This is a great attitude to have. I never really saw jobbing that way until I watched this video and, now more than ever, I appreciate it a little more than I did before. Justin Credible is right. Along with having a look, a style, a good work ethic, passion, charisma, microphone skills, athleticism, and good in-ring ability to tell a story -- knowing how to make someone look good is also a great tool to have. It's not like Justin lost in 5 seconds or in manners that are absolutely embarrassing. Nope, he had competitive matches and made his opponents work for a victory. That in turn made him and the winner look even better. I will criticize Justin for one thing. Him telling fans, "It's fake" which is like, why would you want to tell someone that? Yes, it is scripted, but I don't get the logic behind telling someone that. Just saying.
Being a Jobber doesnt make you a bad wrestler, it just makes you a adaptable one, Justin Credible was an incredible wrestler, even as a jobber it is an art to put somebody over, Look at Dolph Ziggler!
@@becarefulwhatyoufish4764 uh...ok...so let's say you're a champion wrestler...you hit me with a move and I dont react to it. You'd piss somebody off but could even actually punch your opponent dead in the jaw...but if they dont sit there for a minute holding their mouth, seeing if they're bleeding, counting their teeth....the move will look like trash even if it's real. It's called selling and if you dont do that the match isnt exciting to the audience. Essentially, it's entirely about making the opponent look good. You just dont do it in an obvious way.
When I broke in in 1973, Harley Race told me "You have to learn how to lose before you can learn how to win" before I ever had a match, and I wholeheartedly agreed with him and still do. I loved taking big bumps and never minded losing. In some territories I worked on top and jobbed in others and loved every second of it. Pro Wrestling 101 is an excellent series and I only wish I'd had something like this to watch back in the territorial days when it was more fun. I'm not putting down today's workers, as the entire sport has evolved and will keep evolving. ROH and a lot of other indies, especially PWG in California, have talent that is equal to the best anywhere at any period in the history of the business...make that sport. The young guys just starting out need to watch every one of Justin's videos, as he's right on the money on everything he says. Even though I'm 66 and long retired from the ring, I appreciate you taking your time to give well-needed advice. Thanks from wrestlers of all eras. As Dr Jerry Graham once told me during a match in Bakersfield in 1982, let's go home Charlie. I need some beer and another one of your joints. Doc was one of a kind and I know that he would approve of Pro Wrestling 101.
+BaronTurco Awesome stories Baron. Harley Race is one of the most respected men in the business, and one of two men (the other being Meng) to be feared by Andre the Giant. On an unrelated topic, what Chess record do you have as your profile pic? I'm a big music geek myself lol.
BaronTurco Sir thank you for your contributions in this industry. Can you expound on this topic JUSTIN is speaking about? Also I have a question: Q: IF YOU WERE WORKING IN THIS ERA AND ABOUT TO START ON THE INDYS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO STAND OUT? BEST WISHES SIR. JORDAN
You broke in ten years before I was born!! That was insane!!!!!! Even more insane to think you could've been like Ric Flair now if you'd been as successful as him!!!!!! Still, respect to you!!!! I'd never be tough enough to take bumps!!! I used to be pretty much crying in fights at high school after taking a punch or two to the nose. ;*(
This is so true...wrestling isn't worth watching if it doesn't look good. In opinion a dude who goes out and loses 90% of his matches but still puts all his effort into looking good and making it believable is more fun to watch than a dude who just wins every match and buries people.
I don't remember where I read or heard this, but when you start imagining yourself more lying on the mat losing, than winning? Then you're ready to be a pro wrestler. Losing is an art form, and imo, the most important part of a match, the Finish. the way guys can lose, whether clean or Dusty, can add to either the story, or hell, their legacy. Thank you for the videos bro! I hope and wish more future wrestlers find these and learn.
The first minute alone of this video gets a HUGE kudos from me. I hate when egos get in the way of business. Everybody cannot headline, everybody cannot be in the main event, and MOST workers are going to lose... who cares!!! As long as the fans are entertained and workers get compensated. Thanks J.C.
In any profession, when you first start there are people who have been there longer than you. Those senior workers will teach you things. You being the new guy have the option to learn what the senior worker is showing you. Then you strive to be the best you can. Then the day will come when a new guy comes in and now you will show them.
I watched you fight Randy Orton twice. Once in Moncton N.B. and once at WM 18 Fan Axxess in Toronto Canada. I was shouting Justin make an impact. Was cool seeing one of my favorite wrestlers live twice in a span of a few months.
Great vid by PJ. I have always appreciated his work ethic. Great on the mic too. I remember going to a Guilty As Charged PPV, where he and Tommy Dreamer tore the house down. What a match! I held an " Aldo Who" sign. PJ saw it and cracked a smile. LOL
Just watched this and all the other 101's posted so far and they've been excellent! As a fan who got smart really early (I got the old Meltzer Observer in the late '80s in my early teens) I have always loved the inner workings of a true art form, Professional Wresting. PJ-Justin is such a great worker and has a brilliant mind for the business. Great series and I am spreading the word for my buddies to subscribe.
He allows his partner in the match to have enough time to sell. Our ADHD audience likes the high spot to the next high spot, on so on, to keep our attention. Selling today is a lost art (which Justin Credible as a video on). A lot of newer wrestlers "work too fast" as told by the veterans: Rush too many high spots, not enough selling. A great example is the Will Ospreay vs Vader feud, which they made great money out of it. The big takeway was Vader telling Ospreay to do less high spots and focus on selling so each high spot is important. Recently Show jobbed to Braun Strowman, that was a solid match that made both look good.Strowman took a chokeslam from Taker before WrestleMania, which he sold it enough to make Taker look like Taker that we expect.
These videos are a great tool for promoters and those who want to be promoters. I watched many of these videos and they have realistic, yet truth, views in them.
I hope this video will go around and around. Millions of wrestling fans should see this, so they will hopefully have some more respect for the guys that do the "job".
This is a cool video. As a long time ECW fan...I always loved your work as Justin Credible. "That's Not Just the Best , thats not Just the Coolest....that is Justin Credible !" It also was pretty cool that you got to be ECW World Champion there . Its a shame though ECW went down. I would have loved to see the Impact Players (version 2) team you seemed to form with Steve Corino at the last PPV. I think that was it. That would have been a great team.
PJ Polaco is a good man. Nice to see there's still guys out there who aren't bitter towards the industry and know what they're talking about. All the best PJ.
Justin, These videos are great! I remember when you put Mick Foley over on Raw, maybe around 17 years ago. He was just starting his run as Mankind in the WWF, and I think it may have been his second match - I think Bob Holly put him over in his debut match. I'll never forget at the end when he stuck his hand down your throat, and then you started foaming at the mouth...I hope Vince paid you extra for that.
Justin credible this is a great video to teach wrestling fans about respecting the athletes everyone has a role and sport in this world with this video was pointing out
Holy Dump! The Portuguese Man-of-War! I remember you! Glad to see you had a career after the WWF didn't really give you much of a push. I always remember you doing pin combinations--two or three different kinds of roll-ups in a row. I thought that looked cool.
No wonder him and Lance were a tag team. They are the two most level headed guys in pro wrestling. Justin is definitely one of the most underrated wrestlers out there.
great video! Jobbers are probably the most important part of wrestling they might not get all the glory with the fans but theyre what gets the top guys over
I found this quite inspiring. Not that I'm looking to become a pro wrestler, but I mean if you didn't become leader of something, a frontman (and I guess you could call a wrestling champion a leader/frontman) you can at least be proud that you helped make somebody else a good leader. I haven't seen many of Justin's matches, but I remember a great one against Jerry Lynn in ECW, which he won with a tombstone from the middle rope. I'd say based on this that he has a good positive attitude. I don't think people should necessarily take this as discouragement from being a leader/frontman, but it's something to fall back on if you try, but aren't able to be one.
Duain Gill , Barry Hardy , Myself , Barry Horowitz, Justin , so many others and People to this day don't get it. Why are their no more true SUPERSTARS that will be known for 30 years ? Say what you will but I had a blast helping to get guys over all over the country as i got to see so many things others will always just dream about. Cudos Justin for nailing this one head on !
great video,subscribed.i'm proud to say i have seen you wrestle live many times and got to meet you a few times,you always put on great matches and i think wwe needs someone like you in the company right now. i'm so glad you are doing these video's,they are very interesting.thank you.
I agree with Justin's point of view. I have a 25 plus year career in the Martial Arts. While trying to getnew students, we would put on demonstrations. These demos weren't that much different from pro-wrestling. Coming up through the ranks I would be the attacker and have a self defense technique done to me. I know how to fall, how to bend at the right moment(body mechanics) and how to react to kicks, punches and take downs. These guys are pros and have my respect!!!
Appreciate the video, Justin, and it was good as well as elucidating, but I was still a little disappointed because I thought you might talk about the knack of HOW to put someone over, how to do a good 'job'. Maybe another video for that?
Roddy Piper used a term that I had never heard before or since to describe wrestlers like Justin Credible or Steve Lombardi; a carpenter. Carpenters carry a lot of respect because they're skilled wrestlers who help to build other guys up and make them look good.
in 1994 i got aldo montoya's autograph lol so true though, someone has to win and someone has to lose and jobbers play a very important role in wrestling.
t has been a great priviledge to know Justin Credile and he is truly the consomate professional, awesome guy, great wrestler and he knows his art better than some of the big guys.
Couldn't of been said better. Putting people over is one of the most important parts of this business. Hell if I could get TV time and job to people every week I couldn't complain about a thing. Doesn't matter wether you win or lose, just wether you pulled of a good match.
Wow I never thought much of this dude until I watched this video. So much skill is needed in making someone look good hopefully others Justin put over remembered everyone that helped. Both Rick Rude and Randy Savage (even Hogan) made the Ultimate Warrior but in his speech Jim Hellwig remembered to give a shout out to Terry Gibbs. I think the good jobbers are the ones that might appear to have a chance to win..
I digged the Brooklyn Brawler, Barry Horowitz and "Iron" Mike Sharpe (with the arm injury that never healed) - great characters. I like Batista too ! I heard of CM Punk thru Full Impact Pro/ROH DVD videos and TNA Wrestling, before coming into the WWE. I remembered WWF Superstars having jobbers losing for the first 3 matches and then the main event with 2 "big" stars. I was thinking about Goldberg's WCW "streak" by beating up "enhancement talent" and rise to power (becoming into world champion material).
yeah...good stuff. some of my fav undercarders rocky kernoldle itallion stallion mark flemming rocky king george south rikki nelson. these guys made the big guys look good. they even got the chance from time to time to get some good hits in the matches too.
Justin Credible had great matches don't confuse being a jobber for being weak developing other talent and letting them step into the spot light shows how Justin Credible put the business first. Remember he has held championships in several promotions.
In fact, you could say I was a jobber at high school as well, the way how I was in mainly bottom sets for everything, and the one time I did get into a top set, the other kids there made it clear they didn't think I belonged there. Stereotypically, you imagine top set kids being nerdy and studious, don't you????? Well in the one top set I got to, they all just seemed to be arrogant rich kids, and higher tier jock types. In other words, not the kind of place I wanted to be. I actually preferred the bottom sets. Can you believe some of the kids in that particular top set would actually talk down to teachers, say if the teachers accused them of slacking off, or whatever?????
Yes, the jobber is just as important as the guy who is the headliner. Ask wwf/nwa jobber legends like Omar Atlas, Terry Gibbs, Steve Lombardi, The Italian Stallion, Reno Riggins, Barry Horowitz, Tony Roy, Dale Wolfe, Tom Stone, Jim Powers or George South and they will tell you what Justin says in the video. They are proud of doing the job because they did what they were supposed to do and that was to get the headliner over.
Its true what he says about getting people over and you need a great jobber someone who can take a average talent and making them look like a superstar is very important to the continued success of pro wrestling
Losing to an upcoming and coming guy to make him look good and losing to a well established wrestler, like Punk is now, are two completely different things. He's not a jobber, he's just another guy trying to get over and he's not there yet. Infact, he has improved since he arrived in WWE through working with guys like Punk.
Great video, JC. Even though you were kept out of the limelight by the WWF\WWE, I for one think you proved yourself as a credible (pun intended) world champion in ECW. The marks who played along with Damien Demento's UA-cam shoots by calling him a 'jobber' (which he wasn't) could learn something from you.
Man I'd just love to get in the ring and run the ropes. People don't understand how tough this business is. Justin, you did the dream for 20 years. Thats whats up!
I think that is kinda why most wrestlers need to change gimmicks/personas often. If you are a guy who jobs all the time, that's great. But if you develop your skills, improve your physique, improve your ability to act/cut promos then you need to change your name and ring gear and lobby to go over most of the time. Then you can at least have a shot at maybe moving up to the next level. It's very complicated.
And yeah Scott Taylor was a jobber at heart before him & Christopher decided to form Too Much which became Too Cool & kind of got over with the fans finally as Scotty 2 Hotty.
While jobbing is important, it can go badly, like with Jericho in his latest run. He came back talked a big game and just kept losing and ultimately the person he was working with really didn't benefit from it and Jericho's fans were all frustrated due to him coming off as incapable. I think wwe needs to show more matches of nameless people who job so they don't continuously crush their built talent from some dumb lose to try to get someone else over, like both WWE and WCW used to.
WWE should bring Justin Credible back as a trainer and a utility player on the Main Roster. Christian was supposed to be that guy but he keeps getting hurt. PJ would be perfect in that role. He's a guy who can teach these younger guys. Plus, teach these kids the art of the promo. Some of the best promo guys are the people who know who their character is. Jake Roberts, Bill Eadie (Masked Superstar, Demolition Ax), and so forth and Justin can teach that.
man i remember that match against Punk... you made him into a million bucks quick.. respect..
This is a great attitude to have. I never really saw jobbing that way until I watched this video and, now more than ever, I appreciate it a little more than I did before. Justin Credible is right. Along with having a look, a style, a good work ethic, passion, charisma, microphone skills, athleticism, and good in-ring ability to tell a story -- knowing how to make someone look good is also a great tool to have.
It's not like Justin lost in 5 seconds or in manners that are absolutely embarrassing. Nope, he had competitive matches and made his opponents work for a victory. That in turn made him and the winner look even better.
I will criticize Justin for one thing. Him telling fans, "It's fake" which is like, why would you want to tell someone that? Yes, it is scripted, but I don't get the logic behind telling someone that. Just saying.
Dalyxman i think he meant it's a fake fight lol
Being a Jobber doesnt make you a bad wrestler, it just makes you a adaptable one, Justin Credible was an incredible wrestler, even as a jobber it is an art to put somebody over, Look at Dolph Ziggler!
Hell look at Slater. Note Note. When Bret hart had to fight someone it was with Slater.
Well, Bret Hart is one of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time...... ;)
It’s an art to make your opponents/enemies look good? What fun is that? Maybe making your tag team partners look good but not your opponents.
@@becarefulwhatyoufish4764 uh...ok...so let's say you're a champion wrestler...you hit me with a move and I dont react to it. You'd piss somebody off but could even actually punch your opponent dead in the jaw...but if they dont sit there for a minute holding their mouth, seeing if they're bleeding, counting their teeth....the move will look like trash even if it's real. It's called selling and if you dont do that the match isnt exciting to the audience. Essentially, it's entirely about making the opponent look good. You just dont do it in an obvious way.
Fans: “This guy was always a jobber”
ECW: World Heavyweight Champion and Tag Team Champion
WWE: Multiple time Hardcore Champion
When I broke in in 1973, Harley Race told me "You have to learn how to lose before you can learn how to win" before I ever had a match, and I wholeheartedly agreed with him and still do. I loved taking big bumps and never minded losing. In some territories I worked on top and jobbed in others and loved every second of it. Pro Wrestling 101 is an excellent series and I only wish I'd had something like this to watch back in the territorial days when it was more fun. I'm not putting down today's workers, as the entire sport has evolved and will keep evolving. ROH and a lot of other indies, especially PWG in California, have talent that is equal to the best anywhere at any period in the history of the business...make that sport. The young guys just starting out need to watch every one of Justin's videos, as he's right on the money on everything he says. Even though I'm 66 and long retired from the ring, I appreciate you taking your time to give well-needed advice. Thanks from wrestlers of all eras. As Dr Jerry Graham once told me during a match in Bakersfield in 1982, let's go home Charlie. I need some beer and another one of your joints. Doc was one of a kind and I know that he would approve of Pro Wrestling 101.
+BaronTurco Awesome stories Baron. Harley Race is one of the most respected men in the business, and one of two men (the other being Meng) to be feared by Andre the Giant. On an unrelated topic, what Chess record do you have as your profile pic? I'm a big music geek myself lol.
BaronTurco Sir thank you for your contributions in this industry. Can you expound on this topic JUSTIN is speaking about? Also I have a question:
Q: IF YOU WERE WORKING IN THIS ERA AND ABOUT TO START ON THE INDYS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO STAND OUT? BEST WISHES SIR. JORDAN
ARE YOU THAT ATHEIST I ARGUED WITH THAT TIME ON ONE OF JUSTIN'S VIDEOS, AND WHEN I CUT A TEXT MESSAGE PROMO, YOU SAID I WAS LIKE NICK BOCKWINKLE??????
You broke in ten years before I was born!! That was insane!!!!!! Even more insane to think you could've been like Ric Flair now if you'd been as successful as him!!!!!! Still, respect to you!!!! I'd never be tough enough to take bumps!!! I used to be pretty much crying in fights at high school after taking a punch or two to the nose. ;*(
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I really liked your match against CM Punk in ECW
This is so true...wrestling isn't worth watching if it doesn't look good. In opinion a dude who goes out and loses 90% of his matches but still puts all his effort into looking good and making it believable is more fun to watch than a dude who just wins every match and buries people.
I’m down with jobbing but not losing 90% of my matches and never putting my true strength on display.
i would prefer being a jobber before to be an extra wrestler who wins but only in non important matches, at least jobbers lose to main eventers.
I don't remember where I read or heard this, but when you start imagining yourself more lying on the mat losing, than winning? Then you're ready to be a pro wrestler. Losing is an art form, and imo, the most important part of a match, the Finish. the way guys can lose, whether clean or Dusty, can add to either the story, or hell, their legacy. Thank you for the videos bro! I hope and wish more future wrestlers find these and learn.
i love jobbing, it's my next guilty pleasure in the biz next to wrestling with a shirt on.
It is a misconception to equate being a jobber with being unsuccessful. Jobbers, especially jobbers to the stars, are absolutely invaluable.
The first minute alone of this video gets a HUGE kudos from me. I hate when egos get in the way of business. Everybody cannot headline, everybody cannot be in the main event, and MOST workers are going to lose... who cares!!! As long as the fans are entertained and workers get compensated. Thanks J.C.
Very thoughtful and realistic look at jobbing. Glad to see you're doing well, Justin
In any profession, when you first start there are people who have been there longer than you. Those senior workers will teach you things. You being the new guy have the option to learn what the senior worker is showing you. Then you strive to be the best you can. Then the day will come when a new guy comes in and now you will show them.
I respect the hell out of Justin Credible. He has such a great outlook on things that I admire and has a great mind for the business. Thank you PJ
I watched you fight Randy Orton twice. Once in Moncton N.B. and once at WM 18 Fan Axxess in Toronto Canada. I was shouting Justin make an impact. Was cool seeing one of my favorite wrestlers live twice in a span of a few months.
Great vid by PJ. I have always appreciated his work ethic. Great on the mic too. I remember going to a Guilty As Charged PPV, where he and Tommy Dreamer tore the house down. What a match! I held an " Aldo Who" sign. PJ saw it and cracked a smile. LOL
Just watched this and all the other 101's posted so far and they've been excellent! As a fan who got smart really early (I got the old Meltzer Observer in the late '80s in my early teens) I have always loved the inner workings of a true art form, Professional Wresting. PJ-Justin is such a great worker and has a brilliant mind for the business. Great series and I am spreading the word for my buddies to subscribe.
See Stone Cold Steve Austin's podcast with Big Show. Show says he appreciates his role as a hand today in this career
Problem with Show is he doesn't make them look good. He bores everyone to tears with his slow plodding offense.
He allows his partner in the match to have enough time to sell. Our ADHD audience likes the high spot to the next high spot, on so on, to keep our attention. Selling today is a lost art (which Justin Credible as a video on). A lot of newer wrestlers "work too fast" as told by the veterans: Rush too many high spots, not enough selling. A great example is the Will Ospreay vs Vader feud, which they made great money out of it. The big takeway was Vader telling Ospreay to do less high spots and focus on selling so each high spot is important. Recently Show jobbed to Braun Strowman, that was a solid match that made both look good.Strowman took a chokeslam from Taker before WrestleMania, which he sold it enough to make Taker look like Taker that we expect.
Great stuff its always so interesting to get a pro telling you how the buisness works . Keep em coming .
These videos are a great tool for promoters and those who want to be promoters. I watched many of these videos and they have realistic, yet truth, views in them.
I love the insight that you give on the whole situation. This is awesome, instant subscribe!
Ric Flair loved doing the job he actually saw it as more fun.
The honesty in this video is refreshing. I gained respect for this dude.
Great video man, really puts across how important jobbers are, especially in creating future main eventers :).
I hope this video will go around and around. Millions of wrestling fans should see this, so they will hopefully have some more respect for the guys that do the "job".
I knew most of this but my hats off to Justin for way he broke it down so everyone could get better insight about jobbing etc...
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Thank you Justin, as a fan and worker I believe that you have created a video series that truly educates "smart marks". Once again thank you
Make perfect sense thanks for your videos it help i am trying to break in a tag team in pa and watching this helps them
This is a cool video. As a long time ECW fan...I always loved your work as Justin Credible. "That's Not Just the Best , thats not Just the Coolest....that is Justin Credible !" It also was pretty cool that you got to be ECW World Champion there . Its a shame though ECW went down. I would have loved to see the Impact Players (version 2) team you seemed to form with Steve Corino at the last PPV. I think that was it. That would have been a great team.
There's a reason why there's no 'thumbs down' for this video; top professional speaking!
Brooklyn brawler has to be one of the best jobbers there is..A legend in his own right
optimusidol Barry Horowitz
PJ Polaco is a good man. Nice to see there's still guys out there who aren't bitter towards the industry and know what they're talking about. All the best PJ.
Justin,
These videos are great! I remember when you put Mick Foley over on Raw, maybe around 17 years ago. He was just starting his run as Mankind in the WWF, and I think it may have been his second match - I think Bob Holly put him over in his debut match. I'll never forget at the end when he stuck his hand down your throat, and then you started foaming at the mouth...I hope Vince paid you extra for that.
Justin credible this is a great video to teach wrestling fans about respecting the athletes everyone has a role and sport in this world with this video was pointing out
Gotta hand it to You, you deliver THE BEST inside scoop ever
Holy Dump! The Portuguese Man-of-War! I remember you! Glad to see you had a career after the WWF didn't really give you much of a push. I always remember you doing pin combinations--two or three different kinds of roll-ups in a row. I thought that looked cool.
Excellent video - I'm going to watch more of these. It is really cool to see no one has hit the dislike on this.
It might sound weird but when I wrestle, I actually wanna start off as a jobber, slowly come up to midcard and then finally go to main card!
Believe it or not, the jobbers were always in demand, especially the good ones.
No wonder him and Lance were a tag team. They are the two most level headed guys in pro wrestling. Justin is definitely one of the most underrated wrestlers out there.
great video! Jobbers are probably the most important part of wrestling they might not get all the glory with the fans but theyre what gets the top guys over
Good to see you Justin and way to educate the masses man.
Justin, you're a personal hero and role model. You have my respect.
Corkscrew tombstone, mah gawd. Credible vs. Lynn is an all-time program.
This guy is always on his game.. One of the best wrestlers of all time... That being said time to share the lime light... God bless justin
Some dudes put guys over and some dudes get put over, but they all get paid. #Respect
wow what a great and positive way to look at it, and he's right!
I found this quite inspiring. Not that I'm looking to become a pro wrestler, but I mean if you didn't become leader of something, a frontman (and I guess you could call a wrestling champion a leader/frontman) you can at least be proud that you helped make somebody else a good leader. I haven't seen many of Justin's matches, but I remember a great one against Jerry Lynn in ECW, which he won with a tombstone from the middle rope. I'd say based on this that he has a good positive attitude. I don't think people should necessarily take this as discouragement from being a leader/frontman, but it's something to fall back on if you try, but aren't able to be one.
Duain Gill , Barry Hardy , Myself , Barry Horowitz, Justin , so many others and People to this day don't get it. Why are their no more true SUPERSTARS that will be known for 30 years ? Say what you will but I had a blast helping to get guys over all over the country as i got to see so many things others will always just dream about. Cudos Justin for nailing this one head on !
great video,subscribed.i'm proud to say i have seen you wrestle live many times and got to meet you a few times,you always put on great matches and i think wwe needs someone like you in the company right now.
i'm so glad you are doing these video's,they are very interesting.thank you.
I agree with Justin's point of view. I have a 25 plus year career in the Martial Arts. While trying to getnew students, we would put on demonstrations. These demos weren't that much different from pro-wrestling. Coming up through the ranks I would be the attacker and have a self defense technique done to me. I know how to fall, how to bend at the right moment(body mechanics) and how to react to kicks, punches and take downs. These guys are pros and have my respect!!!
Appreciate the video, Justin, and it was good as well as elucidating, but I was still a little disappointed because I thought you might talk about the knack of HOW to put someone over, how to do a good 'job'. Maybe another video for that?
Great talk nice video
Roddy Piper used a term that I had never heard before or since to describe wrestlers like Justin Credible or Steve Lombardi; a carpenter. Carpenters carry a lot of respect because they're skilled wrestlers who help to build other guys up and make them look good.
Wow you were awesome back in ECW and you know what dude - Your still awesome and that is Just In Credible.
Justin is educating us very well SALUTE
in 1994 i got aldo montoya's autograph lol so true though, someone has to win and someone has to lose and jobbers play a very important role in wrestling.
The business wouldn't exist without the jobber. The jobber is the cornerstone of pro wrestling. Show some respect.
t has been a great priviledge to know Justin Credile and he is truly the consomate professional, awesome guy, great wrestler and he knows his art better than some of the big guys.
This is the wrestling topic you know the most about!!!!
Couldn't of been said better.
Putting people over is one of the most important parts of this business. Hell if I could get TV time and job to people every week I couldn't complain about a thing.
Doesn't matter wether you win or lose, just wether you pulled of a good match.
Justin Credible got me into EWC and back to watching wrestling again after I had lost interest.
Wow I never thought much of this dude until I watched this video. So much skill is needed in making someone look good hopefully others Justin put over remembered everyone that helped. Both Rick Rude and Randy Savage (even Hogan) made the Ultimate Warrior but in his speech Jim Hellwig remembered to give a shout out to Terry Gibbs. I think the good jobbers are the ones that might appear to have a chance to win..
Absolutely correct. CM Punk's TV debut was against Justin Credible and he made Punk look like a million bucks.
I digged the Brooklyn Brawler, Barry Horowitz and "Iron" Mike Sharpe (with the arm injury that never healed) - great characters. I like Batista too ! I heard of CM Punk thru Full Impact Pro/ROH DVD videos and TNA Wrestling, before coming into the WWE. I remembered WWF Superstars having jobbers losing for the first 3 matches and then the main event with 2 "big" stars. I was thinking about Goldberg's WCW "streak" by beating up "enhancement talent" and rise to power (becoming into world champion material).
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As always, quality information from one of the best
well said, I respect this guy's honesty.
Hell, Flair made Sting a bonafide Superstar when he jobbed to him at Great American Bash.
This was good Thanks Justin
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Thank you so much these videos are so much important for me
How about the importance of making fans happy and making Aldo Montoya Wwf Intercontinental Champion?
Dude, you are a life-saver. Please write a book.
yeah...good stuff. some of my fav undercarders rocky kernoldle itallion stallion mark flemming rocky king george south rikki nelson. these guys made the big guys look good. they even got the chance from time to time to get some good hits in the matches too.
Justin Credible had great matches don't confuse being a jobber for being weak developing other talent and letting them step into the spot light shows how Justin Credible put the business first. Remember he has held championships in several promotions.
In fact, you could say I was a jobber at high school as well, the way how I was in mainly bottom sets for everything, and the one time I did get into a top set, the other kids there made it clear they didn't think I belonged there. Stereotypically, you imagine top set kids being nerdy and studious, don't you????? Well in the one top set I got to, they all just seemed to be arrogant rich kids, and higher tier jock types. In other words, not the kind of place I wanted to be. I actually preferred the bottom sets. Can you believe some of the kids in that particular top set would actually talk down to teachers, say if the teachers accused them of slacking off, or whatever?????
James Ellsworth is the best jobber ever
Yes, the jobber is just as important as the guy who is the headliner. Ask wwf/nwa jobber legends like Omar Atlas, Terry Gibbs, Steve Lombardi, The Italian Stallion, Reno Riggins, Barry Horowitz, Tony Roy, Dale Wolfe, Tom Stone, Jim Powers or George South and they will tell you what Justin says in the video. They are proud of doing the job because they did what they were supposed to do and that was to get the headliner over.
This intro is so 90s....
Its true what he says about getting people over and you need a great jobber someone who can take a average talent and making them look like a superstar is very important to the continued success of pro wrestling
Losing to an upcoming and coming guy to make him look good and losing to a well established wrestler, like Punk is now, are two completely different things. He's not a jobber, he's just another guy trying to get over and he's not there yet. Infact, he has improved since he arrived in WWE through working with guys like Punk.
I remember those matches with Batista! That's what I was thinking of when I clicked this video.
Great video, JC. Even though you were kept out of the limelight by the WWF\WWE, I for one think you proved yourself as a credible (pun intended) world champion in ECW. The marks who played along with Damien Demento's UA-cam shoots by calling him a 'jobber' (which he wasn't) could learn something from you.
Man I'd just love to get in the ring and run the ropes. People don't understand how tough this business is. Justin, you did the dream for 20 years. Thats whats up!
Being a jobber can also hurt your character.
I use love Tommy dreamer and once he came to wwe all he did was job and I really hated that,
I think that is kinda why most wrestlers need to change gimmicks/personas often. If you are a guy who jobs all the time, that's great. But if you develop your skills, improve your physique, improve your ability to act/cut promos then you need to change your name and ring gear and lobby to go over most of the time. Then you can at least have a shot at maybe moving up to the next level. It's very complicated.
And yeah Scott Taylor was a jobber at heart before him & Christopher decided to form Too Much which became Too Cool & kind of got over with the fans finally as Scotty 2 Hotty.
This video isn't just best, this video isn't the greatest, this video.....
Is Justin Credible!
Fake is not a word that a genuine wrestler calls it😒😒😒😒
i really look forward to your videos!!!!!!! Informative, & educational. Thanks bud.
Awesome. Got lots of respect for ya PJ!
Much respect...
Well stated and good to know!
Excellent as always. Thank you
Aldo Montoya was one of my favorite wrestlers.
While jobbing is important, it can go badly, like with Jericho in his latest run. He came back talked a big game and just kept losing and ultimately the person he was working with really didn't benefit from it and Jericho's fans were all frustrated due to him coming off as incapable.
I think wwe needs to show more matches of nameless people who job so they don't continuously crush their built talent from some dumb lose to try to get someone else over, like both WWE and WCW used to.
WWE should bring Justin Credible back as a trainer and a utility player on the Main Roster. Christian was supposed to be that guy but he keeps getting hurt. PJ would be perfect in that role.
He's a guy who can teach these younger guys. Plus, teach these kids the art of the promo. Some of the best promo guys are the people who know who their character is. Jake Roberts, Bill Eadie (Masked Superstar, Demolition Ax), and so forth and Justin can teach that.
You are all class, Justin