First Light DATA Share - The NEW Player One Uranus-C Pro & Ares-M Pro
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2023
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Thanks, Luke for the side-by-side examples. I always pick up something new from your videos. Keep them coming.
Glad you like them mate! I really appreciate the kind comment! :-) Clear skies!
Beautiful results Luke. I really like how you master your workflow so effectively. A big hug.
Thank you so much 😀 It's always a pleasure to hear from you my friend! I hope you and your family are keeping happy and healthy! :-)
Clear skies!
Great video as always man! I really like these processing-style video. It helps a lot to see the original data and then see what you would do with it to get it to a final state. I'm extremely impressed with the performance of the color camera and am super excited for the moment when I click that order button. Also... how dare you make me want to spend my hard earned money on Pixinsite lol I'm sat here fiddling away with Siril, GIMP, Darktable, and Astrosharp to even get close to the power of that program. Anyway, clear skies! Always looking forward to another video!
Thanks so much mate!! :-D I'm really glad the vids are a hit with you, that's awesome to hear!
I'm confident you'll love the cam if you do end up getting one my friend, it's been a ton of fun so far for me :-)
Clear skies!!
Hey Luke! Now that I have ventured into the world of mono, this will be very helpful when I start processing my images. These new camera are truly something special and Player One as done an excellent job with this. Thanks for doing another great post processing video! Clear Skies!
Thanks so much Dave mate, as always!! :-D great work on your first foray into mono by the way! 👍👍
Wonderful, love the Observatory, great vid, cemented my acquisition of the Uranus C, thank you!
Thank you!! :-D so glad you're settled on the Uranus-C, it's a superb camera! Congratulations :-)
Well done Luke Amazing for such short integration time !!!
Much appreciated my friend!! Can't wait to test on a bigger project hopefully 👍👍
Excellent images from both cameras Luke and your editing skill is brilliant mate
Thank you so much 😀 you're too kind mate!
Excellent. Thank you for providing us with the data again, this will keep me occupied this coming week. I'm more of a mono imager these days but have to say the OSC image looks great, the RASA really does soak up the photons🙂
Glad to help you mate! :-) It's not much data overall but it's the best I could muster given the weather haha, hope you have some fun with it mate! :-) Clear skies!!
Most awaited. Thanks.
Most welcome! Thank you mate!
Wow Luke,
That OSC final image is awesome. I didn't know you could make an SHO image LIKE THAT from a OSC camera. Thanks for the tutorial
Hey there Pat!! :-D I'm glad you enjoyed seeing my methods mate! it's a pretty cool way to transform the look of an image!! 👍👍
As always, I hope you are doing excellent my friend!
Hands down, you have one of the best Astro channels on UA-cam.
Wow, thank you so much my friend!! :-D That's really kind of you to say!
Clear skies!
Definitely. I could say lukomotico is in top of line 3-4 channels.
What amaze me how some other astro channels got 400-600K subscribers. I will not name channels, but their info is either trivial or incorrect, but they still get 400-600K subscribers.
@@anata5127 Aw, you're too kind! Thank you for your supportive message, it means a lot! 🙏
@@lukomatico Here is interesting story. I struggled with SCT collimation. Watched zillion UA-cam “tutorials”, perfectly replicated and scopes did not keep collimation at all. I even blasted Celestron for crap product. Send back scope, they fixed it and told “only problem was collimation”.
I used it for 4-5 months without problem, then collimating was again needed. And again following tutorials and nothing works. Eventually, I called Celestron and talk to top tech. He explained me how it is done, and I never looked back.
Amazingly, every tutorial on collimation on You Tube was partially or totally incorrect. There are some other examples. Luka, there really are only handful proper astro channels on UA-cam. Others are pure wannabes or even fr****.
Looking good mate that Uranus C camera is a belter I'm liking it a lot. Gotta love the RASA's for hoovering up all those lovely photons to, clear skies!!
Cheers mate, as always!! :-D I'm thinking the RASA & Uranus-C Pro combo is a match made in heaven at the moment! Loving it!
Another great tutorial Luke👍 I’m loving this camera mate! Good to see a very capable alternative to the other red one 🤣 Clear skies Luke!
Thank you Simon!! :-D the more competition the better hey! That's what we like to see 👍👍 hope you're keeping superb mate!
Thanks, Luke! Wanted to check the shapes of the stars on the Uranus-C PRO OSC. The shapes were great, and no vibration from the camera fan seems to happen there. So, I am off buying this camera. Will be my first cooled camera (after so much time!). Cheers, mate!
Glad it helped you my friend! :-D Definitely think you're going to enjoy it a whole lot!! Congratulations by the way, enjoy yourself!
Clear skies :-)
Just ordered a Uranus-C Pro. Looks like a great camera and a good companion for my old ASI1600mm cool
Me too! Still love my 1600m, in spite of its limitations!
The 1600mm is such a great camera still! :-)
Clear skies mate!
Congratulations on your new camera by the way!! :-D
Great video again, thanks! The Uranus-C pro looks great for my budget and scope. Does it need an IR/cut filter when using as is, or is it built in?
Hey there mate! It does indeed need using with a UV/ir cut filter for standard broadband imaging, it's using an anti reflection clear glass one at the moment!
Can't believe I forgot that in the video haha, sorry!
Fantastic OSC...!
It really is great mate! love the thing :-) Clear skies!
Hello!! I am so excited to see my next (and first) deep sky camera, Ares-C Pro! And just about this I wanted to ask, how long did it take to get home after buying it? because it's been a week since I bought it but I haven't received any news.
Hey mate! - usually when I've had stuff delivered it takes about 7-ish working days, but it can vary depending on courier delays too - I'd not overly worry, I'm sure you'll be enjoying your camera shortly! :-) Congratulations and clear skies my friend!
Hi Luke, The NB data are marvelous. I downloaded the data package and just finished emulating your NB example. Very impressive.
I have one question if I may.
Why did you use such a large offset for the mono camera? And did it make any difference? I typically use an offset of 70 for my ASI 533MM Pro with 120 sec exposures. So I am amazed that you seem to be throwing away a lot of dynamic range. What am I missing here?
Hey there Ian! So happy you liked the data my friend :-) re: the seemingly high offset, I did a quick test to determine the offset value in my first video on the cam, it may seem like a huge number but it's really not much offset in reality - hope that explains it! (I raised the issue of it seemingly needing large offset values with player one who are looking into it)
Very good review of these cameras' capabilities, Luke. Which filter and telescope did you use for the Ares-M?
Thanks my friend! :-) I used the Skywatcher Quattro 8s and astronomik 6nm filters, all the capture info is in the download file if you need it mate 👍 cheers!
Nice work Luke I’d like to see the 533 against a qhy or zwo 533 to see if there is a noticeable difference as the player one states deeper well depth just to see if it gives better or same results , same target same settings , currently use the zwo533mc amazing camera toying with going 533 mono
That'd be cool mate yeah, unfortunately though I don't have any other version of the 533 to test against! My apologies for the letdown
Great video (again) Luke. You aren't even shamelessly plugging the RC-tools. They really are as great as you say they are.
I was blown away when BlurX managed to correct stars on a severely undersampled, non-drizzled integration with stretched, tilted stars in one corner I had given up on.
Thank you for that mate!! They really are so darn good, I really wouldn't ever want to go back to how it was before - I'm just having more fun than ever thanks to these tools! :-)
Clear skies!!
Great video Luke, Did you use any Dark frames with the Uranus-C Pro?
No darks, flats, bias or anything - just lights for both cameras my friend! :-) cheers!
@@lukomatico Wow that's great , thanks for replying, waiting for mine to show up.
Thanks for your great videos!
Can you please take some OSC images from the 585 camera and integrate in some Luminance from the 533 Mono? Since the sensors are quite different is this even possible?
On the fence concerning the Ares-M because I just bought a 585 from Rising Cam. If I can integrate in some L to my 585 OSC I ca talk myself into the purchase. Thanks! David Diaz
Hey David! - you could certainly do that kind of thing, the fields of view won't be a perfect match of course but all the same, you'll have a usable overlap.
The best way would be to make the two separate masters and align them in PixInsight with DynamicAlignment, - you could then pull out the RGB and use it in an LRGB combination.
Hope that helps!
Great results Luke, just goes to show, in the right hands, you don't need a millions dollars worth of equipment to produce stellar results.
Much appreciated mate, thank you!!
Luke would you recommend the Uranus_C Pro over the uncooled version? I do mostly deep sky but will work on planetary :) Love your videos!
I would mate yeah, it's definitely worth the extra money if it's a fit for your budget 👍
Thanks so much for the kind comment!
Great tutorial! What computer are using? Your Processing with PixInsight is fast!
Thanks mate!
I have a Ryzen 9 5900x, rtx4070ti, 32gb ram 👍
Beautiful man!!!! I need a RASA😅🤣
Haha!! Thanks so much mate!! :-D
Was the Antelia dualband filter defective producing the halos in the OSC image? Other than the halos, the OSC appears to be just as good as the Mono results.
Thanks John! - I don't believe the filter is defective as it seems to perform very similarly to Cuiv the Lazy Geek's sample! probably just not as good at halo control as the non-f2 version I guess!
Cheers for watching mate :-)
Damn that are some amazing pictures with such short integration time. Looking to upgrade from my Nikon D5600 to astro camera. I was thinking off the Ares-C pro. Would that be a good choice? Or would the Uranus-C pro be better? I have the skywatcher 150p Quattro with coma corrector and Optolong L-pro and L-eNhance filters
Thanks so much mate!! If it was my choice, I'd say get the Uranus-C Pro as it's slightly more versatile I think, and keep your 5600 too for wider shots if you can! :-D
That 585 is a beautiful sensor 👍
@@lukomatico I will definitely keep my Nikon for the wide field shots 😀 thx for the fast reply and keep up the good work. I learned a lot from your videos. Clear skies
Opinion and advice needed
I have the evostar 72ed, and it performs well.
I am selling it and thinking it to upgrade to a 6-inch f6 newtonian, and I will be using it with a dslr and a cooled camera at times for galaxies and small
Nebulae.
The ioptron cem 25p will carry it.
Should I upgrade it ??
Or any other recommendations
Hey there mate! I think it's a good plan if you generally don't image during windy conditions, otherwise it could be very difficult to adequately guide the scope and get the resolution you're looking for 👍
Good luck!
You're not alone, Luke. I get the same halos around stars when using the ALP-T (at f/4).
Thanks so much for the info mate!! I appreciate you taking the time to let me know 👍👍
Clear skies my friend
@@lukomatico If you do find a multi-narrowband filter that doesn't yield halos, I think a lot of us L-Extreme / ALP-T owners would love to hear about it. If anyone can do it, it's you, Luke! 😊 (alternatively, you could badger Yannick into doing some tests with his fancy French spectrograph 😂 ).
I'll keep my eye out haha! - I did test the Player One Anti-Halo Pro filter a little while back and that had zero halos though - but, it's pretty expensive! (and isn't suitable for really fast systems) Clear skies mate!
@@lukomatico with my 533 and Samyang 135mm lens I get these halos when using Optolong L Extreme, but if I stack it with my Baader UV/IR it completely prevents the halos, I believe its because most of these dual narrowband filters have IR leaks.
Hi Luke. Great and inspiring video. I indeed would like to buy a dedicated Astro cam. What do you suggest between Uranus-C Pro and the same sensor camera from Touptek? The latter has an HDR mode with really low noise and 14 stops (at least from the analysis from Cuiv).
Thanks.
Hey mate! I'd probably say go for whichever will be easiest to buy & support really! The only other main consideration is driver suite maturity, player one drivers have been faultless for me - I haven't tried touptek so can't say if they are the same, but if Cuiv says it's good then it'll be good! :-)
@@lukomatico ok. Really thanks a lot again!
Just another question (you’re so quick in responding so I dare to ask). I would like your advice in this. Considering that I’m imaging from my balcony and that I have just 3 hours per subject/night, what would you suggest: mono or osc? Thanks in advance.
Sorry about the late reply mate! - I would probably recommend OSC in that scenario! :-) Hope that helps!
To me, the Uranus-C gives a superior image. Perhaps it's the smaller pixels being able to resolve finer detail.
Thanks so much for the feedback mate! - I'm really happy with both for sure, so nice to have these cameras to use and test! :-) Clear skies!
great job, mate! did you do a comparison with the standard uranus c?
I've not done that yet mate! Struggling for clear skies to be honest 😂
Cheers!
Hi Luke. Sorry for coming to you with another request. As for the Uranus-C Pro camera which are the gain/offset values you used? An which is the typical exposure time for shooting flats? Or in other words to which a ADU are you aiming at?
Thanks a lot!
Hey mate! Typically I'm using resin 210 offset 100 if I recall correctly, and for flats it partly depends on the scope but around 50-60% for the main bulk of the histogram is good! :-)
Hi Luke, how big of a quality difference did you notice between the Uranus-c and Uranus-c pro? Any chance of seeing a side by side comparison? About to purchase my first dedicated astro camera. Also, how would the Uranus-c non cooled compare to a modded crop sensor mirrorless camera?
Hey mate!
There's not a huge difference in noise between the cooled and uncooled Uranus in generally cool nighttime conditions - but in the hotter months, a larger difference emerges.
Re: comparison to a modded aps/c cam, I have a modded 700D and I'd say the Uranus is about 2x as sensitive, but it is also much smaller of course!
If budget allows, I'd go for the cooled Uranus-C every time over the uncooled, better overall and far improved tilt plate design 👍
Good luck and merry Christmas!
@@lukomatico Cheers. Where I live in western Australia it is generally dry and hot, 40c 104f today around 30c overnight. So I think the cooled is the way. Now deciding between the Uranus and Ares cooled.
Also these sensors are not uv/ir coated are they? so will most likely order the kit with the filter drawer and fhd-oag. Maybe guide camera as well to go with it.
Just picked up my HEQ5i and it comes with a basic 420mm scope + I have some camera lenses from 15mm to 500mm to play with.
Do you really need the cooled version of this camera for deep space or can you use the uncooled one ?
The uncooled one does work great still! But if you can get the cooled version there's no downside to doing so, it will perform a little better!
I might get the ares-c!
Awesome mate!! It's a great camera 👍
OFF TOPIC: Ya' know, at a passing glance, you could pass for a young Ridley Scott.
Haha!! Thanks.. I think? 😂😁
No insult. He's one of my favorite Directors!
@@ErikStitt Ah right! Well thank you very much mate, haha! :-D
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hello luke , whats your gain on the color photo ?
Hey mate! It was taken at gain 200 👍
@@lukomatico thx m8
😢😢 I bought a one shot model ok 👍 but? I stood in front of the USB cable dilemma!! It is not at all similar to the ZWO.. I hope there is an explanation of how to install the cable,, Thanks man
Hey mate! - sorry about the late reply, I hope you've figured it out now and haven't been sat waiting! everything you need to hook the camera up via usb is in the box :-) usb A to usb C is the generally used connection.
Power supply needs to be purchased separately.
Good luck!
My Uranus C Pro arrived today. One thing I will say is, it's built well!
Have to use the Sharpcap Beta currently to get cooling to work.
It's raining here though, so not chance to actually try it out.
Awesome mate!! - huge congratulations on getting such a great cam, it's a really great bit of kit! :-)
Hope you get the chance to test under clear skies soon!
After watching this video, I bought the Uranus C pro. I tried it once with a gain of 220 and offset of 50. I was disappointed with the result. The image lacked contrast and looked washed out when compared to the same integration time on the same object with an IMX571 sensor. Anyone else got a similar result? 🤔
I'm sorry to hear you were disappointed my friend! - I'd say if you were testing it on the same scope as the IMX571 then you'd likely need slightly longer exposures to match the integrations well, due to the physically smaller 2.9um pixels on the Uranus gathering less light than the larger 3.76um pixels of the 571 🙂
Those smaller pixels sample more finely on a given system though of course, so even though in a direct comparison the sensitivity may appear lower, the detail that can be resolved on a good night would be higher.
I've been really impressed by how the Uranus performs in comparison to the 571! :-D
@@lukomatico Same scope with bortle1 sky at 15% relative humidity. Couldn't have been better conditions. They claim 90% sensitivity, does this number need to be divided by the inverse of pixel size? Makes little sense to me I was getting such a difference in the images.
@@hael8680I think your offset is too high. I live in a Bortle 1 area and keep my offset to just 10 on the Uranus-C. I haven't updated the firmware and am still using it at the 180=unity gain, which I find works very well. As they say, if it ain't broke don't fix it, so I stick with what I know works.
@@hael8680 You might also consider which filter you are using. I am getting superb results with the ZWO duoband. Bear in mind the Uranuc-C sensor is fairly IR sensitive, too.