Im curious to know if the buying of Ithaca holdings could affect the storyline since I could very well see Ariana and demi being involved in this huge universe. It be really cool but I do wanna know your thoughts.
@@theskeptic777 Ithaca Holdings don't really have an effect on what BTS does. But the artists are free to work together if they want to :) I'm sure the BU storyline won't change much with BTS and I don't think Justin, Ariana, or Demi would be involved with it.
maybe positive thoughts (or memories), because: 1 because the lyrics of that part are positive. (laina also talked about stay gold, and actually thats a postive song, its like a positive thought(?) 2 Yellow is actually a very bright color (and bright things normally are used for positive things (or situations)). (srry if my english is bad, it aint my first language).
WAIT! Since Kai can walk on the sky, does that mean he can totally just walk to different time loops and doors? Also once you brought up Magic Island I just remembered I totally forgot about the Magic Shop when they made transactions and I'm wondering if it'll ever come back again in future mvs or something. Also I'm just forever traumatized by pineapples thanks to TXT T-T And because of that my brain just linked up the gold or yellow light color with pineapples-
TRAUMATIZED BY PINEAPPLES 😭😭😭 And yeah I’ve been wondering if it’ll come back in the same format but I think it implied that they would rather think of their items from fake love as a replacement for bad memories so I’m not sure???
@@LainaSunflower It wasn't them getting rid of bad memories. It was more of them trading their fears/doubts for something light that could help them face those fears and doubts. And their is that thing about the anima and animus of their souls coming into play with Fake Love and the Magic Shop.
So when Jin leaves a timeline/universe, that universe ends up dead..... but I just realized.. that means ALL the other ppl in that universe end up dead too... bc of Jin?? Wow.. Imagine the burden of leaving a parallel universe :o
I personally think that when Jin creates another time line, the one that he was in before stays there but ends up really bad (you know, he cannot save the guys).. So he's basically creating other versions, or clones (?) of the members to try to save them, but when he ends up failing again.. he just created other versions of the guys only to make them die or be miserable in their own time line.... Idk, this is what I thought but honestly with HYBE you can't be sure about anything, I think | not to mentions the connections with the other time lines that Taehyung and Jungkook have...and Laina's theory about JK from another time line traveling like Jin does (and so Jin is the one who's miserable, there) which really freaked me out
Hello~ I'm a buddy, and a Hybe stan. Nu'est content is quite important in whole hybe universe. I have watched their trailer and found out they have already made a concept about blue and red light. Also, Nu'est were given a sandglass as present by a girl, who was in fear of being heard by night. In my opinion, the outfit of their queen is similar as Gfriend Apple mv outfit. Nu'est have their magic island in ending of BET BET MV too. Hope Laina could talk more about Nu'est later.
I have a theory, I was thinking nu'est as the protectors of this universe, and are the one that gave jin the hourglass allows him to travel through time and space and seventeen the diamond that always them to only travel through time, and nu'est are the protectors of other items that keep the balance of the hybe universe.
Enhypen will have their comeback... So more theory explanation you need to do.. The storyline getting serious... Can't wait for your theory for Enhypen
The room Jin is in reminds me of Epiphany, and he have a book..?? Idk it just reminds me of that, then the yellow reminds me of Serendipity, like Jimin have Yellow blanket(?) balloon or ball that goes big or smth.
Yeah I thought of serendipity too! But WASNT sure bc it didn’t ONLY feature jimin 😭😭 so I wasn’t sure if it was the emotion or what SKDJKS sometimes it’s hard until you figure it out!!
Jimin also had blonde hair 😁 Doesn't it also show up in the DNA music video? The yellow sun with Jimin laying on the ground in "DNA." Also, they were a lot of yellow in the mv, some of the boys were wearing yellow and even the background with the yellow warehouse. The whole mv is saturated in shades of yellow. Not just this Jungkook wears a yellow jacket in "Euphoria." For some reason, yellow is used to show maybe innocence or happiness. Have you noticed in the movie Coraline; she wears a yellow raincoat and the rest of the colors are greys and blues in the real world the other place had so much color. And like the "Little Nightmares" game, the little girl wears yellow. I know in color theory yellow represents happiness, and optimism, of enlightenment and creativity, spring. To add to that Serendipity had to do with "The Little Prince" story; he always had that yellow scarf and he has blonde/yellow hair. Yellow is also a color of caution too. In "Film Out" the color yellow looks like a sign of caution, right in the middle of the destruction of the room. Plus the room Taehyung and Jimin were in was all yellow didn't seem like it was good. Edit: There is also blue in the "Film Out" mv just like some of the walls in the "DNA" mv. (The same shade of blue too.) So many blues, yellows, and reds. (Also, I wrote this comment before I watched the theory video.) So I've noticed the colors blue and yellow are also used in the Map of the Soul: 7 album logo. (The number 7 is in yellow and blue.)
Film Out also has a meaning in film production --- it is the process of separating individual frames out of a video --- so like creating still photos/individual frames out of a video or digital . This definition in my opinion is maybe more accurate .
I watched another theory which talked about the yellow and blue and reminds me of Jimins Serendipity mv. *The meaning of serendipity is: Finding something beautiful without looking for it* and parts of it made sense. The yellow was when he was hopeful and full of life and just happy. At the start it was teal and blue with a little yellow. In the blue scenes he was sad, looked lost and alone and as he focused on the tiny yellow ball, he grew happier which then shows the yellow grow in the scene in every object and aspect. And blue and yellow are the common and prominant colours in the DNA video too. Where as the blue is veeeeery prominent in Fake Love which tackles their fear and harshness of life yet Stay Gold kind of replicates Fake love at the start, they end up following the light to find hope and also those flashes of happy shots of the boys together in possibly a alternative universe which is where they are all trying to finally reach or fragments of their imagination and innocence.. So I feel as though maybe the yellow, like you mentioned may be a reference alongside Stay Gold, and how the gold bursted through each of their scenes which leads them to follow and walk together into a beautiful place as they followed that burst of gold... , I think yellow relates to that emotion of happiness and hope for that moment and I'm sure the in Film Out scenes where the yellow individual shots are shown, those lyrics in those shots specificly emulate that emotion too... I think... If that makes sense 😬
That really does make it so much more clear! And thnx for mentioning that serendipity theory i always wondered abt that big yellow ball, will take into notes
@@aizlynrose6830 very welcome! Ngl I only came across it yesterday and this was me 🤯... Serendipity is one of my absolute favourite songs, my actual vers of healing if you must. So to see that being referenced I was like omg yeaaaah
@@dinay6760 it was the same for me with epiphany, and well the room does have a layout like that in epiphany, that made me very excited about this too!
@@aizlynrose6830 @Aizlyn Rose omg yeah it does and well that makes total sense. !! Seee what I mean 😂.. Replying back while Awake is blessing me thru my earphones! I swear there's so much more we're missing yet aswell. I realise a few other mvs have yellow and blue recurring too. It's just crazy how they come up with all this! The boys, their label the creators of this storyline and their film makers and creators and anybody else involved in all this madness. Gotta give where credits due! 👌🏽👏🏼
@@dinay6760 ikr when all of this comes to a climax I'm so sure I so wouldn't fully get it and Hybe would have totally have to put out a series or smthg xD and yes Awake is such a beautiful song.
Also interesting to go back to check the lyrics of Don't Leave Me which was part of the soundtrack for the Japanese TV version of Signal (which was originally a Korean Series) ... time, reaching out, saving me all in that song too.... cray cray.
Me: cries for Jin's tragic mess of broken timelines Laina: "There could be a mirrored reality where Jin and Jungkook's roles are flipped." Me: *crying intensifies* No but seriously, thanks for all the time and effort you put into making your theories not only so through but also easy to understand!!
4:03 OMG that door looks familiar! In gfriend tftmn teaser the grassy part had a door similar or maybe even the same as that! and also in 14:04 that light thing looks like gfriend fallin light (yerin’s scenes)
you also mentioned in one video that some song titles end with "we..." i don’t know if this has a connection but gfriend’s me gustas tu title in korean means "from today, we..."
The first time I watched the film out MV and noticed the primary colors my first thought was the Enhypen Given Taken MV where all 3 are kinda used simultaneously at 0:37. And Sunghoon's solo shot in yellow has "fate" written on the wall, so idk if that's what yellow is supposed to symbolise in the HYBE universe? Just a thought :D))
Thank you so much you don’t know how much I need this, I just calmed myself down so I’m a bit shaky so I’m sorry if this doesn’t make any sense. Thank you so much for everything, your hard work for the video and the emotional support
I think that the yellow colour might just exactly mean yellow. In the solo shoots for specifically Jimin might reference “Serendipity” because in there Jimin covers himself with a yellow blanket, has a yellow balloon, has yellow (blonde) hair, etc. Thx for the video :) I really liked it. I was wondering how TXT would have donut Yeonjun.
Hi, im not really a proffesional but maybe the primary colours could serve as this: Red, the half empty glass, the bad side of reality. Yellow, the half full glass, the good side of reality. Blue, what you want reality to be, the ideal reality, or like you said "Magic". (The half empty glass is only looking at the bad sides of everything and the half full glass only looks at the good sides) Idk is this helped anything but yea, i love your videos, hope you have a great day!
i was trying to connect the colors with Primary colors but was missing green. but this does make sense! so yellow could mean like knowing both the dark reality and the happy blue side?
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but you know the HYBE video BigHit posted about and we see BTS in a white room with a giant Jungkook. Did you notice Jin behind a screen/window on the wall and he comes into the room through there? Well, it wasn't a screen just an empty space, but you get what I mean. It's so similar to the part in "Film Out" where Jin is outside the room or frame looking in through the window or mirror. It's like a mirror too when Jin is always in front of a mirror and about to touch it, which reminded me of the mirror scenes in TXT's "Eternally" music video/film. There's something about the part where Jin stands watching everything through the window (at 1:00 in the mv) and the room he's in is a mess, then later the room blows up again (at 2:33 in the mv) and the room was still a mess before it blew up. It's like Jin is reliving another memory or film. The "...my life like is a movie...all the time..." from Jungkook's "My Time" makes sense here too and it's part of the Map of the Soul. Jin and Namjoon are connected too, in "Reflection" the Wings Short Film #5 a mirror breaks. Mirrors are made of glass. Before were manufactured, pools of water were often used to see a reflection and we know that's also part of their concepts too around water and the narcissus story that's associated with mirrors/reflections. Namjoon trades in a shard of a mirror at Magic Shop in the "Fake Love" teaser #1. I wonder if that's why Namjoon is moving around and the others are frozen in "Film Out." I'm sorry there are so many little details, but it's all connected. Also, I wanted to mention the mind is like a maze or labyrinth since you've mentioned memories and most of this going on in the subconscious. They are usually depicted as stairways or doors and stairways to the door itself. I wonder is Jin really stuck or is he going to face his fears and deal with them. He went back into the destroyed room and Taehyung is still having those dreams. Jin feels guilty for betraying his friends and that guilt never went away, that's why he is stuck in a time loop and tries to save everyone. It's his guilt that's keeping him from moving on and finding the map of the soul. How do you find the "Map of the Soul," if you don't know where to look? Jin doesn't understand that looking inward can be the answer; it can be memories or parts of your soul that you hide because those are inward aspects that you have to face. In this way, he has the map already. He just has to fight his way through his fears. Really think about it, all of this is about growing as an individual, and to grow spiritually you have to "Face Yourself." Face who you are even if it's painful. The "journey" you take to find yourself/your soul is the "map." It's not a physical map that tells you where to go, it's a path to being the better version of yourself that you chose. Self is the last part of this, isn't it? It's the part BTS hasn't talked about fully in their music. Almost all of the songs on the new Japanese album "BTS, THE BEST" are also in the album "Face Yourself." (I wrote all of the above before I got to the part with Carl Jung in your theory, Laina. Eerie, and cool how accurate I am without watching the theory video first.) After watching the theory video, for some reason it reminded me of "Howl's Moving Castle;" you know the door that can take you anywhere in the world. That could also mean TXT can go through a door to another space/place or the same space/place that BTS is in. Doors connect timelines so why can't they connect spaces/places and you know that ENHYPEN or hyphens connect things too. There are so many references to films and animations. And the concept of "Film Out" reminds me of the animation process. How animations are made; we use moving pictures or drawings. Each frame is a different movement combined to make a complete moving picture. (Edit: I just remembered the blue hour is also like Beomgyu's thing and the "time machine." He doesn't want to leave the good memories of childhood. It's a lot like Jin's dilemma with saving everyone.)
i got chills when i read all those little details in the first para, all of this is so detailed and connected one could almost never figure these out! I just commented on how the room in which jin was, was a mess just like in Fake love, in it too furniture was knocked out and in both of them it was still a mess after the blow-up. p.s It just occurred to me how it might mean that even after the time travel (blow-up) its still a mess and how it didn't go well/ he couldn't find Map of the Soul/Save the members
@@aizlynrose6830 Really, I always get chills when something amazing or unexpected happens or when I figure things out before they happen. Or when I see something that resonates with me personally. Yeah, it is difficult to figure out, but that's what makes it fun and engaging. BTS is always very clever with the little details. Wow, we talked about the same things. That is so amazing we shared the same observations. Well, Carl Jung was right about collective consciousness and collective unconsciousness; he was on to something. So every time-loop Jin went through must be a mess still. That's not good and sounds dangerous to mess with different realities. As if time and space are fluid without any consequences. Also, what about if each of the members is going through their own time-loops and Jin is in his own time-loop? Or it's all in his head/subconscious/unconscious; a lot like Alice in Wonderland. How difficult that could have been to add all the guy's time-loops in the BU storyline lol (just a thought I had.)
@@AwakeningWings that is a Wild theory which I had at the very start of my BU journey and omg it still gives me chills to think that all if them would be in their own time loops 😳 but I think as the story is progressing it could be as so far it seems like Tae and Jk are aware of these loops but again I think we'd just stick to Jin's time loop POV, never know maybe as laina said in the vdo we could get other povs too!
@@AwakeningWings I don't clearly remember that part of the Carl Jung theory, has been quite a time since I have looked into it hehe, I'll reread it now that BU is back.
@@aizlynrose6830 Yeah, I was thinking that too. Yes, Tae and Jungkook do know something is up, but Tae seemed unaware of what his dreams meant. This is the first time we see Tae coming back into the room and seeing Jin in trouble. But Jin always pushes Tae away. Jungkook had his own problems and doesn't really trust Jin much. Now it's clear they saw something in this reality, they know. It would be so confusing if each of them had their own time loops. It's better if it's just one person's pov.
You know, the hour glass that jin holds at 8:17 when jungkook notices it, the hours on his side of the glass is the opposite. Like, the one with jin looks like the countdown was just started or it has just been flipped, meanwhile the one with jungkook and the rest of them is coming to and end. Like, if one side begins,it ends on the other side, something like that
that could possibly be because of the theory which laina mentioned the mirrored timeline, or how when Jin starts a timeline (Jin flips the hourglass and time flows again) the other/ last timeline comes to an end and dissappears.
This is what I thought... Sooo in #FilmOut all members were saved by jin but he himself couldn't save him. That's why the time reversed and they all disappeared. Jungkook saw jin through the glass which means he knows about the time loop. We can see that in end taehyung and jin face each other and that's where the line "As if you are right there But I reach out my hand And you suddenly disappear" and we see taehyung reaching out his hand to the room that jin was before. So in my opinion I think jungkook and taehyung know about the time loop and the fact that jin needs to be saved. But I don't know if it's correct 😅 So in conclusion now the members need to save jin as the time has once again reversed. Oh and in the end when taehyung reaches his hand out maybe jin wrote "I'm fine"(not to worry the others) but as in many mvs seen taehyung is inverted and same here he maybe read it inverted "save me"
Okay I wasn't ready to read this- The "I'm fine/save me" thing was already huge before but now that I read your theory.... I'm about to explode, this is freaking me out, HYBE universes are beautiful, for real
I've been watching all your theory video for the past 2 days and it's EXHAUSTING!!! You're brain is so big :0 How do you comprehend all this in your head
I haven't watched this theory video yet, about all this. I just wanted to add BTS had the floating doors on something else too. I don't remember what performances or VCRs it was on. But I remember that detail of the doors very clearly and I think I mentioned it before. (Edit: I meant just the floating doors not the ones on the ground.)
@@aizlynrose6830 It's not Wings VCR, it's from a newer performance. I'll have to go look for it. I'm curious and I really want to remember. I will let you know when I figure it out.
@@aizlynrose6830 I found it in my notes. (I actually wrote all this for Bookish Theories videos and one of Laina's theory videos. Check out Bookish Theories videos as well. I also left comments about doors with BTS and TXT on her videos.) I’ve noticed “doors” for a while now. There are mirrors and reflections too. I mean with all three TXT, BTS, and Gfriend. There were doors at the beginning animation for BTS Press Conference for BE. (The doors were in the sky with clouds and ended with BTS's door logo.) In the BE concept photos, they were all in separate rooms with doors, and in most of the rooms; there were two sets of doors. TXT are in separate rooms in their comeback showcase/performance and in the concept photos. (Why does it feel like they know more about Carl Jung’s dreams with that annex room and doors? I know why it’s important for Carl Jung. I’m actually understanding why all the groups use those doors, mirrors, and reflections. For Jung, it’s because he was starting his research on Alchemy at that time. And I wonder if both groups realize it with adding doors everywhere.) Doors are represented as turning points in one's life, windows and doors are also seen as a way to escape from what’s keep us locked in reality. Carl Jung dreamed about the self as a house. It was when he was about to begin on a new path in his work. It’s a kind of dream that many people have at key turning points in their lives. Jung writes, “before I discovered alchemy, I had a series of dreams which repeatedly dealt with the same theme. Beside my house stood another, that is to say, another wing or annex, which was strange to me. Each time I would wonder in my dream why I did not know this house, although it had apparently always been there.” (An Annex is a building joined to or associated with the main building.) Jung didn’t notice it there in the first place, it’s like he forgot it was there. “Finally, there came a dream in which I reached the other wing. I discovered there a wonderful library, dating largely from the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. Large, fat folio volumes, bound in pigskin, stood along the walls. Among them were a number of books embellished with copper engravings of a strange character, and illustrations containing curious symbols such as I had never seen before. At the time I did not know to what they referred; only much later did I recognize them as alchemical symbols. In the dream, I was conscious only of the fascination exerted by them and by the entire library. It was a collection of medieval incunabula and sixteenth-century prints." (An incunabula is an early printed book, one printed before 1501.) Doesn’t this remind you of Jungkook finding the book ‘Magic Shop’ in the VCR of “Magic Shop” and the VCR from TXT with the library and the ‘Eternally’ book? "The unknown wing of the house was a part of my personality, an aspect of myself; it represented something that belonged to me but of which I was not yet conscious…." (These are all quotes from the book "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" by Carl Jung.) Jung’s dream of a new wing on his “house” was related to him discovering Alchemy. For TXT, I think the theme of a “new wing” on their “house,” a door that suddenly appears and which leads into a new room. TXT is always finding doors to rooms and places in their memories/nightmares or dreams and now in reality with their different rooms. Maybe it’s because they are growing as artists and it’s a turning point in their lives, right. Making mistakes, but learning from them. The turning point of their youth to adulthood is still part of their music.
Great video....but I have got to stop frying my brain on theory before trying to sleep...because when I do I end up staying awake thinking about everything most of the night.
You used the word "border" to describe the scene with Yoongi and Hoseok and Enhypen’s Border series came to my mind.. I don't think it's a coincidence, knowing HYBE🙃 I'm really curious of how Enhypen will match in the HYBE Universe, which is so much fun to try to understand but also makes me cry because of my stupidity lmao
so in enhypens song let me in, they say "shining blue might turn red" and that could mean that this dream could turn into a reality, and I don't know if this part matters but, mostly whenever it turns red/the background turns red jungwon is alone, and there's this one part where all of the members are looking into a hole (or something) without jungwon and the sky is colored red, and in the hole it looks like there's a blue light, but a bit before that jungwon was looking into the same exact hole but instead of being with the members he was by himself, I don't know if I just made something genius or I just sound stupid
exactly ! in txt's doom of night theory video laina told that they were playing game (dragon and dungeon sorry if i am wrong),the dice which soobin has is represented by blue(dream and magic) but whaen their characters and power turns into reality ,the parts where it showd reality was represented by red(reality). and red is also represents distruction
I watched a kdrama called Missing 9, and when the main character was doing hypnosis to remember something they used the door as the key to the gateway as the memory to what they wanted. That is just an idea of other doors, maybe they are false memories of the friends. I haven't played the game though so I may be way off
i haven't seen any theorists on yt mentioning this maybe because it's very obvious but i do think it's something very important: You see in Jin's side of the room which is mirrored/alternate timeline the furniture is all covered with sheets and some of it is knocked out just like in fake love, i can't specifically think of a theory, but would love to hear if anyone has any!
Btw laina jk knows about time travel since spring day mv when I saw himself riding the train in a parallel universe so he obviously knows about jin time travel more than the other members
I think then he might have got a hint rather than a confirmation, it was the same with Tae how he saw dreams(?) but wasn't sure of them. But now that he has possibly made a deal with the cat we don't know if he really does know abt the time travels ig
@@aizlynrose6830 I think the cat told him the truth when it asked him that suspicious question bc obviously it's better to die than to find out the painful truth (jin causing the car accident, jm committed suicide,hope having mental illness,suga died bc of the fire,v killed his father...) , kook is not happy now I guess after finding out what's going on ..... however I really feel scared of the cat. I think the consequences of the deal with the cat are sooo bad...just look at txt I bet the cat is the one.destroying their universe!
I think that the cat is a kitsune. A kitsune can be nice or bad when it wants to. The cat made him forget hitting jk or it's the cat that transformed into a cat and hits jk to make jk and jin fight. Just like when the cat turned into a train in magic island when txt burned the island.
The hourglass laying on its side is there during the Tae, JK and JM segment. Time is frozen or it could indicate the three are outside of time or maybe only Tae is since he is still left in the other room at the MV's end and the hourglass was next to him. Time has not run out in Jin's hourglass. That's why he can't leave the room until it does and then he vanishes. Odd thing is that when he time travels things shatter. They shatter before he runs to the door but he's blocked from going through it. When he does disappear nothing shatters so is he not time traveling? Has his time run out? To confuse things the other room shatters before Jin's and before the guys disappear but their hourglass has run out as JK notices. As we've seen Tae and JK are aware. JK via the cat and Tae through his dreams. Question's ...why is Tae the last one left when Jin disappears? Is JM now becoming aware since he was in the "outside of time" room with JK and Tae? Why was RM not frozen like the rest?
Enhypen have an upcoming comeback named 'Border: Carnival' and it's giving me very much Blue Hour TXT vibes. There's even a ferris wheel on the last page of their Border: Day One album, with a sunset orange sky... UGH!
Suga ssi is leaning on the mirror and Jhope ssi is leaning on the glass, it feels as if Jhope ssi can see Suga ssi just like Jin ssi can see everyone but Suga ssi knows there is someone behind him not knowing who just like Taehyung ssi knows there is someone at the end not knowing it's Jin ssi, wow the concept is genius.
But in the later half as Jk ssi turns time back and look at Jin ssi and disappears with Vssi's voice let's Jin ssi know that they can touch his world, Jin ssi gets scared cause now Suga ssi can see Jhope ssi as well. Which only means that it's just a matter of time when V ssi can also see Jin ssi that's why Jin ssi tries to run but he is trapped in his own parallel world he created
thank you for your videos! My brain is slowly wrapping around this one and I keep having to come back to it in parts. JK's part bothers me so much, and the way Notes 2 ended for him bothers me so much too.
I hope one day, Weverse Magazine will feature ARMY(HYBE) theorist like you and Celeste and other theorist in twitter... I know it'll be a very interesting read
something that I tough while watching the txt mv is that, when kai sees the other members they are probably from other timeline, they are not the ones that he knows, they are not the ones that were in the practice room with him, they are dressing differently and they all come together but without kai ( their kai ) idk
I don't know if this makes sense but in txt we got three kind of realities as you mentioned in +u theories......so I am guessing that the yellow represents augmented reality and the blue one represents virtual reality (here magic, as we can see in runaway jp mv) and the red represents the actual reality as you told????? haaaaaa I don't know anything anymore...this is harder than my school tests but its entertaining:)
I am not that sure about this colour palette thing..but the same colour palette was also seen in Enhypen 's given-taken video.. blue= jake n jay face off .. and yellow bg with FATE written in red during sunghoons part.. could b coincidence 😂
Wait can Hueningkai really cross the sky alone or will he be needing the help of the others? ‘cause in run away’s lyrics there’s a line saying “If you and I are together we can run across the sky”. And regarding the color red I also kinda think that it’s the reality or something related to breaking the imagination stuff or reminding them that this is just an imagination. Also the color red in HU always reminds me of the fire in txt mv ‘cause most of the time I think of the fire as a symbolism for the reality that’s chasing them.
There are no coincidences with BTS, it's all planned out. "...All of this is not a coincidence…" ~BTS, DNA lyrics :) Also, DNA is the second track in the upcoming Japanese album "BTS, THE BEST."
i have a math class rn and laina decides to post a video (┬┬﹏┬┬) also the mv came out like 4 days ago and laina has already made an entire video about it :0 good job laina!👏
5:41 I don't know why but this reminds me of a story my teacher told me when I was little."There once was a priest that died and he was almost in heaven,all he had to do is just go up on the stairs that take him to heaven's gate.At the last stair,the priest stoped and started to pray, when he finished he made the last step.In heaven God comes and tells him that if he didn't pray at the last stair,he would have fallen into hell since those stairs can be Evils and God's ones too." English is not my first language so I am really sorry for any mistakes. All I wanted to say is ,what if the Kai ,in the future,is going to go to the other members but he just like ...falls right in front of them...sorry
Okay this has nothing to do with the video but wanted to include that I genuinely see you as a friend idk why you seem so close and warm, just wanted to put that out there and this is why I stayed with your theories
Jin and Taeyong reminde me of Damian and Sinclare I thought that jin almost managed to save everything but he failed again. I think yellow is the inner world? Jimin seems in biiig pain... struggles he isn’t showing? Idk.
I wanted to ask what do Yoongi and Hosoek's scenes mean. Is it something to do with the Shadow and Ego or is it that both of them can feel that something is wrong with Jin and what's going on? Was Jin not able to save them? They were both back to back with the door frame, almost like a mirror with their reflections. Not just that they're both in a desert setting and they always use the desert as a metaphor for struggles. Namjoon's part "Decay too far gone absorbing no light or water...Sealing my wounded heart with a rootless, leafless vow..." reminded me of plants and how they decay without light and water. And in a desert, most plants don't grow. It also reminded me of the flower Jin was protecting in "Fake Love" that disappeared or turned into sand. Jungkook finds the lantern and sand. All this time Jungkook was kind of aware of Jin. Jungkook witnesses everything in "Fake Love" with each room and his friends. (I wrote all this before I got to the part about Yoongi and Hoseok in your theory.) We know Jin outside the window frame sees everything playing out in the memory. Jin (the one that's outside) now knows that Jungkook can see him holding the hourglass in the memory. Jin knows that Jungkook is now aware of it all too because Jungkook also made a deal with the odd-eyed cat. It explains why Jungkook was never in a room like the others in "Fake Love." So does Jungkook now understand why Jin did what he did? Maybe that changes everything now and Jin can finally save everyone.
It would be WILD if jk now does understand all this time travel stuff as it could be much easier for jin then, but it seems like yes he is aware of Jin in some way, That's a great theory when you connected Joon's part with the Sope scene! i too thought of plants when i read those lines and now that i see yep it does fit with that scene, ppl also mentioned abt the book "Through the Looking-Glass" for that sope scene, in the book the character enters a world through a glass/mirror, and in this world everything is mirrored even the actions (like running helps you remain stationary). Maybe this could tell how when joon is moving others are still/frozen. dayyum my mind is working rn lmao
@@aizlynrose6830 Yeah, it's exciting right!! Yes, Jungkook is definitely aware now. Yeah, I just really looked at the lyrics and Joon's part stood out to me. I know about "Through the Looking-Glass." It's the sequel to Alice in Wonderland. But the Yoongi and Hoseok scene could also be about the shadow and ego. It also reminded me of Coraline and MirrorMask both stories by Neil Gaiman. The other world is strange and some points very dark in nature even with all the colors in Coraline. MirrorMask is just a really dark storyline, but I feel like it can relate to Map of the Soul and the shadow aspect of the soul. And yes, you're right that could be why Joon is moving and the others are frozen in time. It's still vague so, we'll just have to wait and see if there is more about it in May with BTS's new Korean album or something.
@@aizlynrose6830 Yeah :) I've read so many things about shadow and ego. It's nice cause I'm also looking for the map of the soul, well my soul lol I mean I'm working on myself and learning to love myself more, it's why I still remember most of this stuff. Also, the movies of those books are nice too.
I really hope that if BTS don't renew their contract after 2026 and disband they'll release a clear explanation of their Universe because WE NEED IT. (but it's kinda obvious we're not gonna get that because, you know, HYBE is HYBE they like to play with us)
Fun fact: Signal is actually a very good K-Drama and I'm so excited for the Japanese Version.🥺 (if anyone sees this comment: watch signal on Netflix!🥺)
If blue means the imaginary aspect and red is the true reality then mixing those together makes purple! Not entirely sure how this fits into the theory but Borahae 💜
I read somewhere that yellow represent joy and friendship but on contrary it also represents danger. Can it be that jin is in danger as he is stuck in the time loop...?
Am I the only one who can see parallels between txt and BTS member's characters? For example, Yeonjun and Jin seem similar, Kai and Jungkook seem similar etc.
I think in Notes, Jungkook's conversation with Cat happens when he was hit by car. Cat asked him if he want to live, and at that moment he actually wants, because he finally was with his hyungs at that day. So Cat gives Jungkook chance to live and they form a contract, that can be proved by words of doctors, they said that the fact that Jungkook alive is a miracle. And the price Jungkook paid is his memories and connection to hyungs. So in the end he filled with anger and literally wants to kill hyungs. UPD: I think memories is always a payment for contract with Cat 1) Jin pays with his memories for ability to save his friends. 2) Jungkook pays with his memories for his life. He doesn't remember of happy times with hyungs and this why he goes paranoid and separated from other. 3) GFriend pays with their memories in third Märchen book for Eunha's ability to use butterflys to save girls 4) TXT pays with their memories about childhood for ???(i am not really into their storyline yet)
the meaning of red is really confusing to me in terms of the Enhypen storyline because in 20 Cube they go through the red light and end up in the museum(?)
Nah because the korean groups are specifically under “hybe labels” where as that is under “hybe America” so it’s a different branch of the company and I personally find it unlikely
lol i was once wild-thinking on how all the artists might be having these whole universes and one day BAAM it turns out it was all connected xD yk normal 3 am thoughts
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Film out can also mean to transfer digital files to a traditional “print”, or vice versa! It also works with Jin’s situation with the photo memory!
Yeah, Jin is known to carry around a camera or camcorder :)
They are so clever to use Film Out as the title of the track.
Im curious to know if the buying of Ithaca holdings could affect the storyline since I could very well see Ariana and demi being involved in this huge universe. It be really cool but I do wanna know your thoughts.
@@theskeptic777 Ithaca Holdings don't really have an effect on what BTS does. But the artists are free to work together if they want to :)
I'm sure the BU storyline won't change much with BTS and I don't think Justin, Ariana, or Demi would be involved with it.
@@AwakeningWings it would be cool if Ari was involved in someway. perhaps the true identity of the cat?
@@theskeptic777 Yeah, it would make things strange and interesting.
I think the storyline already has too much information lol
I feel like yellow could closely represent ‘memory’ or ‘thought’
maybe positive thoughts (or memories), because:
1 because the lyrics of that part are positive. (laina also talked about stay gold, and actually thats a postive song, its like a positive thought(?)
2 Yellow is actually a very bright color (and bright things normally are used for positive things (or situations)).
(srry if my english is bad, it aint my first language).
@@meii5759 first, your English is fine😄 and second, I like your idea on it!
IM SO PROUD OF YOU!!! LOOK HOW BIG YOUR FOLLOWING IS NOW 😭😭
WAIT! Since Kai can walk on the sky, does that mean he can totally just walk to different time loops and doors?
Also once you brought up Magic Island I just remembered I totally forgot about the Magic Shop when they made transactions and I'm wondering if it'll ever come back again in future mvs or something.
Also I'm just forever traumatized by pineapples thanks to TXT T-T
And because of that my brain just linked up the gold or yellow light color with pineapples-
TRAUMATIZED BY PINEAPPLES 😭😭😭
And yeah I’ve been wondering if it’ll come back in the same format but I think it implied that they would rather think of their items from fake love as a replacement for bad memories so I’m not sure???
I remember BTS saying they don't visit/use the same concept twice. But Magic Shop could be involved.
Also, I love pineapples on pizza :)
@@LainaSunflower It wasn't them getting rid of bad memories. It was more of them trading their fears/doubts for something light that could help them face those fears and doubts. And their is that thing about the anima and animus of their souls coming into play with Fake Love and the Magic Shop.
@Aniek Bronkhorst Lol 😂
No, I don't like mint choco ice cream 😖
But if it actually tastes good I might eat it.
@Aniek Bronkhorst lol
It's just that artificial mint flavor tastes bad just like artificial strawberry flavor.
So when Jin leaves a timeline/universe, that universe ends up dead..... but I just realized.. that means ALL the other ppl in that universe end up dead too... bc of Jin?? Wow.. Imagine the burden of leaving a parallel universe :o
maybe not like dead just the consequences after April 11(?) disappears and redoes it again in a new timeline.
I personally think that when Jin creates another time line, the one that he was in before stays there but ends up really bad (you know, he cannot save the guys).. So he's basically creating other versions, or clones (?) of the members to try to save them, but when he ends up failing again.. he just created other versions of the guys only to make them die or be miserable in their own time line.... Idk, this is what I thought but honestly with HYBE you can't be sure about anything, I think | not to mentions the connections with the other time lines that Taehyung and Jungkook have...and Laina's theory about JK from another time line traveling like Jin does (and so Jin is the one who's miserable, there) which really freaked me out
@@liaanin i think the same too
Hello~ I'm a buddy, and a Hybe stan.
Nu'est content is quite important in whole hybe universe.
I have watched their trailer and found out they have already made a concept about blue and red light.
Also, Nu'est were given a sandglass as present by a girl, who was in fear of being heard by night.
In my opinion, the outfit of their queen is similar as Gfriend Apple mv outfit.
Nu'est have their magic island in ending of BET BET MV too.
Hope Laina could talk more about Nu'est later.
Maybe if I comment there is more chance Laina will see this 👀
Actually... I'm going to post this again (ofc I'll give you credits) so hopefully Laina can see it
@@juanitac.6569 OK thanks
I have a theory, I was thinking nu'est as the protectors of this universe, and are the one that gave jin the hourglass allows him to travel through time and space and seventeen the diamond that always them to only travel through time, and nu'est are the protectors of other items that keep the balance of the hybe universe.
Enhypen will have their comeback... So more theory explanation you need to do.. The storyline getting serious... Can't wait for your theory for Enhypen
The room Jin is in reminds me of Epiphany, and he have a book..?? Idk it just reminds me of that, then the yellow reminds me of Serendipity, like Jimin have Yellow blanket(?) balloon or ball that goes big or smth.
Yeah I thought of serendipity too! But WASNT sure bc it didn’t ONLY feature jimin 😭😭 so I wasn’t sure if it was the emotion or what SKDJKS sometimes it’s hard until you figure it out!!
Jimin also had blonde hair 😁
Doesn't it also show up in the DNA music video? The yellow sun with Jimin laying on the ground in "DNA."
Also, they were a lot of yellow in the mv, some of the boys were wearing yellow and even the background with the yellow warehouse. The whole mv is saturated in shades of yellow. Not just this Jungkook wears a yellow jacket in "Euphoria."
For some reason, yellow is used to show maybe innocence or happiness. Have you noticed in the movie Coraline; she wears a yellow raincoat and the rest of the colors are greys and blues in the real world the other place had so much color. And like the "Little Nightmares" game, the little girl wears yellow. I know in color theory yellow represents happiness, and optimism, of enlightenment and creativity, spring. To add to that Serendipity had to do with "The Little Prince" story; he always had that yellow scarf and he has blonde/yellow hair.
Yellow is also a color of caution too. In "Film Out" the color yellow looks like a sign of caution, right in the middle of the destruction of the room. Plus the room Taehyung and Jimin were in was all yellow didn't seem like it was good.
Edit: There is also blue in the "Film Out" mv just like some of the walls in the "DNA" mv. (The same shade of blue too.)
So many blues, yellows, and reds. (Also, I wrote this comment before I watched the theory video.)
So I've noticed the colors blue and yellow are also used in the Map of the Soul: 7 album logo. (The number 7 is in yellow and blue.)
It's big hit music universe now ☺️💙💜
Bighit music only covers BTS and TXT, I use hybe universe because this also includes plexus and source music!
@@LainaSunflower oh i actually written this before I end the video.. Sorry
Film Out also has a meaning in film production --- it is the process of separating individual frames out of a video --- so like creating still photos/individual frames out of a video or digital . This definition in my opinion is maybe more accurate .
Oh this is a good point and fits in just the same!!
I watched another theory which talked about the yellow and blue and reminds me of Jimins Serendipity mv. *The meaning of serendipity is: Finding something beautiful without looking for it* and parts of it made sense. The yellow was when he was hopeful and full of life and just happy. At the start it was teal and blue with a little yellow. In the blue scenes he was sad, looked lost and alone and as he focused on the tiny yellow ball, he grew happier which then shows the yellow grow in the scene in every object and aspect. And blue and yellow are the common and prominant colours in the DNA video too. Where as the blue is veeeeery prominent in Fake Love which tackles their fear and harshness of life yet Stay Gold kind of replicates Fake love at the start, they end up following the light to find hope and also those flashes of happy shots of the boys together in possibly a alternative universe which is where they are all trying to finally reach or fragments of their imagination and innocence..
So I feel as though maybe the yellow, like you mentioned may be a reference alongside Stay Gold, and how the gold bursted through each of their scenes which leads them to follow and walk together into a beautiful place as they followed that burst of gold... , I think yellow relates to that emotion of happiness and hope for that moment and I'm sure the in Film Out scenes where the yellow individual shots are shown, those lyrics in those shots specificly emulate that emotion too... I think... If that makes sense 😬
That really does make it so much more clear! And thnx for mentioning that serendipity theory i always wondered abt that big yellow ball, will take into notes
@@aizlynrose6830 very welcome! Ngl I only came across it yesterday and this was me 🤯... Serendipity is one of my absolute favourite songs, my actual vers of healing if you must. So to see that being referenced I was like omg yeaaaah
@@dinay6760 it was the same for me with epiphany, and well the room does have a layout like that in epiphany, that made me very excited about this too!
@@aizlynrose6830 @Aizlyn Rose omg yeah it does and well that makes total sense. !! Seee what I mean 😂.. Replying back while Awake is blessing me thru my earphones! I swear there's so much more we're missing yet aswell. I realise a few other mvs have yellow and blue recurring too. It's just crazy how they come up with all this! The boys, their label the creators of this storyline and their film makers and creators and anybody else involved in all this madness. Gotta give where credits due! 👌🏽👏🏼
@@dinay6760 ikr when all of this comes to a climax I'm so sure I so wouldn't fully get it and Hybe would have totally have to put out a series or smthg xD and yes Awake is such a beautiful song.
Also interesting to go back to check the lyrics of Don't Leave Me which was part of the soundtrack for the Japanese TV version of Signal (which was originally a Korean Series) ... time, reaching out, saving me all in that song too.... cray cray.
Me: cries for Jin's tragic mess of broken timelines
Laina: "There could be a mirrored reality where Jin and Jungkook's roles are flipped."
Me: *crying intensifies*
No but seriously, thanks for all the time and effort you put into making your theories not only so through but also easy to understand!!
4:03 OMG that door looks familiar! In gfriend tftmn teaser the grassy part had a door similar or maybe even the same as that! and also in 14:04 that light thing looks like gfriend fallin light (yerin’s scenes)
you also mentioned in one video that some song titles end with "we..." i don’t know if this has a connection but gfriend’s me gustas tu title in korean means "from today, we..."
Nuest? universe? 😮🤔 more universes to come!
The first time I watched the film out MV and noticed the primary colors my first thought was the Enhypen Given Taken MV where all 3 are kinda used simultaneously at 0:37. And Sunghoon's solo shot in yellow has "fate" written on the wall, so idk if that's what yellow is supposed to symbolise in the HYBE universe? Just a thought :D))
Fate HMMM 👀
THIS
In the tu yellow is the color for warning as we saw in eternally mv at the end of Taehyun section with the flower it may apply for bts univers as well
11:20 omg 😭😭 why i didn't notice that, that is dreaming taehyung. You are soo JINeus. I got goosebumps you work so hard i am proud of you 💜
Thank you so much you don’t know how much I need this, I just calmed myself down so I’m a bit shaky so I’m sorry if this doesn’t make any sense. Thank you so much for everything, your hard work for the video and the emotional support
Thank you for being here 🥺💜✨ I appreciate you!!
yEY!!
Just squeeze this in my timeline :”)
LAINA WHERE ARE YOUUU😭😭😭 ENHYPEN, TXT, AND BTS ...... I NEED THEORIES I MISS YOUUU😭😭😭💜💜
AFTER STUDYING PHYSICS, MY BRAIN JUST CAN'T PROCESS THIS - I NEED TO COME BACK LATER 😟
I think that the yellow colour might just exactly mean yellow. In the solo shoots for specifically Jimin might reference “Serendipity” because in there Jimin covers himself with a yellow blanket, has a yellow balloon, has yellow (blonde) hair, etc.
Thx for the video :) I really liked it. I was wondering how TXT would have donut Yeonjun.
Hi, im not really a proffesional but maybe the primary colours could serve as this: Red, the half empty glass, the bad side of reality. Yellow, the half full glass, the good side of reality. Blue, what you want reality to be, the ideal reality, or like you said "Magic". (The half empty glass is only looking at the bad sides of everything and the half full glass only looks at the good sides)
Idk is this helped anything but yea, i love your videos, hope you have a great day!
i was trying to connect the colors with Primary colors but was missing green. but this does make sense! so yellow could mean like knowing both the dark reality and the happy blue side?
Laina I'm trying to sleepT_T but I HAVE TO WATCH THIS😅😅
Gfriend is also connected in that like crossroads last part like eunha is stuck in a one room also
I think u are correct about that light passing through being an eclipse because in enhypen s first intro they added an imagery of an eclipse too
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but you know the HYBE video BigHit posted about and we see BTS in a white room with a giant Jungkook. Did you notice Jin behind a screen/window on the wall and he comes into the room through there? Well, it wasn't a screen just an empty space, but you get what I mean. It's so similar to the part in "Film Out" where Jin is outside the room or frame looking in through the window or mirror. It's like a mirror too when Jin is always in front of a mirror and about to touch it, which reminded me of the mirror scenes in TXT's "Eternally" music video/film. There's something about the part where Jin stands watching everything through the window (at 1:00 in the mv) and the room he's in is a mess, then later the room blows up again (at 2:33 in the mv) and the room was still a mess before it blew up. It's like Jin is reliving another memory or film. The "...my life like is a movie...all the time..." from Jungkook's "My Time" makes sense here too and it's part of the Map of the Soul. Jin and Namjoon are connected too, in "Reflection" the Wings Short Film #5 a mirror breaks. Mirrors are made of glass. Before were manufactured, pools of water were often used to see a reflection and we know that's also part of their concepts too around water and the narcissus story that's associated with mirrors/reflections. Namjoon trades in a shard of a mirror at Magic Shop in the "Fake Love" teaser #1. I wonder if that's why Namjoon is moving around and the others are frozen in "Film Out." I'm sorry there are so many little details, but it's all connected.
Also, I wanted to mention the mind is like a maze or labyrinth since you've mentioned memories and most of this going on in the subconscious. They are usually depicted as stairways or doors and stairways to the door itself.
I wonder is Jin really stuck or is he going to face his fears and deal with them. He went back into the destroyed room and Taehyung is still having those dreams. Jin feels guilty for betraying his friends and that guilt never went away, that's why he is stuck in a time loop and tries to save everyone. It's his guilt that's keeping him from moving on and finding the map of the soul. How do you find the "Map of the Soul," if you don't know where to look? Jin doesn't understand that looking inward can be the answer; it can be memories or parts of your soul that you hide because those are inward aspects that you have to face. In this way, he has the map already. He just has to fight his way through his fears. Really think about it, all of this is about growing as an individual, and to grow spiritually you have to "Face Yourself." Face who you are even if it's painful. The "journey" you take to find yourself/your soul is the "map." It's not a physical map that tells you where to go, it's a path to being the better version of yourself that you chose. Self is the last part of this, isn't it? It's the part BTS hasn't talked about fully in their music. Almost all of the songs on the new Japanese album "BTS, THE BEST" are also in the album "Face Yourself." (I wrote all of the above before I got to the part with Carl Jung in your theory, Laina. Eerie, and cool how accurate I am without watching the theory video first.)
After watching the theory video, for some reason it reminded me of "Howl's Moving Castle;" you know the door that can take you anywhere in the world. That could also mean TXT can go through a door to another space/place or the same space/place that BTS is in. Doors connect timelines so why can't they connect spaces/places and you know that ENHYPEN or hyphens connect things too.
There are so many references to films and animations. And the concept of "Film Out" reminds me of the animation process. How animations are made; we use moving pictures or drawings. Each frame is a different movement combined to make a complete moving picture.
(Edit: I just remembered the blue hour is also like Beomgyu's thing and the "time machine." He doesn't want to leave the good memories of childhood. It's a lot like Jin's dilemma with saving everyone.)
i got chills when i read all those little details in the first para, all of this is so detailed and connected one could almost never figure these out! I just commented on how the room in which jin was, was a mess just like in Fake love, in it too furniture was knocked out and in both of them it was still a mess after the blow-up.
p.s It just occurred to me how it might mean that even after the time travel (blow-up) its still a mess and how it didn't go well/ he couldn't find Map of the Soul/Save the members
@@aizlynrose6830 Really, I always get chills when something amazing or unexpected happens or when I figure things out before they happen. Or when I see something that resonates with me personally.
Yeah, it is difficult to figure out, but that's what makes it fun and engaging. BTS is always very clever with the little details.
Wow, we talked about the same things. That is so amazing we shared the same observations. Well, Carl Jung was right about collective consciousness and collective unconsciousness; he was on to something.
So every time-loop Jin went through must be a mess still. That's not good and sounds dangerous to mess with different realities. As if time and space are fluid without any consequences. Also, what about if each of the members is going through their own time-loops and Jin is in his own time-loop? Or it's all in his head/subconscious/unconscious; a lot like Alice in Wonderland. How difficult that could have been to add all the guy's time-loops in the BU storyline lol (just a thought I had.)
@@AwakeningWings that is a Wild theory which I had at the very start of my BU journey and omg it still gives me chills to think that all if them would be in their own time loops 😳 but I think as the story is progressing it could be as so far it seems like Tae and Jk are aware of these loops but again I think we'd just stick to Jin's time loop POV, never know maybe as laina said in the vdo we could get other povs too!
@@AwakeningWings I don't clearly remember that part of the Carl Jung theory, has been quite a time since I have looked into it hehe, I'll reread it now that BU is back.
@@aizlynrose6830 Yeah, I was thinking that too.
Yes, Tae and Jungkook do know something is up, but Tae seemed unaware of what his dreams meant. This is the first time we see Tae coming back into the room and seeing Jin in trouble. But Jin always pushes Tae away. Jungkook had his own problems and doesn't really trust Jin much.
Now it's clear they saw something in this reality, they know.
It would be so confusing if each of them had their own time loops. It's better if it's just one person's pov.
Enhypen release their new intro for their next comeback this april react to it please, thankyouu!!!!!!!
Yes🥺
7:48 please look at the hole in jins sweater, the threads are moving?
You know, the hour glass that jin holds at 8:17 when jungkook notices it, the hours on his side of the glass is the opposite. Like, the one with jin looks like the countdown was just started or it has just been flipped, meanwhile the one with jungkook and the rest of them is coming to and end. Like, if one side begins,it ends on the other side, something like that
that could possibly be because of the theory which laina mentioned the mirrored timeline, or how when Jin starts a timeline (Jin flips the hourglass and time flows again) the other/ last timeline comes to an end and dissappears.
This is what I thought...
Sooo in #FilmOut all members were saved by jin but he himself couldn't save him. That's why the time reversed and they all disappeared. Jungkook saw jin through the glass which means he knows about the time loop.
We can see that in end taehyung and jin face each other and that's where the line "As if you are right there But I reach out my hand
And you suddenly disappear" and we see taehyung reaching out his hand to the room that jin was before.
So in my opinion I think jungkook and taehyung know about the time loop and the fact that jin needs to be saved. But I don't know if it's correct 😅 So in conclusion now the members need to save jin as the time has once again reversed.
Oh and in the end when taehyung reaches his hand out maybe jin wrote "I'm fine"(not to worry the others) but as in many mvs seen taehyung is inverted and same here he maybe read it inverted "save me"
Okay I wasn't ready to read this- The "I'm fine/save me" thing was already huge before but now that I read your theory.... I'm about to explode, this is freaking me out, HYBE universes are beautiful, for real
Imagine if Jin wrote "Save Me" tho hahahha *sweats
I've been watching all your theory video for the past 2 days and it's EXHAUSTING!!! You're brain is so big :0 How do you comprehend all this in your head
I haven't watched this theory video yet, about all this. I just wanted to add BTS had the floating doors on something else too. I don't remember what performances or VCRs it was on. But I remember that detail of the doors very clearly and I think I mentioned it before.
(Edit: I meant just the floating doors not the ones on the ground.)
the wings vcr??
@@aizlynrose6830 It's not Wings VCR, it's from a newer performance. I'll have to go look for it. I'm curious and I really want to remember. I will let you know when I figure it out.
@@AwakeningWings okk
@@aizlynrose6830 I found it in my notes. (I actually wrote all this for Bookish Theories videos and one of Laina's theory videos. Check out Bookish Theories videos as well. I also left comments about doors with BTS and TXT on her videos.)
I’ve noticed “doors” for a while now. There are mirrors and reflections too. I mean with all three TXT, BTS, and Gfriend. There were doors at the beginning animation for BTS Press Conference for BE. (The doors were in the sky with clouds and ended with BTS's door logo.) In the BE concept photos, they were all in separate rooms with doors, and in most of the rooms; there were two sets of doors. TXT are in separate rooms in their comeback showcase/performance and in the concept photos. (Why does it feel like they know more about Carl Jung’s dreams with that annex room and doors? I know why it’s important for Carl Jung. I’m actually understanding why all the groups use those doors, mirrors, and reflections. For Jung, it’s because he was starting his research on Alchemy at that time. And I wonder if both groups realize it with adding doors everywhere.) Doors are represented as turning points in one's life, windows and doors are also seen as a way to escape from what’s keep us locked in reality.
Carl Jung dreamed about the self as a house. It was when he was about to begin on a new path in his work. It’s a kind of dream that many people have at key turning points in their lives.
Jung writes, “before I discovered alchemy, I had a series of dreams which repeatedly dealt with the same theme. Beside my house stood another, that is to say, another wing or annex, which was strange to me. Each time I would wonder in my dream why I did not know this house, although it had apparently always been there.”
(An Annex is a building joined to or associated with the main building.) Jung didn’t notice it there in the first place, it’s like he forgot it was there.
“Finally, there came a dream in which I reached the other wing. I discovered there a wonderful library, dating largely from the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. Large, fat folio volumes, bound in pigskin, stood along the walls. Among them were a number of books embellished with copper engravings of a strange character, and illustrations containing curious symbols such as I had never seen before. At the time I did not know to what they referred; only much later did I recognize them as alchemical symbols. In the dream, I was conscious only of the fascination exerted by them and by the entire library. It was a collection of medieval incunabula and sixteenth-century prints." (An incunabula is an early printed book, one printed before 1501.) Doesn’t this remind you of Jungkook finding the book ‘Magic Shop’ in the VCR of “Magic Shop” and the VCR from TXT with the library and the ‘Eternally’ book?
"The unknown wing of the house was a part of my personality, an aspect of myself; it represented something that belonged to me but of which I was not yet conscious…." (These are all quotes from the book "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" by Carl Jung.) Jung’s dream of a new wing on his “house” was related to him discovering Alchemy. For TXT, I think the theme of a “new wing” on their “house,” a door that suddenly appears and which leads into a new room. TXT is always finding doors to rooms and places in their memories/nightmares or dreams and now in reality with their different rooms. Maybe it’s because they are growing as artists and it’s a turning point in their lives, right. Making mistakes, but learning from them. The turning point of their youth to adulthood is still part of their music.
THIS is so detailed and phenominal!
Laina, you wonderful immersing theorist💜💜💜🌈I'm so grateful having you as our guide to the HYBE universes!💜💜💜🌻🌻🌻🧡😊
The hourglass that jungkook gets in Fake Love, coupled with whatever happened in On, really really give credence to the 'mirrored reality' theory
Great video....but I have got to stop frying my brain on theory before trying to sleep...because when I do I end up staying awake thinking about everything most of the night.
You should totally make a BTS universe explained video, I know that there are a lot already but I truly like how you explain and edit you videos!
You used the word "border" to describe the scene with Yoongi and Hoseok and Enhypen’s Border series came to my mind.. I don't think it's a coincidence, knowing HYBE🙃 I'm really curious of how Enhypen will match in the HYBE Universe, which is so much fun to try to understand but also makes me cry because of my stupidity lmao
so in enhypens song let me in, they say "shining blue might turn red" and that could mean that this dream could turn into a reality, and I don't know if this part matters but, mostly whenever it turns red/the background turns red jungwon is alone, and there's this one part where all of the members are looking into a hole (or something) without jungwon and the sky is colored red, and in the hole it looks like there's a blue light, but a bit before that jungwon was looking into the same exact hole but instead of being with the members he was by himself, I don't know if I just made something genius or I just sound stupid
exactly ! in txt's doom of night theory video laina told that they were playing game (dragon and dungeon sorry if i am wrong),the dice which soobin has is represented by blue(dream and magic) but whaen their characters and power turns into reality ,the parts where it showd reality was represented by red(reality). and red is also represents distruction
I watched a kdrama called Missing 9, and when the main character was doing hypnosis to remember something they used the door as the key to the gateway as the memory to what they wanted. That is just an idea of other doors, maybe they are false memories of the friends. I haven't played the game though so I may be way off
this opened my eyes to new things in the video, thank you.
i haven't seen any theorists on yt mentioning this maybe because it's very obvious but i do think it's something very important:
You see in Jin's side of the room which is mirrored/alternate timeline the furniture is all covered with sheets and some of it is knocked out just like in fake love,
i can't specifically think of a theory, but would love to hear if anyone has any!
You’re so smart you blew my brain
Btw laina jk knows about time travel since spring day mv when I saw himself riding the train in a parallel universe so he obviously knows about jin time travel more than the other members
I think then he might have got a hint rather than a confirmation, it was the same with Tae how he saw dreams(?) but wasn't sure of them. But now that he has possibly made a deal with the cat we don't know if he really does know abt the time travels ig
@@aizlynrose6830 I think the cat told him the truth when it asked him that suspicious question bc obviously it's better to die than to find out the painful truth (jin causing the car accident, jm committed suicide,hope having mental illness,suga died bc of the fire,v killed his father...) , kook is not happy now I guess after finding out what's going on ..... however I really feel scared of the cat. I think the consequences of the deal with the cat are sooo bad...just look at txt I bet the cat is the one.destroying their universe!
I think that the cat is a kitsune. A kitsune can be nice or bad when it wants to. The cat made him forget hitting jk or it's the cat that transformed into a cat and hits jk to make jk and jin fight. Just like when the cat turned into a train in magic island when txt burned the island.
Recently found out your channel, glad I found it! I love it so much!
The hourglass laying on its side is there during the Tae, JK and JM segment. Time is frozen or it could indicate the three are outside of time or maybe only Tae is since he is still left in the other room at the MV's end and the hourglass was next to him. Time has not run out in Jin's hourglass. That's why he can't leave the room until it does and then he vanishes. Odd thing is that when he time travels things shatter. They shatter before he runs to the door but he's blocked from going through it. When he does disappear nothing shatters so is he not time traveling? Has his time run out? To confuse things the other room shatters before Jin's and before the guys disappear but their hourglass has run out as JK notices. As we've seen Tae and JK are aware. JK via the cat and Tae through his dreams. Question's ...why is Tae the last one left when Jin disappears? Is JM now becoming aware since he was in the "outside of time" room with JK and Tae? Why was RM not frozen like the rest?
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Enhypen have an upcoming comeback named 'Border: Carnival' and it's giving me very much Blue Hour TXT vibes. There's even a ferris wheel on the last page of their Border: Day One album, with a sunset orange sky... UGH!
Riiight, plus on their schedule it has a disco ball that makes me think of gfriend MAGO... I’m so excited for ENHYPEN’s comeback!!
So excited for it! Could see a whole book written across that trailer
finally!!!!! i've been waiting for this!!! thank you so muuuuuch❣️
Suga ssi is leaning on the mirror and Jhope ssi is leaning on the glass, it feels as if Jhope ssi can see Suga ssi just like Jin ssi can see everyone but Suga ssi knows there is someone behind him not knowing who just like Taehyung ssi knows there is someone at the end not knowing it's Jin ssi, wow the concept is genius.
But in the later half as Jk ssi turns time back and look at Jin ssi and disappears with Vssi's voice let's Jin ssi know that they can touch his world, Jin ssi gets scared cause now Suga ssi can see Jhope ssi as well. Which only means that it's just a matter of time when V ssi can also see Jin ssi that's why Jin ssi tries to run but he is trapped in his own parallel world he created
thank you for your videos! My brain is slowly wrapping around this one and I keep having to come back to it in parts. JK's part bothers me so much, and the way Notes 2 ended for him bothers me so much too.
I hope one day, Weverse Magazine will feature ARMY(HYBE) theorist like you and Celeste and other theorist in twitter... I know it'll be a very interesting read
something that I tough while watching the txt mv is that, when kai sees the other members they are probably from other timeline, they are not the ones that he knows, they are not the ones that were in the practice room with him, they are dressing differently and they all come together but without kai ( their kai )
idk
I can't wait til you do a reaction on the new doom night trailor
Wow this has 0 dislikes. Great job! I’ve never seen that before
I don't know if this makes sense but in txt we got three kind of realities as you mentioned in +u theories......so I am guessing that the yellow represents augmented reality and the blue one represents virtual reality (here magic, as we can see in runaway jp mv) and the red represents the actual reality as you told????? haaaaaa I don't know anything anymore...this is harder than my school tests but its entertaining:)
woah that quite fits ngl
I am not that sure about this colour palette thing..but the same colour palette was also seen in Enhypen 's given-taken video.. blue= jake n jay face off .. and yellow bg with FATE written in red during sunghoons part.. could b coincidence 😂
Yey thank u I'm been waiting 4 this
Omoohhhhh thank soooooo much 4 fiving m I ♡♡♡♡♡I really love ur theory
Extraño los subs al español xc
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Omg you’ve been here so long 🥺🥺🥺 thank you so much!!! 😭
New video!! Yayyyy thank you Laina!!! ❤
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Wait can Hueningkai really cross the sky alone or will he be needing the help of the others? ‘cause in run away’s lyrics there’s a line saying “If you and I are together we can run across the sky”. And regarding the color red I also kinda think that it’s the reality or something related to breaking the imagination stuff or reminding them that this is just an imagination. Also the color red in HU always reminds me of the fire in txt mv ‘cause most of the time I think of the fire as a symbolism for the reality that’s chasing them.
thats a good theory as we didn't necessarily see him walk across the sky.
There are no coincidences with BTS, it's all planned out. "...All of this is not a coincidence…" ~BTS, DNA lyrics :)
Also, DNA is the second track in the upcoming Japanese album "BTS, THE BEST."
i never clicked so fast i love your videos❤️💜
Please do enhypen teasers (hype)!!!!
Others' color are red only Jake do have Blue with a slight of red!!
i have a math class rn and laina decides to post a video (┬┬﹏┬┬)
also the mv came out like 4 days ago and laina has already made an entire video about it :0 good job laina!👏
Laina I'm here again :")))
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I don't know why but this reminds me of a story my teacher told me when I was little."There once was a priest that died and he was almost in heaven,all he had to do is just go up on the stairs that take him to heaven's gate.At the last stair,the priest stoped and started to pray, when he finished he made the last step.In heaven God comes and tells him that if he didn't pray at the last stair,he would have fallen into hell since those stairs can be Evils and God's ones too."
English is not my first language so I am really sorry for any mistakes.
All I wanted to say is ,what if the Kai ,in the future,is going to go to the other members but he just like ...falls right in front of them...sorry
I think the yellow might mean dream combining with reality because I follow nct storyline and its based on Matrix with the red and blue pills
it's interesting how jimin's mostly related to yellow, right? that yellow tinted scene took me directly to serendipity!!!
idk where i'm going w this though, sorry 😅
Okay this has nothing to do with the video but wanted to include that I genuinely see you as a friend idk why you seem so close and warm, just wanted to put that out there and this is why I stayed with your theories
heard the beautiful note ate 4:23??? uwuuuu
Please please look at the new enhyen teser
I’m waiting for the third concept to come out and will be making a video in the next few days for it
Jin and Taeyong reminde me of Damian and Sinclare
I thought that jin almost managed to save everything but he failed again.
I think yellow is the inner world? Jimin seems in biiig pain... struggles he isn’t showing?
Idk.
Maybe ... the color yellow means signal or warning (?)🤔
My Theory :
They are using Doraemon's Anywhere Door a lot !!!!
Your theory of JK traveling in time instead of Jin in the other side of reality freaked me out, it's 3am and I'm watching this in the dark like holy-
I wanted to ask what do Yoongi and Hosoek's scenes mean. Is it something to do with the Shadow and Ego or is it that both of them can feel that something is wrong with Jin and what's going on? Was Jin not able to save them? They were both back to back with the door frame, almost like a mirror with their reflections. Not just that they're both in a desert setting and they always use the desert as a metaphor for struggles. Namjoon's part "Decay too far gone absorbing no light or water...Sealing my wounded heart with a rootless, leafless vow..." reminded me of plants and how they decay without light and water. And in a desert, most plants don't grow. It also reminded me of the flower Jin was protecting in "Fake Love" that disappeared or turned into sand. Jungkook finds the lantern and sand. All this time Jungkook was kind of aware of Jin. Jungkook witnesses everything in "Fake Love" with each room and his friends. (I wrote all this before I got to the part about Yoongi and Hoseok in your theory.)
We know Jin outside the window frame sees everything playing out in the memory. Jin (the one that's outside) now knows that Jungkook can see him holding the hourglass in the memory. Jin knows that Jungkook is now aware of it all too because Jungkook also made a deal with the odd-eyed cat. It explains why Jungkook was never in a room like the others in "Fake Love."
So does Jungkook now understand why Jin did what he did? Maybe that changes everything now and Jin can finally save everyone.
It would be WILD if jk now does understand all this time travel stuff as it could be much easier for jin then, but it seems like yes he is aware of Jin in some way, That's a great theory when you connected Joon's part with the Sope scene! i too thought of plants when i read those lines and now that i see yep it does fit with that scene, ppl also mentioned abt the book "Through the Looking-Glass" for that sope scene, in the book the character enters a world through a glass/mirror, and in this world everything is mirrored even the actions (like running helps you remain stationary). Maybe this could tell how when joon is moving others are still/frozen.
dayyum my mind is working rn lmao
@@aizlynrose6830 Yeah, it's exciting right!! Yes, Jungkook is definitely aware now.
Yeah, I just really looked at the lyrics and Joon's part stood out to me. I know about "Through the Looking-Glass." It's the sequel to Alice in Wonderland.
But the Yoongi and Hoseok scene could also be about the shadow and ego. It also reminded me of Coraline and MirrorMask both stories by Neil Gaiman. The other world is strange and some points very dark in nature even with all the colors in Coraline. MirrorMask is just a really dark storyline, but I feel like it can relate to Map of the Soul and the shadow aspect of the soul.
And yes, you're right that could be why Joon is moving and the others are frozen in time. It's still vague so, we'll just have to wait and see if there is more about it in May with BTS's new Korean album or something.
@@AwakeningWings I agree the shadow and ego theory does fit more nicely, I haven't read abt those books so I'll surely try to look into them
@@aizlynrose6830 Yeah :)
I've read so many things about shadow and ego. It's nice cause I'm also looking for the map of the soul, well my soul lol
I mean I'm working on myself and learning to love myself more, it's why I still remember most of this stuff.
Also, the movies of those books are nice too.
OMG!
I really hope that if BTS don't renew their contract after 2026 and disband they'll release a clear explanation of their Universe because WE NEED IT. (but it's kinda obvious we're not gonna get that because, you know, HYBE is HYBE they like to play with us)
Fun fact: Signal is actually a very good K-Drama and I'm so excited for the Japanese Version.🥺
(if anyone sees this comment: watch signal on Netflix!🥺)
Random but what if the place in stay gold is a similar equivalent to magic island?
Both Taes of hybe entertainment are observers I get it hybe I get it 🤙
Oh my, Taehyung just made a pineapple drink on their Vlive...with Suga & Jhope🥰💜💜💜🍍🍍🍍🌻🌻🌈🌈🌈🍍🍍🍍💜💜💜🌈🌈🌈...what do you believe in?😁💜
All of these are also connected in GFverse 😉
If blue means the imaginary aspect and red is the true reality then mixing those together makes purple! Not entirely sure how this fits into the theory but Borahae 💜
I read somewhere that yellow represent joy and friendship but on contrary it also represents danger. Can it be that jin is in danger as he is stuck in the time loop...?
Me in 2018: I’m not gonna get into the timeline, it’s way to confusing.
Me one day later: OMG THIS IS SO COOL!
I think u and xCeleste should collab bc she does bighit theories as well
The doors remind me of Doraemon XD
Am I the only one who can see parallels between txt and BTS member's characters? For example, Yeonjun and Jin seem similar, Kai and Jungkook seem similar etc.
is seventeen is included or connected to hybe universe too?
ykw let me bring those infinity stones
I think in Notes, Jungkook's conversation with Cat happens when he was hit by car. Cat asked him if he want to live, and at that moment he actually wants, because he finally was with his hyungs at that day. So Cat gives Jungkook chance to live and they form a contract, that can be proved by words of doctors, they said that the fact that Jungkook alive is a miracle. And the price Jungkook paid is his memories and connection to hyungs. So in the end he filled with anger and literally wants to kill hyungs.
UPD:
I think memories is always a payment for contract with Cat
1) Jin pays with his memories for ability to save his friends.
2) Jungkook pays with his memories for his life. He doesn't remember of happy times with hyungs and this why he goes paranoid and separated from other.
3) GFriend pays with their memories in third Märchen book for Eunha's ability to use butterflys to save girls
4) TXT pays with their memories about childhood for ???(i am not really into their storyline yet)
the meaning of red is really confusing to me in terms of the Enhypen storyline because in 20 Cube they go through the red light and end up in the museum(?)
Do u think the Ithaca Holdings artists will join the universe?
Nah because the korean groups are specifically under “hybe labels” where as that is under “hybe America” so it’s a different branch of the company and I personally find it unlikely
@@LainaSunflower ahhh fair enough
lol i was once wild-thinking on how all the artists might be having these whole universes and one day BAAM it turns out it was all connected xD yk normal 3 am thoughts