The French Water War | VPRO Documentary

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2023
  • Almost half of France's total water consumption goes to agriculture, and in some regions and periods even more than eighty percent goes to irrigation. Large-scale water reserves are created to water the fields in hot summers.
    But as France faces increasingly frequent water shortages, opposition to these reservoirs is growing. There, it is not angry farmers who occupy the roads with tractors, but rather citizens who take to the field against farmers.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 21

  • @vote4republicans2024
    @vote4republicans2024 6 місяців тому +5

    Ok, but the people consume the food that the farmers produce so really it's the people that consume the water not the farmers.

    • @mitkoogrozev
      @mitkoogrozev 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes and no. There's a lot of optimization that can be done on that end. You can grow food with less water. Fossil fuel fertilizers seem to require tons of water. Also it seems that most of the water goes for crops for animal agriculture, and eating animals is extremely inefficient. A lot more water , energy and resources overall goes for animal agriculture, than plants grown for direct human consumption. Also some of the crops or parts of them are for industrial uses. And in general business practices are optimized for generating the most product to be sold, not nutrition, not smart use of resources, not recyclability and/or sustainability of your process etc. so you progressively need more and more resources and energy, which from 'economic' or more specifically capitalism/monetary system POV, which is the one that currently dominates and drives everything in the world (I wouldn't really call it an economic system, because in practice and by definition it is an anti-economic system) is fantastic.
      And of course, unchecked growing population. Even though we might be able to feed everyone and potentially even more, there's tremendous inefficiencies and waste build into the global capitalist/monetary system.

    • @vote4republicans2024
      @vote4republicans2024 6 місяців тому +2

      @@mitkoogrozev All that and you missed the most important point in that it is people (the consumers) that drive agriculture practices. You also missed the part where there is no shortage of water, nor a shortage of land. It's only a wild guess as to how many people this world can sustain. 8 billion probably on the very low side as much of the world is completely uninhabited by humans and over 2/3rds of the world is covered by water. Lastly global capitalism and monetary system is the one thing that has proven to lift humans out of poverty and provide the greatest number of people a higher living standard.

    • @mitkoogrozev
      @mitkoogrozev 6 місяців тому

      @@vote4republicans2024 I am sorry, but I am not in the mood to explain. You are way too deep in the capitalism propaganda and probably lack of knowledge of how much resources we have, how much energy it takes to produce what, and how much land you cannot use unless you want to collapse the biosphere and by extension everything alive on it, which of course includes humans. So since it would take a response 10 times longer to unentangle every and each of your sentences by explaining how each one is wrong/ misunderstanding/ lacking some knowledge , I'll just make counter-statements and I'll leave it up to you to figure it out.
      1. Consumers don't drive demand. The monetary system by how it functions creates demand, and it usually manifests in corporations doing so.
      2. Free land or water in terms of raw quantity and physically available space does mean you can have a population that uses/fills up all it. Having most of the Earth's surface not being covered by human beings doesn't mean you can have the whole surface covered. The 'empty space' , ain't really empty. A lot of processes occur on it that allows the existence of complex organisms, and you can't use it all without killing yourself in the process. Just like a virus cannot stay alive if it infects the whole host and/or critical organs. It can continue to exist as long as the infection is contained in some area. After a certain point it would kill the host, and by extension itself, since it needs the host to be alive to replicate.
      3.Capitalism/monetary system has nothing to do with improving the lives of people. It's science, knowledge and technology by investigating reality and testing how things work is what improves the lives of people.
      The system just concentrates wealth in a few people, while exploiting the rest and demands infinite consumption and expansion for it to function, which in a finite planet is ultimately self destructive, and if you look at all life support systems, and understand how the profit motive work, you'll find out that all of them are in decline, and to a large degree between things that seem like discreet unrelated problems, as a core motivator for those issues is actually the monetary system.
      4. How many people can be supported is arguable, depending on what type of life you want them to live. If they are supposed to live at the consumption and energy levels that for example USA is using, it's probably not possible to have 8 billion people, since there's not enough resources to do that, and also the fossil fuels on which that standard of living relies is declining and must be stopped anyway due to the climatic problems it causes, and there's probably not enough resources to use solar , wind etc. power to keep such a high population at such high energy consumption and resource consumption, which is destroying the biosphere anyway, and cannot be supported even if we had the resources.

    • @rmf9567
      @rmf9567 6 місяців тому

      These are also the people that say Stalin was a hero

  • @robroberts1473
    @robroberts1473 6 місяців тому +2

    Farmers use half the water gasp! You mean it takes water to grow food wtf!?

  • @beickus
    @beickus 5 місяців тому

    the same is going on all rural areas - here they take the water at night to fill their reservoirs and next day we cannot even go to the toilet

  • @rasaltpeso1466
    @rasaltpeso1466 6 місяців тому +2

    Love Bram Vermuelen.

  • @_Image_Generator
    @_Image_Generator 6 місяців тому

    So minimize evaporation in the soils. Build a giant tarp or something

  • @garlandstyle5797
    @garlandstyle5797 3 місяці тому

    They aren't farmers. They are cattle feeders. Think of how much food, vegetables, they could grow for people. This is awful to see. :(

  • @HungTran-39
    @HungTran-39 6 місяців тому +1

    🇻🇳❤️🇳🇱!!!

  • @mavcek
    @mavcek 6 місяців тому

    It's maize, not corn

  • @Pietari55
    @Pietari55 6 місяців тому

    Bull shiting in France.

  • @roberthiggins6401
    @roberthiggins6401 6 місяців тому

    My initial reaction too and I've not watched more than five minutes.
    Rained loads of the summer in UK.
    I don't believe its the hottest summer either.
    All alarmism and bullshit.
    Be interesting to see what others say especially from France?

  • @roberthiggins6401
    @roberthiggins6401 6 місяців тому +1

    Green wash! Blame farmers for everything.

  • @funkymunky
    @funkymunky 6 місяців тому

    Ha, ha 👉🏻