CHEAP vs EXPENSIVE RC Car Electronics!
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Today we find out how well a Cheap rc motor will compare to an expensive rc car motor!
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I run that Rocket motor on 6s with a Hobbywing ESC and it's been a real treat.
Great vid Matt. Lookin good dude! Excited to see more limitless stuff
Yo what's up Mike! 😊 yeah dude, plenty of plans with the limitless but probably not as crazy as your speeds haha
I have rocket 4274 2000kv in arrma felony 6s, and have a lot of power 😎
Brilliant bro, nice setup 👌
Same motor with max 8 in my limitless. 22 pinion and 34 spur and hit 87mph. Ran out of range, so maybe 95mph on that gearing.
Now I have scorched rc rear driveshaft. Did not trust the stock to stay in place. Now I can try 27 pinion and 34 spur.
Great information on both systems really love the channel, mate thanks for putting out this comparison really appreciate it. It's really helpful for us all in the rc car hobby especially for me l am just getting back into the hobby again subscribed 👍
Straight up epic Matt💯💥
Can’t wait for part 2💥💥💥✅
100% bro! Keen to see 👀
Thanks for another great video!!! Love your enthusiasm for our favorite pastime.
Much appreciated dude 🙏
Cool comparison 🔥
Thanks
If the kv is the same on both motors, you can assume the speed would be the same since kv x voltage is the RPM. I have found no advantage to expensive branded motors although it is worth getting a half decent esc. Hobbywing is as good as any more expensive option imo
I agree, however, I could be wrong, but if the motor magnets are stronger, it should have more torque, allowing that motor (although having the same KV) to gear up much further without over heating and therefore, achieving a greater speed.
But, I have not tested this, I hope to soon 😀
Agree. I have a castle 6s monster mamba on a 4s surpass can motor. It's a beast on my big rock.
Very interesting video mate 👌love it
Hey cheers bro! 🍻
Absolutely epic! Love to see these comparisons as sometimes the real cheap Stuff can really surprise you! I for sure was not expecting that result! Maybe in a future video you could try the hobbywing 1650kv combo vs the castle 1650kv combo 👍
I too wasn't expecting those results, I for sure thought the castle would be faster. It seemed to have more torque, but the same speed
Hey new Subscriber. I like 👍 this video.
Hey thanks dude ☺️
Cool idea)))
That's currently my set up on my RC , it's budget build and work just fine with 4s.
A great setup! I find 4s to be rather fun for basher around, plenty of power and it doesn't get too hot
@@MatthewSimm yeah it is, surpass rocket definitely way better than Goolrc and etc ,I haven't got any issues with overheat eventhough I'm in tropical country,😊👍 btw can't wait for WL toys set up soon!
@@fitfiz I have heat issues here in Australia too haha, not too bad right now because it's winter at this time.
Rkaarlo speed run challenge 😉
Great video!
🔥Your Awesome Matt!!! You are doing so well! Every time I check in, your channel just keeps growing! I knew you were going to be successful! Proud of you brother!!! 👊🏆👍💯
Appreciate it bro! 🙏 you seem to be doing well too!
OK, you make a very valid point re: bang for the buck. Also, for most hobbyists, the cheaper equipment will work fine. HOWEVER, your video doesn't tell the whole story, or why someone would want to buy the Castle Creations motor. It comes down to build quality, what the motor is ultimately capable of, and probably longevity. What I mean by this (amongst other things) specifically is the RPM limits of the motor. The CC Mamba series are ALL capable of 100,000 maximum RPM. The Surpass motors on the other hand are limited to 50,000 RPM with some exceptions. Their 9000kv motor has a max of 70,000 RPM for example.
Another difference is that the Mamba ESCs are built with a cap pack (at least mine does), whereas I don't see them on the Surpass ESCs. What that does is to smooth out ripple voltage, or a series of spikes in voltage as the vehicle draws more power. The ripple voltage is another element that can destroy your ESC over time.
I know you've been doing speed runs with a quest to break 100 mph. Same here... When you're talking about such extremes is the reason why you would want to consider the more expensive motor as that difference in RPM capability with the proper gearing could mean the difference of hitting your goal and having the motor survive or not.
Oh course dude I fully agree. The video was far from in depth but rather a look at what possible with cheaper electronics with more to come.
I personally don't think that everyone is going for the highest of speeds possible, but most will probably want between 100-150mph out of their rig, at least to start off and what a great way to do so than with a cheap setup.
With castle, you definitely need to know what you're doing, especially going for those extreme speeds and pushing the limits of the system.
I'll be the first to admit I'm not a pro and do not have a full understanding of speed runs, it's more just for fun for me but I'd love to learn more, for now, I'll stick to trying to keep it in a straight line hahaha 😆
I really rate those rocket motors ! I've had a 4092 can in my Kraton for a while and it's a beast! Also had a 1/5 scale 900kv rocket motor in my X maxx with a max5 and again no problems at all! Just plenty of power and reliable! Great video doooood 👍🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I thought about trying out the bigger cans in the xmaxx
Brilliant video matt can't wait for the video 😀I think you'll looking at 100mph plus I think with a bigger pinion gear and smaller spur gear easily 😀😉
Dual motor limitless next please 🙏🙂
That would be fun!
great video 👍🏾
Appreciate it
Nice way of breaking this down to dollars per mph! Great video bro!😂😊🍻
Hey thanks bro 😀
Nice video bro. It would’ve been nice to see some temperatures as well. Maybe in the next one 👍
100% next time bro, thanks for the suggestion 🙏
Bro thanks for doing this video! I haven't watched the video yet but I was just looking up if all 2845, motors are the same. Like what is the merit of getting name brand. You're the man!
No worries bro! In my personal opinion, if you want the best, you will pay to get it, however, it can be diminishing returns, depending what your plan is for it!
@@MatthewSimm from my limited research it seems like the best place to start, especially on a budget RC, is the ESC. The Rlaarlo 006 hit 78 MPH with only the ESC being changed out (stock 2847 motor and gearing) and that sounds like way more speed than I'd ever need!
BRO!! A massive thanks For this Vid and for the shout out! As usual awesome content. 🤙
No worries bro! Thanks for the connectors man, I love them black xt90s they go so well with any build!
@@MatthewSimm a lot of people like the all black :-D I have black n grey xt60 now too :)
Excellent comparison Matty, I've used the Surpass hobby esc's and motors in everything from crawlers to my speed run 144001's and rate them very highly. The price point for such quality is fantastic!!
The rocket fans are something else too, pump so much air it's ridiculous lol.
The castle systems I've never run but there's plenty of vids of them on fire and desoldering themselves lol.
There's a website that links esc's to the generic Traxxas and Spektrum ESC's and Traxxas uses a few castle systems.. no wonder why so many catch fire..Though I've never had an issue with any of mine.
Spektrum are Hobbywing (win win!!)
Yes the Arrma 1/7th scale onroads are by far on another level...there's a reason why the top speed run guys use them.
They are definitely some of the best value for money, I'd love to do a budget comparison with more brands! Good idea?
Castle is really good and no doubt I'm sure they've had their issues, none for me personally (thankfully haha) but if you are looking to push every mile from your rc car and run some silly power setups, then castle is definitely the way to go but I highly recommend knowing what to do haha
@@MatthewSimm I think a budget comparison would be great!! Very true some of these speed guys push massive amps through their setups. Definitely leads to better batteries too!
HI buddy nice comparison iv been running surpass motors for years now in all my RC cars including my wltoys 141019 will a surpass 3660 3650 kv and have never had one fail yet top motors grait to see we can get them in Australia instead of china as always buddy your video's are awesome cheers 👍👏👌
Nice bro! I'll definitely be doing nore with them, especially speed running on a budget
Hi Mathew,
When will you be running the surpass hobby motor and esc on 6s? I just came across the video and now I want to buy one for my Arrma felony. Hoping for 100mph without spending a huge amount. I love your videos man!
Hopefully I can get it soon before summer as it is bloody hot during summer here in SA
Hey bro! 👋
I do plan on running that very soon!
I'd say in the next few weeks, I've just been flat out with life in general haha 😄
@@MatthewSimm understandable haha.
Thanks so much man! I can’t wait! 😀
Too easy cheers 🍻
Bro that was cool as surprised the cops didn't nab you they pick on everyone in Victoria how good was that shot catching the moving car awesome video bro 👊💯
Yo thanks man! I honestly thought they would come and complain but, it's a small town, they are not as harsh as some city police haha.
See if you can con them into racing you tell them something like it's about being better police in the eyes of the community or you could full outlaw mode
nice 👍
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I've got s X01 .. ABOUT 1/2 ELETRONICS ARE AFTERMARKET PERFORMANCE PARTS .........
I'M PUTTING 16S 28,000 MAH LIPO IN IT ......
CAN YOU GUESS HOW FASTBIT WILL HIT ABOUT ?????
Man, that crazy! I wouldn't even know what to expect man, it'll all depend on your gearing, setup etc.. but I hope it's fast bro, it sounds wicked
Can you please put the SurpassHobby part numbers in the description (including kV)?
I'm running the Rocket 4076 with 1700kV in the Traxxas Sledge, combined with a HobbyWing Max6 (M2C Racing motor and ESC mount). The Traxxas XMAXX is running with Max5 and a Rocket 5962 in 980kV version (M2C Racing motor and ESC mount too). Paid 127 AUD for the 5962 and 92 AUD for the 4076 (living in germany and ordered at Banggood).
The motors are a great value, but the ESC's need some further development. Go with HobbyWing and combine with SurpassHobby Motor => best value for the buck.
im running Surpass ESCs in 3 trucks, never had an issue. if you get the program card you can tune it to better suit your vehicle too. Hobbywing hass been my go-to for years, but Surpass is what i recommend for anyone thats looking to save a bit of money without sacrificing performance ;)
That combo was the 4076 1700kv with their 120a ESC. They don't really have part numbers, just motor dimensions and KV.
The USD against AUD has taken a BEATING. Hence being a little bit more than they used to. I sell them for very near what you can get from China. So, local shipping, supporting a fellow Aussie and they're very decent qaulity, from our testing.
Obviously it isn't as big of a motor as that hobbywing, but I just sent Matt what I had and he's made a video with what he has!
If you have any questions, feel free to message me :)
Cheers, Cameron.
loner one means lot of Torque I guess
I will stick with my 14001 same ssme speed
Hello from southeast alaska how's it going today bro
Hey dude! 👋 I'm well, yourself?
@@MatthewSimm doing good getting ready to go fishing
Do not buy the cheapest unless you know what you are getting. Surpass motors have a great reputation. So do your homework everyone. If you are going to spend money, consider investing in a sensored system. You have better responsiveness and feel at low RPM which makes for a more quality experience without all the cogging. A used sensored system is better value than a new cheap sensor less combo (if working well)
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Hey Emily, how are you?
what’s this test supposed to be? it’s a kv test?! you can only see how good something is if you use it to maximum load. so 8s and gear it up…
Just a bit of fun, nothing scientific haha 😄