The 5100G with the blue dial and 10 day power reserve is my favorite - maybe among all the Patek watches. The version with the rose-gold and black dial is equally impressive. 5200G is amazing too.
Yes, Yacov, those are nice. Here's one I like, especially pre-2009 when they didn't have the silicon hairspring: www.jaztime.com/patek-philippe-5098r-001-gondolo-32-x-42mm-gold-guilloche-arabic-rose-gold-leather-manual Their prices have shot over recently, but I hope they come down eventually and I can find one. Take care, Bill
There's something about the tonneau-ish shape and uniqueness of that model with its quiet confidence that evokes the executive suite worn by someone with nothing to prove, John. How do you like it it? Does it wear large, small or in-between? Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci hi Bill- thank you for the reply. I really like it as a watch. I have the Rose Gold version with the black Alligator (or Croc - I forget) strap. It does wear quite small to be honest and I reckon my wife could easily wear it. It is extremely understated as a watch and quietly screams class in my opinion. It’s NOT brash, or sparkly or even well known as a watch but it is a PATEK with everything that brings with it. I bought it when my mother died with money she left me. I don’t wear it all that much as I try and put all my watches in rotation. Can you tell me much about the history of it? There is NOTHING a about it at all online on UA-cam for example. I would send you a photo of it but I don’t seem to be able to reply with a photo.
@@johncarlobellotti8611 To find out more about your watch, I'd suggest starting here for a general background on the Gondolo: www.patek.com/en/company/about-time/the-gondolo-an-extraordinary-heritage Then join a Facebook Patek owner's group: facebook.com/groups/795500770595819/ They'll have far more information than I could provide. Once you've done that, you can share what you found with us!😉 Take care, Bill
Hi Bill I’m fortunate enough to have a 5124 since 2017 and it does sit a bit small on the wrist and scratches quite easily but is still a piece of art and a pleasure to wear. I’m sure you are aware that at the turn of the last century the gondolo jewellers had a monthly raffle for a Patek as they were popular and scarce.They apparently had a club that members paid into monthly and a raffle when the allocation arrived for members only for the one Patek that arrived. I’m a font of useless information. Regards and keep up the good work plenty of us nerds enjoy your channel.
Hey Beanz, thanks for that! A 5124 with a salmon dial is still one I'd like ... but it's (unfortunately) one of many. I've got to go through my collection and sell everything I never use... Take care, Bill
That's really a nice, quiet yet powerful watch HT03... I found one with the Geneva Seal, and that means one without the silicon hairspring! ( www.chrono24.com/patekphilippe/gondolo-rose-gold-rose-dial-mens-watch-5109--id27718925.htm) I like the salmon/rg combination myself. Take care, Bill
The 5100G has the shaped movement (❤️) and the 5024 not only has big crowded numbers of the dial, it has a solid back covering up a round movement. Merry 🎅. Take care, Bill
Guten Morgen Bill, thanks for another great video. As I learn more about watch collecting , I started to a have greater appreciation for rectangular shape watches. I researched the case diameter for 5098R and I found it’s 42 x 32mm. I bet it looks much nicer up close & on wrist. I like 5124 & I see some similarities that is shared with Cartier tank solo, 5200G also looks good. Thanks for the story and the history, you are great, cheers!
Thanks Marc. I don't see how it would wear small (as I was told) with those dimensions. The 5124 does have that Tank-like shape, and so does my Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece with the Jaquet 736...and it has an exhibition window. Still I'd take the 5124... Take care, Bill
Salutations Bill! I particularly enjoyed this video as it profiles two of my favourite Pateks, the 5111 and the 5124. To my mind, both look best in yellow gold (which I know seems to have fallen from favour somewhat) although the white gold variants are also very attractive. At present they remain firmly on the “one day, perhaps” shopping list because both are, as you rightly point out, rather expensive. That said, never say never.......
Shaver, I like yellow/rose/red/pink gold too ... white gold looks like stainless steel or platinum - I cannot tell the difference between the three. I didn't think much of the 5111 when I first saw it, but since I saw one in a collection I reviewed, I've come to like it a lot! The calibre 215PS is a beautiful one, but with a solid case back I didn't get to see it. Here's one for sale that has both gold and platinum in the case: www.secondtimearoundwatchco.com/watches-for-sale/a/a/12166 There'll be one for you. Cheers, Bill
Hello, for my standpoint shaped watches need shaped calibers, like the beautiful 9-90 for PP. Round watch ...round caliber...It is a sort of harmony and coherence from manufacturing conception. Furthermore, no "donut" for centering caliber into oversized case. Stay safe. Take care.
They all used to be on the Patek site, Babak, but now that they're out of production, you'll have to go dig up the dimensions yourself. Let me know what you find. Take care, Bill
Jurje, the 3553/1 is from the 1970s, it wasn't until 1993 that Patek Philippe launched the Gondolo collection. So, while it has a similar shape as Gondolos (not round) it is not one. Take care, Bill
Hi Bill.... bought my wife a gondolo .. 5030j-001...( year 2002 approx, yellow gold tonneau,)....2 years ago...a mans watch but it look great....super watches.
WatchArtSci great video, thanks Bill.. I also considered both the Calatrava and a Gondola.. but was also looking at a JLC Reverso. Decided to go for the Calatrava and am still in the market for a Reverso..
@@watchartsci Well, I am not a fan of tourbillions unless its not shown on the dial. I do feel 4hz is a bit too generic nowadays. I prefer 5hz, 3hz and 2.5hz.
I like my 5109P better than most of those - it is ultra slim (< 6mm) and they came in in all precious metals, with P having a unique dial. It has a closed back with 215 PS movement and is very closely related to the 5196P, but wears larger at 43 x 30mm.
Hi Bill. I sent you 2 photos of the Patek Phillip Gondolo I mentioned before. I sent it to your Instagram messages. I just want to know how you like them. Thanks Bill. 5630g
The 5100G with the blue dial and 10 day power reserve is my favorite - maybe among all the Patek watches. The version with the rose-gold and black dial is equally impressive. 5200G is amazing too.
Yes, Yacov, those are nice. Here's one I like, especially pre-2009 when they didn't have the silicon hairspring: www.jaztime.com/patek-philippe-5098r-001-gondolo-32-x-42mm-gold-guilloche-arabic-rose-gold-leather-manual Their prices have shot over recently, but I hope they come down eventually and I can find one. Take care, Bill
Great video as always Bill. My favorite Gondolo’s are the 5100G and the 5200G. Such stunning looking watches that are classically elegant.
Good choice Bruce! I like almost all of them...especially, the hand-wound versions. Take care, Bill
Great lecture today. Suarez in Barcelona has a Gondolo.. I was privileged to buy a PP month/ day/ date today. I am really happy with it!
Wonderful James! That's really a nice watch! Congratulations! Bill
Thank you for the video..The Gondolo, The Cabaret, The Petit Prince..those are beautiful watches
Glad you like them, Jose! Only for the creative souls! Cheers, Bill
Hello Bill-
Thanks for the video. What about the 3842r?
I have one of these.
There's something about the tonneau-ish shape and uniqueness of that model with its quiet confidence that evokes the executive suite worn by someone with nothing to prove, John. How do you like it it? Does it wear large, small or in-between? Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci hi Bill- thank you for the reply. I really like it as a watch. I have the Rose Gold version with the black Alligator (or Croc - I forget) strap. It does wear quite small to be honest and I reckon my wife could easily wear it. It is extremely understated as a watch and quietly screams class in my opinion. It’s NOT brash, or sparkly or even well known as a watch but it is a PATEK with everything that brings with it. I bought it when my mother died with money she left me. I don’t wear it all that much as I try and put all my watches in rotation. Can you tell me much about the history of it? There is NOTHING a about it at all online on UA-cam for example. I would send you a photo of it but I don’t seem to be able to reply with a photo.
@@johncarlobellotti8611 To find out more about your watch, I'd suggest starting here for a general background on the Gondolo: www.patek.com/en/company/about-time/the-gondolo-an-extraordinary-heritage Then join a Facebook Patek owner's group: facebook.com/groups/795500770595819/ They'll have far more information than I could provide. Once you've done that, you can share what you found with us!😉 Take care, Bill
Hi Bill
I’m fortunate enough to have a 5124 since 2017 and it does sit a bit small on the wrist and scratches quite easily but is still a piece of art and a pleasure to wear.
I’m sure you are aware that at the turn of the last century the gondolo jewellers had a monthly raffle for a Patek as they were popular and scarce.They apparently had a club that members paid into monthly and a raffle when the allocation arrived for members only for the one Patek that arrived.
I’m a font of useless information.
Regards and keep up the good work plenty of us nerds enjoy your channel.
Hey Beanz, thanks for that! A 5124 with a salmon dial is still one I'd like ... but it's (unfortunately) one of many. I've got to go through my collection and sell everything I never use... Take care, Bill
Don't have Gondolo yet, but recently purchased a Franck Muller Chronometro 5850 which has the same dial as the Patek 5098
Yes, Xuliuk, it has a very similar dial. What size is it? Thanks ,Bill
@@watchartsci 45mm×32mm, which is slightly larger than 5098, but i think lug to lug is almost the same
My favorite Patek watch is the gondolo line.
Mine too, Blake, but PP dropped it ... maybe it will come back. Take care, Bill
Nice video Bill! I'm saving up for the Gondolo 5109 salmon/rose gold dial.
That's really a nice, quiet yet powerful watch HT03... I found one with the Geneva Seal, and that means one without the silicon hairspring! ( www.chrono24.com/patekphilippe/gondolo-rose-gold-rose-dial-mens-watch-5109--id27718925.htm) I like the salmon/rg combination myself. Take care, Bill
Great vid! Thanks for that. I have a 5100G and I love it. However you seemed to have missed mentioning the 5024?
The 5100G has the shaped movement (❤️) and the 5024 not only has big crowded numbers of the dial, it has a solid back covering up a round movement. Merry 🎅. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Yes we like bigger numbers the older we get Bill as otherwise can't see the blooming things!🤣
@@realstradman Big numbers are my friends too!🥸
Guten Morgen Bill, thanks for another great video. As I learn more about watch collecting , I started to a have greater appreciation for rectangular shape watches. I researched the case diameter for 5098R and I found it’s 42 x 32mm. I bet it looks much nicer up close & on wrist. I like 5124 & I see some similarities that is shared with Cartier tank solo, 5200G also looks good. Thanks for the story and the history, you are great, cheers!
Thanks Marc. I don't see how it would wear small (as I was told) with those dimensions. The 5124 does have that Tank-like shape, and so does my Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece with the Jaquet 736...and it has an exhibition window. Still I'd take the 5124... Take care, Bill
I own a PP Gondolo Ref. 2488J and it is by far the nicest watch in my collection. Hoping it gets passed down from generation to generation one day.
Hi Casey, it's a very Madison Avenue watch-very nice watch to own! Take care, Bill.
great video, love the 5098R~
"Benzinger - Moser pocket watch". I discover this and think it is very beautiful
cheers,
Cool Kk, thanks man! There're a lot of watches off the beaten path worth having! Take care, Bill
Salutations Bill! I particularly enjoyed this video as it profiles two of my favourite Pateks, the 5111 and the 5124. To my mind, both look best in yellow gold (which I know seems to have fallen from favour somewhat) although the white gold variants are also very attractive. At present they remain firmly on the “one day, perhaps” shopping list because both are, as you rightly point out, rather expensive. That said, never say never.......
Shaver, I like yellow/rose/red/pink gold too ... white gold looks like stainless steel or platinum - I cannot tell the difference between the three. I didn't think much of the 5111 when I first saw it, but since I saw one in a collection I reviewed, I've come to like it a lot! The calibre 215PS is a beautiful one, but with a solid case back I didn't get to see it. Here's one for sale that has both gold and platinum in the case: www.secondtimearoundwatchco.com/watches-for-sale/a/a/12166 There'll be one for you. Cheers, Bill
great video. I'm a huge fan of the gondolo line.
Same here Kkchrome! Sorry to see them go, but maybe we can get some good buys. Cheers, Bill
Great content. PP a great brand and will exist way past COVID-19. Nice video mate.
Thanks man!👍 Well Tim, I hope so, and I hope to make it past C19 too! Take care, Bill
That 5200G is 🔥. 5124 is nice as well and easier on the wallet. Not that any of them are inexpensive.
Yes, that and the 5098R-001. Both are part of the Gondolo line they no longer make. Take care, Bill
Hello, for my standpoint shaped watches need shaped calibers, like the beautiful 9-90 for PP. Round watch ...round caliber...It is a sort of harmony and coherence from manufacturing conception. Furthermore, no "donut" for centering caliber into oversized case. Stay safe. Take care.
I agree, Francesco ... shaped movements for shaped watches. Take care, Bill
Great video would like to know the size of these watches
They all used to be on the Patek site, Babak, but now that they're out of production, you'll have to go dig up the dimensions yourself. Let me know what you find. Take care, Bill
Great video, thanks Bill..
Glad you enjoyed it, Giovan! Take care Bill
Is 3553/1 is from Gondolo series?
Jurje, the 3553/1 is from the 1970s, it wasn't until 1993 that Patek Philippe launched the Gondolo collection. So, while it has a similar shape as Gondolos (not round) it is not one. Take care, Bill
Yes Patek 5200G-010 is very nice watch.
Yes indeed, Radoslaw! Cheers, bill
Hi Bill.... bought my wife a gondolo .. 5030j-001...( year 2002 approx, yellow gold tonneau,)....2 years ago...a mans watch but it look great....super watches.
Very nice Tommy! That is a great gift for you wife ... super classy watch that she can tell the time with at a glance! Take care, Bill
Thank you very much Bill 👍
The 5098 is my favorite of all.
It's getting to be the same with me Leya, but I'm still not sure why! Cheers, Bill
This Patek Philip looks like your 736 Jacquet. nice review Bill.
Yes, Reza, and the 736 watches aren't nearly as expensive as the Patek Gondolo pieces! Take care, Bill
what is the other name for Jacquet 736 my friend?
@@rezasoheil La Joux-Perret 736.xxx (e.g. 736.3)
@@watchartsci Thank you very much
I was thinking of getting a Gondolo rather than a Calatrava as my first (and only) Patek.
Both are good choices. I have a Calatrava and I'd like a Gondolo...the will is there; the money is not! Cheers, Bill
WatchArtSci great video, thanks Bill.. I also considered both the Calatrava and a Gondola.. but was also looking at a JLC Reverso. Decided to go for the Calatrava and am still in the market for a Reverso..
I heard that 4hz tourbillions are one of the most difficult feats in watchmaking. 4Hz tourbillions are uncommon.
Btw, I like the 5100G.
Hi Tippy, I've never heard that, but it could well be. However, I'm not much of a 4Hz or tourbillon fan; so I wouldn't know. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Well, I am not a fan of tourbillions unless its not shown on the dial.
I do feel 4hz is a bit too generic nowadays. I prefer 5hz, 3hz and 2.5hz.
I like my 5109P better than most of those - it is ultra slim (< 6mm) and they came in in all precious metals, with P having a unique dial. It has a closed back with 215 PS movement and is very closely related to the 5196P, but wears larger at 43 x 30mm.
Hi SouthNC, I really like the looks of the 215 and I wish it were in more watches with exhibition windows. Take care, Bill
I almost bought a 5014, but when I made up my mind to buy it, it was gone...
Not to worry Tony ... there will be another. Take care, Bill
Hi Bill. I sent you 2 photos of the Patek Phillip Gondolo I mentioned before. I sent it to your Instagram messages. I just want to know how you like them. Thanks Bill. 5630g
I will check it out Asmara. Thanks. Take care and be safe, Bill😷
toblerone .... hahaha ... too many chocolates during lockdown!
Hmmmmm chocolate....😷