the virus will take every one infected, some still have to die to become zombies but thats a loose possible story they could use for a say movie, made to explain the origins of the virus in depth.
Thinking on this, it could even be a virus or genetic work that worked perfectly fine on the first uses. But someone sabotage it or decide to cut some health safety and create a degenerative variant, causing mutation and the actual virus. Turning it from a cure or enhancement drug to a degenerative disease.
For the record, your English is awesome! I mean, sure you have an accent but so does everyone. Honestly, had you not mentioned it I’d have had no clue you weren’t absolutely fluent.
It was funny because like you said, so many TWD fans watched FtWD to see how it all started but it glossed over this part so quickly that many of us were turned off by it.
I love the Andromeda Strain reference in using the name “Wildfire” for the zombie virus, since in the Andromeda Strain (1971) film , Wildfire is the name of the secret underground laboratory. There was also in Fear the Walking Dead a reference to the Strand with the yacht “Mother Abigail”
Fear of the Walking Dead was a scam show, they advertised that it would explain the origin, but we find out that the outbreak has already happened and has been going on for a while.
I think showing the drug as the origin was supposed to be a huge easter egg reference to the fan theory that TWD and Breaking Bad were in the same universe
There’s a bonus scene after the end of season 2 of World Beyond. There was a french scientist who was reviewing Dr Jenner’s research about different variants. And if you paid attention, there was white writing in french on the walls that hinted or indicated that the outbreak began in france.
Ok Jenner says, “It's been 194 days since Wildfire was declared, and 63 days since the disease abruptly went global." That leaves 131 days that the CDC apparently knew about the disease before it became an epidemic.” Most likely the virus had evolved, it would most likely been in France which most likely would explain that they weaponized it this could cause the virus to spread rapidly or they were the ones who made it airborne. The virus could have not been and given that they were testing on it this would explain that. This also would make Gloria still patient zero as she is the first true breed of the airborne virus, Wildfire.
Amei o video, me inscrevi e me peguei pensando: minha obsessão por TWD me levou a eu ver um video em ingles sobre um br falando em ingles sobre TWD Perfeição, esperando os próximos videos
Like the autophage in Dead Island... a clock in our DNA, slowly ticking toward zero and as soon, as it hit´s zero, everyone turns... or in this case, everyone turns upon death
Great video i appreciate the explanation on how the spin off shows are connecting more, and even explaining stuff i did not notice while watching the show
You definitely have a foreign accent but your English is great my friend. Sure wish I could speak a second language as well as yourself. Awesome videos!
3:26 "waking up from an overdose he had later" It took me a while to make sense of this, but yes, Nick did overdose later in the show. In the first episode, however, he did not overdose. He woke up from a drug-induced slumber. That's it
My theory is this: American weapons manufacturers, defense contractors, were working with the French to develop a biological weapon. They were experimenting with prions. Prions are indestructible through ordinary means (such as autoclaving). The laboratory glassware, Petri dishes, test tubes, needles et cetera, were scheduled to be sent to the United states to be permanently stored underground at New Mexico's WIPP (Waste Isolation Pilot Project), which is a repository in the geologically stable desert for storage of nuclear waste. HOWEVER, the shipment of glass and latex and other materials was stolen by criminals who thought they could re-sell the laboratory equipment to drub manufacturers. THIS is where the universe merges with and crosses Breaking Bad! The criminals who stole the infected glassware did NOT know it was infected. In handling the materials they were infected. The stolen labware was purchased by Gus Fring in order to construct the drug lab for Walter White. In using the glassware and equipment, Walter White inadvertently contaminated the entire batch of blue crystal meth. Each subsequent batch also contained prionic contaminations and since the meth was distributed world wide... people who took the meth were infected, but since they did not die... they spread the infection through urine and feces into the civic water systems! While regular sewage is filtered out and decontaminated with chemicals... prions are immune to such methods. So everyone who drank water, or ate food prepared with that water (as in frozen foods etc.) AND the water was drunk by factory farmed animals, such as chickens and pigs. Thus, the prions entered the food stream as well as the water. This link is possible confirmed by the sight of the crystal blue meth in Merle Dixon's drug stash that Daryl brought out of the motorcycle's luggage bags.
It's too bad how insanely mid the spinoffs became, they lost the basic grounding to the characters and world, and let it turn into this contrived clusterfuck. Hopefully they give the rights to the series back to Kirkman so he can do an animated series.
Don’t worry about your English! I always love when I hear creators with different accents!! I’m an Ameri-mutt from the southeast, I want to create videos but I sound like grits when I talk lol
I have one question. What made everyone infected? We already know everyone is infected, but no one knows how! How did it start? What caused it to start? Is it bacterial, fungal spores? Like how ants become "zombies" from that one specific fungal spore.
Oh yes, I am obsessed with TWDU; but Fear was very much shot like a B Class SciFi channel movie. It didnt get good for me until Madison fake died. I know, there are a lot of Madison fans, idc. Opinions are like a**holes right.
Do you count patient zero as the furst person to contract the virus or the first person to come back from the dead? You could make a case either way, but they aren't necessarily the same person.
She's not zero.... there's a mini web series about the plane that flies over after Nic runs from the church... in that plane is a man who was bit and contaminates the rest of passengers... The male teen and Asian woman who get out of the crash alive are the people who get towed behind by Madison when Madison's group is escaping on the boat.. My point, as that plane is taking off, the male teen is watching lights going out all over the city... the virus was already raging when Nic finds his girlfriend chewing on another guy..
Given the typical rate of infection someone would have died and turned before everyone was infected. So the original virus would have to be one that would always eventually mutate into one that did. So I'm assuming an original "harmless" wildfire virus and then the amped up one that French lab set loose.
Correct,the CDC appears to have been lying by omission and simply peddling it off as the “ flu” that was done in order to insure they were safe while the population at large was thrown to the dogs
I think they should say less until all the creatives get together and plan out a lore Bible. The reason they say things inconsistent is because they haven't effectively planned it out. This isn't a real world they are uncovering. It's just a story and I honestly think they shouldn't try and write in a patient 0 or how it spreads. You don't need it, every time they do that, it just ruins it.
We saw her parents at the hospital/drug clinic. They were the rich couple waiting for her, when Nicks mom showed up. Weren't they? I'll have to go back and find it. She was a rich girl with what seemed like everything going for her and that's how her life ended. Addicted, in a drug hovel, infected and eating a dead body. After killing it? Yeah, it couldn't be just one person or else it would have been isolated to her and not the world. Definitely a govt experiment gone wrong lol that's my guess.
I wish it was more clear like in resident evil 2 video game when g infected birkham stepped on the t virus samples and it got in the water supply . That’s how that zombie virus spread
I too have learned that it started in France, but to be honest, the more detail they try to give, the more flawed and disappointing it becomes. I think it's best to keep the audience guessing. Unless of course, they're saying none of this is real. What do I do with all this toilet roll??????
Some people have a talent for using lots of words and not actually saying anything at all.
I was just thinking that. Stopped watching after 5 min.
Hes gotta stretch it to 10 mins lol
some people have a talent of writing an entire show and making millions while writing nothing of substance
Patient Zero is never discussed in detail; guy explains what we already know. Saved you 10 minutes of your life.
Thank you
also thank you buds
The kid at the school had said the outbreak had been taking place weeks prior and the first episode of Fear the walking dead takes place apparently weeks after the outbreak
You are right Greg. But we don't need to be too anal on "when exactly" it started and I personally believe we probably won't ever get that answer...The point he is making is we get to watch it all go to shit in FTWD. The main series, however, starts over a half a year after the fall. In TS19 Jenner video logs "194 days since wildfire and 64 days since it went global." Was he adding 64 days to 194? Or was that part of the original 194 days he mentioned? I don't know. Either way TS-19 takes place between 6 to 8 months after the zombie pathogen (whatever it was) spun out of control...We can take Jenner's timeline of "wildfire" and put that toward the end of season 1 of FTWD when the soldiers were pulled out and the firebombing of the cities started. And since we have Nick being attacked by his dead girl friend, after she overdoses in the very first episode. Yeah, it was implied things were already in motion.
My best guess is the kid spent a lot of time on the internet, especially looking at conspiracy theories. My best guess is patient zero was quarantined and killed, but the issue is the virus went airborne.
Personally I think the show was leaning towards the virus being a airborne pathogen, likely some sort of fungal spore or mold.
Correct! She couldn't be patient zero. Didn't that kid already see one?
The only reason Tobias was getting bits & pieces of the zombies was because it was getting harder and harder for the government to keep up with a cover up and explain it away as a “ flu” 🧐
@@robertstewart1223 It really does not matter when it started because it will always be wrong. What ever this is it's all over the world and everyone is infected so it's not from earth or one of our normal virus that function normally. For me the funniest part about the fear the walking dead was the unreal way people did not have weapons to fight and said military was well retarded which they don't tend to be in our real world. But like most of these shows people have to be lower to a level of a child for the enemy to be able to win.
The zombie infection will be explained simply " When hell is full, the Dead will walk". RIP George Romero.
"when there is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth"
Yeah thats what I always thought. With everyone being infected already. Seems more religious then biological.
Nonsense … those were officially ghouls not zombies! And it was stardust from Venus! Means aliens! There were dozens of movies before his night!
George Romero’s script for the prequel to Night Of The Living Dead is supposedly being completed by his son
My favorite quote from the 2004 version of the Dr on Private TV Broadcast and how explained through the Sins of Mankind leading up to the Gates of Hell being Full THE DEAD 😵 will Walk The Earth 🌍
If there is a patient zero, it is definitely from France.
From the series, it appears that they were the ones who played with the wildfire virus, and they must have been the ones who came into contact with someone like that.
As for the spread, it definitely had to be water and air at the same time, although that doesn't explain why the people on the submarine got infected.
On top of that, it must have been asymptomatic for the few months Jenner mentioned, so only later did it take on the characteristics of resurrecting the dead.
I only casually follow this franchise after S1 of TWD and S1 of FTWD.
I have heard about the French scientists and there being the origin of the virus that ultimately knee-capped society. But are we ever told how it came to be the way it was? Was it some natural virus they "gain-of-functioned" or some franken virus they made from bits of other virii, or did it start as some extraterrestrial virus fragment that they discovered and started playing with? Were there earlier variants they created which were not so contagious or "zombifying"?
Also, it seems that initial exposure by living humans results in either no symptoms, or flu like symptoms which fairly quickly lead to death, and then activation. That would have to be human designed, to make it a more destructive weapon.
@@Agg1E91 Well, I'll try to answer your question. Sorry for the novel.
Really, all we got was a scene set in what was essentially the French CDC that Jenner was talking to in S1, a woman breaks in to it in the "modern" era of TWD and finds a now 10 year old recording of Jenner talking to his French equivalent. An armed man comes in, asks her if she was one of the doctors that worked there to which she says yes, apparently he or his group have been hunting her because of that. He asks her if she was part of the "Primrose" team, and she says no instantly, there is no real explanation of it but the assumption is that Primrose was the team that developed wildfire (or at least that is what this Frenchman apparently thinks). He asks her where Primrose is, and (this is the most interesting part to me) she says "They weren't here when you did what you did, they were at a conference in Toledo". This definitely implies that the man's group attacked them somehow to release it (and therefore his group has existed since at least the very start of the fall), but there is no more elaboration. On the wall is spray painted "Les morts sont nes ici" which means the dead were born here, although I never thought that was any kind of proof, it is clearly some relatively new (compared to when wildfire first happened I mean) graffiti so it could just be what someone believed. The Frenchman says that if he finds Primrose they "won't be imprisoned like the others" and he blames "all the teams" for "starting this" and, here's another really interesting thing, the woman had referred to Primrose returning and "stopping this" and he says something like "stop this? you made it worse" and then he blasts her (it almost even looks like he got her in the head too, but it's hard to tell since it happens in a wide shot, which would make this even crazier). Then, we hear Jenner talking about "variant cohorts" that the French doctor has been seeing that he says he never has. The woman reanimates after about 45 seconds, sits up, and IMMEDIATELY turns around and starts pounding on the door without any kind of stimuli to draw her there, and we even see the steel door bending a bit and that is it.
Now, I think that means this woman was infected with one of these kinds of variants, and she is infected with it because she was exposed when this man's group had attacked her lab after the apocalypse where the teams were attempting to STOP wildfire, but accidentally created even worse walkers like what she becomes (that's what he meant by making it worse). It's possible that they also created it, but I believe they were trying to stop it at the time of the fall. She is clearly significantly stronger (almost to the point of super strength) and more intelligent (the instant she reanimated she knew where she was and how to get out without following any kind of stimuli) than any other walker we've seen. The only thing that makes this complicated is the Primrose team being in Toledo when "they did what they did", but I think it is very likely that Europe was farther along in the fall than America would have been since it appears that is where it originated, so they could have gotten out for the conference right as Europe was falling but before America acknowledged what was actually happening.
Still, I think that scene was about creating a worse variant, not wildfire itself.
@@Agg1E91 in the comics the virus was from space from what i have heard
Nonsense … they said who patient zero was … nothing to do with France!
@@GanymedeXD The who is patient zero ?
She is not the first person to turn in L.A. Everyone is infected so anyone who dies turns. She may have died a couple of minutes before we saw her. 6 homeless people die everyday in L.A. Then there are the natural deaths and murders and car accidents etc. She is not the only person that dies in a city of over 3 million people known for violent crimes. Lets just say she is the first they showed in FotWD
Well, showrunner Dave Erickson confirmed that Gloria is "Patient Zero" of the Trials in the entire TV universe.
Maybe it was just a particularly good day and she happened to die first.
the show runner is wrong. There's reports of this before Gloria od's!
Correct,that’s why the parks and empty spots all of sudden were devoid of the homeless & winos,first ones to fall by the wayside and nobody would notice,pretty sad but true
What drives me crazy is there are still dozens of different questions and loopholes about how wildfire specifically works and is spread. Its even worse when we consider the variants in Daryl Dixon.
Airborne pathogen…….
@@GuyIncognito-mw8mr Airborne or it is in the water.
@@worldofoz1 so zombie deer disease, it match's just about everything, common fire doesn't kill it and it can spread in water and plants to infect deer and it can take weeks-years for symptoms to show
The virus in this show is a complete mess. Nicks gf wasnt the first zombie in LA, theres evidence of other incidents through out city and the states before gloria.
The modern zombie originates in the film *Night of the Living Dead.* The whole thing began when an energy source from elsewhere began reactivating the brains of the recently deceased. That film had no less than three sequels that omit any reference to the space radiation's mere presence, but keep it so that any deceased brain that remains intact revives.
@@TheNotverysocial Thank you, a true fan!
@@TheNotverysocial Also omitted, they can use rudimentary tools like rock to break the car window and a trowel like the girl in the basement used on her mum!.
@@martinfromlosangeles Which the sequels also do, but with less frequency, and usually to make some kind of explicit, humanising point.
I think it makes them much more dangerous than just walking around with their arms stretched out ready to grab whoever is within reach.
And it creates a situation where something intangible is the biggest ongoing menace, what with all brains coming alive after death. Leaves room for far more speculation without a concrete answer, and you still have the above hard fact a brain must be destroyed to keep it from coming alive.
The problem with a virus, especially one that requires physical contact, let alone more specific kinds is it can be feasibly seen, traced, and will more likely than not be eradicated before too long. And there is no mystique to it in addition to being overdone.
@@TheNotverysocialNonsense … it was ghouls there … and it was exploded stardust from Venus … alien shit. Before Night there were 30-40 Zombie movies already!
It's still not really explained, there, saved you 10 minutes
Thank you lol
You did save me 10 minutes
Bro, you're saying sorry for bad English, but you speak it better than most Americans who's one and only language is English
Literally.
I'm a Brit & he speaks better English than a lot of my friends & acquaintances.... 😂
20% of Americans are bilingual
@@johnnycovenant2286hence why he said “most”
AmericaBad
I wish they would do a spin off of a group trying to find the cure/the origin of the virus. The part in TWD where they are in the CDC labs and the part where they are trying to get to DC to find a cure were my favorite parts.
It gave the show something other then just surviving to look forward to.
I would love a spin off but on a navy ship or soldiers overseas trying to get home.
ALL people care about is the fall, if they did a old school absolutely zero woke show about different people going through the fall every show starting on day one it’s be a smash hit, could show bit caricatures before the fall, I’d start with Shane from the hospital from his viewpoint to when Rick shows up, show the fall of the CDC, the fall of DC, nobody cares about soap operas
I wish theid do a spinoff in france starring neil deGrasse tyson
Yes! I would love that too!
@@martinfromlosangeleslike the “last ship”?
Fear the Walking Dead ruined the show when they killed Nick.
Ikr! Nick and Morgan together were just the best together! I think it would have remained a decent show if they kept Nick alive.
Killing Nick was a bad move.
Facts
Well when the actor wants to leave what are you pose to do
@@KingTay-xg4mi replace the actor with someone that looks similar and is of similar acting talent. Spartacus did it. and even though it is just voice acting, family guy as well
One of the many reasons I lost interest and everything Walking Dead. They kept recycling the survival an enemy plot and never gave any backstory to the origin.
You know it’s hard seeing kids as walkers and see characters we grow to love turn into walkers
Keep in mind the two kids at the airport in Dawn Of The Dead 🧐
I like the idea of this video and love your channel! This video there was just so repetitive. Keep on dude!
this is what happens when studios squeeze an IP for all they can get out of it long after its creator has walked away.
I can distinctly remember the creator himself saying in an interview that he never wanted the series to end. I knew at that point it would turn into slop eventually
Robert Kirkman is still involved in the latest shows so what are you even saying lol he’s an executive producer on the Daryl Dixon series
I think the showrunner changing after season 3 was what started it being shit it was better than twd for those first seasons
I'd guess that the earliest on-screen Walker on the timeline would be whomever the first Walker shown on the Daryl Dixon season 1 episode that showed the early spread of emerging Walkers in France.
underrated channel bro. your deep dives have been exactly what the people have been needing during this walking dead drought. keep it up! 👍
Thank you for the support!
In my opinion fear the walking dead could have been saved if they changed characters and location after each season like after season 1 we get a clean slate with totally different characters and the same or different time during the outbreak.
The first on screen person to turn before Monument Day: Gloria.
The last on screen person to turn after Monument Day: Major General Beale.
0:39 right outta the gate wrong. They’re the first person to be documented. They are not even the first one who changed to zombie…
There was no patient zero if everyone has it. Most likely vectors had to be something like food or air for it to spread to everyone. It would also have to have a long incubation period for it to have mutated enough to exist in the human body but have time to spread to everyone. This also leaves out that there HAS to be a handful of immunes. People with specific genetic markers that do not allow it to take hold.
Correct,like in world war z,the infection sought out only the healthy and not the sick
Similar to how the infection in Last of Us happened, there was tainted food and people spread the infection unknowingly in hospitals, eventually becoming airborne with spores, Ellie being the only known immune person
@@RemittentDig17 It's possible. It is something I've thought about a bit. It's an odd virus. You have it, but it doesn't manifest until after clinical death. The bites are easily explained. You're being bit by essentially a dead thing. Sepsis is a mf'er. Anyways, back to it. With it only manifesting after death, it would easily spread through populations like wildfire. That said, there are between 150,000-200,000 deaths a day across the world. There would have been signs as it spread for this reason alone. I do recall the doctor in Fear, when the old guy died next to Nick, saying that they need to "get him downstairs. We still don't know enough..." If medical staff knew before actual breakouts, then those signs are present, they just have no way to stop it. Anyways, I'm just rambling through my thoughts now. lol
Bro speaks English fluently. Having an accent is a flex, shows u speak more than one language which is more than most
I mean wouldn’t call it fluent. Americans are behind being monolingual. But it’s not fluent English, a good attempt.
@@iudexslade7855 my brother in Christ did you not watch the whole video? He didn’t fuck up a single word
@@iudexslade7855 and even if he did fuck up a word or two I know lots of English mainly speakers fucking their words up all the time
@@shmatet it was the “focus on Maddison son nick addicted to chemicals, DRUGS.” It’s the sentence structure needs work. Not hating but not fluent lol.
Having an accent has nothing to do with speaking multiple languages
ah yes, Schrodinger's patient zero...
In La we play Schrodinger's homeless person in a tent.
So i guess she just died and became a zombie if thats what people are saying very anti climatic 5:25 (im not saying shes patient zero)
She overdosed on heroin, and was reanimated thereafter
I mean, it's airborne and everyone is already infected. It's just when you get bit, you know WHEN and HOW you'll go. Like Captain Trips, it could have escaped from a lab and since it's airborne it got everyone quickly and then slowly mutated so it wasn't instant death once it left the army base.
A patient zero would most likely occur if the infection only spread via bites but since it spreads both ways, one being dormant until death, the other, killing the host when bit, many people could have been infected at once and since there's a death every 60 seconds in the US, well you get the idea.
Correct way of thinking it through 👍
I like this theory alot and its one of my favorite things to think about. Personally as alot of other ppl in the show think it was just evolution. It would have to be a bacteria or a existing illness that could infect alot of people at once or be contracted instantly. My main theory is a evolved version of rabies as its the closest thing we have to zombies. It turned airborne and more aggresive only being weaker in infection strength and thats why people only turn when they die. Yall dont realize how dangerous serious viruses can be if they decide to evolve
I never once thought that Nick's girlfriend was patient zero, I mean since everyone is infected, it would be hard to say who outside of a lab ( say if this was done on purpose or was part of a experiment gone wrong and they had someone who they purposely infected or was accidently infected ) was patient zero, since they would have had to infect everyone practically at the same time worldwide. Because the moment everyone even in a one city anywhere was infected, anyone who died in that city of anything, would comeback as a zombie. So on day one of infecting one city you would have dead people coming back to life in especially hospitals.
I mean thinking about it, you know if at least one person in a city, say like Los Angeles will die everyday ( actually a lot more then one ) that person is going to turn, then bite someone, they get sick they die, they comeback. But we are actually talking about a few 100 at least a day, from natural illness, accidents, a shootings, so Nick's girlfriend couldn't have been even Los Angeles patient zero, because there bound to be others who died the same day as she did of other things, I mean realistically.
The truth is for everyone to be infected in the world of the Walking Dead, it couldn't even have been an accident, it had to be done on purpose, a terrorist attack of some kind. Unless it is airborne, but even then, it would seem someone would have had to purposely want to infect everyone, otherwise you couldn't have infected everyone! But either way airborne does seem to best possible way they could have infected everyone. Even putting it in the water wouldn't work really, since not everyone in the world uses the same kind of ways of getting water. Some areas of the world people get water direct from a lake, stream, river or they drink well water, while other drink from city treated water and then others only drink bottled water, some even when cooking food. So with all that in mind, it would be hard to infect everyone even through our drinking water.
Problem is they came up with this idea that everyone is infected, but never thought about explaining how it all happened, so now it's going to be really hard, if not impossible to explain how it happened, realistically. in fact I doubt they will be able to explain it in a realistic manner, there is a reason why George A Romero never had it where everyone was already infected in his zombie movies, because it's really hard to explain how. Sure his movies never explained how any of it happened exactly, sure something about some radioactive rock from space was mentioned in Night Of The Living Dead, but that's it, nothing else was talked about in any of the movies.
But then neither George A Romero or TWD has ever explained how people who are dead are able to moan and growl even when they are dead, which means they are not breathing, you can't make a sound out of your mouth if you aren't breathing. Try it, try moaning while holding your breath, you can't! So realistically, the zombies/walkers aren't really dead exactly, it would have been more realistic if they had the infection be a parasite that infected the brains of everyone, and when you are dying or when you die, this parasite takes over your body so to feed and to wake up other infected peoples parasites. But the reason it can't take you over while your healthy is because your immune system prevents it, it's too strong for the parasite. But when a walker bites you, it infects you with a toxin that attacks your immune system, weakening it, so the parasite in you can take you over, when your near death.
But so far no zombie movie or show has come up with a realistic explanation for how dead people can moan. Unless they act like it's something supernatural, which I sure the F hope they don't do that with The Walking Dead, I mean with the whole religious stuff with Daryl Dixon, and some weird stuff they did in one of the spin off shorts, which was meant to be supernatural, I worry sometimes about that.
I'll be honest. I'm intimidated by the size of your comment. I'll just say "I fully agree on *everything you said* " and hope there isn't a "mustache man did nothing wrong" hidden in here.
First off, your English is excellent. 👍 Great vid!
I had high hopes for Fear. Watching the world fall would be incredible... and then they hid in a barber shop and it was finished.
Should have changed the cast every season and followed a new group through the last days of civilization. Could have alot of cameos, hints, mysteries and organic crossovers. Oh well!
the show was dead once they left LA.
what if rick died from that gunshot at start
It was all an afterlife.
Your English is incredible, keep at it bro
FTWD had so much potential, the first szn was amazing but then after that it just fell off. TWD was amazing bc it showed how everyone was in the beginning being scared and confused then later on the survivors became more confident, adapting to the new world as the walkers were just a nuisance now and it was the other surviving ppl that were dangerous and FTWD failed at what it was initially supposed to be about imo, even I did still watch it but only bc of Alycia Debnam-Carey
As for Gloria, I'm not so sure she was patient zero bc Tobias was already freaked out by watching videos from other states of ppl infected and I thought patient zero was supposed to be the very first person to contract whatever disease that causes a pandemic.
The first Season was complete bullshit … boring like hell … Season 2 better … Season 3 is pretty good …
Perhaps they need a movie "The walking dead, patient 0". The movie could show the lab the virus was created in, how Military's, French, US, UK etc... planned to use it as a potential weapon but something happens with an outbreak at the facility and by movies end, the zombies escape the quarantined facility. Another explanation can be given that the zombies or first few generations of them become vectors of air transmission, not that the virus will take every one infected, some still have to die to become zombies but thats a loose possible story they could use for a say movie, made to explain the origins of the virus in depth.
Well … Daryl & Carol roam Europe in the spin off … maybe there they must share something, but France they left!
Thinking on this, it could even be a virus or genetic work that worked perfectly fine on the first uses. But someone sabotage it or decide to cut some health safety and create a degenerative variant, causing mutation and the actual virus. Turning it from a cure or enhancement drug to a degenerative disease.
So basically some dude with an accent talking in circles for 10min. Very helpful.
For the record, your English is awesome! I mean, sure you have an accent but so does everyone. Honestly, had you not mentioned it I’d have had no clue you weren’t absolutely fluent.
It was funny because like you said, so many TWD fans watched FtWD to see how it all started but it glossed over this part so quickly that many of us were turned off by it.
I love the Andromeda Strain reference in using the name “Wildfire” for the zombie virus, since in the Andromeda Strain (1971) film , Wildfire is the name of the secret underground laboratory. There was also in Fear the Walking Dead a reference to the Strand with the yacht “Mother Abigail”
Fear of the Walking Dead was a scam show, they advertised that it would explain the origin, but we find out that the outbreak has already happened and has been going on for a while.
Well, they were exploring the beginning, but people complained it was going too slow, so by season 2, it was full blown TWD. lmao
I think showing the drug as the origin was supposed to be a huge easter egg reference to the fan theory that TWD and Breaking Bad were in the same universe
Not exactly a drug but a pharmaceutical that mutated existing human cells snd muted turn and tyen it became airborne
Bro your English is good and making these videos to get practice is really cool and great practice
There’s a bonus scene after the end of season 2 of World Beyond. There was a french scientist who was reviewing Dr Jenner’s research about different variants. And if you paid attention, there was white writing in french on the walls that hinted or indicated that the outbreak began in france.
nick... god i missed him. too bad he want to leave the show 😢
Ok Jenner says, “It's been 194 days since Wildfire was declared, and 63 days since the disease abruptly went global." That leaves 131 days that the CDC apparently knew about the disease before it became an epidemic.”
Most likely the virus had evolved, it would most likely been in France which most likely would explain that they weaponized it this could cause the virus to spread rapidly or they were the ones who made it airborne. The virus could have not been and given that they were testing on it this would explain that. This also would make Gloria still patient zero as she is the first true breed of the airborne virus, Wildfire.
Amei o video, me inscrevi e me peguei pensando: minha obsessão por TWD me levou a eu ver um video em ingles sobre um br falando em ingles sobre TWD
Perfeição, esperando os próximos videos
It would be so heartbreaking to found out that patient zero was a sick child.
More than likely a lab worker that got cut or didn’t have properly fitted breathing apparatus
Like the autophage in Dead Island... a clock in our DNA, slowly ticking toward zero and as soon, as it hit´s zero, everyone turns... or in this case, everyone turns upon death
We have a gazillion twd spinoffs and none answer this question.
Great video i appreciate the explanation on how the spin off shows are connecting more, and even explaining stuff i did not notice while watching the show
Sotaque brasileiro em inglês me dá uma agonia dananda
You definitely have a foreign accent but your English is great my friend. Sure wish I could speak a second language as well as yourself. Awesome videos!
you understand this show have no sense from the moment you see that anyone that dies transform into a zombie .
your english sounds great, i actually love the accent
Thank you!
I miss Talking Dead. 😢 My theory is rain water contamination causing drinking & bathing water to carry the disease.
Come on go straight on point....
3:26 "waking up from an overdose he had later"
It took me a while to make sense of this, but yes, Nick did overdose later in the show. In the first episode, however, he did not overdose. He woke up from a drug-induced slumber. That's it
Most if not all zombie movies and/or shows NEVER tell you how the whole damn thing started, and that's why I hate all zombie movies! It frustrating!!!
The comic author confirmed how it started.
My theory is this: American weapons manufacturers, defense contractors, were working with the French to develop a biological weapon. They were experimenting with prions. Prions are indestructible through ordinary means (such as autoclaving). The laboratory glassware, Petri dishes, test tubes, needles et cetera, were scheduled to be sent to the United states to be permanently stored underground at New Mexico's WIPP (Waste Isolation Pilot Project), which is a repository in the geologically stable desert for storage of nuclear waste.
HOWEVER, the shipment of glass and latex and other materials was stolen by criminals who thought they could re-sell the laboratory equipment to drub manufacturers. THIS is where the universe merges with and crosses Breaking Bad! The criminals who stole the infected glassware did NOT know it was infected. In handling the materials they were infected. The stolen labware was purchased by Gus Fring in order to construct the drug lab for Walter White.
In using the glassware and equipment, Walter White inadvertently contaminated the entire batch of blue crystal meth. Each subsequent batch also contained prionic contaminations and since the meth was distributed world wide... people who took the meth were infected, but since they did not die... they spread the infection through urine and feces into the civic water systems! While regular sewage is filtered out and decontaminated with chemicals... prions are immune to such methods. So everyone who drank water, or ate food prepared with that water (as in frozen foods etc.) AND the water was drunk by factory farmed animals, such as chickens and pigs. Thus, the prions entered the food stream as well as the water. This link is possible confirmed by the sight of the crystal blue meth in Merle Dixon's drug stash that Daryl brought out of the motorcycle's luggage bags.
Sounds good to me. I always wondered about the blue meth and Breaking Bad in the same world as the Walking Dead Universe.
As long as the series lasted, I don’t think any other episodes was as good as the first one.
Tobias stated in was in other states can't be control which implies she wasn't patent zero
Correct Tobias said it was moving west from the east coast
It's too bad how insanely mid the spinoffs became, they lost the basic grounding to the characters and world, and let it turn into this contrived clusterfuck.
Hopefully they give the rights to the series back to Kirkman so he can do an animated series.
one of the ideias, was the infection was a non disered effect from a flu vacination
Don’t worry about your English! I always love when I hear creators with different accents!! I’m an Ameri-mutt from the southeast, I want to create videos but I sound like grits when I talk lol
I love your videos man I miss the face cam hopefully its brought back
majority would want to know who got it first in a fiction movie more than who got covid first xD
I think that it would've been cool if the whole thing was a botched alien invasion.
I have one question. What made everyone infected? We already know everyone is infected, but no one knows how! How did it start? What caused it to start? Is it bacterial, fungal spores? Like how ants become "zombies" from that one specific fungal spore.
Really? In the hospital there was an elderly man who flatlined,not bitten or infected but there for some other under issues for people his age …..
Are you brasilian?
Oh yes, I am obsessed with TWDU; but Fear was very much shot like a B Class SciFi channel movie. It didnt get good for me until Madison fake died. I know, there are a lot of Madison fans, idc. Opinions are like a**holes right.
Patient Zero is the Night King and his army of dead are all people who got killed by Wildfire- oh wait. Wrong show.
Space dust
Space junk
Well, you speak better english than most of our newcomers and better than all of our government employees.
😂😂😂😂 He speaks better than most MAGA.
@@dannyhernandez1212 not really. But still ok enough to understand.
Dude, are you Brazilian by any chance? All of us have the same accent when speaking English
0:46 Is Daryl ever going to put a sight on that crossbow?
7:58 That's consistent with the Romero mythos.
"Patient zero" of zombie came from France imo , a highly nuclear energy users country ... everything is possible 😅
Your English is great dude! Don't sweat it!
Do you count patient zero as the furst person to contract the virus or the first person to come back from the dead? You could make a case either way, but they aren't necessarily the same person.
She's not zero.... there's a mini web series about the plane that flies over after Nic runs from the church... in that plane is a man who was bit and contaminates the rest of passengers...
The male teen and Asian woman who get out of the crash alive are the people who get towed behind by Madison when Madison's group is escaping on the boat..
My point, as that plane is taking off, the male teen is watching lights going out all over the city... the virus was already raging when Nic finds his girlfriend chewing on another guy..
nah the plane flies over their house after the military sets up the safezone
@@noblecs2 nope....
@@WhirledPeasFursure yes
Given the typical rate of infection someone would have died and turned before everyone was infected.
So the original virus would have to be one that would always eventually mutate into one that did.
So I'm assuming an original "harmless" wildfire virus and then the amped up one that French lab set loose.
Kirkman intentionally didn’t want to give an origin of the zombie outbreak, because the characters would never know and ultimately it didn’t matter.
Your English is good but you sure say the same thing over and over again way too many times.
The Walking Dead Wiki confirms that Gloria from Fear TWD is actually patient zero.
She can't be.
@@nadialattab8790 Well, look it up yourself.
I'm under the impression that the outbreak became catastrophic in the eastern U.S. long before it did in California.
Correct,the CDC appears to
have been lying by omission and simply peddling it off as the “ flu” that was done in order to insure they were safe while the population at large was thrown to the dogs
I think they should say less until all the creatives get together and plan out a lore Bible.
The reason they say things inconsistent is because they haven't effectively planned it out.
This isn't a real world they are uncovering. It's just a story and I honestly think they shouldn't try and write in a patient 0 or how it spreads.
You don't need it, every time they do that, it just ruins it.
Even the prequel to Night Of The Living Dead is going to go into details,unfinished script George Romero’s son is working on 🧐
Ya but the real question is Do Zombies Fart? 💩 💨
😂 So random...
I wanna know how rick survived the hospital with no iv or medicine for almost 60 days!!!!
She couldn’t have been the first. Military cleared the church too fast. They already knew what they were dealing with.
We saw her parents at the hospital/drug clinic. They were the rich couple waiting for her, when Nicks mom showed up.
Weren't they? I'll have to go back and find it.
She was a rich girl with what seemed like everything going for her and that's how her life ended. Addicted, in a drug hovel, infected and eating a dead body. After killing it?
Yeah, it couldn't be just one person or else it would have been isolated to her and not the world.
Definitely a govt experiment gone wrong lol that's my guess.
There's no proof that nicks GF was the first to turn in the city.
Patient zero is whoever inhaled the man made virus first not who turned first.
I wish it was more clear like in resident evil 2 video game when g infected birkham stepped on the t virus samples and it got in the water supply . That’s how that zombie virus spread
It was a very slow moving and painful show. I’m surprised it lasted so long! Didn’t Patient Zero start in France?
I reckon the first person to turn into a zombalomba, was the first person to get up and start walking around after they died.
Your english is pretty good, nice video
Well, the showrunners said that Gloria from FTWD was patient zero.
No sens.
I wouldn't mind if they do give a virus origin story, but it would be against the original meaning of the franchise as told by Robert Kirkman.
Imagine, if it really happened, probably no one would believe it until nothing was too late
I loved how the outbreak occured in FTWD
I too have learned that it started in France, but to be honest, the more detail they try to give, the more flawed and disappointing it becomes. I think it's best to keep the audience guessing.
Unless of course, they're saying none of this is real. What do I do with all this toilet roll??????