Don't worry, B750 will be cheaper. The cost of this mobo is high because of ddr5 slot and overkill VRM. When both became normalize, it should be cheaper in next iteration
Even more sad that this “budget” motherboard costs €299 in my country and that is the cheapest ATX B650. You can get as “low” as €249 for an Asrock 650 But mATX form factor which I don’t like since I want to fit a sound card without choking the GPU of air. Especially since these budget boards don’t have good built in sound chips.
Hey. So you're the only one so far who's covered this motherboard. Just finished a build with it. Fractal Focus2 Solid, FSP PTM Pro 650W, 7700X, BeQuiet 240MM, G.Skill Flare X5 16GBx2@6000, pair of WD SN850 Gen4 2TBs in RAID1. One thing to note about this board -- the USB4 chips on the X670 boards are nearly a hundred bucks a piece, but Asus's ThunderboltEX4 for this motherboard can do 2 ports and 100W charging in exchange for taking up the X4-in-X16-slot position for the same as those more expensive boards; plus discrete minidp in ports that can be plumbed to an nvidia in the X16 slot, which I don't plan on for this rig. I've got a XFX RX6400 in the X16 slot, planning on seeing how well AMD's advertised hybrid graphics handoff in driver can do, but it's not going to live there permanantly. The B650 chip itself seems a bit too hot, so I'm currently trying to figure out how to rig another small fan in there pointed at it's odd little heatsink. I've yet to install windows on it, but Ubuntu 22.10 fired right up and I got 1080p60 smooth as butter without changing anything, before I installed the RX6400. 22.04 wouldn't boot. After the RX6400, 22.04 can deal with the two ports on the RX6400 card, but not the two on the I/O plate, as expected. (issues with linux-firmware's age in 22.04) Once I've finished my testing, this silent monolith is gonna get shipped up to my boss and probably won't be touched inside for 3-7 years, so it's built as robust as possible. 5+Ghz, 5000MB/sec+ DDR5, 5000MB/sec+ SSDs, this is about as far as I'll ever be able to reduce his progress bar waits with currently available tech, for the price. So far, I'm quite pleased with it. Now it remains to be seen if they'll be able to get a release bios out before I can ship this. If not, the bios flashback is the *MIDDLE* black USB2.0 port, NOT the topmost one. Hold the button for 3 seconds, and it blinkenlights away for ~3-4 minutes, then goes dark. Ready to punch the power button on the new build. There *is* an option in the menus to prevent version rollbacks; but it's disabled by default, and I'm not sure if the USB flashback is complex enough to honor that anyway. It's quite nice that the certificates that allow Ubuntu and Fedora Linux to Secure Boot have been included by Asus, and enabled by default. The board will not boot media with unsigned bootloaders without disabling that, but chances are you wouldn't be able to make them work properly on such a new CPU and GPU combination anyhow. Good luck to anyone else choosing this board, and running across this video.
@@majorpayne0195 Been a solid build so far. All I did was turn EXPO on to get DDR5-6000 enabled, and switch to the "pbo" profile in the top right corner of EZ-setup you land at after hitting delete, no need to play with any manual overclock option menus. It basically manages itself at that point. No need to install any windows OC management software, no need to worry about unexpected crashes. These chips have literally over a hundred thermal sensors in them across the dies. I did get the release bios version 0809 installed on it without issue. Afterwards, I grabbed a quick video of the iGPU performance at v=1AeMglnPJKk and was pretty impressed with what 128 shaders can do at the 'stock' GPU boost clocks bouncing between 2400Mhz and 2500Mhz. Typical CPU clocks were in 5.2-5.3Ghz with the little BeQuiet 240mm AIO, and hitting the expected 95C 'soft-limit' these chips self-impose unless you fiddle with the settings further. Pretty sure this specific chip would hit around 5.7Ghz on chilled water, and probably score a little north of 6Ghz on LN2. But that's the silicon lottery for you... either way, take the free performance from PBO, most of the downsides went away with AM3+. And get yourself a good memory kit with EXPO profiles -- it's not even "over"clocking anymore when these speeds are already what you're *marketed* and warrantied as getting stable performance with. Even AMD themselves has admitted the sweetspot is EXPO-6000 for the first four of the 7???X lineup. Any faster, and you start paying too much. Any slower and you lose out on the full price/performance benefit of what you're paying for, and that's half the reason to go team AMD in the first place, 92% of the competition's performance for 70% of the competition's price ;)
kinda late but you should also note the mobo's that integrate USB4 don't have the thunderbolt header, you can't upgrade those expensive boards to USB4 v2 (80Gbps) down the line
Its been 2 months since I built mine with a Ryzen700x and a 3060 and YES it gets the job done but in a "NO Frills" manner. After watching this video, I think I think I might return it and look into that Gigabyte...put that extended warranty to good use! Cheers from Texas!
Just bought this motherboard in sale £140 and Ryzen 7 from AliExpress £144 in sale and some 6000 ram £35 15 gig AliExpress again all working spot on just long boot up time funny when ram speed is in the middle default takes about 20 seconds to boot raise up the ram speed to 6000 then goes slower taking about 50 seconds to 🥾 strainge anyway very happy in general just need to get boot time quicker looking at UA-cam dictorials showing how to get speed down may help
Buy the way bought a 2000 gig SSD for £20 AliExpress seems to be working ok will keep you posted also cloned a copy of windows on another SSD just in case goes faulty
I’ve seen several tech youtubers being disappointed that there are no x1 slots on the motherboards, despite it has additional x16 slots, why is that? Dont the x16 slots fit whatever x1 cards you want to insert?
You mentioned the ASRock PG Lightning, so I went & looked its stats up. Based on the stat sheet at least, getting it over the Plus is a no-brainer. It has 14+2+1 power stages, three M.2 drives, and TWELVE usb ports on the back I/O.
I appreciate this review, I ended up buying this board after watching it. For me I do not care about the wifi, I am building this for an office PC and have no problem running a cat 5 cable. I am not going to install more than 1 m.2 drive let alone more than 2. I also absolutely will not buy gigabyte I just do not trust them after a few bad ones years ago.
Hi!! Thanks for this vid, super helpful. I'm planning on getting a 7 7700 X and a 3060 rtx gpu to go with this board for an animation + game art rig. You mentioned that it doesn't have WiFi, what part would I need to buy to upgrade this? (I'm new to pc building)
You'd need to buy a Key E WiFi card to plug into this motherboard. Alternatively, you can just use ethernet or get a motherboard that already has WiFi if either of those are an option.
One 8-pin EPS connector is all you need. There is no AM5 CPU on the market that wil draw more power from that connector than it can provide, unless you're doing the LN2 overcocking (which nobody would on this board). The 2nd EPS connector on consumer motherboards is a useless gimmick that only raises the price unneccessarily... The VRM is most likely 6+2+1, so 6 phases for the CPU. Not much but good enough. I don't know about the MOSFETs on the board, though. One thing I noticed about Asus mobos lately is that if a spec is weaker than you would expect for the money, they simply don't list it on front product page, they just skip it. For example, they don't specify the VRM phase count because it's low for that price. They don't specify the audio chip because it's ages old Realtek 897, etc. They do list that stuff on better equipped and more expensive boards... Other than that, it's an ok board, I guess? It has enough fan headers, it has BIOS Fashback, first M.2 slot is above the GPU and has a heatsing, you get a big PCIe slot as x4, which is nice (as long as you don't have a thickass GPU)...only 4 SATA ports, though. But there are better boards for same or slightly more money...
One of the reasons I went with that board is the optical audio port, so having the old realtek is actually good lol. Other manufacturers do not have optical anymore, and I like it because there's zero interference to my speakers
I've been looking at this asus board because it has some touches that other boards don't advertise. One feature is that if something goes wrong, the power led has a blinking pattern for a few different scenarios (no processor, no vga, and no boot drive). Also, it doesn't explicitly say so on newegg, but I think it has a "memory context restore" feature that helps reduce time spent on memory training after successive boots, but I would like someone to check my facts on that.
I am curious, because I am about to buy this motherboard, but you have m.2. ssd's WITH heatsinks and ones without. I wonder if an m.2. with heatsink wil fit there in the middle where you can put an PCI-E 5.0 drive? Any insights on that?
yeah, the heatsink that comes with the board can mount on either the upper or lower slot. The downside, there's only one heatsink. If you've gone for twin NVMEs in RAID1 as I did, then it looks a little silly. But even a WD SN850X doing ~7GB/sec can run without a heatsink in a typical ATX sized case with typical ATX-class airflow of ~50cfm. Also, to get the best thermal performance, you'll typically have to remove the label on the drive, which most manufacturers love putting directly across the surface of the chips. WD, at least, is willing to accept reaffixed labels as long as the label matches the drive (by serial#) -- so at least with them you can peel the label off the front and stick it on the empty backside surface, if you really want to keep temps down as low as possible with a heatsink. If you can aim a fan to get direct airflow across the chips, you'll find that typically works a lot better for m.2 cards than heatsinks with poor airflow. Those just end up soaking more heat and making things worse.
9+1 is imposssible with ASUS Boards... That looks like 4(x2)+2+1. And if its like the crap Intel B660/B760 with discrete MOSFETs I wager this board will have troubles with 170W TDP/230W PBO CPUs. An ASRock B650 PG Riptide looks better with at least DrMOS components and 4(x3) phases for VCore at the same price at least in europe.
Its kinda sad that "200$" is now "budget" :(
Don't worry, B750 will be cheaper. The cost of this mobo is high because of ddr5 slot and overkill VRM. When both became normalize, it should be cheaper in next iteration
@@boboboy8189 Not so sure about that. With 10% inflation this year and 10% next year, i dont think we will see those low prices again :(
Even more sad that this “budget” motherboard costs €299 in my country and that is the cheapest ATX B650. You can get as “low” as €249 for an Asrock 650 But mATX form factor which I don’t like since I want to fit a sound card without choking the GPU of air. Especially since these budget boards don’t have good built in sound chips.
@@wertywerrtyson5529 You could buy a cheap external soundcard, but yeah - those prices suck.
You tricked me i thought you were a girl from the thumbail
Sounds like you need to get your eyesight checked then.
Hey. So you're the only one so far who's covered this motherboard.
Just finished a build with it. Fractal Focus2 Solid, FSP PTM Pro 650W, 7700X, BeQuiet 240MM, G.Skill Flare X5 16GBx2@6000, pair of WD SN850 Gen4 2TBs in RAID1.
One thing to note about this board -- the USB4 chips on the X670 boards are nearly a hundred bucks a piece, but Asus's ThunderboltEX4 for this motherboard can do 2 ports and 100W charging in exchange for taking up the X4-in-X16-slot position for the same as those more expensive boards; plus discrete minidp in ports that can be plumbed to an nvidia in the X16 slot, which I don't plan on for this rig. I've got a XFX RX6400 in the X16 slot, planning on seeing how well AMD's advertised hybrid graphics handoff in driver can do, but it's not going to live there permanantly.
The B650 chip itself seems a bit too hot, so I'm currently trying to figure out how to rig another small fan in there pointed at it's odd little heatsink. I've yet to install windows on it, but Ubuntu 22.10 fired right up and I got 1080p60 smooth as butter without changing anything, before I installed the RX6400. 22.04 wouldn't boot. After the RX6400, 22.04 can deal with the two ports on the RX6400 card, but not the two on the I/O plate, as expected. (issues with linux-firmware's age in 22.04)
Once I've finished my testing, this silent monolith is gonna get shipped up to my boss and probably won't be touched inside for 3-7 years, so it's built as robust as possible.
5+Ghz, 5000MB/sec+ DDR5, 5000MB/sec+ SSDs, this is about as far as I'll ever be able to reduce his progress bar waits with currently available tech, for the price.
So far, I'm quite pleased with it. Now it remains to be seen if they'll be able to get a release bios out before I can ship this. If not, the bios flashback is the *MIDDLE* black USB2.0 port, NOT the topmost one. Hold the button for 3 seconds, and it blinkenlights away for ~3-4 minutes, then goes dark. Ready to punch the power button on the new build. There *is* an option in the menus to prevent version rollbacks; but it's disabled by default, and I'm not sure if the USB flashback is complex enough to honor that anyway. It's quite nice that the certificates that allow Ubuntu and Fedora Linux to Secure Boot have been included by Asus, and enabled by default. The board will not boot media with unsigned bootloaders without disabling that, but chances are you wouldn't be able to make them work properly on such a new CPU and GPU combination anyhow. Good luck to anyone else choosing this board, and running across this video.
I'm planning also to purchase this too with a 7700x. I'm not into Ocing that is why I'm ok with this motherboard.
@@majorpayne0195 Been a solid build so far. All I did was turn EXPO on to get DDR5-6000 enabled, and switch to the "pbo" profile in the top right corner of EZ-setup you land at after hitting delete, no need to play with any manual overclock option menus.
It basically manages itself at that point. No need to install any windows OC management software, no need to worry about unexpected crashes. These chips have literally over a hundred thermal sensors in them across the dies.
I did get the release bios version 0809 installed on it without issue.
Afterwards, I grabbed a quick video of the iGPU performance at v=1AeMglnPJKk and was pretty impressed with what 128 shaders can do at the 'stock' GPU boost clocks bouncing between 2400Mhz and 2500Mhz.
Typical CPU clocks were in 5.2-5.3Ghz with the little BeQuiet 240mm AIO, and hitting the expected 95C 'soft-limit' these chips self-impose unless you fiddle with the settings further.
Pretty sure this specific chip would hit around 5.7Ghz on chilled water, and probably score a little north of 6Ghz on LN2. But that's the silicon lottery for you... either way, take the free performance from PBO, most of the downsides went away with AM3+.
And get yourself a good memory kit with EXPO profiles -- it's not even "over"clocking anymore when these speeds are already what you're *marketed* and warrantied as getting stable performance with. Even AMD themselves has admitted the sweetspot is EXPO-6000 for the first four of the 7???X lineup. Any faster, and you start paying too much. Any slower and you lose out on the full price/performance benefit of what you're paying for, and that's half the reason to go team AMD in the first place, 92% of the competition's performance for 70% of the competition's price ;)
kinda late but you should also note the mobo's that integrate USB4 don't have the thunderbolt header, you can't upgrade those expensive boards to USB4 v2 (80Gbps) down the line
Does the expo profile work with your
6000 mhz gskill?
I miss €60 motherboards
Its been 2 months since I built mine with a Ryzen700x and a 3060 and YES it gets the job done but in a "NO Frills" manner. After watching this video, I think I think I might return it and look into that Gigabyte...put that extended warranty to good use! Cheers from Texas!
I've got this MOBO, thanks to your review. Thank you ! Salutations from Romania ! P.S. Haven't put it to work, yet, gathering money for my CPU.
Just bought this motherboard in sale £140 and Ryzen 7 from AliExpress £144 in sale and some 6000 ram £35 15 gig AliExpress again all working spot on just long boot up time funny when ram speed is in the middle default takes about 20 seconds to boot raise up the ram speed to 6000 then goes slower taking about 50 seconds to 🥾 strainge anyway very happy in general just need to get boot time quicker looking at UA-cam dictorials showing how to get speed down may help
Buy the way bought a 2000 gig SSD for £20 AliExpress seems to be working ok will keep you posted also cloned a copy of windows on another SSD just in case goes faulty
I’ve seen several tech youtubers being disappointed that there are no x1 slots on the motherboards, despite it has additional x16 slots, why is that? Dont the x16 slots fit whatever x1 cards you want to insert?
Just used this mobo in my most recent build. Any Wifi & Bluetooth antennas that would be compatible with this board and not be overly expensive?
You mentioned the ASRock PG Lightning, so I went & looked its stats up. Based on the stat sheet at least, getting it over the Plus is a no-brainer. It has 14+2+1 power stages, three M.2 drives, and TWELVE usb ports on the back I/O.
But Asrock already said the boot time is 2 minutes.....
@@boboboy8189 was fixed with a BIOS update.
Yes and it has 8-layers compared to 6-layers.
why having so many stuff on a board that you most likely will NEVER need?
That board is 212€ more expensive than the asus, overpriced as hell
I appreciate this review, I ended up buying this board after watching it. For me I do not care about the wifi, I am building this for an office PC and have no problem running a cat 5 cable. I am not going to install more than 1 m.2 drive let alone more than 2. I also absolutely will not buy gigabyte I just do not trust them after a few bad ones years ago.
Hi!! Thanks for this vid, super helpful. I'm planning on getting a 7 7700 X and a 3060 rtx gpu to go with this board for an animation + game art rig. You mentioned that it doesn't have WiFi, what part would I need to buy to upgrade this? (I'm new to pc building)
You'd need to buy a Key E WiFi card to plug into this motherboard. Alternatively, you can just use ethernet or get a motherboard that already has WiFi if either of those are an option.
@@avrona Ok, cool thanks!
One 8-pin EPS connector is all you need. There is no AM5 CPU on the market that wil draw more power from that connector than it can provide, unless you're doing the LN2 overcocking (which nobody would on this board). The 2nd EPS connector on consumer motherboards is a useless gimmick that only raises the price unneccessarily...
The VRM is most likely 6+2+1, so 6 phases for the CPU. Not much but good enough. I don't know about the MOSFETs on the board, though.
One thing I noticed about Asus mobos lately is that if a spec is weaker than you would expect for the money, they simply don't list it on front product page, they just skip it. For example, they don't specify the VRM phase count because it's low for that price. They don't specify the audio chip because it's ages old Realtek 897, etc. They do list that stuff on better equipped and more expensive boards...
Other than that, it's an ok board, I guess? It has enough fan headers, it has BIOS Fashback, first M.2 slot is above the GPU and has a heatsing, you get a big PCIe slot as x4, which is nice (as long as you don't have a thickass GPU)...only 4 SATA ports, though. But there are better boards for same or slightly more money...
One of the reasons I went with that board is the optical audio port, so having the old realtek is actually good lol. Other manufacturers do not have optical anymore, and I like it because there's zero interference to my speakers
It doesnt have wifi right? So can i use ethernet with the motherboard? Or?
Yeah, you can. Any motherboard with a ethernet connector on the back will work with ethernet.
Where is the bios usb port on this motherboard
I've been looking at this asus board because it has some touches that other boards don't advertise. One feature is that if something goes wrong, the power led has a blinking pattern for a few different scenarios (no processor, no vga, and no boot drive). Also, it doesn't explicitly say so on newegg, but I think it has a "memory context restore" feature that helps reduce time spent on memory training after successive boots, but I would like someone to check my facts on that.
I am curious, because I am about to buy this motherboard, but you have m.2. ssd's WITH heatsinks and ones without. I wonder if an m.2. with heatsink wil fit there in the middle where you can put an PCI-E 5.0 drive? Any insights on that?
yeah, the heatsink that comes with the board can mount on either the upper or lower slot. The downside, there's only one heatsink. If you've gone for twin NVMEs in RAID1 as I did, then it looks a little silly. But even a WD SN850X doing ~7GB/sec can run without a heatsink in a typical ATX sized case with typical ATX-class airflow of ~50cfm. Also, to get the best thermal performance, you'll typically have to remove the label on the drive, which most manufacturers love putting directly across the surface of the chips. WD, at least, is willing to accept reaffixed labels as long as the label matches the drive (by serial#) -- so at least with them you can peel the label off the front and stick it on the empty backside surface, if you really want to keep temps down as low as possible with a heatsink. If you can aim a fan to get direct airflow across the chips, you'll find that typically works a lot better for m.2 cards than heatsinks with poor airflow. Those just end up soaking more heat and making things worse.
@@SLLabsKamilion True, I have two Samsung Pro M.2. Nvme ssd's with heatsink, and both do fit.
Take it out before installing
Here thar mb doesnt support 6400 :( I have to lock in 6000... is it for someone else? =(
does this have 2 ssd slots ore 1 ?
hi on this motherboard is working ryzen 9 cpu? or just ryzen 7? thanks
Works on all Ryzen 7000 series CPUs, 3, 5, 7, and 9.
@@avrona thanks
I’ve seen how it’s not great cuz it gets really hot
do u think on this board ddr5 ram with 7200 can handle it? / official is 6400+ (oc)
Make on vid about ASRock B650 pg lighting
You should make a video comparing them in one. Then say top 2-3😊
Do you want me to pay more for my motherboard then my gpu?
I had so many issues with this board personally.
hello, i'm planning to grab one.
can you please describe your experience?
thank you
more details please.
i dont really have any issues, may you tell me what issues?
9+1 is imposssible with ASUS Boards...
That looks like 4(x2)+2+1. And if its like the crap Intel B660/B760 with discrete MOSFETs I wager this board will have troubles with 170W TDP/230W PBO CPUs. An ASRock B650 PG Riptide looks better with at least DrMOS components and 4(x3) phases for VCore at the same price at least in europe.