I really appreciate your format, all of the needed info is presented clearly without all the waffle. It's far easier to follow than listening to someone ramble on about themselves for 30 minutes!
This was a great review really in depth. I bought my goggles second hand and they didn't come with a manual but your video was my manual. Thanks brother
Fitment vs optics: I've found that while the thicker pad is far more comfortable, the thinner pad puts my eyes closer to the optics which makes the entire screen clearly visible... I've been considering thickening the pad only at the outer edges to help comfort/light leak a bit without compromising the view quality. Power consumption/quadversity: I removed the right side module, and my battery life on the small battery went from 5 packs to about 15. With a second goggle battery, and the ability to run them off of a USB power bank (or a USB cable from the USB output of my 1s field charger that runs off of xt60), I haven't had any problem with running out of juice. I don't have enough patches to care for quadversity, but found removing the second module smoothed out antenna transitions between the two on the left module. More than acceptable for my current flying/locations. Screens look great to me, maybe those guys would need to use the color adjustments to their liking.... But the menu interface is horrible. And the beeping is ferocious. Considering a new module lately to have a different channel scan that isn't so slow and beeeeepy.
Thank you for the detailed feedback. Thin foampad was not an option for my face, tons of light leak and my lashes touched the lens assembly all the time. I also felt the de-fogging fan on my eyes which can definitely dry them and become annoying. I agree with you on the removal of the second module to reduce power consumption but this defeats the purpose and price point "advantage" of the EV200D - using a different module does too. Unless they sell it as a barebones option with no receivers at all and a lower price. I liked how the screen looked as well but this is a personal taste too. Adjusting the saturation could help, that is true, but I have seen several similar comments on RCGroups and other discussion threads.
Has anyone with a 3D printer considered using flexible filament to print a light-blocking 'skirt' to retro fit on top of / around the foam insert, lapping between the foam and the face? - 'Just a thought.
Or, has anyone tried fitting the Fat Shark 'leather' face plate pads to the EV200D faceplate? Can it be made to fit? I find the EV200 stock foam pads too flimsy. The foam tears easily and the felt lining peels off too easily.
To follow up what I previously said about the 200D goggle DVR. I recalled that I DID have a good video from these goggles when I first got them. I went back into my stuff and found I had made a video showing both the vids from the Caddx cam and the 200D goggles in a video I made of my Full Speed Tiny Leader 2s HD whoop. The DVR goggle video was great! But subsequent videos from the 200D were blown out "hot" looking. What was the difference? Seems that those AIO cams on my small whoops don't record good on the goggles but the HD cams do. That's the problem. I don't need the goggle DVR when I have a drone with its own HD DVR built in. It's on the small drones without a DVR and lower grade cam that you need the quality DVR in the goggles. That where the 200D fails. It doesn't record what you see from those small cameras such as Tiny Hawks.
I bought EV200D about a half of a year ago and i can't say anything wrong about these goggles. As You mentioned , it's a battery eater with stock quadversity setup. Battery lasts for about an hour of flying. I've swapped stock recievers with the Eachine Pro58 and the battery "started" to last about 20-25 mins longer than before. That's a noticeable change. Overall EV200D is a good product and worth of it's price. The dvr is annoying some times but the screens resolution repays that nuance. With no doubt i can say it's good to have that goggles in my backpack :)
I am very happy to hear you enjoy them and thank you for the feedback. Did you notice worse reception with the Pro58, compared to the quadversity setup?
@@muteFPV With original firmware there was a noticeable difference. Lot of statics here and there, especialy in tighter and more "multipath" enviroments. I've uploaded "Pirx FPV" firmware into the reciever and there was a nice surprise both in functionality and reception. Image became more solid and stable And of course more enjoyable ;) This firmware is a freeware but despite that fact is packed with some functionality improving goodness. Worth to test at least :)
@@muteFPV I plan to buy AchilleS in the future just to have a comparsion. Maybe the price is not the friend but AchilleS devs pulled out some juicy bits from the reciever for sure
Great review, I own ones already, and my observations are in line with yours. A minor thing, you wrote in the comparison that the receiver(s) is built in, when it should be modular. You show the modularity not thirty seconds earlier, so I was a bit puzzled. That actually was one of the points that got me to buy them (along with their high resolution and affordability). Looking forward to more videos!
I love my ev200d, antenna choice and placement is key for good dual diversity (it's not really quad diversity, its dual x2) also you can power them with 3s or 4s lipo (just make an xt60 to dc barrel adapter) I forget the max voltage but 4s works great! I also power them with 12v ac to dc adapter when flying close to power outlet, or 12v from car. Great review!
So having chats with owners of these and the general consensus is that the dual diversity might not be the best way to fly if you’ve got decent antenna and using 1 module. The module will swap to the other only on a very low RSSI from one providing the other has higher RSSI. Which unless you’re flying directly behind you and you have a patch facing backwards on the second module, will probably not happen. Taking one module out, using decent antennas on the one should give you best overall performance as it’s not draining the battery as much either. Would you tend to agree?
Yes, I would agree, as long as you fly in the range of the antennas of course, as you described. I have not compared the dual modules extensively to other single-module receivers but I suppose their strongest use case would be with very high-gain directional antennas, were one would not cover the whole "front" area of the pilot.
@@muteFPV "would you still buy them?" I do own a pair, only recently purchased. I probably would still purchase if I knew, because of the price point. They are still an ok goggle with removable module, so in theory on a par with others at a much higher price point.
@@muteFPV "their strongest use case would be with very high-gain directional antennas" Yes that is indeed the strongest case, and in most scenarios is edge case. So if I was flying a mixed flight that went in front and behind me a lot, with obstacles, the 2 modules would be best.
Can somebody explain to me how to record with DVR? Its not working for me. I put the microSD card in the googles, power them on, then press around 10 sec to get into the REC Menu and then i press DVR button for 1 second and after my flight i also press the DVR button to stop the recording. But then there is no recording showing when i want to watch it on the googles. Even on my pc it says the microSD card is empty? Any tips or did I do something wrong?
I am pretty sure I have seen people do it. I don't have the goggles anymore but the 5V power delivery for the module bay should be enough, since it is designed to power 2 modules at once. Just remove both of the stock modules if you use something else.
I got my EV200D:s used for 120€ and so far they have felt like best purchase I ever made, I love the screen quality and size. EV-800D box goggle works great as pair with these, I use it as just display / DVR and monitor for people who wonder what is going on, cause the EV-200D DVR is not very good quality in my opinion. If I was just starting out I would get the EV-800D:s first even now, cause they will complement what ever goggles you get later nicely.
I never liked headboxes but I agree, the EV-800D is a great value for money option and extremely convenient as a spectator monitor / monitor for troubleshooting on the bench. Sounds like a good bargain you got there for the EV200D!
@@muteFPV image quality is very good. Can switch from 16:9 to 4:3. Larger fov is in 16:9. No light leakage with thick foam for me. Comfortable on my face. I have idp adjusted all the way in. Works great for me. Has 2 fans. Electronics cooling fan always on. Once I'm flying I don't notice it. But you will hear it when you plug in. To initialize the dvr takes about 10 secs. Once initialized turning dvr on / off is quick. DVR footage is decent. Receivers have good reception. Can use rapidfire module. Auto scan is so slow so why bother. Use manual selection. Battery life not good. I bought fatshark 18650 battery case. Eachine customer service is questionable. Very good value for the price. I'd buy them again. Hope this helps. Happy flying. 🤓
Hello, I am sorry I am very new in fpv. This goggles is same or compatible with Dji hd goggles? Can i use it with my Caddx nebula dji system? Thank you.
Hello and welcome to our awesome and very frustrating hobby :) No, these goggles are NOT compatible with the DJI FPV system. For the time being only the DJI FPV goggles are compatible with the Nebula or Airunit DJI FPV systems (there is a DJI monitor that can receive and output the video feed to other goggles but it is too expensive to recommend).
When my goggles are first powered up they take minutes to lock on to channel. Pressing channel up/down might help get a lock sooner. Anyone else have this problem?
If you mean autoscan, it is usually slow. If you select the frequency manually, don't you get a clear image immediately? Unless you are spectating others, it is recommended that you manually set the exact frequency you are using on your VTx, otherwise the autoscan may choose the wrong one (a closeby frequency that will drop as soon as you fly further away).
@@muteFPV Thank you. When I select the frequency manually it takes minutes for it to lock on, and I have to channel up/down to get it to show. Sounds like my case is not typical. That's what I needed to know.
So for example, the VTx is at F4 (5800MHz), you select F4 5800MHz in the goggles, it does not show anything, and if you go to F3 and then back to F4 it shows image?
Great video I have the ev300d I never use googles I'm new on the hobby so I'm watching all that I can watch to learn thank udo we need to use all the connectors to put all the antenas or can I use only two antenas
You can use two antennas and just one of the two modules. Keep in mind that you may experience latency issues with the EV300D goggles. I have high latency with mine and am waiting to see if there will be a fix or replacement by Eachine.
@@muteFPV hy and thank u for all the info have giving us now yes I heard about the latency also from others now if they fix that problem how they will do by upgrading the receiver on the googles by internet ?
@@muteFPV sadly no, their customer support can't really give me an idea of when they'll arrive from China to their warehouse. I know their shipping and it's normally awesome, went to buy these on the morning of payday and they went out of stock during the process lol bad luck is a very real thing. In the meantime I even bought a pair of ev800d and a tiny hawk just to have SOMETHING to fly.
@@muteFPV Awwww man, really? I don't go in for omens! And I don't want to miss out on getting all the extras at a discount either...I'm gonna just be patient. Great review again, as usual. I really appreciate your perspective on FPV hobby video production and expertise.
For 2 years now ive been using the jjpro rc f01 box goggles. Been thinking bout gettin these. I bet they blow my box goggles away even with a little blurry edges and quadversity compared to no diversity. Yay or nay should i get them?
Unfortunately FPV goggles is a very personal matter. The EV200D are very good value for money, perform well overall and definitely are a big step up from the box goggles you described. But buying without trying them first is always a risk, they may fit your face perfectly or may not fit it well. If there is a local FPV club where you live, try messaging them in case there already is someone with a pair of EV200D so you can try it.
So based on your feeling what would you recommend in the 300 USD/EUR price range? Commanders, dom V3 or these? I’m honestly torn and eventually stick to my box goggles 😁
I can't speak for the V1 / V1S commanders because I have not tried them yet - hopefully soon. Between Dom V3 and EV200D, if you can live with the usability cons of the EV200D, the FOV and overall image you see is very nice for their price. On the other hand the Dom V3 have been discontinued and maybe you can find an irresistibly cheap deal for a second-hand pair. Trying the goggles beforehand would be great, if someone at your local club has them.
With the laws in my country, FPV is borderline legal... And clubs don’t really exist. So forget about trying a pair before buying :-S But I got it, Dom or EV200 is more or less the same...
That is so sad to hear :( I wouldn't say they are similar. DomV3 is closer to the V1S and Sky02X. FOV is probably the main difference that sets the EV200D apart. Quadversity is fine but there are plenty of diversity modules that perform very well too.
Just saw your second comment, yours is the first feedback I get for the bar I added! I am glad to hear you liked it, it is extra editing work that I hope makes the videos easier to follow :)
If only using 1 module like a LaForge instead of using 2 modules as it comes with, wouldn’t this increase battery life? Also does anyone know if LaForge will work with these, or RapidFire?
Yes, using a single diversity module, or a Laforge set of modules, would increase battery life a bit. The goggles themselves are power hungry too, not just the receivers. You can also just use one of the stock receivers instead of both. LaForge should work fine, not sure about RapidFire because of its power requirements - I have not tried it so I cannot confirm.
Do you have by any chance opened the goggles and know wether the DVR is on a seperate expansion like PCB or know the partnumber of the used IC? Would love to retrofit this into my fatsharks as my DVR died (however that happened is still a mistery to me). As always great video. I don't know why but I really like the new progressbar in the upper area
Thank you very much, especially for the feedback about the new bar ;) I have not opened the goggles, I will get back to you if I manage to obtain this info elsewhere
*Vincent* - I've seen some 1080p 30/60fps DVR units for £10 - £15 on banggAli - mountable either end: aloft or on goggles. Did you not claim warranty on FS?
@@johnd.ingleson799 Wow interesting. I will have a look. Warranty? Last time I send them to the UK it took over two months from germany and they came back worse then I sent them in (anyone remember the whole HD3 optics catastrophy?) I lost complete trust in fatshark because of this and them refusing to innovate. Also I loved the menu and everything about the ev200 DVR. Would buy them only to harvest the DVR IC. I would totally design a PCB only to have that in my hd3s. Maybe its only me having to much free time ;) (and desparetly finding a use for my desktop CNC)
@@VincentFischer " ... _Satisfactory quality Goods shouldn't be faulty or damaged when you receive them. You should ask what a reasonable person would consider satisfactory for the goods in question. For example, bargain-bucket products won’t be held to as high standards as luxury goods..._ * www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act
If I remember correctly you move and hold the mode/menu button to the left. I moved to a new place and still have these packed in boxes, can't check right now.
@@muteFPV I have a swift 2 .. The other camera I have is not compatible.. I switch out to my True D and it is fine.. This is in the early evening when I fly after work
@@muteFPV I mainly freestyle up in the mountains where I live.. I have a pair of avegant glyphs that are 16x9 that I used to fly with a groundstation and hdmi converter.. Just was tired of carrying all that stuff around.. So I have some 16x9 cameras still.. But I get paid on wed. and on ebay Fatsharks T2 HD2..340.00 or EV200D 305.00 +Antennas.. My problem is my eyes arent that great so I need good resolution ..which goggles do you think?
If I have understood it correctly, it will operate with the left one as primary and not operate the right one. If you are not using the 2 stock modules you are advised to remove both, if you decide to use a different module.
Mhhhh, I still love my Ev800D, but the smaler size would look less stupid when I fly outside my Backyard. And i like the big single screen better than two tiny ones. Anyway, great review dude✌🏼😉
Thank you very much :) It definitely is a very personal matter. Others like headboxes, others like goggles, others small FOV, others large ;) If the EV800D work well for you and your needs, don't care about the looks. We look ridiculous to people outside the hobby anyway :P :P :P
I think they need to make goggles that have a massive FOV just like the EV800D's. Until then I'd settle for a OLED screen version of the EV800D's which work well anyway.
@Change Agent huge FOV would be great but I am pretty sure that the optics is the hardest part to design in FPV goggles. So far all the large FOV goggles I have tried suffer from edge blurring, which essentially makes the extra screen real estate useless. It is more immersive but the blurred portion is unusable.
@@muteFPV Yep but metasurface flat optics which have no spherical aberration are almost mainstream and when combined with OLED which needs no backlight will enable some amazingly thin tech. I have a vague recolection we may have already chatted about this a few months back. 😁
I think they are their lowest price ever right now. It is a decent set of goggles - not perfect and with a high power consumption. If you fly 16:9 I think they are a good choice at this price.
It is a very personal matter, noone could / should give you a definitive answer. Some prefer headboxes, some prefer this type of goggles. I started with a DIY set of Quanum headbox from Hobbyking and I felt it was a huge upgrade when I switched to the Attitude V3, for example.
They should really sell these (or the 300s) with one (or no) diversity module for cheaper, and give you the option of what you want to go with, including maybe a competitive high-end di/quadversity set from them.
I agree, skyzone should do that too (and have a modular bay ofcourse). Maybe the cost of these modules is very low and they prefer to include them in order to make the goggle price more appealing, I doubt they would sell them, for example, USD50 lower without modules.
@@muteFPV Exactly, take a page from FS but without the ridiculous price. FPV goggles should focus on optics and ergonomics first, that's what we're really shopping for. There are plenty of open source diversity modules available to choose from, and the budget and even knockoff ones perform quite well, outperforming most integrated receivers. Eochine seems to have done pretty well on this one, though the quad seems mostly a gimmick. They could have just stuck their $20 diversity unit in them for those that want a ready to go set and spend the development money elsewhere. Good to see them trying new things though, wonder if they plan on selling the quad unit on it's own.
@@muteFPV I'm a newbie that hasn't flown yet - just buying the kit (FrySky 9X SE carbon fibre, and 9SM? RX module, _so far_ - no pun intended, LOL!). I'm waiting for these EV200D lovelies via chinesium BG ATM. 'Ruled out the FatSharks on basis of price / value for money. 'Nearly bought the latest Skyzone 3? goggles for the head-tracking but decided to go with bigger / higher res screen on these beauties, for now. BTW - I'm interested to know if you can tell me what happened to stereoscopic (3D) tech for FPV? Someone told me that there used to be something like that but didn't explain why it failed? I have an ancient PPL that I can't afford to keep current now and so I'm into into PC flight sims and just bought a pair of Windows Mixed Media (WMM) Panasonic Explorer goggles which can be used for stereoscopic 3D flight simming - dope! Do you know if anyone is using WMM goggles to FPV - 'would need a powerful / expensive 'VR-Ready' (min 1070 GPU) laptop to power in the field, though! Thanks for the parts / spares / consumables links for these. TIA
Hi@@johnd.ingleson799! Prepare yourself for many expenses and many thrills :P I hope the goggles arrive soon and fit you well! Skyzone SKY03 is a very appealing set of goggles too, I am waiting to see how the latest updated version performs. I am completely unfamiliar with stereoscopic / 3D for FPV. There used to be dual cameras with a bit of separation - if I recall correctly you received the video feed with 2 separate receivers and displayed it one on each display/eye (Skyzone had this as a kit too I think). This was supposed to give a perception of depth but worked well only when close to a subject/object. I assume the heavy weight and large size of such setup and the speeds we are flying at with FPV were the reasons it never "took off". As for a VR headset essentially streaming the flight video feed from a laptop, I expect latency to be your main enemy there. This can definitely "disconnect" you from the immersive FPV flying and probably nauseate you too.
@@muteFPV Thanks for the insightful reply. Perhaps a wider distance between stereo cameras might enhance the depth perception. I was daydreaming of fitting it to a good-sized warbird wing such as a Dakota to practice circuits and touch 'n goes ... zzz ..
I donated my old 200D's to some thieves... the Aomway V1 I'm using now are OK, but as soon as I can afford to I will get another set of Eachines and a shit load of antennas. My best reception has been when using these goggles and experimenting with antennas.
Never donate anything of value to thieves.. It has been in my experience they never give you anything back.. I have seen your videos and wondered why you stopped with the 200ds..now I know
Thank you @Alex. I agree with @Huckaberry, the V1S from Aomway and the Sky02X from Skyzone are very close in specs, although they have significantly smaller FOV compared to the EV200D. Aomway V1 has been extremely popular and I will probably get my hands on the V1S to see how they stack up.
Got these goggles a couple months ago. I do like them but for one thing, the DVR is awful!!! Your DVR video is fine. Mine is blown out bright. I did a firmware update. It now shows the corrected updated version number in the DVR menu screen but only a verrry slight improvement in video. No adjustment for brightness or contrast that I can find. My FTX Vipers have a great DVR and I will use them for my non SD card models. I would still buy these for the money and other features but totally dissappointed with the DVR. If I could have ONLY one pair of goggles I'd keep the Vipers and put up with their "clunky" size.
Damn! That review is awesome! How long have you used these for? And how often? Quality is a big issue on these, especially with the display controller cooking. Got a link to the barrel plug extension cord? A few notes: - you can remove the annoying fan and reverse the defogging check @vadym here t.me/EV200D - a second axii with the same polarization is useless. In high multipathing environment like this, I read that an LHCP + RHCP do wonder, at least with a rapidfire - These can eat up to 4s, which is good because when voltage drops sync also drops, in mid flight. Battery bank in the back pocket, long cable to the eachine lipo also works.
Glad you liked it, thank you for the notes. These did not become my primary goggles so I haven't used them extensively, nor abused them. I try to use goggles for at least 1 month before publishing a review, which is enough to notice all positives and negatives but not enough to have a definitive opinion for the reliability. I think the extension cord was from the Flysight Falcon, I was looking to buy more of the same and couldn't find it.
I haven't had any "expensive" products fail but for cheaper ones I have gotten a replacement or refund without much effort. I doubt they would replace the goggles though in case of failure, probably they would request to send them back, which will definitely be a pain.
Is it just me or is this "quad diversity" more like regular diversity, only with two extra antenna fixtures 4 the fly hards? I've never ever seen these quad-diversity-goggles outperform other diversity goggles. Which is something you would expect. For instance, within a 50 yard range in a one-on-one comparison to a "regular" diversity goggle simply flying behind some shrubbery. One would expect the 4 antenna's to have better penetration and a better signal relay in comparison. But this is not the case from what I've seen from this goggle to date. This unit has 4 antennas! But somehow never seems to outperform regular diversity goggles, even in "Echine favourable conditions". Just makes me wonder.. if it's not just regular diversity. Hiped and sold to the fly hards. Also as they seemed to have bolloxed up many of the other stuff like a 10 seconds dvr press... wth?! Dvr-audio-sync issues, sd card issues, and multiplbe screen viewability issues. Who's to say that they've actually put 'true'-quad-diversity in these goggles. They seem to perform like regular goggles, only with more antenna's to boast about and burn yer pack on. Just my two cents.. Love your vids Mute. New sub here' .
I understand your concerns but the "strong suit" of this setup would be to have a wide coverage all around you, not improved performance towards a specific direction. Using 1x omni and 3x high gain patches should wield the best results, but it is to heavy and bulky for my taste.
I really appreciate your format, all of the needed info is presented clearly without all the waffle. It's far easier to follow than listening to someone ramble on about themselves for 30 minutes!
Thank you very much! :D
This was a great review really in depth. I bought my goggles second hand and they didn't come with a manual but your video was my manual. Thanks brother
Thank you very much! I hope you enjoy them :)
Fitment vs optics: I've found that while the thicker pad is far more comfortable, the thinner pad puts my eyes closer to the optics which makes the entire screen clearly visible... I've been considering thickening the pad only at the outer edges to help comfort/light leak a bit without compromising the view quality.
Power consumption/quadversity: I removed the right side module, and my battery life on the small battery went from 5 packs to about 15. With a second goggle battery, and the ability to run them off of a USB power bank (or a USB cable from the USB output of my 1s field charger that runs off of xt60), I haven't had any problem with running out of juice.
I don't have enough patches to care for quadversity, but found removing the second module smoothed out antenna transitions between the two on the left module. More than acceptable for my current flying/locations.
Screens look great to me, maybe those guys would need to use the color adjustments to their liking.... But the menu interface is horrible. And the beeping is ferocious. Considering a new module lately to have a different channel scan that isn't so slow and beeeeepy.
Thank you for the detailed feedback.
Thin foampad was not an option for my face, tons of light leak and my lashes touched the lens assembly all the time. I also felt the de-fogging fan on my eyes which can definitely dry them and become annoying.
I agree with you on the removal of the second module to reduce power consumption but this defeats the purpose and price point "advantage" of the EV200D - using a different module does too. Unless they sell it as a barebones option with no receivers at all and a lower price.
I liked how the screen looked as well but this is a personal taste too. Adjusting the saturation could help, that is true, but I have seen several similar comments on RCGroups and other discussion threads.
@@muteFPV ah yes, eyelashes could be very annoying. I haven't had to run the fog fan yet, actually had forgotten it existed until this video lol
:P
Has anyone with a 3D printer considered using flexible filament to print a light-blocking 'skirt' to retro fit on top of / around the foam insert, lapping between the foam and the face? - 'Just a thought.
Or, has anyone tried fitting the Fat Shark 'leather' face plate pads to the EV200D faceplate? Can it be made to fit? I find the EV200 stock foam pads too flimsy. The foam tears easily and the felt lining peels off too easily.
To follow up what I previously said about the 200D goggle DVR. I recalled that I DID have a good video from these goggles when I first got them. I went back into my stuff and found I had made a video showing both the vids from the Caddx cam and the 200D goggles in a video I made of my Full Speed Tiny Leader 2s HD whoop. The DVR goggle video was great! But subsequent videos from the 200D were blown out "hot" looking. What was the difference? Seems that those AIO cams on my small whoops don't record good on the goggles but the HD cams do. That's the problem. I don't need the goggle DVR when I have a drone with its own HD DVR built in. It's on the small drones without a DVR and lower grade cam that you need the quality DVR in the goggles. That where the 200D fails. It doesn't record what you see from those small cameras such as Tiny Hawks.
I bought EV200D about a half of a year ago and i can't say anything wrong about these goggles. As You mentioned , it's a battery eater with stock quadversity setup. Battery lasts for about an hour of flying. I've swapped stock recievers with the Eachine Pro58 and the battery "started" to last about 20-25 mins longer than before. That's a noticeable change.
Overall EV200D is a good product and worth of it's price. The dvr is annoying some times but the screens resolution repays that nuance. With no doubt i can say it's good to have that goggles in my backpack :)
I am very happy to hear you enjoy them and thank you for the feedback. Did you notice worse reception with the Pro58, compared to the quadversity setup?
@@muteFPV With original firmware there was a noticeable difference. Lot of statics here and there, especialy in tighter and more "multipath" enviroments. I've uploaded "Pirx FPV" firmware into the reciever and there was a nice surprise both in functionality and reception. Image became more solid and stable And of course more enjoyable ;) This firmware is a freeware but despite that fact is packed with some functionality improving goodness. Worth to test at least :)
@@Fisiek_Inferator yep, many people have told me about Pirx. I had flashed mine with AchilleS +OSD mod and never changed it.
@@muteFPV I plan to buy AchilleS in the future just to have a comparsion. Maybe the price is not the friend but AchilleS devs pulled out some juicy bits from the reciever for sure
1:43 consumption test was with 1 or 2 receivers?
The consumption shown is with both receivers
Great review, I own ones already, and my observations are in line with yours. A minor thing, you wrote in the comparison that the receiver(s) is built in, when it should be modular. You show the modularity not thirty seconds earlier, so I was a bit puzzled. That actually was one of the points that got me to buy them (along with their high resolution and affordability). Looking forward to more videos!
Thank you very much for the feedback, that is a silly mistake from my side (I hate mistakes) :(
I love my ev200d, antenna choice and placement is key for good dual diversity (it's not really quad diversity, its dual x2) also you can power them with 3s or 4s lipo (just make an xt60 to dc barrel adapter) I forget the max voltage but 4s works great! I also power them with 12v ac to dc adapter when flying close to power outlet, or 12v from car. Great review!
Thank you for the feedback! I am happy to hear you enjoy using them :)
Erich antennas do you Use?
I subscribe 30sec into the video because of the exceptional editing !
Thank you very much!
LMAO they put a power angry fan in it lol
Great video as always boss :)
Hope you are doing well!
Have a great week and keep on flying :)
You too mate!
I haven't measured each part separately but I doubt the always-on fan is the culprit.
So having chats with owners of these and the general consensus is that the dual diversity might not be the best way to fly if you’ve got decent antenna and using 1 module. The module will swap to the other only on a very low RSSI from one providing the other has higher RSSI. Which unless you’re flying directly behind you and you have a patch facing backwards on the second module, will probably not happen. Taking one module out, using decent antennas on the one should give you best overall performance as it’s not draining the battery as much either.
Would you tend to agree?
Yes, I would agree, as long as you fly in the range of the antennas of course, as you described. I have not compared the dual modules extensively to other single-module receivers but I suppose their strongest use case would be with very high-gain directional antennas, were one would not cover the whole "front" area of the pilot.
Do you own the EV200D? If yes: if you knew from the beginning that you would end up using just one module, would you still buy them?
@@muteFPV "would you still buy them?" I do own a pair, only recently purchased. I probably would still purchase if I knew, because of the price point. They are still an ok goggle with removable module, so in theory on a par with others at a much higher price point.
@@muteFPV "their strongest use case would be with very high-gain directional antennas" Yes that is indeed the strongest case, and in most scenarios is edge case. So if I was flying a mixed flight that went in front and behind me a lot, with obstacles, the 2 modules would be best.
Thank you for the feedback!
Can somebody explain to me how to record with DVR? Its not working for me. I put the microSD card in the googles, power them on, then press around 10 sec to get into the REC Menu and then i press DVR button for 1 second and after my flight i also press the DVR button to stop the recording. But then there is no recording showing when i want to watch it on the googles. Even on my pc it says the microSD card is empty? Any tips or did I do something wrong?
Great side by side footage. Do these have the capability to enable an onscreen RSSI indicator for tracking down lost quads?
Thank you! As far as I remember there is no such option.
Can you use the Rapidfire or Fusion modules with it?
I am pretty sure I have seen people do it. I don't have the goggles anymore but the 5V power delivery for the module bay should be enough, since it is designed to power 2 modules at once. Just remove both of the stock modules if you use something else.
I got my EV200D:s used for 120€ and so far they have felt like best purchase I ever made, I love the screen quality and size. EV-800D box goggle works great as pair with these, I use it as just display / DVR and monitor for people who wonder what is going on, cause the EV-200D DVR is not very good quality in my opinion. If I was just starting out I would get the EV-800D:s first even now, cause they will complement what ever goggles you get later nicely.
I never liked headboxes but I agree, the EV-800D is a great value for money option and extremely convenient as a spectator monitor / monitor for troubleshooting on the bench. Sounds like a good bargain you got there for the EV200D!
Love my ev200d goggles. Great image quality. Very good value.
That is good to hear :) Would love to hear your Pros & Cons for the EV200D, if you don't mind sharing!
@@muteFPV image quality is very good. Can switch from 16:9 to 4:3. Larger fov is in 16:9.
No light leakage with thick foam for me. Comfortable on my face. I have idp adjusted all the way in. Works great for me.
Has 2 fans. Electronics cooling fan always on. Once I'm flying I don't notice it. But you will hear it when you plug in.
To initialize the dvr takes about 10 secs. Once initialized turning dvr on / off is quick. DVR footage is decent. Receivers have good reception. Can use rapidfire module. Auto scan is so slow so why bother. Use manual selection. Battery life not good. I bought fatshark 18650 battery case.
Eachine customer service is questionable. Very good value for the price. I'd buy them again. Hope this helps. Happy flying. 🤓
Great summary, thank you :)
@@muteFPV you're welcome 🤓
John Larson glad to hear! I just got me a set
Hello, I am sorry I am very new in fpv. This goggles is same or compatible with Dji hd goggles? Can i use it with my Caddx nebula dji system? Thank you.
Hello and welcome to our awesome and very frustrating hobby :) No, these goggles are NOT compatible with the DJI FPV system. For the time being only the DJI FPV goggles are compatible with the Nebula or Airunit DJI FPV systems (there is a DJI monitor that can receive and output the video feed to other goggles but it is too expensive to recommend).
@@muteFPV Thank you. Very helpfull for me. I am learning many things for now, also your videos very helpfull too. 👍🏻✔
Thank you very much! Take it slow, step by step. It can be overwhelming in the beginning but you will figure everything out very quickly :)
When my goggles are first powered up they take minutes to lock on to channel. Pressing channel up/down might help get a lock sooner. Anyone else have this problem?
If you mean autoscan, it is usually slow. If you select the frequency manually, don't you get a clear image immediately?
Unless you are spectating others, it is recommended that you manually set the exact frequency you are using on your VTx, otherwise the autoscan may choose the wrong one (a closeby frequency that will drop as soon as you fly further away).
@@muteFPV Thank you. When I select the frequency manually it takes minutes for it to lock on, and I have to channel up/down to get it to show.
Sounds like my case is not typical. That's what I needed to know.
So for example, the VTx is at F4 (5800MHz), you select F4 5800MHz in the goggles, it does not show anything, and if you go to F3 and then back to F4 it shows image?
@@muteFPV YES! exactly. Sometime I will see a poor quality image at F3.
If the VTx is set to F4 and your goggles are at F3, it makes sense not to receive a clean image.
So would it be better to have 2 LHCP antennas on one side and 2 RHCP antennas on the other side?
Not sure, I haven't tried it
Great video I have the ev300d I never use googles I'm new on the hobby so I'm watching all that I can watch to learn thank udo we need to use all the connectors to put all the antenas or can I use only two antenas
You can use two antennas and just one of the two modules. Keep in mind that you may experience latency issues with the EV300D goggles. I have high latency with mine and am waiting to see if there will be a fix or replacement by Eachine.
@@muteFPV hy and thank u for all the info have giving us now yes I heard about the latency also from others now if they fix that problem how they will do by upgrading the receiver on the googles by internet ?
@@h2o-fpv623 I expect that they will be able to fix this problem just with a firmware update. I hope they do.
Ordered a pair from GetFPV over a month ago...and they're still on back order! I'll be getting these and a Mob7 in the same box.
That is sad to hear :S Any expected delivery date yet?
@@muteFPV sadly no, their customer support can't really give me an idea of when they'll arrive from China to their warehouse. I know their shipping and it's normally awesome, went to buy these on the morning of payday and they went out of stock during the process lol bad luck is a very real thing.
In the meantime I even bought a pair of ev800d and a tiny hawk just to have SOMETHING to fly.
Maybe it is a sign to cancel them :P Just joking!
@@muteFPV Awwww man, really? I don't go in for omens! And I don't want to miss out on getting all the extras at a discount either...I'm gonna just be patient. Great review again, as usual. I really appreciate your perspective on FPV hobby video production and expertise.
Thank you very much :) I hope you receive the goggles soon and enjoy them!
For 2 years now ive been using the jjpro rc f01 box goggles. Been thinking bout gettin these. I bet they blow my box goggles away even with a little blurry edges and quadversity compared to no diversity. Yay or nay should i get them?
Unfortunately FPV goggles is a very personal matter. The EV200D are very good value for money, perform well overall and definitely are a big step up from the box goggles you described. But buying without trying them first is always a risk, they may fit your face perfectly or may not fit it well. If there is a local FPV club where you live, try messaging them in case there already is someone with a pair of EV200D so you can try it.
So based on your feeling what would you recommend in the 300 USD/EUR price range? Commanders, dom V3 or these?
I’m honestly torn and eventually stick to my box goggles 😁
Btw as ever, great video! And that little red band at the top makes the whole vid even more on the beat. Excellent editing!
I can't speak for the V1 / V1S commanders because I have not tried them yet - hopefully soon. Between Dom V3 and EV200D, if you can live with the usability cons of the EV200D, the FOV and overall image you see is very nice for their price. On the other hand the Dom V3 have been discontinued and maybe you can find an irresistibly cheap deal for a second-hand pair. Trying the goggles beforehand would be great, if someone at your local club has them.
With the laws in my country, FPV is borderline legal... And clubs don’t really exist. So forget about trying a pair before buying :-S
But I got it, Dom or EV200 is more or less the same...
That is so sad to hear :( I wouldn't say they are similar. DomV3 is closer to the V1S and Sky02X. FOV is probably the main difference that sets the EV200D apart. Quadversity is fine but there are plenty of diversity modules that perform very well too.
Just saw your second comment, yours is the first feedback I get for the bar I added! I am glad to hear you liked it, it is extra editing work that I hope makes the videos easier to follow :)
Do you think these are still a good pick today?
Sure. If you are looking for (native) 16:9 goggles, your options are a bit limited. Skyzones are very nice too.
@@muteFPV Thanks for the reply. I've just bought the 300D. I hope they will be fine!
You will be very happy with the ev300d, I assume they have one of the more recent firmware flashed, which has improved the latency issues a lot.
If only using 1 module like a LaForge instead of using 2 modules as it comes with, wouldn’t this increase battery life?
Also does anyone know if LaForge will work with these, or RapidFire?
Yes, using a single diversity module, or a Laforge set of modules, would increase battery life a bit. The goggles themselves are power hungry too, not just the receivers. You can also just use one of the stock receivers instead of both. LaForge should work fine, not sure about RapidFire because of its power requirements - I have not tried it so I cannot confirm.
Do you have by any chance opened the goggles and know wether the DVR is on a seperate expansion like PCB or know the partnumber of the used IC? Would love to retrofit this into my fatsharks as my DVR died (however that happened is still a mistery to me). As always great video. I don't know why but I really like the new progressbar in the upper area
Thank you very much, especially for the feedback about the new bar ;) I have not opened the goggles, I will get back to you if I manage to obtain this info elsewhere
*Vincent* - I've seen some 1080p 30/60fps DVR units for £10 - £15 on banggAli - mountable either end: aloft or on goggles.
Did you not claim warranty on FS?
@@johnd.ingleson799 Wow interesting. I will have a look. Warranty? Last time I send them to the UK it took over two months from germany and they came back worse then I sent them in (anyone remember the whole HD3 optics catastrophy?) I lost complete trust in fatshark because of this and them refusing to innovate. Also I loved the menu and everything about the ev200 DVR. Would buy them only to harvest the DVR IC. I would totally design a PCB only to have that in my hd3s. Maybe its only me having to much free time ;) (and desparetly finding a use for my desktop CNC)
@@VincentFischer " ... _Satisfactory quality Goods shouldn't be faulty or damaged when you receive them. You should ask what a reasonable person would consider satisfactory for the goods in question. For example, bargain-bucket products won’t be held to as high standards as luxury goods..._ * www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act
is there a trick to bringing up the menu? i cant seem to get mine to come up
If I remember correctly you move and hold the mode/menu button to the left. I moved to a new place and still have these packed in boxes, can't check right now.
Do you still have high current consumption if you only fly with one receiver module?
It is lower but still high and defeats the whole purpose of buying the ev200d for having quadversity ;)
@@muteFPV you think it's not worth if you use "only" one diversity module?
@goku reception is good even with one of the receivers. But I think using a bigger battery (or having a spare) is a better "solution".
Very good video. Thank you. Greetings from Hungary .
You're welcome! Hello from Greece :)
i have attitude v3 with rapidfire but i am unhappy with how dark it seems in these goggles.. so i think i will try these ev200d out..
Is it dark with any camera, or with a specific setup?
@@muteFPV I have a swift 2 .. The other camera I have is not compatible.. I switch out to my True D and it is fine.. This is in the early evening when I fly after work
@@muteFPV will the rapidfire work with ev200d?
I haven't tried it, I think I have read that it can deliver adequate power for the rapidfire. Will you like 16:9, coming from the Attitudes?
@@muteFPV I mainly freestyle up in the mountains where I live.. I have a pair of avegant glyphs that are 16x9 that I used to fly with a groundstation and hdmi converter.. Just was tired of carrying all that stuff around.. So I have some 16x9 cameras still.. But I get paid on wed. and on ebay Fatsharks T2 HD2..340.00 or EV200D 305.00 +Antennas.. My problem is my eyes arent that great so I need good resolution ..which goggles do you think?
what would happen if u put 2 different modules in it?
If I have understood it correctly, it will operate with the left one as primary and not operate the right one. If you are not using the 2 stock modules you are advised to remove both, if you decide to use a different module.
What is your favorite brushed quadcopter mutefpv ?
I haven't flown any new brushed quads lately :)
Mhhhh, I still love my Ev800D, but the smaler size would look less stupid when I fly outside my Backyard.
And i like the big single screen better than two tiny ones.
Anyway, great review dude✌🏼😉
Thank you very much :) It definitely is a very personal matter. Others like headboxes, others like goggles, others small FOV, others large ;) If the EV800D work well for you and your needs, don't care about the looks. We look ridiculous to people outside the hobby anyway :P :P :P
I think they need to make goggles that have a massive FOV just like the EV800D's. Until then I'd settle for a OLED screen version of the EV800D's which work well anyway.
@Change Agent huge FOV would be great but I am pretty sure that the optics is the hardest part to design in FPV goggles. So far all the large FOV goggles I have tried suffer from edge blurring, which essentially makes the extra screen real estate useless. It is more immersive but the blurred portion is unusable.
@@muteFPV Yep but metasurface flat optics which have no spherical aberration are almost mainstream and when combined with OLED which needs no backlight will enable some amazingly thin tech. I have a vague recolection we may have already chatted about this a few months back. 😁
Yes I remember and I am pretty sure you had sent me a link to a video that I saw only very briefly (it was too long :P)
I love my EV200D goggles work great.
I am happy you like them, FPV goggles is a very personal matter :)
Are they worth buying in 2021 now for 168€???? Thanks mate! Καλες πτήσεις!
I think they are their lowest price ever right now. It is a decent set of goggles - not perfect and with a high power consumption. If you fly 16:9 I think they are a good choice at this price.
Καλές πτήσεις και σε εσένα!
@@muteFPV Do you think that switching from Headplay se box goggles to these , it will be an upgrade? Thanks!
It is a very personal matter, noone could / should give you a definitive answer. Some prefer headboxes, some prefer this type of goggles. I started with a DIY set of Quanum headbox from Hobbyking and I felt it was a huge upgrade when I switched to the Attitude V3, for example.
@@muteFPV That makes sense...since the cost is low I will give it a try, using your link.Thanks for all your help and videos!
They should really sell these (or the 300s) with one (or no) diversity module for cheaper, and give you the option of what you want to go with, including maybe a competitive high-end di/quadversity set from them.
I agree, skyzone should do that too (and have a modular bay ofcourse). Maybe the cost of these modules is very low and they prefer to include them in order to make the goggle price more appealing, I doubt they would sell them, for example, USD50 lower without modules.
@@muteFPV Exactly, take a page from FS but without the ridiculous price. FPV goggles should focus on optics and ergonomics first, that's what we're really shopping for. There are plenty of open source diversity modules available to choose from, and the budget and even knockoff ones perform quite well, outperforming most integrated receivers. Eochine seems to have done pretty well on this one, though the quad seems mostly a gimmick. They could have just stuck their $20 diversity unit in them for those that want a ready to go set and spend the development money elsewhere. Good to see them trying new things though, wonder if they plan on selling the quad unit on it's own.
@@macelius I think I saw the modules being sold separately recently. I also saw that they have a new set of goggles coming soon (!)
So happy I ordered these I love them
Glad to hear that :) What would be the pros and cons for you? I would love to hear more opinions from actual users.
@@muteFPV I'm a newbie that hasn't flown yet - just buying the kit (FrySky 9X SE carbon fibre, and 9SM? RX module, _so far_ - no pun intended, LOL!). I'm waiting for these EV200D lovelies via chinesium BG ATM.
'Ruled out the FatSharks on basis of price / value for money. 'Nearly bought the latest Skyzone 3? goggles for the head-tracking but decided to go with bigger / higher res screen on these beauties, for now.
BTW - I'm interested to know if you can tell me what happened to stereoscopic (3D) tech for FPV? Someone told me that there used to be something like that but didn't explain why it failed? I have an ancient PPL that I can't afford to keep current now and so I'm into into PC flight sims and just bought a pair of Windows Mixed Media (WMM) Panasonic Explorer goggles which can be used for stereoscopic 3D flight simming - dope! Do you know if anyone is using WMM goggles to FPV - 'would need a powerful / expensive 'VR-Ready' (min 1070 GPU) laptop to power in the field, though!
Thanks for the parts / spares / consumables links for these.
TIA
Hi@@johnd.ingleson799! Prepare yourself for many expenses and many thrills :P I hope the goggles arrive soon and fit you well!
Skyzone SKY03 is a very appealing set of goggles too, I am waiting to see how the latest updated version performs.
I am completely unfamiliar with stereoscopic / 3D for FPV. There used to be dual cameras with a bit of separation - if I recall correctly you received the video feed with 2 separate receivers and displayed it one on each display/eye (Skyzone had this as a kit too I think). This was supposed to give a perception of depth but worked well only when close to a subject/object. I assume the heavy weight and large size of such setup and the speeds we are flying at with FPV were the reasons it never "took off". As for a VR headset essentially streaming the flight video feed from a laptop, I expect latency to be your main enemy there. This can definitely "disconnect" you from the immersive FPV flying and probably nauseate you too.
@@muteFPV Thanks for the insightful reply. Perhaps a wider distance between stereo cameras might enhance the depth perception. I was daydreaming of fitting it to a good-sized warbird wing such as a Dakota to practice circuits and touch 'n goes ... zzz ..
@John Have you checked in the FliteTest forum? Maybe someone has already tackled this before
Amazing tests and comparison, dude! Great job! 😃
I don't know... I only have 2 sets of box goggles, so... Sure? LOL
Thank you mate :)
they are both 16x9 4x3 switchable
What part of the video do you refer to?
I donated my old 200D's to some thieves... the Aomway V1 I'm using now are OK, but as soon as I can afford to I will get another set of Eachines and a shit load of antennas. My best reception has been when using these goggles and experimenting with antennas.
That is so sad to hear :( I hope it never happens to you again mate
Never donate anything of value to thieves.. It has been in my experience they never give you anything back.. I have seen your videos and wondered why you stopped with the 200ds..now I know
@@vonster22 I was joking about donating, I actually got carjacked! The good news is now I have a new set of EV200D'S and a set of Aomways!
nice, thanks for reviewing these😎👍
You're welcome! :)
Hi, great test, it's my google after a long time and I like him. 👍 😁 🖐
Thanks, I am happy to hear you enjoy them :)
@@muteFPV 😃 👍
nice video as usual!!! i'm very conflicting between this model and the aomway commander v1
If you have time wait for the new aomways,they look promising,I have the v1's and they have been the beesknees🐝
Thank you @Alex. I agree with @Huckaberry, the V1S from Aomway and the Sky02X from Skyzone are very close in specs, although they have significantly smaller FOV compared to the EV200D. Aomway V1 has been extremely popular and I will probably get my hands on the V1S to see how they stack up.
@@muteFPV love all your vids👌
Thank you @Huckaberry!
Got these goggles a couple months ago. I do like them but for one thing, the DVR is awful!!! Your DVR video is fine. Mine is blown out bright. I did a firmware update. It now shows the corrected updated version number in the DVR menu screen but only a verrry slight improvement in video. No adjustment for brightness or contrast that I can find. My FTX Vipers have a great DVR and I will use them for my non SD card models. I would still buy these for the money and other features but totally dissappointed with the DVR. If I could have ONLY one pair of goggles I'd keep the Vipers and put up with their "clunky" size.
Damn, that's a bummer :( I can't think of a fix, haven't dealt with this problem. The Vipers are awesome, that is very true!
Damn! That review is awesome!
How long have you used these for? And how often? Quality is a big issue on these, especially with the display controller cooking. Got a link to the barrel plug extension cord?
A few notes:
- you can remove the annoying fan and reverse the defogging check @vadym here t.me/EV200D
- a second axii with the same polarization is useless. In high multipathing environment like this, I read that an LHCP + RHCP do wonder, at least with a rapidfire
- These can eat up to 4s, which is good because when voltage drops sync also drops, in mid flight. Battery bank in the back pocket, long cable to the eachine lipo also works.
Glad you liked it, thank you for the notes. These did not become my primary goggles so I haven't used them extensively, nor abused them. I try to use goggles for at least 1 month before publishing a review, which is enough to notice all positives and negatives but not enough to have a definitive opinion for the reliability. I think the extension cord was from the Flysight Falcon, I was looking to buy more of the same and couldn't find it.
👍👍👍 Thanks for the review. Already ordered to itself such. 👍👍👍
You're welcome :)
If only they had good customer service
I haven't had any "expensive" products fail but for cheaper ones I have gotten a replacement or refund without much effort. I doubt they would replace the goggles though in case of failure, probably they would request to send them back, which will definitely be a pain.
Πολύ καλά για την τιμή τους..καιρος να σπάσει το μονοπώλιο των fatshark...
Μπαααα αργεί ακόμα :) Θα έχουμε μπόλικα καινούρια μέσα στο έτος πάντως, άντε να δούμε...
Is it just me or is this "quad diversity" more like regular diversity, only with two extra antenna fixtures 4 the fly hards?
I've never ever seen these quad-diversity-goggles outperform other diversity goggles.
Which is something you would expect.
For instance, within a 50 yard range in a one-on-one comparison to a "regular" diversity goggle simply flying behind some shrubbery.
One would expect the 4 antenna's to have better penetration and a better signal relay in comparison.
But this is not the case from what I've seen from this goggle to date.
This unit has 4 antennas! But somehow never seems to outperform regular diversity goggles, even in "Echine favourable conditions".
Just makes me wonder.. if it's not just regular diversity. Hiped and sold to the fly hards.
Also as they seemed to have bolloxed up many of the other stuff like a 10 seconds dvr press... wth?!
Dvr-audio-sync issues, sd card issues, and multiplbe screen viewability issues.
Who's to say that they've actually put 'true'-quad-diversity in these goggles.
They seem to perform like regular goggles, only with more antenna's to boast about and burn yer pack on.
Just my two cents..
Love your vids Mute. New sub here' .
I understand your concerns but the "strong suit" of this setup would be to have a wide coverage all around you, not improved performance towards a specific direction. Using 1x omni and 3x high gain patches should wield the best results, but it is to heavy and bulky for my taste.
Fatshark fanboys jajajja imsge 6/10 etc... 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 The ev200d is the Best of quality-price. Only hdo is competition
Sounds like an eachine fanboy :P Honestly the usability issues were more annoying to me than any image quality related "issues".