Let me just point out, I don't know where some people get the idea that Chris forced Cathy to be with him at the end of Petals. Cathy even admitted that she didn't want Chris to move on (hence why she was angry that he slept with Yolanda), and don't forget that Cathy once demanded that Chris give up being a doctor and be with her forever. Also, it was Paul, near the end of Petals who suggested that Cathy be with Chris. Apart from the rape in the attic, the relationship between Cathy and Chris was not one-sided. Of course, it wasn't healthy, but when it comes right down to it, they wouldn't have survived without each other.
I was an reader for years. Then when VC Andrews passed away and her estate continued to write in her name... I could tell the difference immediately. Stopped mid book to look her up an confirm she was not the Author. The Flowers in the Attic series was one of her best works.
Thank you for the comment! First, I am in agreement about the Flowers in the Attic series being just amazing. Danielle (and quite a few fans on here) love the Heaven Casteel series even more. I love that series, too, but FITA will always be my favorite, in particular Petals on the Wind. And I love My Sweet Audrina. For me, however, I was able to enjoy the ghostwritten stuff, too (for a while anyway) because I actually read the Dollanganger series first, then I read the Cutler series. So, for me, the two styles blended together for a while. After the Cutlers, I read the Casteels, then the Landry series. By the time I got to the Landry series, I knew there was a ghostwriter, but I was able to still enjoy it. After that, I continued with the Logan and Hudson series...but they kind of lost me after that. I could not overlook the differences any longer.
@@411popCulturevideos Yep it was Heaven's series I had just began when I noticed the difference. I was able to tell where the story was going which I was never able to do before. (VC Andrews always shocked me) Which is what caused me to stop and see if she was still the real writer. I don't think I ever finished the first book. (Did Heaven and her husband die in a car crash?)
@@ancientsage1969 Yes, that is correct about Heaven and her husband, Logan. That occurred in "Gates of Paradise," which is told from Annie's (Heaven's daughter) POV. Although as far as the adaptations go from Lifetime, I did enjoy "Gates of Paradise" quite a bit. It is an easier story to adapt, as it takes place over a shorter period of time. I think the ghostwriter was definitely influenced by Stephen King's "Misery" for that novel.
For me, the worst sibling was Vera. She had her own trauma that made her the way she was, but even as a kid, she was horrible. I mean, she set up Audrina for what happened to her in the woods and later tried to kill her.
@@411popCulturevideos Yeah, I mean, a lot of the other siblings weren't the greatest, but god. Vera kind of takes the cake. She and both of Dawn's bio siblings, given Clara Sue causes the death of Dawn's baby and the entire thing with Phillip. I know some have mentioned Fanny, but at the very least, she tried to get better after Heaven's death and ended up being there for her daughter.
@@heatherduke5410 Clara Sue is definitely the other one at the top of my list. Phillip, too. I am looking forward to seeing them come to life in the upcoming adaptation! As far as Fanny, I do forgive her a lot in the end due to all that she does for Annie. Although she definitely received more love from Luke than Heaven, she did suffer quite a bit herself in her youth.
Fanny was a sicko of the highest order. She was insanely jealous of Heaven's Relationship with Logan. The Reverend Wise abused her sexually and got her pregnant with Darcy. Chris was just as disturbed in the sense he never wanted Cathy to be Happy with any other Man except him and in the long run he got his wish.
@@Muirmaiden Also when Cathy was married to Julian for Six Years she either went on about him or Paul. That would have gotten on anyone's last nerves. Chris was very delusional, when Jory was born he wanted to be known as Jory's Father. They also gravitated more towards Jory than Bart because Jory forgave them, where Bart never did.
Lol @ not inviting P and C over tea. But yes @ Vera. Throwing people down the stairs is awful, but the truly awful thing she did in setting up Audrina is unforgivable.
I can just imagine THAT tea party. I live in a small oil and gas town up North. Clara Sue would be saying, Are there truckers? I need a date! Philip would fall in love with my blond cat and be chasing it, crooning that Dawn's spirit was alive and well and in the cat... Nope, not making cuke sandwiches for that gong show!@@411popCulturevideos
Chris in all of The Dollananger Books was a pain in the backside. Very delusional. He really believed that Jory & Bart were "His" Sons. Also in Petals On The Wind, he should have moved out and let Cathy, Paul & the Children have some privacy. Cathy was just as bad not explaining that Chris was Their Uncle since they believed that he was Daddy Paul's Younger Brother. He was also very selfish, he still insisted in staying in Foxworth Hall, believing that their Mother Corrine would rescue them, etc but of course she didn't. Even in If There Be Thorns, he still felt sorry for her when he visited her at The Hospital.
I would say that Philip was the worst. Besides just being a total creep to Dawn for like yesrs. He just refused to accept that Dawn was his bloody sister. First he forces himself on Dawn, then when she died he starts his bullshit with poor Kristy!
Love Darkest Hour! Yeah, we decided to "sort of" focus mainly on just the siblings of the narrators of the main books in each series, in order to include the prequel narrators for categories such as "worst grandmother," etc. But, yes, Emily is definitely one of the worst siblings and great Aunts for sure. And we definitely agree also with Clara Sue and Vera. Each of them are terrible and incredibly dangerous.
Vera Adare , and Philip and Clara Sue Cutler were the worst. Fern Longchamp and Gisselle Dumas were quite bad also. Fanny Casteel was selfish and did a lot of bad things at first, but she redeemed herself later on by her care for Annie and Luke. The others never did anything to redeem themselves.
i have just read dollanganger and my sweet audrina so far, but I hated Vera over Chris. Vera was so evil even though she was driven to be that way. But Audrina so irritated me at times, she wasnt the sharpest tool in the shed, she gets the chance to escape the house and doesnt, i was like really??? I cant wait to read some of the other series..
I definitely have a different interpretation of Audrina, but your comment did make me laugh (in a good way). I think it was supposed to be the tragedy of Audrina, whether she was the first or second, her true nature was to give to her family. That is what Damien always wanted. He went the insane, awful way about going to get it, but Audrina's true nature was to be selfless. That being said, I always scream at the end of the novel: Noooo! Get out of there!!!
oh MAN, to me it was like her little sister took psychic control of Audrina and like, mind controlled her back. I wanted to read a fix-it fic where she gets out.
@@CheziahKattSylvia was close to Damien, she did not want to leave him. Damien could be cruel in some ways too, but he was not as evil as Vera. He really thought he was doing the right thing for Audrina by helping her to forget her trauma.
I say Clara Sue was the absolute worst. Girl had no conscience, no redemption arc and ended up hurting lots of innocent people. Philip was just as awful and was snobbish. Vera was just as terrible...no conscience, no remorse and plain mean and relentlessly cruel. Fanny was often bad and often mean, but in the last book, she shaped up, took an orphaned Annie under her wing and ended up remorseful for the poor way she had treated people.
I’d say Phillip was the worse cause he was infatuated with Dawn and then he was so messed up in Midnight Whisper and was going after Christie. I’m actually writing a fan fiction with what happened more with Christie, Gavin, Jefferson and more into what happened to Phillip, the twins and their mother
Phillip is definitely awful. I re-read the first three books of the series last year, and then just last month I finally re-read Midnight Whispers and Darkest Hour. I forgot just how terrible he was to Christie. He was terrible to Dawn, too, of course, but it really got to me this last time reading what he did to Christie. And that is awesome about the fan fiction! When I re-read Midnight Whispers, I totally was left wanting to know more what happened to Christie, Gavin, and Jefferson! And, of course, to see how "Aunt Bet" would have had to deal with how wrongly she treated Gavin and Christie. I wanted a bit more comeuppance for her and Fern!
I think that Clara Sue is the worst sibling because she caused Dawn's miscarriage! Like the others do horrible stuff but this incident always stayed with me!! AWFUL!
That is the point of no return for Clara Sue. She is definitely one of the worst! Especially because I think up until that point, Dawn would always have been willing to make amends with Clara Sue. Instead, Clara Sue always made it worse.
@@sheanamclaughlin8940Definitely Fern was pretty bad, especially since she was so ungrateful for the sacrifices that Dawn and Jimmy made for her, and she was horrible to Christie and Jefferson.
I thought about this and wondered if Cathy in FITA would put up with a sister like Fanny like Heaven did? Absolutely, not. She wasn't easily manipulated. Not even by her mother, Corrine. I didn't like Fanny at all.
Phillip, Clara Sue, Fanny renewed herself by saving Annie in the end. I think she always loved Logan, Heaven used Logan as a substitute for Troy. I think in the bday sequence, him and Fanny still had a ongoing fling
I agree that Fanny definitely redeemed herself in the end by how she treated Annie. And, yes, I would not be surprised if she and Logan still had an ongoing thing by the time of the bday sequence.
Vera is definitely awful to Audrina in so many ways. From the act that started it all to how she treated Audrina throughout their adolescence to what she was willing to do while Audrina was in coma. Not to mention with Arden. Yep, definitely one of (if not the) worst!
Hi!!! It's been over 20 years since I've read a VC Andrews novel. Which is the one involving the dead twin brother named Noble? And was that turned into a film at all?
The Gemini series is the one you’re thinking of. There’s 3 books in the series. Celeste, Black Cat, and Child Of Darkness. As of the present time, they’ve not made any movies of this particular series.
veras father labeledf her a no good slut at like age ten tho. like, he told audrina how boys can smell when a girl is okay with sex. i feel like she wanted a true sisterly relationship with audrina but she also had too much baggage with her daddy issues and problems with her family to be able to sort it all out.
This is why I love the original novels written by the actual Virginia Andrews so much. She created truly complicated and complex characters. And Vera is definitely one of those characters. I wish we could have seen how Vera would have been once all of the facts came to life. Instead, she fell down the stairs and was gone so quickly afterwards. I would like to know if once the truth was out, she would have tried to really be a good person. But that sort of damage at such a young age is hard to overcome. And, I mean the damage to Vera, too. Thank you for the comment!
I disagree with Chris, I think he is awful. I don't believe Cathy would have ended up with him since she had fought against him for so long. In the end it was his constant whining, manipulation, and the odd push from everyone around them that made her "choose" him. But you have now reminded me of some of these others they are all awful siblings lol.
Thank you for the comment! Chris DEFINITELY had his awful moments. I often wonder how I would feel about him now if I read the books for the first time as an adult. As a pre-teen reading the books, it is easy to just believe in what the author is weaving as a gothic and twisted love story. As an adult, I find lots of what he did questionable. In our "Cathy's True Love" episode, I definitely do NOT vote for him! I think he was great for standing by Cathy and helping to raise her kids, but I do not think he was her true love.
@@411popCulturevideos I watched that episode as well and I honestly think Cathy would have been better off alone or maybe found herself a nice man who also enjoyed the performing arts like she did. All of the men she had a relationship with was toxic and awful lol.
@@daydream1066That’s one thing I can say for Chris. Even though I done condone him having an incestuous relationship with Cathy, at least when she was living with him he took good care of her, versus the fathers of her two sons, both of whom were abusive.
Thank you for the comment! But, I am pretty sure that it was John Amos that killed the family pet. If we are talking about in If There Be Thorns. Everything that was happening was b/c of John Amos, who was setting up Bart to take the fall as this unbalanced little kid.
@@411popCulturevideos yes, you are right. Still, Bart should at least be in the running for the way he treated Cindy, and I always got the feeling that Jory's accident in Seeds of Yesterday was no accident. 🤔
@@Lady.Luthien Ahhh, we actually have an episode coming up about this very topic (Jory's accident in SOY). Or, at least a character from SOY that is very much related to Jory's accident. But, like ITBT, we do not think that Bart caused Jory's accident; however, we definitely do not believe it was an accident. I have to save all that, however, for the episode.
The worst was Vera for sisters the worst for brother’s is Chris he was a doctor he needed to move out so Cathy could live her life and not be so wrapped up in the FiTA crap which is part of the reason things kept going wrong awry because of their relationship.
Thank you for the comment! Love it. I feel like Chris gets let off the hook a lot by fans (and I am guilty of it, too, occasionally), but he needed to let Cathy go. I appreciate the way they took care of each other later in life, but for a long time and in a lot of ways, Chris hurt Cathy more than helped.
@@411popCulturevideosI let Chris somewhat off the hook just because it takes two to tango, and Cathy alllowed him to live with her and raise her children. So it was not as bad as the way Phillip treated Dawn and Christie. Cathy felt guilty about the incestuous nature of their relationship, more so than Chris did, but she did let him stay with her. I can see why she didn’t want him to be with Yolanda, though, since Yolanda was just trying to cause trouble.
Actually, Beau was the one time boyfriend of Giselle and then of Ruby, who was the biological father of Pearl. I don't truly recall Giselle and Paul having much interaction in the books. As for worst sibling, Vera.
Thanks for the comment! It's been awhile since we filmed this one, so I am not exactly sure to which part of the episode you are referring, but yes, that is correct, Beau was the one-time boyfriend of Giselle, then of Ruby, then Beau married Giselle but got Ruby pregnant. I agree with all of that, so I am unsure is something different was accidentally said in the episode? But Giselle and Paul did have quite a bit of interaction in All That Glitters.
@411popCulturevideos I very well could have been mistaken when you mentioned that Giselle got in the way of Ruby and Paul and said neither had feelings for the other. I haven't read the books in years, so I very well could have been mistaken, especially since I think Ruby was pretty dead set on the marriage being just in name. I do know she knew the truth about Paul and her being half-siblings early on in the first book. I might have to dust off my copies again. I did love your video, being I was a huge fan of these books as a pre-teen and beyond. I will never understand why my mother thought these books were appropriate due to their subject matter, especially when she read all books first.
@@dezraboudreau1871 Thank you so much! I can't tell you how much that means to me (and to Danielle!) that you are enjoying the videos. To be honest right back, there is always a chance I goofed up a name somewhere in there, too LOL. From the Cutler series, I kept thinking the grandfather (William "Bill" Cutler) was named Randloph Sr for some reason. Or, sometimes after I have edited, I notice that I goofed somewhere (usually we try to put some fun bloopers in). That is hilarious about your mom for the same reasons as me and Danielle. Danielle's aunt let her read them knowing full well what happened, as well as my own my mom. I am glad you are enjoying the episodes and we will have more coming in July with the Cutler series coming out!
Well, I don't want to spoil anything, but it was the same way as in the novels. In Seeds of Yesterday, it happens as a sort of way to mirror what happened their father in FITA.
u guys need to do a worst couples.. worst dad thing too. I personally want to put syrup on Cal and leave him outside near a bear family.. I am Northern shrug
Yes Philip was the just worst! He just refused to accept that Dawn was his bloody sister! So he forces himself on Dawn. After she died, he then starts his creepy shit with poor Kristy!!
Let me just point out, I don't know where some people get the idea that Chris forced Cathy to be with him at the end of Petals. Cathy even admitted that she didn't want Chris to move on (hence why she was angry that he slept with Yolanda), and don't forget that Cathy once demanded that Chris give up being a doctor and be with her forever. Also, it was Paul, near the end of Petals who suggested that Cathy be with Chris. Apart from the rape in the attic, the relationship between Cathy and Chris was not one-sided. Of course, it wasn't healthy, but when it comes right down to it, they wouldn't have survived without each other.
I was an reader for years. Then when VC Andrews passed away and her estate continued to write in her name... I could tell the difference immediately. Stopped mid book to look her up an confirm she was not the Author. The Flowers in the Attic series was one of her best works.
Thank you for the comment! First, I am in agreement about the Flowers in the Attic series being just amazing. Danielle (and quite a few fans on here) love the Heaven Casteel series even more. I love that series, too, but FITA will always be my favorite, in particular Petals on the Wind. And I love My Sweet Audrina. For me, however, I was able to enjoy the ghostwritten stuff, too (for a while anyway) because I actually read the Dollanganger series first, then I read the Cutler series. So, for me, the two styles blended together for a while. After the Cutlers, I read the Casteels, then the Landry series. By the time I got to the Landry series, I knew there was a ghostwriter, but I was able to still enjoy it. After that, I continued with the Logan and Hudson series...but they kind of lost me after that. I could not overlook the differences any longer.
@@411popCulturevideos Yep it was Heaven's series I had just began when I noticed the difference. I was able to tell where the story was going which I was never able to do before. (VC Andrews always shocked me) Which is what caused me to stop and see if she was still the real writer. I don't think I ever finished the first book. (Did Heaven and her husband die in a car crash?)
@@ancientsage1969 Yes, that is correct about Heaven and her husband, Logan. That occurred in "Gates of Paradise," which is told from Annie's (Heaven's daughter) POV. Although as far as the adaptations go from Lifetime, I did enjoy "Gates of Paradise" quite a bit. It is an easier story to adapt, as it takes place over a shorter period of time. I think the ghostwriter was definitely influenced by Stephen King's "Misery" for that novel.
For me, the worst sibling was Vera. She had her own trauma that made her the way she was, but even as a kid, she was horrible. I mean, she set up Audrina for what happened to her in the woods and later tried to kill her.
Vera is DEFINITELY one of the worst!
@@411popCulturevideos Yeah, I mean, a lot of the other siblings weren't the greatest, but god. Vera kind of takes the cake. She and both of Dawn's bio siblings, given Clara Sue causes the death of Dawn's baby and the entire thing with Phillip. I know some have mentioned Fanny, but at the very least, she tried to get better after Heaven's death and ended up being there for her daughter.
@@heatherduke5410 Clara Sue is definitely the other one at the top of my list. Phillip, too. I am looking forward to seeing them come to life in the upcoming adaptation! As far as Fanny, I do forgive her a lot in the end due to all that she does for Annie. Although she definitely received more love from Luke than Heaven, she did suffer quite a bit herself in her youth.
Fanny was a sicko of the highest order. She was insanely jealous of Heaven's Relationship with Logan. The Reverend Wise abused her sexually and got her pregnant with Darcy. Chris was just as disturbed in the sense he never wanted Cathy to be Happy with any other Man except him and in the long run he got his wish.
Well, Cathy, contrary to what she told Chris, didn't want him to be with anyone else either.
Yeah absolutely, my first thought was how awful fanny was to her family
@@Muirmaiden Also when Cathy was married to Julian for Six Years she either went on about him or Paul. That would have gotten on anyone's last nerves. Chris was very delusional, when Jory was born he wanted to be known as Jory's Father. They also gravitated more towards Jory than Bart because Jory forgave them, where Bart never did.
Vera hands down. Throwing people downstairs has to be the ultimate right. although Philip and Clara Sue weren't people I would invite over for tea.
Lol @ not inviting P and C over tea. But yes @ Vera. Throwing people down the stairs is awful, but the truly awful thing she did in setting up Audrina is unforgivable.
I can just imagine THAT tea party. I live in a small oil and gas town up North. Clara Sue would be saying, Are there truckers? I need a date! Philip would fall in love with my blond cat and be chasing it, crooning that Dawn's spirit was alive and well and in the cat... Nope, not making cuke sandwiches for that gong show!@@411popCulturevideos
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Chris in all of The Dollananger Books was a pain in the backside. Very delusional. He really believed that Jory & Bart were "His" Sons. Also in Petals On The Wind, he should have moved out and let Cathy, Paul & the Children have some privacy. Cathy was just as bad not explaining that Chris was Their Uncle since they believed that he was Daddy Paul's Younger Brother. He was also very selfish, he still insisted in staying in Foxworth Hall, believing that their Mother Corrine would rescue them, etc but of course she didn't. Even in If There Be Thorns, he still felt sorry for her when he visited her at The Hospital.
I would say that Philip was the worst. Besides just being a total creep to Dawn for like yesrs. He just refused to accept that Dawn was his bloody sister. First he forces himself on Dawn, then when she died he starts his bullshit with poor Kristy!
Thank you for the comment! Yes, Phillip is just awful. Awful awful awful.
I think clara sue and vera were the worst. Had you included the darkest hour I would have included Emily
Love Darkest Hour! Yeah, we decided to "sort of" focus mainly on just the siblings of the narrators of the main books in each series, in order to include the prequel narrators for categories such as "worst grandmother," etc. But, yes, Emily is definitely one of the worst siblings and great Aunts for sure. And we definitely agree also with Clara Sue and Vera. Each of them are terrible and incredibly dangerous.
Oh yeah, Emily was just pathetic!
Vera Adare , and Philip and Clara Sue Cutler were the worst. Fern Longchamp and Gisselle Dumas were quite bad also. Fanny Casteel was selfish and did a lot of bad things at first, but she redeemed herself later on by her care for Annie and Luke. The others never did anything to redeem themselves.
@@411popCulturevideosAlso what Olivia Logan did to her sister Belinda was pretty bad.
i have just read dollanganger and my sweet audrina so far, but I hated Vera over Chris. Vera was so evil even though she was driven to be that way. But Audrina so irritated me at times, she wasnt the sharpest tool in the shed, she gets the chance to escape the house and doesnt, i was like really??? I cant wait to read some of the other series..
I definitely have a different interpretation of Audrina, but your comment did make me laugh (in a good way). I think it was supposed to be the tragedy of Audrina, whether she was the first or second, her true nature was to give to her family. That is what Damien always wanted. He went the insane, awful way about going to get it, but Audrina's true nature was to be selfless. That being said, I always scream at the end of the novel: Noooo! Get out of there!!!
oh MAN, to me it was like her little sister took psychic control of Audrina and like, mind controlled her back. I wanted to read a fix-it fic where she gets out.
@@CheziahKattSylvia was close to Damien, she did not want to leave him. Damien could be cruel in some ways too, but he was not as evil as Vera. He really thought he was doing the right thing for Audrina by helping her to forget her trauma.
I say Clara Sue was the absolute worst.
Girl had no conscience, no redemption arc and ended up hurting lots of innocent people.
Philip was just as awful and was snobbish.
Vera was just as terrible...no conscience, no remorse and plain mean and relentlessly cruel.
Fanny was often bad and often mean, but in the last book, she shaped up, took an orphaned Annie under her wing and ended up remorseful for the poor way she had treated people.
Thank you for the comment! Could not agree more!
I’d say Phillip was the worse cause he was infatuated with Dawn and then he was so messed up in Midnight Whisper and was going after Christie. I’m actually writing a fan fiction with what happened more with Christie, Gavin, Jefferson and more into what happened to Phillip, the twins and their mother
Phillip is definitely awful. I re-read the first three books of the series last year, and then just last month I finally re-read Midnight Whispers and Darkest Hour. I forgot just how terrible he was to Christie. He was terrible to Dawn, too, of course, but it really got to me this last time reading what he did to Christie. And that is awesome about the fan fiction! When I re-read Midnight Whispers, I totally was left wanting to know more what happened to Christie, Gavin, and Jefferson! And, of course, to see how "Aunt Bet" would have had to deal with how wrongly she treated Gavin and Christie. I wanted a bit more comeuppance for her and Fern!
I think that Clara Sue is the worst sibling because she caused Dawn's miscarriage! Like the others do horrible stuff but this incident always stayed with me!! AWFUL!
That is the point of no return for Clara Sue. She is definitely one of the worst! Especially because I think up until that point, Dawn would always have been willing to make amends with Clara Sue. Instead, Clara Sue always made it worse.
@@411popCulturevideos Agreed. Clara Sue is unredeemable! Then Phillip is just a straigh tup creep!!!
I agree with this with Fern being a close second for being horrible
I think she and Vera are tied for worst, though I do feel sorry for Vera.
@@sheanamclaughlin8940Definitely Fern was pretty bad, especially since she was so ungrateful for the sacrifices that Dawn and Jimmy made for her, and she was horrible to Christie and Jefferson.
I thought about this and wondered if Cathy in FITA would put up with a sister like Fanny like Heaven did? Absolutely, not. She wasn't easily manipulated. Not even by her mother, Corrine. I didn't like Fanny at all.
Lol for sure Cathy would not! Yeah, Fanny was mostly awful. I did come to appreciate her in Gates of Paradise.
Cathy would have mopped the floor with her.
Phillip, Clara Sue, Fanny renewed herself by saving Annie in the end. I think she always loved Logan, Heaven used Logan as a substitute for Troy. I think in the bday sequence, him and Fanny still had a ongoing fling
I agree that Fanny definitely redeemed herself in the end by how she treated Annie. And, yes, I would not be surprised if she and Logan still had an ongoing thing by the time of the bday sequence.
I would say Vera is probably the worst. She was so awful to Audrina.
Vera is definitely awful to Audrina in so many ways. From the act that started it all to how she treated Audrina throughout their adolescence to what she was willing to do while Audrina was in coma. Not to mention with Arden. Yep, definitely one of (if not the) worst!
Clara Sue and Emily
Clara Sue, Philip , and fern were nuts. I feel like they take the cake. Ruby is evil and acts innocent
Ruby was not evil
Ruby twin sister was evil one
Hi!!!
It's been over 20 years since I've read a VC Andrews novel. Which is the one involving the dead twin brother named Noble? And was that turned into a film at all?
The Gemini series is the one you’re thinking of. There’s 3 books in the series. Celeste, Black Cat, and Child Of Darkness. As of the present time, they’ve not made any movies of this particular series.
veras father labeledf her a no good slut at like age ten tho. like, he told audrina how boys can smell when a girl is okay with sex. i feel like she wanted a true sisterly relationship with audrina but she also had too much baggage with her daddy issues and problems with her family to be able to sort it all out.
This is why I love the original novels written by the actual Virginia Andrews so much. She created truly complicated and complex characters. And Vera is definitely one of those characters. I wish we could have seen how Vera would have been once all of the facts came to life. Instead, she fell down the stairs and was gone so quickly afterwards. I would like to know if once the truth was out, she would have tried to really be a good person. But that sort of damage at such a young age is hard to overcome. And, I mean the damage to Vera, too. Thank you for the comment!
I disagree with Chris, I think he is awful. I don't believe Cathy would have ended up with him since she had fought against him for so long. In the end it was his constant whining, manipulation, and the odd push from everyone around them that made her "choose" him. But you have now reminded me of some of these others they are all awful siblings lol.
Thank you for the comment! Chris DEFINITELY had his awful moments. I often wonder how I would feel about him now if I read the books for the first time as an adult. As a pre-teen reading the books, it is easy to just believe in what the author is weaving as a gothic and twisted love story. As an adult, I find lots of what he did questionable. In our "Cathy's True Love" episode, I definitely do NOT vote for him! I think he was great for standing by Cathy and helping to raise her kids, but I do not think he was her true love.
@@411popCulturevideos I watched that episode as well and I honestly think Cathy would have been better off alone or maybe found herself a nice man who also enjoyed the performing arts like she did. All of the men she had a relationship with was toxic and awful lol.
@@daydream1066That’s one thing I can say for Chris. Even though I done condone him having an incestuous relationship with Cathy, at least when she was living with him he took good care of her, versus the fathers of her two sons, both of whom were abusive.
Bart was the worst sibling. He killed the family pet!
Thank you for the comment! But, I am pretty sure that it was John Amos that killed the family pet. If we are talking about in If There Be Thorns. Everything that was happening was b/c of John Amos, who was setting up Bart to take the fall as this unbalanced little kid.
@@411popCulturevideos yes, you are right. Still, Bart should at least be in the running for the way he treated Cindy, and I always got the feeling that Jory's accident in Seeds of Yesterday was no accident. 🤔
@@Lady.Luthien Ahhh, we actually have an episode coming up about this very topic (Jory's accident in SOY). Or, at least a character from SOY that is very much related to Jory's accident. But, like ITBT, we do not think that Bart caused Jory's accident; however, we definitely do not believe it was an accident. I have to save all that, however, for the episode.
Phillip was awful to
The worst was Vera for sisters the worst for brother’s is Chris he was a doctor he needed to move out so Cathy could live her life and not be so wrapped up in the FiTA crap which is part of the reason things kept going wrong awry because of their relationship.
Thank you for the comment! Love it. I feel like Chris gets let off the hook a lot by fans (and I am guilty of it, too, occasionally), but he needed to let Cathy go. I appreciate the way they took care of each other later in life, but for a long time and in a lot of ways, Chris hurt Cathy more than helped.
@@411popCulturevideos he did especially when it came to bart
@@411popCulturevideosI let Chris somewhat off the hook just because it takes two to tango, and Cathy alllowed him to live with her and raise her children. So it was not as bad as the way Phillip treated Dawn and Christie. Cathy felt guilty about the incestuous nature of their relationship, more so than Chris did, but she did let him stay with her. I can see why she didn’t want him to be with Yolanda, though, since Yolanda was just trying to cause trouble.
Clara sue the worst forcing a miscarriage oh no and the tie goes to Phillip
They were both so terrible! Thank you for the comment!
They were horrible, but truly had no parents between Laura Sue and Randall. They were spoiled brats
Vera was the absolute worst
She really was so terrible. To do such awful things at such a young age, and then to do even more awful things as an adult. Thank you for the comment!
Actually, Beau was the one time boyfriend of Giselle and then of Ruby, who was the biological father of Pearl. I don't truly recall Giselle and Paul having much interaction in the books.
As for worst sibling, Vera.
Thanks for the comment! It's been awhile since we filmed this one, so I am not exactly sure to which part of the episode you are referring, but yes, that is correct, Beau was the one-time boyfriend of Giselle, then of Ruby, then Beau married Giselle but got Ruby pregnant. I agree with all of that, so I am unsure is something different was accidentally said in the episode? But Giselle and Paul did have quite a bit of interaction in All That Glitters.
@411popCulturevideos I very well could have been mistaken when you mentioned that Giselle got in the way of Ruby and Paul and said neither had feelings for the other. I haven't read the books in years, so I very well could have been mistaken, especially since I think Ruby was pretty dead set on the marriage being just in name. I do know she knew the truth about Paul and her being half-siblings early on in the first book. I might have to dust off my copies again. I did love your video, being I was a huge fan of these books as a pre-teen and beyond. I will never understand why my mother thought these books were appropriate due to their subject matter, especially when she read all books first.
@@dezraboudreau1871 Thank you so much! I can't tell you how much that means to me (and to Danielle!) that you are enjoying the videos. To be honest right back, there is always a chance I goofed up a name somewhere in there, too LOL. From the Cutler series, I kept thinking the grandfather (William "Bill" Cutler) was named Randloph Sr for some reason. Or, sometimes after I have edited, I notice that I goofed somewhere (usually we try to put some fun bloopers in). That is hilarious about your mom for the same reasons as me and Danielle. Danielle's aunt let her read them knowing full well what happened, as well as my own my mom. I am glad you are enjoying the episodes and we will have more coming in July with the Cutler series coming out!
I'm late to the party but why'd they kill Christopher in the LMN movies??
Well, I don't want to spoil anything, but it was the same way as in the novels. In Seeds of Yesterday, it happens as a sort of way to mirror what happened their father in FITA.
u guys need to do a worst couples.. worst dad thing too. I personally want to put syrup on Cal and leave him outside near a bear family.. I am Northern shrug
I'm torn between Gisele being the worst or emily. emily was in the darkest hour. As for the worst brother most definitely Phillip.
Yes Philip was the just worst! He just refused to accept that Dawn was his bloody sister! So he forces himself on Dawn. After she died, he then starts his creepy shit with poor Kristy!!
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