Safer Switch Arming on FrSky Taranis

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  • Опубліковано 8 жов 2024
  • For all the advantages that switch arming has over stick arming, there is one big disadvantage: you can easily bump the switch and arm the copter unintentionally. This video shows you how to set up a "sticky" arming switch on your Taranis. A "sticky" arming switch means that you hold the momentary switch for a half second or so to arm, but disarm instanatly with a throw of the non-momentary switch. This means that you can't arm accidentally, but you can still instantly disarm if needed during a crash. This really is the best of both worlds, and should completely eliminate the need for anyone to ever stick arm. (That controversial statement is intentionally placed to stir up trouble. Please ignore it.)

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  • @suivzmoi
    @suivzmoi 2 роки тому +1

    it's been 5 years since stopping the hobby (family stuff) and i finally
    said goodbye to my gear only yesterday when i sold it off for real cheap
    to a really happy middle aged guy getting BACK IN to the hobby after
    20years. it made my happy knowing someone could make use of all that
    stuff that was sitting in storage for half a decade. i had to come back
    to your channel to figure out how to arm my drone because i remembered setting this exact arming flow 5 years ago and forgot it and needed to tell the new owner how to do it :). also made me really happy to see that you are still around helping the community learn something new everyday, and are more successful than ever. cheers and maybe i'll be back again in 20 years.

  • @paulgiusti6779
    @paulgiusti6779 6 років тому

    A tip for others following the video. I followed all the programming instructions and it seemed the quad arming was backwards and screwy on how it would arm and disarm. After looking at the video over a few times, I noticed J.B.'s arm mode was at the opposite end of the scale from mine. I connected the quad to betaflight, mode tab, reset the arm mode scale, and "voila" works perfectly. Proud of myself that i was able to figure that out, maybe I really am "learning something" from Mr. Bardwell? Thanks for the great videos and support to all us noobs out here!

  • @RCinginSC
    @RCinginSC 6 років тому +8

    Great vid. Learned so much.
    I took this idea and gave it my own twist .
    L1 (AND) SH , SF . 1.5 sec delay. Arm and momentary beeper sw.
    L2 (STKY) L1, disarm with SH Off
    Mixer CH5 set to L2
    Now when I flip the arm sw and hold the momentary beeper sw for 1.5 sec, I will get a beeper sound for 1.5 sec and then props arm. This serves 2 functions. If I accidently have it armed and press on beeper, I get a warning before it arms, secondly, if I am intentionally arming the quad, it let's anyone around know that I am arming the quad . This was so much fun to play around with and to get working. Thanks for all the work you do.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  6 років тому +2

      Very nice idea. I like that a lot.

    • @gattopazzo80
      @gattopazzo80 5 років тому +1

      @@JoshuaBardwell what do you think about using a rotary knob > 90% condition instead of the throttle > -99 one? That would feel like a "turn on/off the key" feedback, even more positive and less prone to false activations.
      Add the 1.5 sec beeper on top of that, looks like a very safe procedure.

  • @virgilm1491
    @virgilm1491 7 років тому +3

    This is pretty sweet because you can assign your "Arm" switch to an "Engine Armed" sound effect, and "Engine Start" to L4, which will only sound when the motors should be starting. I think its helpful when you're working with goggles on to have both the tactile feel of the switch positions and the audio in confirming what you're doing.

  • @userman444
    @userman444 2 роки тому +1

    its DEC 2021. almost 2022, EdgeTX. your vid is still very accurate and useful ! Thanks JB !!!

  • @nappingpup105
    @nappingpup105 2 роки тому +1

    Joshua, thanks for the video. I was following you way back when you posted this video and I programmed the sticky arming function, at that time. Nice work on your part and posting a video was so helpful. I put the copter away for a few years and pulled it out just recently. It would NOT arm. I panicked. Well, I forgot about the sticky arming feature, which was enabled or available on my Taranis. It will arm now.

  • @joriscoolen2041
    @joriscoolen2041 5 років тому

    I have once done a accidental arm like u and ever since I have always been very paranoid. This video is a great way of fixing the problem!

  • @thomaslazette8183
    @thomaslazette8183 8 років тому

    Hey Joshua great tip and video. Also a tip for your viewers. I don't fly with an OSD, I know its a personal choice, so I have a timer set up with voice announcements. I set the timer to count down on L4, or Logical switch 4, with your setup and included a special function to reset timer with the SH forward. This way it resets when I begin to fly and also only begins to count down when L4 is active and armed. You can than also expand it with another special function with L4 to play the track of engines armed when L4 becomes active.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      Good tips. The Taranis is a real Swiss-army knife!

  • @beeradfpv
    @beeradfpv 8 років тому

    Been there done that accidentally (arm that is). Disarmed after i landed after a race, the switch got bumped after i picked up the quad and LUCKILY i was carrying it by the battery which was on the bottom. Scary moment! When you set it up people, take the props off! Thanks for the vid!

  • @brettconv83
    @brettconv83 7 років тому

    I'm newer to fpv and multi rotor but what you suggested is exactly what I started doing on my own. I flip the SF switch the arm/disarm and when I have battery power to the quad and radio on I will disarm with the switch then I raise my throttle as a redundancy. I figured it out by dumb luck when I couldn't get my quad to arm and then noticed after a few minutes my throttle was up just a hair. So I started using the throttle as a second safety.

  • @53roger
    @53roger 6 років тому

    great info Josh. about 3 months ago planned to set my radio up this way...I didn't. Today I have a nasty cut on my right hand which cut through my fingernail down close to the bone. (I bumped the arming switch while I was positioning the quad for takeoff) Thankfully for me the quad was set in Horz mode, throttle down, and motors started spinning in idle position. Could have been much worse had i also bumped the throttle up while trying to get away from the spinning props. Needless to say a lesson learned. I am now taking a few 'safety steps' to protect myself. 1. keep the transmitter off until the quad is on the ground ready to go. 2. when plugging in the battery keep all fingers and other body parts away from the props. Roger

  • @pjviegas
    @pjviegas 6 років тому

    Really nice way to Arm.
    I have another way off failsafe arming, I have two switch's : one is a "master kill", the other is the Arm.
    It works in the way that any off them can disarm if flipped, but the Arming will only happen when the "Master Kill Switch" is on.
    This will avoid the "accidental radio bump", as long as any off the switches are set low.
    And yes, this came up after I had a scaring experience when retriving a drone from a low tree, I sent the drone to the ground, then when I jumped from the tree, the radio switch bumped on me and the drone armed, lucky I was fast enought to hit disarm.
    Now I have one for you guys, yesterday when I was to land, I hit disarm (as always) at about 30cm from the ground, right after the drone when into FULL power (disarmed !!!), I lost ALL command with the drone, had to quickly turn the radio off, to let failsafe (1sec) bring it to ground (100mt away after a perfect loop), I had my goggles on but this is what by buddy descrived to me (he was on standby to fly and watching me land). So, what happended ????
    (BF3.2, Turnigy 9XR with ER9x, Frsky XJT Tx, Frsky XM+ Rx)

  • @turnturtlemedia
    @turnturtlemedia 3 роки тому

    Mr B. Awesome as always. I really have learnt SOOOOO much from you this month !

  • @steinne
    @steinne 6 років тому

    Thank you for this. I have added to my horus x10, as well as tied it to a widget- shows red/white when L04 is enabled. Really like the safety this adds...... cheers, neil

  • @rook-tv
    @rook-tv 8 років тому

    This is genius. I am always paranoid I am going to bump my switch, and with my luck I'd probably hit the throttle right after and then disaster. Great video, didn't even know this could be done.

  • @Airjacker
    @Airjacker 8 років тому

    Genius Joshua! Tweaked this to work with my switch assignments and just went out to test. I never felt safe trying to unplug the quad battery with the radio swinging about on a neck strap.

  • @antstoes
    @antstoes 6 років тому

    Took me all day to get it working correctly But It is working and I love it. Thanks for your knowledge!!!

  • @mr_mr
    @mr_mr 5 років тому +1

    The logic switches are pretty cool. I can imagine some fun uses. Love this extra safety step.

  • @lbermude
    @lbermude 8 років тому +2

    Every time i get more and more amazed by the taranis. Best buy ever!

  • @onicknacko
    @onicknacko 7 років тому

    Major like from a beginner! I just finished building my first drone and were looking for tips how to setup the arming and everything. This was so help- and useful! Click... subscribed! Cheers man!

  • @1unaffiliated1
    @1unaffiliated1 6 років тому

    Awesome, I have been racking my brain trying to figure this out...Thank God you beat me to it...It works like a champ...I got a three switches repeating the function, SWEET!!!

  • @NathanLanchbury
    @NathanLanchbury 4 роки тому

    I run "Arm" as" SA-" and found a better change is the have"L4 Stcky L3 !SA-" or in Joshua's example "L4 Stcky L3 !SF↑". This means the switch can go to any position other than armed to disarm. I've always used the middle of the switch as I figured it's harder to knock into that place, and is a great addition to this guide. If doing the same you want the mixer CH5's second line as "+= 0 MAX". Hope that's a helps others too.

  • @steveminard6441
    @steveminard6441 7 років тому

    I have one issue with this. I have once, not often, disarmed accidentally in flight. It should be possible to extend this scheme a little to require the arm switch to be off for say 2 seconds before sticky arm is needed. This would allow emergency rearm, but maintain all of the other great features. And by the way, Thank-you. Fantastic idea, great instructions.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому

      Personally, when I want to disarm, I want to disarm RIGHT FREAKING NOW. I would never put a "safety" on disarm.
      ua-cam.com/video/bTalnzcO0xk/v-deo.html

    • @steveminard6441
      @steveminard6441 7 років тому

      Misunderstanding here. I didn't mean "safety on disarm", I meant for rearm. So, instant disarm. For two seconds instant rearm. After that sticky rearm. I totally agree on "RIGHT FREAKING NOW" for disarm.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому

      Ohhhhhh. That's clever.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому

      That's just clever enough that I might go for it. I have actually had it happen that I disarmed early in a crash and then spent the next second and a half wishing I hadn't while the copter tumbles through the air.

  • @S700KYFPV
    @S700KYFPV 8 років тому

    That's a really great tip Joshua. On Mine SC and SD have to be in the middle to arm. SC up SD down is beeper and SC down SD middle is Blackbox on/off.

  • @derekvair9341
    @derekvair9341 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this. You explained things well enough here that I was able to apply this to my electric aircraft.

  • @youzrnaim
    @youzrnaim 4 роки тому

    Thanks, Josh. I was able to follow this for my Jumper T16 ProHall v2.

  • @DonaldReynoldsII
    @DonaldReynoldsII 2 роки тому

    Wanted to do this 4 years ago just sat down thank u JB

  • @TMTWO22
    @TMTWO22 5 років тому

    Awesome video! Even with the newer BetaFlight - Pre Arm functionality, this still helped me set up the logical switching for the rest of my programming. Thanks, JB!

  • @RedWolf3773
    @RedWolf3773 8 років тому

    Great tutorial as always Josh! From one Engineer to another, thanks for moving this hobby forward! Keep up the awesome work. Worked like a charm for both Kiss and Betaflight!

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому +1

      Only difference with KISS is that you have to configure the Aux channel to go ... I think it is low for armed. I don't think KISS has a generic "modes" tab like betaflight/cleanflight does.

  • @cmavr8
    @cmavr8 8 років тому +1

    Excellent - excellent - excellent!
    I'd change the function in the mixer entries to "replace" or whatever it is instead of "add". But that's just OCD, it doesn't really matter.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      +Chris Mavrakis you're technically right, but because the switches are mutually exclusive it doesn't matter.

  • @ExpressiveImagery
    @ExpressiveImagery 8 років тому

    Excellent tip, i'm implementing right now. I raised a clear and precise issue on Betaflight GitHub regarding the CleanFlight phenomenon you mentioned, however it got closed without being implemented.

  • @rayikaikin
    @rayikaikin 7 років тому

    ive been arming my quad with the throttle right arm left dissarm for a long time because the first time i set it to the switch to arm i bumped it in flight and watched helplessly in horror as my fairly new quad plummeted to the ground.. you cant accidently have the throttle to 0 long enough and to the left to do that lol.
    this method looks awesome i will have to try it out. thanks joshua!

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому

      +rayikaikin this method still instantly disarms. Just don't bump that switch.

    • @Lasseu
      @Lasseu 7 років тому

      how do i set this up on a X7? My screen isnt big as yours to see how the rest is set up, any howto manual on internet?

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому +1

      I haven't used an X7 to be able to say.

  • @matthewghyatt
    @matthewghyatt 8 років тому

    I love this method, been using it for a while now, very intuitive

  • @mathieusan
    @mathieusan 3 роки тому +1

    you forgot that right after you arm it, you need to make sure it can also disarm if you put the SF switch to disarm. In order to do that, add the SF(up) on the L04 line second area on the right (funny enough, L04 should activate only when you have the sticky scenario, AND SF(up) is actually armed; this way it will deactivate right away when you disarm SF, no matter what the sticky scenario is at). I added a delay of 0.1 to the "AND SF(up)" on the right to avoid the little glitch otherwise.

  • @johnsheehy6172
    @johnsheehy6172 5 років тому

    I set it up blindly following your instructions and when I armed, nothing happened but when I disarmed the motor ran and wouldn't stop. I then had to try to understand by playing over and over. I finally realised that you had reversed the instructions in the mixer.
    It should read, when L4 is true throttle is 100. When L4 is not true throttle is -100.
    Thank you for the error, it forced me to persevere until I understood.
    I find it hard to believe I'm right and you're wrong and I hope you'll correct me if I've missed something but it now works and it didn't before.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  5 років тому

      The way I show in the video is exactly how mine is set up and works. My best guess is your setup is different from mine somehow. But if it works, it works!

    • @johnsheehy6172
      @johnsheehy6172 5 років тому

      @@JoshuaBardwell I knew it was very unlikely that I'd find an error in one of your how to videos. So now I've gone back to confused, but as you say, if it works, it works.
      Thanks for a great safety feature.

  • @j.finesseflights1403
    @j.finesseflights1403 7 років тому +24

    I love and hate the Taranis, love everything it can do, hate that I'm to stupid to understand it!!

    • @jimmcminnsr6309
      @jimmcminnsr6309 5 років тому +1

      Me too, brother.

    • @TheJankyTank
      @TheJankyTank 5 років тому +1

      @@jimmcminnsr6309 Me too, brothers

    • @dabberxfpv1613
      @dabberxfpv1613 5 років тому

      Ooo me too

    • @Retset
      @Retset 5 років тому

      Just got one as Spektrum range no good with quads. I just have to follow exactly what JBs vids tell me to do. I barely understand it either! I have twice picked up the quad and caught the arm switch whilst setting it down somewhere. Once made me jump and once made it shoot off in the boot of my car. Just so dangerous. Well, now it won't happen again!

    • @dinoslmn
      @dinoslmn 5 років тому

      It is not TARANIS boys, is yours genome....you have opportunity to sue yours Ma & Pa and ask for compensations

  • @lookin4ward1
    @lookin4ward1 4 роки тому

    Just started to implement this in conjunction with my flight mode switches, had a couple of "bumped throttles" last few months, great video Josh, I might modify it a little so the momentary switch can still be used to throttle cut on glow models, bit of thinking to do :)

  • @bigpops74
    @bigpops74 8 років тому

    Been doing something similar for months. 2x switches have to be in a specific positions to arm. They have to be in the same position as when I fly helicopters. So left shoulder switch in the middle, right shoulder all the way back. Any other combination is disarmed.
    Not as fancy, but just uses a simple AND in the Taranis.
    I haven't had an accidental arm yet (touch wood).

  • @drk2891
    @drk2891 8 років тому +1

    A+ for your work on puppy death prevention.

  • @stephenwilley
    @stephenwilley 8 років тому

    My buddy accidentally armed just two days ago. Got lucky since he was holding the battery at the time. I just sent this to him and will be implementing it too. With all my inflight adjustments and battery warnings these'll be Logical Switches 23-26 :-D

  • @jasonwaits88
    @jasonwaits88 5 років тому

    KISS still has the throttle "ticking time bomb". I just found this vid and tried it on my latest firmware KISSFCV2F7-1.3-RC36i. Never knew it would do that. If it ever wouldn't arm because of bumped throttle, I would naturally disarm, lower throttle, and rearm, not ever noticing if it would throttle only rearm. It creeped me tha hell out when I just tried it. Yikes! Just an FYI. Thanks for your great vids.

  • @QuadView
    @QuadView 8 років тому

    I totally armed my quad just like you did by accident. I hate that switch on the back. I was holding the Taranis in my arm and quad in my hand and was walking and bumped the switch. Scared me. I was okay. I changed it to a switch in front. Maybe I should use a knob!!?? Thanks for the insight. Love it.

  • @mhuckabee1
    @mhuckabee1 8 років тому

    Joshua, I love your videos! I've learned so much from them. But in this one you did now show how you added a second line to the mixer channel for when L4 is not fired. I'm sure people can figure it out but it would be nice to have it in the video for beginners like me.

  • @Brendjord
    @Brendjord 5 років тому

    great video! just got my Taranis X9Dplus SE and drones (tinyhawk and TBS oblivion). going to use this setup before i even try to get my drones in the air :)

  • @pabz06
    @pabz06 8 років тому

    This was awesome!! Thought about doing something like this even before getting my Taranis. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @TbstUSA
    @TbstUSA 3 роки тому

    Hi, Something unusual happened, my quad armed itself under strange circumstances. I use the sticky switch arming and like it very much. Story: I may not be exact here because it was an unexpected surprise. I was bench testing to uncover a faulty esc and because I'm using Ghost, all of my receivers are #1. After running the motors (7 inch props on for load) I realized I was testing under the wrong model so once I selected the correct model, it armed and I can't be sure whether it was running higher than Idle because I was panicking to get it disarmed but I don't think I would have panicked if it was just idling. Something to watch for. I did not try to reproduce it.

  • @BillSheley
    @BillSheley 8 років тому

    I'm wondering if using one of those pots to arm is a decent solution. seems unlikely you could bump a nob and arm the copter. The sticky switch is very cool though. Thanks for the tutorial!

  • @coleisman
    @coleisman 8 років тому

    This is brilliant!! I've been wanting to set something like this up on my 9xr for a while...

  • @paulstone9755
    @paulstone9755 5 років тому

    I have a QX7S and I had some problems getting this to quite work. I'm using opentx 2.3.1. It took me several hours to get it to work correctly. Maybe this will help someone else. The problem I was having is the the Sticky would not disengage when I disarmed. It would only disarm when I rearmed the quad. And then it would arm immediately the next time. The Sticky is the problem. There are 2 things u need to do.. In the logical switch code. You need to add below what Joshua has in the "AND switch" your disarm switch position in the sticky code. This will force the sticky to go false and disarm the quad. Also you will need to add a delay I used 0.5 or else the motors with turn for a brief second when you flip the arm switch which is not what u want. I also removed the "and" code in the "EDGE" part since beta-flight will not arm if the throttle is not in the 0 position. Also I use a trim switch for the EDGE instead of the beeper switch since i didn't want to hear the beeper ever time i wanted to arm the quad. I by default disable all trims on the radio. Hope the help someone else.

  • @144steveg
    @144steveg 6 років тому +1

    I have followed this perfectly. I saw on the Logical Switch screen, it worked on one occasion I mean I saw what your screen did when armed. ! It will not work consistently. I just don't know where to go next. Your screens are easy to replicate. Could you offer suggestions.

  • @timandelke
    @timandelke 7 років тому

    Awesome fix for accidental arming! Thanks

  • @JawaPaul
    @JawaPaul 6 років тому

    Hi Joshua, I know this is an old video, but I'm unable to get this arming method working on my Taranis QX7.... I've setup the Logical Switch as described, and the Mixer exactly as shown....but am stuck with how to setup the input for the Arming I think is the cause of it not working. Yes, I'm a noob but really appreciate your knowledge and video's. Keep up the great work ;)

  • @hokowi
    @hokowi 3 роки тому

    Pls take note that JB SF(up) switch is Armed so you have to reverse some of the settings if your Armed is SF(down). I missed that and took me awhile to realize that.

  • @philsson
    @philsson 8 років тому

    Real good help there! Will definitely do this setting on all my profiles!
    One I'm thinking would need some special treatment is the double arm for raceflight. Have a fix for that yet? :)

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 6 років тому

    Awesome! I'm going to use it! 😃
    Thanks a lot, JB!

  • @schmydstify
    @schmydstify 5 років тому

    1:03 exact the same thing happened to me last week and I came by an unpleasant thumb injury. Now I configured the Frsky X7 in that way, that I have to turn the potentiometer and a switch to arm the copter. Hopefully this arming accident won't repeat...

  • @Tavdog
    @Tavdog 6 років тому

    Love this tip. Really smart and safe.

  • @leffler2
    @leffler2 4 роки тому

    I THINK THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION! I DO!
    I am using the Taranis momentary switch for an assigned telemetry report. Will this also trigger the arming switch? I only tap the momentary switch while flying to get the readout...not holding it for any length of time...if that makes any difference...8)
    THANK YOU JOSHUA!

  • @HerbertKojetin
    @HerbertKojetin 7 років тому

    Thanks for the video, I use a modified version for my electric fixed wings.

  • @Sully365
    @Sully365 7 років тому +4

    my experience the other day:
    Accidentally armed while carrying it back from a crash...
    rotor hit my nipple. i'm not joking. hilarity ensued as i tried to turn it off without letting go bc it was flailing trying to correct itself against my movements...
    So yea...dual control arming. good thing. no damage done, thankfully

  • @peterfreund8205
    @peterfreund8205 7 років тому

    I put my arm switch on of the KNOBS on the Taranis. So much safer. No issue of ever bumping it. Just have to turn knob up all the way to arm it.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому +2

      How do you disarm immediately in the event of an unsafe condition?

    • @peterfreund8205
      @peterfreund8205 7 років тому

      I've never had such a condition yet. As long as failsafe is set to cut motors, I haven't had to kill the motors except for one condition: when airmode is on and I'm landing and I want to stop props from spinning. I have the right side rocker switch set up to switch between modes where airmode is ON and OFF while still in acro mode. That way, as soon as I bring quad in for landing, I flip that rocker switch to stop props from spinning. Also, mine is set up to NOT spin props when armed. So, whenever throttle is at zero, the props aren't spinning. Am I missing something? Is there another situation I don't see where I would need to cut motors immediately?

  • @raymondlawson1751
    @raymondlawson1751 8 років тому

    Just being using Raceflight the last few days and have arming set to a switch which in order to arm you have to on/off on/off to arm would be cool if that feature was on bf.

  • @fpvdarktim
    @fpvdarktim 7 років тому

    Hi Joshua, thanks a lot for your work. May I propose an extension to that? Wasting an AUX channel for the beeper can be prevented by modifying your setup. I added a 5th logical switch with "AND SF-down SH-down". then I changed the mixer setting to 70/-70 and added a line "100 L5" This way I can send the beep instruction by holding SH in disarmed mode.

  • @chrishallock8596
    @chrishallock8596 7 років тому

    Hey Josh! Great vid! I put it all in my radio and it works great. Only thing is I want to tie my failsafe into it and I'm running into some problems. I set it up so L4 won't enable if the failsafe is enabled, and that works. But if my quad is armed and I hit failsafe, it disarms, but as soon as I come out of failsafe it's armed again. (At least to the radio, not the quad!) how do I get it so if I hit failsafe, when I come out of it I still have to re-arm?

  • @alder76
    @alder76 8 років тому

    Here's my version for Turnigy 9XR PRO
    LOGICAL SWITCHES
    L1 v

  • @EliCamacho
    @EliCamacho 6 років тому

    So I did everything in the video perfectly. Problem is you left out what to do next to set your arm mode in Betaflight. Do you set it up normally like if you had a one click switch arm or is there a special setup for the sticky switch arm in Betaflight? Because my drone isn't arming.
    EDIT: To setup the arming mode in Betaflight first make sure your momentary switch isn't set for anything else, if so use another switch for that function. Once you've made sure your momentary switch is cleared and not being used, Go to the arm mode, set it to "Auto" and perform your sticky switch arming sequence. Your Arm mode will pick it up (mine picked it up as AUX 1) and now from there move your range tabs to the appropriate position and save.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  6 років тому

      You set it up based on the Aux channel like normal.

  • @rasc-travel
    @rasc-travel 8 років тому

    Great stuff. Now I am thinking on how to set this up on my Futaba T14sG...

  • @ambermeows150
    @ambermeows150 8 років тому +1

    Quality vid like always josh! Is this strictly for clean flight? Will this work for KISS fc as well?

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому +2

      It should work for KISS. At the end of the day, all the logic is in the Taranis. The net effect is that an Aux channel goes from one position to another.

  • @SteveGarelick
    @SteveGarelick 6 років тому

    Great video even a newbie could follow (-; I do have a simple question about why you chose for the up position on switch SF to be armed and the down position on SF to be un-armed? Is there some ergonomic reason about how you hold your transmitter that makes it better this way?

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  6 років тому

      I feel better disarming swiping the switch towards me rather than pushing it away.

  • @mrmeowsir2355
    @mrmeowsir2355 6 років тому

    Thank you!!! I just set this up, it works great.

  • @exponentmantissa5598
    @exponentmantissa5598 6 років тому

    That was a really good video. I am just in the process of building my first drone. I learned to fly on cheap smashable drones. Now building FPV for the first time. I am having a contest with my bud to see who gets up and running first. I have everything running except for telemetry and arming to I am well along. I understood this video but have a question. I am a little unclear how to configure cleanflight to support the arming. I know it will have to detect L4 and NOT L4 but I am unsure how to set this up.

  • @Finnbane
    @Finnbane 7 років тому +1

    Thx man! Worked perfectly on the Frsky qx7! ^^

    • @jamesrobinson2478
      @jamesrobinson2478 4 роки тому

      what did u change in the mixer screen to get the !L4 100 and L4 -100

  • @themustangone6449
    @themustangone6449 8 років тому

    unrelated topic, did I read somewhere that now we could assign a cli variable to a mode and aux channel in betaflight...im prob confusing my quads with my helis and multiwii boards with mikado vcontrol...but man would be nice, can we petition for it!

  • @Safety48
    @Safety48 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for this nice video! I'm setting up a standard 4-channel model plane with your arming system so that I can copy this for all future models. I am a new Taranis user. Just as you demonstrated, I've got the Logical Switches working perfectly! I'm having trouble linking it to my Mixer values, same as yours. They don't seem to have any effect. From your narration...How do I know that Ch5 or Aux1 are my arming channels? (Fairly new radio, same as yours. Taranis X9+, OpenTx) Thanks in advance! Garland

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому

      +Safety48 the mixer lines need to be set up with a source of the input lines. Or you can just take the stick outputs as a source to the mixer directly. For a simple build with no expo or custom curves the latter is fine.

  • @irontube
    @irontube 8 років тому +1

    Man that's exactly what I was thinking those days (how to do something like)! Always one step ahead! ;) One more.. what about adding a WAV with a engine ignition sound?

    • @doondedulin44
      @doondedulin44 8 років тому

      Awesome idea Gualtiero! Consider your idea stolen :)

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      I have seen someone on the Internet who did that, so you're not alone there.

  • @KwadSkwad
    @KwadSkwad 8 років тому

    Hah, exactly what I was looking to do. your channel is becoming invaluable. The stick down arming is annoying :P

  • @txfieros
    @txfieros 8 років тому

    Very handy. I've always been afraid of an accidental arm as well. I may try this.
    I am still looking for a way to get a switch to hold my throttle at 1500 until I switch it off for my AP Y6 so that the altitude will hold even if when Yawing I go above or below center. I haven't done a deep search yet on how to do this.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому +1

      Managing the throttle while yawing is just a matter of practice. Walk and chew gum, you know?

    • @txfieros
      @txfieros 8 років тому

      +Joshua Bardwell yep. Well it's not for me it's for whenever I may want to hand over the controls for a minute or two to someone not that experienced. It is just one less thing to worry about. At higher altitudes I do rely on my OSD to see if I'm descending too much. The higher you are the less you can tell obviously.

  • @craigoakley9078
    @craigoakley9078 7 років тому

    I like this method, I do something similar.
    I fly with a sprung throttle (this way I can feel mid-throttle - In one mode I use S2 to adjust throttle max so I can fly overpowered quads comfortably). I use a dual stick arming. SA is a safety (and instant disarm), SF is hold (and instant disarm), SH is arm (and disarm if hold still on). This way knocking any edge switch will also prevent arming if safety is on. I do however force the throttle channel to -100 while SF hold is engaged.
    Question: Below min_check, is yaw still disabled if switch arming is in use (ie. while in throttle deadband)?

  • @maverick-san9289
    @maverick-san9289 8 років тому

    Joshua, I got it. It wasn't set to MAX at my side. Here it was set to an input signal. Have no idea what this MAX means. Sorry for my intrusion!

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      No worries. MAX means that it sets the channel to a fixed value. Or, more accurately, it sets the mixer line to a fixed value. So MAX with a weight of 100 sets the channel to full up, and weight of -100 sets the channel to full down, and so forth.

  • @hansleatherby1032
    @hansleatherby1032 7 років тому

    Hi Joshua
    I'm using Ersky9x
    I have set it to arm my motor with a rotary switch (P3) plus a sticky on the throttle stick
    This way its impossible to knock it on by accident
    regards
    Hans

  • @Cente1781
    @Cente1781 7 років тому

    I got the safer switch arming to work but need a quick emergency disarm. You explained it when someone else asked in another question...but I don't understand. Was hoping you can clear it up? Thank you for the reply and all you do.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому

      Safer switch arming doesn't change disarm at all. Disarming is still a one-step process. Just flick the switch back agai.

    • @Cente1781
      @Cente1781 7 років тому

      Guess something is going on with my Kiss setup...cause flipping the switch back isn't disarming. Thanks again!

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому

      +Angel Pagan check the aux channel. Does it move? The logic is probably wrong.

  • @accord727
    @accord727 8 років тому

    I use a similar set up on a devo7. I use a switch for arming and set my throttle hold as well to 0 throttle. I need to set both switches to arm and to throttle up my props.

  • @DutchRC
    @DutchRC 8 років тому +2

    How about putting the arming on one of the turn-knobs? I mean.. You'd be hard pressed to accidentally turn those? Seems pretty safe to me?

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому +2

      Seems a little clumsy, but the Taranis could do it for sure. Just make sure you can quickly disarm!

    • @DutchRC
      @DutchRC 8 років тому

      I agree on the clumsy part indeed.. Safe it is though :)

    • @DeeHawkDK
      @DeeHawkDK 6 років тому +2

      I did just that and coupled it with a physical switch. A little simpler, and I don't find it clumsy at all. For anyone who wants to try this, the pot (knob) must first be set in a logical switch. I made one using a>x SB1 90, which activates the switch when the pot is in the top 5% of its value spektrum. Then you make a second logical switch type AND with the first logical switch (LS1 in my case) and your regular arm switch down. Then set that new logical switch as an AUX channel in the mixer and use that as your Arming channel. Both knob and switch must be engaged to arm, and if either is disangeged, it disarms.

  • @BuSheeZy
    @BuSheeZy 3 роки тому

    thanks. this may save some of my fingers.

  • @ChristopherNelson2k
    @ChristopherNelson2k 7 років тому +1

    Great tutorial. Took me a bit to recreate this in OpenTX and apply it appropriately to my arming preferences (SD down to arm), but working great and tested on my 3 current quads. Thanks @fpvknowitall.

  • @JimDieckow
    @JimDieckow 8 років тому

    I like the manner of teaching that someone who till now just surfed the net can follow your logic and be able to amp up this great radio. I do have a problem in that I had already programmed functions for the first five logic switches and just plugged in 6, 7,8, and 9 where you had 1, 2, 3, 4. I made sure that the channel monitor graph tracked correctly and that the direction arrow on the outputs page changed when SH was held up. I cant see any differences from your program to mine other than I started father down the logic page but it has no effect on the throttle at all and I can still run the motor anytime I advance the stick. Does your setup only work in L1 thru L4 or can it be transposed farther down

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      No, it doesn't matter which specific switches you use, as long as the logic is correct. Congrats on getting it all set up. Happy flying!

    • @JimDieckow
      @JimDieckow 8 років тому

      Any guess why it did not connect to the channel one? I do like the way it's set up and would like to use it.
      I did connect to ch5 like on ur vid. I just wonder if it should have been inserted to chk instead

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      I used Ch5 because I use Aux1 to arm, for switch arming.

    • @JimDieckow
      @JimDieckow 8 років тому

      I have looked at this again and all my stuff is exactly as the video shows but I am still not able to get it to work. When I plug in the lipo to the esc the rcvr goes thru all the beeps and will also in a couple of seconds go into motor arm as long as the throttle stick is down. I guess what I dont understand (coming from JR/Spektrum radios) is how do In link ch5 to ch1. Do I move, copy, or insert ch5.
      Sorry if this seems tedious but I am determined to beat the radio one way or another. LOL

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      Jim Dieckow I'm really sorry, but I'm not following what you're asking. I don't know what you mean by "link ch5 to ch1".

  • @babakzekibi315
    @babakzekibi315 8 років тому

    Brilliant idea but actually I never need such an arming sequence but very good way to do it
    like

  • @kula200477
    @kula200477 7 років тому

    Nice !!!! Thanks for this video. I had cutted finger in the past, so better to avoid this in the future ;)

  • @joestubbs3138
    @joestubbs3138 6 років тому

    Your ''Safer Arming Switch '' procedure is undoubtedly the best way to prevent a '' blood event'' - but it does take a measure of understanding to implement it - So is it possible to load the proceedure onto a memory card say, then uploaded to a model that requires it - OR can it be loaded into the Taranis's memory to be plucked out when needed...joe

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  6 років тому

      +Joe Stubbs it's possible to save and load an entire model, but not a part of a model like this. I just use the same model for all my quads though. Look up my video "Taranis model match".

    • @joestubbs3138
      @joestubbs3138 6 років тому

      I'm looking at the vid at the moment with a veiw to use the method.
      Chewing over the Switch Arming procedure brought me into contact with a ''Locking Lever Toggle Switch'' used by Jeti - 2pos safety sw P/No JMS-DS-TSL2S - this could replace the SF 2pos sw - such a switch could hel to prevent a ''bump'' operation...joe

  • @Dobemandan
    @Dobemandan 8 років тому

    This works great but I was wondering if you could add disarming once armed with the momentary switch as well. Just in case of emergency's having the second switch to disarm fast would be awesome. Thanks

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      +Dobemandan that would be doable. Have one logical switch that becomes true when SF OR the momentary. Then make the logical switch the disarm condition.

  • @emapin
    @emapin 7 років тому

    Awesome.. loved it.. thanks Joshua

  • @TheRCAddict
    @TheRCAddict 8 років тому

    Awesome tip! I'll probably add it in soon :)

  • @Wicket_78
    @Wicket_78 8 років тому

    would you mind sharing (and maybe this is a whole other video) what your other switches do? I always like to see how others do things in case there is a more efficient or logical way of setting things up.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  8 років тому

      The only other switch I have set up for quadcopters is a three-position with buzzer and blackbox on two positions.

    • @Wicket_78
      @Wicket_78 8 років тому

      cool, I have disarm/arm/blackbox-arm on a 3 position switch and beeper on the 2 position switch. I used to have arm on the 2 position like you though and have been thinking of going back to that cause maybe it's better to just worry about on/off for arming and make any extras on a different switch. funny how we have all these switches and really use a few of them. :)

  • @marshallcampbell5481
    @marshallcampbell5481 7 років тому

    I like the added safety here. Is there a way to use this setup, but also add another line to make L4 not true with a quick flip of the momentary switch? I was to be able to disarm but flipping EITHER SF or SH.
    Thanks!

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  7 років тому

      +Marshall Campbell you can do that. Make a new line that is true whenever SF or SH and make that line be the end condition for the sticky.

  • @tma450
    @tma450 7 років тому

    thats what I was looking for. thanks

  • @PatrizioBoschi
    @PatrizioBoschi 7 років тому

    Why the MAX override on CH5 mix, instead of a OverrideCH3 -100 on Special Functions? I think the latter is safer, as it overrides the input completely, and keeps to possibility to move the other axes freely, useful on some quadcopters where you can recalibrate or do other things using some stick movement combination.

  • @brontosaurusburger
    @brontosaurusburger 4 роки тому

    You can do this with just 2 logical switches. Set L01 to 'OR', argument 1 to L02, argument 2 to L01, argument 3 to SF up. L02 stays the same, but make argument 3 SH down. Use L01 in your mixer.

  • @whodawhatnow8737
    @whodawhatnow8737 6 років тому

    Thanks so much for putting this video together!
    Do you know if this would work with a simulator? I'd like to be able to maintain this functionality as a best practice, but from what I can tell, simulators don't seem to respect the arming settings.

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  6 років тому

      The simulator can be set up different ways depending on how it's programmed. Some can be set up to arm/disarm on a switch just like a real quad.

  • @doondedulin44
    @doondedulin44 8 років тому

    Bloody great idea. Thanks 😊

  • @jeffreyvankippersluis5817
    @jeffreyvankippersluis5817 6 років тому

    Great vid! Shouldn’t i set up the channels in Betaflight? I’ve done the Boolean logics in the taranis as described however the quad still stick arms.....

    • @JoshuaBardwell
      @JoshuaBardwell  6 років тому

      You have to enable Arm Mode in Betaflight. That will disable stick arming.