The app is a hoax. They wanted to see how far people would go to use technology to make things convenient for themselves: www.theverge.com/2017/1/31/14455622/adoptly-app-tinder-child-adoption-art-project-reveal Adoption isn't about finding a child who the right fit for your family. It's about making sure YOU are the right fit for the CHILD. I don't know what's more disgusting, the concept of this app or the fact that so many people would actually go along with it. Adoption is difficult for a reason. If you're truly serious adopting a child, you would be willing to jump through hoops because you understand that doing so is in the best interest of the CHILD. People are so self-centered and easily swayed.
I love how calm and well spoken Adrienne was with this topic. She needs more serious convos she might be a better mediator than Loni. She took everyones opinions seriously and explained it calmly. Often times we the viewers see how they get frustrated with one another if they dont agree which is natural. But producers def take a look at adrienne for more serious topics. She wasn't emotional or let any ones questions annoy her. Very well done segment
I'm on the fence with this one. I agree with Loni, but on the other hand I'm thinking like Jeannie and Tamera. Adrienne did a good job explaining things though.
Empressive I was on the fence at first but when Adrienne explain things it made me feel better and on her side it's just another way of seeing children. Jeannie was saying like it's morally wrong to just swipe away a kid and say what you don't want .... but like Adrienne tried to explain is The SAMMEEE exact process by just paperwork and you went someone and you put aside the kids or kid you don't want. It's the same thing just technology makes the process easier
I don't think this is a bad idea. From the way Adrienne explained it, it's just like looking at the folder they would give you. I assume you would need to go and meet the child your interested in adopting. Using this app is just a way to help speed up the process. If this can somehow helps kids in foster care get adopted then maybe it's worth a shot.
anditspaganpoetry Yeah let's add children to the list of superficial things to swipe for. They totally fit. By the way, the app is a hoax. They creators did it to see how stupid people are: www.theverge.com/2017/1/31/14455622/adoptly-app-tinder-child-adoption-art-project-reveal
anditspaganpoetry peanutjelly that's understandable, but that doesn't mean that this kind of technology can't be used for ther purposes. And I assume that potential parent would still need to go through a background check, have their home inspected etc.
Random thought, but they should get Tia to replace Tamera one day without announcing it, and draw a mole on her cheek and make her talk like Tamera and everything, just to see if we'll notice.
Adrienne and Loni are the only reasonable people in this discussion. Yes, it does seem a little distasteful, but to be honest the underlying process is exactly how adoption works normally. People have preferences for the child's age and ethnicity.
Very true. I think Jeannie was really touchy bc she has very strong feelings about having/raising a kid and Tam has her own kids so... Everyone had good intentions I think
I want to adopt, is there anyone with an AP baby they don't like I'll have 4 of them please... Do the parents have to be healthy... I never until recently thought about these Myq&a: 1. Does doctors or RN students can still practice med or get their degree if they have aids? 2. Can Ms. America be a contestent or any beauty queen if they have aids? 3. Do an adopting family can adopt if they have aids and the child or children don't? 4. Can a sex changed lady becomes Ms. Universe or Ms America?
CJ willz we know it is the same process just swipoing on the phone is the different part. we get that. the problem is that it does not feel very heart felt when a child is adopted by swipping on a phone. no matter how u word it or try to make it seem just a heart felt,,, it isnt. thats the problem. someone who is swipping on a phone is trying ONLY to make it easier for themselves.
CJ willz right? We're living in a digital age. And in a ten more years paper won't even exist anymore. If they change ONE preliminary step of adoption to make the process easier and less time consuming it ain't that deep
AJ N no. if u were adopted by someone who swiped right for tou versus hours and hours of work and trying to find the right agency, you would probably think different.
Adrienne said a thousand times that the app was preliminary so if the parents would probably research the agency once they found a kid they would adopt
Ayy Gee no its a way longer process. People who take the time and go through an agency face to face. It is way more genuine than swiping to make it easier for your own self. Thats greedy. Oh and btw the app ended up being a SCAM. 🙄 Thats another problem with technology when it comes to childrens lives.
Dana H omg it's not like actual online shopping it's just to see their files you'd still have to go through the same long process I'm sure if it were real
Originally, i was like that's so inhumane but I don't see the difference between swiping left/right vs turning a page in the binders they gave you. It's the same thing. It's the same action. It's the same rejection. And it's not the app that's heartbreaking, it's the thought that children's lives DEPEND on it that's heartbreaking. (I want adopt/foster when I'm stable enough)
gigglyfitzgirl I wondered the same thing! I've never seen her so informed on a particular subject or discuss it so maturely without any random inappropriate jokes! No shade to Adrienne because I really like her. Just never seen this side to her on the real
@daynamonet You know folks always have make nothing into something. I agree that the discussion was good and although everyone didn't agree, it didn't get rude or disrespectful.
The app is the same process just digitalized. That's all. Poor Adrienne out here getting winded cause Jeannie and Tamera jumped on the butt hurt train too fast. Lol
Jeannie and Tamara are missing the point. When you reject a child on folder you're basically swiping left or right. They were just making it seem worst than it is. To me someone using the app and someone actually sitting in the orphanage looking at the folder are doing the same thing and have the same objective, to find a child a new and safe home. That's what it's all about
+Deborah Silva Some people are just raised that way.Dr Betty Shabazz said she never knew about racism until she left home as a grown woman,and some people just live in their own world.
But how is she acting clueless? She's just asking questions in order to obtain more knowledge so she can make an informed opinion? Seems like something an intelligent person would do to me.
Hmm interesting how swiping is looked at as disgusting when it comes to a child. What about adults? Do we truly value ourselves if we're putting ourselves on an app where we give others permission to simply "swipe" left or right on us?
That person to person thing Jeannie mentioned is important. I think Adrienne kept thinking of it in terms of logistics but not the seriousness/dedication mindset of someone whose going in person, etc.
These companies are going out of their way to make everything convenient for people and it's starting to get a little ridiculous. Adopting a child SHOULD be a long and drawn out process, not one of convenience. People who are truly serious about adopting shouldn't mind having to take the time to look through folders and consult with different agencies. You'd visit as many car dealerships or real estate brokers as necessary because you know that buying a car or a house is a huge commitment. Why should adopting a whole entire child be an easy process?
Wait, isn't that how adoption really works? Except for this one it's mobile/digital? I'm surprised how Jeannie and Tamera are kinda off with the idea. I kinda like it 'cause it gives adoptive parents more options to see who's compatible with them and for the children to be adopted to be given more exposure so that they can have a chance to be adopted. A lot of children aren't really given a chance to be seen and to be noticed if it's just a regular visit to an agency. This is a milestone for mankind.
You guys are so mean, the topic is on children, and Tamera is a mother, she's on the panel to give her opinion and perspective, thats the whole point, why does everyone get so mad when she even mentions her child or husband? what y'all want her to say? the topics enable her to speak about these things. DAMN!
Imagine if there was like an audition video to get adopted. You got 30 seconds to show us what you got. America's next top kid. 😂 Ok I'm so sorry but I have a dark sense of humor. 😭
Jxxj X what next are we going to have kids on every t.v in the country in comercials with a sign on their forehead saying adopt me its easy call 1-800-adoptme its so quick and easy and very affordable. is that what you would like? wouldnt that be so easy... damn people are so,selfish.
Adrienne was well informed for this.. good job girl. The two to the left are acting clueless... get it together. That's just how it is! It's just now on an app? What's the difference? When Americans go overseas to adopt, don't they shop for the child they want? It's all about preferences.. it's not just he swipe.. back in the day they were thumbing their folders upon folders. It's all the same.
When I was watching it this morning, I was actually like : WHY?!?! Because yes technology is amazing BUT we can't use it for everything , being able to see a child face to face and getting to know about them BEFORE even adopting them is not comparable to just looking at a profile and swiping left and right... this is not a dating app , this is a child that needs love and care !!!
but this is just a preliminary process, so even before meeting a child, or getting to know them even more you are still going to be presented with a bunch of files of different children to see which one is right for your home. (still sounds weird) but i said the same thing until adrienne explained that.
Mia Queen meaning their files in folders are more ij depth with the details while this app is just like a menu... you make a request . you get what u want and leave! !!
do you know how determental it could be to children if they were required to meet all potentional adoptive parents prior to being adopted? They aren't puppies, that never happens. Adrienne did a horrible job at explaining this app. All the app does is remove the excessive waste of paper. Same process, different format.
and I'm guessing it cuts down the time spent with each prospective adopter going through the preliminary phases allowing that manpower to be better spent on folks who have made a decision and are ready to move forward- sounds time effective. Not to mention exposing the adopters to more kids, some of which would not even be considered if you go to one agency and are handed a handful of files.
Adrienne is so educated on this topic. I'm so glad she was able to inform Tamera and Jeannie because they seem to only hear about what it is, make assumptions, and get upset about it. At least Tamera had good questions about it. Also, I don't understand why Jeannie is so pissy about it. I looked up adoptions after this girl chat and they have the exact same thing online. All I would have to do is scroll through different kids of all genders, races, and ethnicities and pick a child I want to know more about. All Jeannie seems to focus on is the fact that it's "like Tinder" when it's not. It's just like looking at a folder in person or looking at kids online... you pick what's best for you and/or your family.
Can I just say, this is the best girl chat in a long time. A genuine conversation when they look at each other* and discuss the topic, an interesting topic with depth, no whack ass jokes from Loni, opposing views and not just bc someone wants to play devil's advocate or in an attempt to make it seem like it's an actual discussion. *it just really ticks me off when everyone is talking and Loni starts talking to them but looks at the camera as if she's talking to us. Like plz, we cannot respond. Just talk to your cohosts plz.
miguele71 she not willin to have kids n dats ok its her life but her ass needs to stop judgin those who wanna have or adopt kids ...its da same ass process whither its a picture in file or on a screen !
The child being loved is most important, so if being selective via an app achieves that then good. I've been in foster care in two separate homes as a kid and the last one was amazing. The whole family actually wanted me and my brother. They were all in tears including coco the dog when my dad came to get us. so in my experience love gives life bad that is what children need especially in these circumstances.
Loni & A are spot on! I agree with what they're saying. As someone who has witnessed how bad being in the system can be for kids, I'm all for having an app to help out the process.
Jeanie is so sensitive, maybe she does want kids. I don't see anything wrong, Adrienne explained it well. If the app helps, then why not? PC culture blah blah blah, I'm asian so I want an Asian baby. I ain't picking another ethnicity, call me racist but I ain't just gonna be like "Oh I LOVE EVERYONE, GIVE ME ANY I DON'T CARE :D"
I am a foster child my self and I sorry but in this matter Jeanie May spoke up for the wrong thing I mean you are meeting with the agency at some point so I think that is a good way to help many children fast with the same effect and they don't just hand you the child after you did the paper work you also have several meetings with the child before you can adopt them.
Tamera and Jenni pissed me off. Andriene kept saying it's the same process as if you had the folders at home. And people do go to multiple agencies at once. And a lot of things they tell you no for is dead wrong. That whole segment pissed me off. I'm in a wheelchair and in some states I wouldn't be allowed to adopt and Tamera and Jenni both offended me.
I agree with Tamera and Jeanie, it's more intimate selecting a child through an agency instead of posting the children on an app like you're looking for a specific puppy, it's kinda inhumane to me.
I’ve been watching the real ever since before college, I’m 22 and I truly wish there was a cast member my age , just to join the conversation and give a different perspective. Especially watching this episode, but regardless I️ loooooove this show and the ladies as well! Keep making seasons , your advice has helped me through life these past couple of years
They way Jeanie talks about raising a child is like she is going to war no wonder she does not want a child. I know it's hard work raising a child but the way Jeanie talks about is annoying
As soon as Adrienne first told us about the app I was totally fine with it b/c I know exactly what adoption already entails&I just see this as a more convenient way to go through the process and I'm sure there are other benefits as well. I think some people just get caught up in the old fashioned way of doing things sometimes without staying open-minded and listening to all the information.
adrienne that was really good! im glad you explained the adoption process. this was a really great discussion the Real!!! Last week yall had some guests that were questionable in terms of the level youre at now (i.e. realtiy tv stars) yall can have these conversations: technology and adoption and race. kinda amazing yall!
Whether its an app or a binder of info its gonna be the same. My mother is a foster parent and its very similar to this sit down process. You look through the childs file and see any and everything, the good bad and ugly. Either way you dont know the child until you interact. No file can tell you everything! Trust me, we have had all types of children. Its difficult for all parties involved.
As someone who wants to adopt in the future and has worked with impoverished and under-privileged children in both Canada and the African country of Tanzania, I think this app is a great idea. Our minds are wrongfully and immediately associating it with the superficiality of apps such as Tinder. Our world is altering and our phones are progressively becoming a more prominent tool in our lives, so why not use it? This app seems to be a very beneficial addition to the adoption process in my opinion, especially after Adrienne explains more of the specifics.
It's all about the agency in my opinion. I think what is important is not so much how much they will take care of you during the adoption process but after the process as well. I think that is when the real "battles" start. So thankful for our agency that we chose.
This story has so many elements to decipher... I've never been through the adopting process but in the end the agency picks out some children you "filtered" in your application. You may not always know what you want in a child. If it's your first time, you might have unrealistic thoughts of how this child you may adopt is going to fit into your life and family. I really do believe that if you have a wider range of selection, you really might find a profile which you and the agency may initially have skipped due to the criteria. Just the idea that there are multiple agencies makes the spectrum very broad. I surely believe that's something positive. As long as all agencies and children are represented properly... what's the harm?
Adrienne did a great job of explaining this. I wish she had more time to explain the full process and everyone would of just let her explain for a minute. It sounds crazy, but I do believe this is a good idea just because it allows people who are looking for a child to go through the files on there own and take more time. I don’t think any of us would completely understand what the app is like unless we actually had it in front of us.
shut up jeanie good god adrienne was just explaining something. she's so patient. i would've been pissed getting cut off and receiving that attitude. SHE WAS JUST EXPLAINING SOMETHING.
As an adoptive parent the system does not work like that. You can give preference to your worker/agent but you don't get to see the children beforehand. After you are vetted, cleared by them, FBI and your personal background is completely discussed and approved you get a phone call " we have your son/daughter and you are then given specifics on age etc. and you decide before you even see the child if you want to move forward. Then there is a familiarization process that you have to go through to see if you are good fit and if so you take the child home with monthly social work visits while the the right of births are being taken away. Which can take up to a year and then the judge declares you the parents. It is not simple at all.
Adrienne there's a BIG diff between swiping left or right on the basis of only the physical appearance of a child and actually going into an agency and speaking thoroughly with a and interviewer.
I do not see anything wrong with this app. It is a great way for children's to get adopted and they do not have to go threw the process of meeting every kid instead of the ones one is very interested in.
NO. In person is better just bc you’re cleared doesn’t mean you’re an actual good fit VIBES count it’s a huge part of reading a person and knowing what kind of person they are!!!!
funny, all these women criticizing this app wouldn't adopt anyway (didn't some of them even wanted to freeze their eggs?)...so its pretty pathetic to talk on this topic if you aren't in the shoes of adoptive parents...
I disagree. The time and effort it takes to meet the an agency, lawyers, families, foster parents, etc. demonstrate that the adoptive parents are in it 100%. Face to face communication allows the authority figures (lawyers, agents) in the situation to assess if the couple or person filing for the adoption will make good parents. People DO adopt children for the wrong reasons and it usually happens when there is not a lot of face to face communication. Jeannie is right.
Adrienne explained that when you pick the child out on the app, you go in person to meet with an agent there on out. The only difference is that you don't sit down with an agent with folders to pick out a child, you do it on the app. After that they will still have to meet the agency, lawyers, families, foster parents etc. They will still have face to face communication with the authority figures. It's the same except one step was changed. ONE.
But people do the same thing when they go to different adoption agency websites and scroll down to look at different kids..? I understand that the swiping sounds bad but it's getting more kids' faces/online folders out there and that might bring them closer to a good family
I really hate how people on here are tryina make Tamera look dumb. Tameras' interest is to understand exactly what is being spoken so that her rebuttal isn't doesn't become insignificant. You guys are just tryina play difficult because it was clear about where she was going; she wanted to understand how safe this app was for the children being 'auctioned'. In reality, if anyone can download the app it becomes harder for the agencies to screen these adoptive parents thoroughly prior to adoption, deeming them fit or unfit through interpersonal conversations etc, And finally, when children's documents are placed in that type of environment, they are more open to things like blackmailing, exploitation etc because hackers and other people in the cyber crime realm can easily get access to these files.
for at least 10 years the profiles of foster kids up for adoption have been listed on state websites. I like the idea of getting to see all of the kids from a larger area in one place instead of scouring the entire world wide web
Man I don't know about this app.. it makes me uncomfortable for some reason. I understand what Adrienne was saying but it's something abnormal about it in MY opinion.
I agree with Adrienne. I'm sorry. I know it sounds harsh, but it's the same thing as adopting from an agency. It's just on a phone. It's literally the same thing. You choose a few different children based on a provided profile. Then you may meet all of them or just a couple. Sometimes adoption agencies don't even show the perspective parents what the child looks like at all. I know people who literally knew NOTHING about their child before the met them for the first time. If anything this app probably gives people who want to adopt more of a choice. It sounds so black and white but it's really not that different from the normal process. This is coming from someone who knows A LOT of people who have adopted, and I've done a lot of research because I myself would like to adopt a child one day. I would not be against trying this out.
I didn't see anything wrong with it from the beginning. Was wondering why the audience were initially thinking it was bad- it's basically the same thing that is already done except the initial process is on your phones right? However, I would prefer if in future all the cohosts knew the topics properly so that they can have an in depth discussion about the topic, rather than being confused about the details of it.
My grandmother adopted my parent sight unseen. So I have a very personal opinion when it comes to adoption. To think of the idea 60 years later, my mom being on a profile as a baby and people just swiping past her... Makes me wanna fight! But to Jeannie and Tamera's point, at least with an agency, even thought you're dealing with files, it's being "brokered" by a (hopefully) certified agent. So that adds to the humanity of it all. The app just makes it sound so cold and about statistics.
Adri, not every agency work the same way! The child is (or at least should be) the priority! They show the family profile to the child or/and birth family, so many times the choice it's not the adoptive parent's! If you are going to adopt from the foster system, the agency will do their best to match a child to your family accordantly with the info on your home study, what you have discussed with your social worker, and mostly important accordantly to that chid's needs. ps: I'm an adoptive momma in the making. ❤
I see where they are all coming from, and forgive me for saying this, but I respect Tameras opinion more than Jeanies on this subject. Jeannie can say all the politically correct stuff she wants, but at the end of the day, she doesn't even want children at all, let alone adopt one in need. Tameras the one who wants to adopt. And so, it just seems weird for Jeannie to criticize something that is helping more kids get adopted when she won't even consider that herself.
An app IMO is way better than physically going into an agency, interviewing the children, rejecting others and picking your fav! With an app the children don't have to feel/see the rejection.
It's interesting how much more care and concern there is in regards to becoming a parent when people are adopting. It gets heated and serious pretty fast, but none of these concerns would arise if a family said that they were trying to get pregnant. And this isn't just them, but society. It's like people trying to adopt should pass a test while people who can get pregnant have no test or strict criteria to meet whatsoever. Any thoughts? Ultimately the end result is the same, right?
If it helps more children get adopted (safely), and maybe it will help lower cost. Obviously none of it should be at the risk of endangering the child. If they knew how the foster care system worked, or about other children who are waiting to be adopted that are often overlooked maybe they'd really grasp it more. It's not just about making it easier on the person wanting to adopt but instead making it easier to connect families from across your country or the world. It definitely will have to be tested but for the idea isn't a bad one.
anyone else watching old clips because they are on hiatus for the summer?? I thought this was a bad idea but after hearing Adrienne explain it thoroughly I think its a good idea. I knew someone who was interested in adoption its EXTREMELY expensive why? because the money goes to the agency. For people who can't have children it can be extremely hard as well but there are so many children in foster care that also need a home. ( This is why people adopt children from other countries to be honest)
Ok look, I don't like the idea of swiping because, like Jeannie said, the design comes from tinder which never sat well with me from the start. BUT is it really THAT bad? Do people not choose the child they want to adopt in person? And why did Jeannie gasp when Adrienne said you can choose the ethnicity, age and gender? Like those are important factors for families who want to adopt. Idk, overall, the design of the app is weird to me but I can see what they're trying to do here.
Nelly Boo yeh to me both of them always come off as perfectionists who empower women or wateva ...i just skip them esp jeanie ..always been my least favourite one😒
I am a foster mom.. it is the way it is.. there is a catalog that kids placed in foster homes and have not been adopted they go in a book of adoptions.. people can look at pics and read about different children.. and pick what child you want to adopt. I will just say.. the descriptions are what they want you to know and hear.. not saying none of it true.. but a lot is fabricated to make child seem better... etc... It is the GOVERNMENT.
it sounded bad when Adrienne first talked about the app, but when she explained it more it totally made sense.
daughterof arawelo that sounded terrible
Somali pride!
daughterof arawelo airhead Adrienne don't know what she talking about
ItsSofiyasWorld Ayeeeeee
The app is a hoax. They wanted to see how far people would go to use technology to make things convenient for themselves: www.theverge.com/2017/1/31/14455622/adoptly-app-tinder-child-adoption-art-project-reveal
Adoption isn't about finding a child who the right fit for your family. It's about making sure YOU are the right fit for the CHILD. I don't know what's more disgusting, the concept of this app or the fact that so many people would actually go along with it. Adoption is difficult for a reason. If you're truly serious adopting a child, you would be willing to jump through hoops because you understand that doing so is in the best interest of the CHILD. People are so self-centered and easily swayed.
I love how calm and well spoken Adrienne was with this topic. She needs more serious convos she might be a better mediator than Loni. She took everyones opinions seriously and explained it calmly. Often times we the viewers see how they get frustrated with one another if they dont agree which is natural. But producers def take a look at adrienne for more serious topics. She wasn't emotional or let any ones questions annoy her. Very well done segment
I'm on the fence with this one. I agree with Loni, but on the other hand I'm thinking like Jeannie and Tamera. Adrienne did a good job explaining things though.
Empressive I was on the fence at first but when Adrienne explain things it made me feel better and on her side it's just another way of seeing children. Jeannie was saying like it's morally wrong to just swipe away a kid and say what you don't want .... but like Adrienne tried to explain is The SAMMEEE exact process by just paperwork and you went someone and you put aside the kids or kid you don't want. It's the same thing just technology makes the process easier
I don't think this is a bad idea. From the way Adrienne explained it, it's just like looking at the folder they would give you. I assume you would need to go and meet the child your interested in adopting. Using this app is just a way to help speed up the process. If this can somehow helps kids in foster care get adopted then maybe it's worth a shot.
Plus, people associate that kind of swiping and app stuff with superficial things: such as shopping or online dating.
anditspaganpoetry Yeah let's add children to the list of superficial things to swipe for. They totally fit. By the way, the app is a hoax. They creators did it to see how stupid people are: www.theverge.com/2017/1/31/14455622/adoptly-app-tinder-child-adoption-art-project-reveal
anditspaganpoetry peanutjelly that's understandable, but that doesn't mean that this kind of technology can't be used for ther purposes. And I assume that potential parent would still need to go through a background check, have their home inspected etc.
lilian makori I think she is the only one who took the time to do her research. I honestly hate when they get on a topic and know nothing about it.
Tre Charles it's really annoying. I heard they were talking about gay people in this episode and they sounded ignorant or something of the sort.
Is Adrienne the spokesperson for adoption? She knows so much lol
JackGeezy85 she can't know stuff?? plus that's her job is to research the topics duuh. stop complaining on EVERYTHING
I feel like she's looked into it at some point in her life with all those failed relationships.
jinixx I feel like your a hater
Tiara I get that, just watch the whole girl chat, she was only one talking about it. And I'll do whatever I want.
@ Tiara Lol says the chick/dude replying to people's comments
Random thought, but they should get Tia to replace Tamera one day without announcing it, and draw a mole on her cheek and make her talk like Tamera and everything, just to see if we'll notice.
we'd notice the laugh though. Tia's laugh is so distinct
Alreem it's easy to distinguish them apart. They have different facial features and sharper facial structure.
Alreem nah they WAYY too different in the way they act. It would be cool though.
Alreem Or what if they've already done it?
HAHAHAHHAA that is sooo funny!! but I'm sure we would notice.
For once Jeannie was getting on my nerves on how she couldn't comprehend Adrienne and Adrienne was making sense lol
Adrienne was really informed and mature in explaining and discussing the app. So nice to see this side of her❤️
Adrienne got the patience of a saint I would've told these girls to jump a bridge after 2 mins omg 💀 I hate repeating myself more than 3 times
right! lol
Bria Barrows I was ready to slap both of them like damn stfu then it's not hard to understand my lord 😫
but when she initially started talking about the app it sounded like she was knocking it
milly ma'at LMFAOOOOOOOO 😂😂😂 i was like damn ARE YOU DUMB? (Remy mas voice)
Evelyn Ramirez 😂😂😂 right? Like ok I get 2 or even 3 questions but honey she kept giving you the same answer just stop 😫
Adrienne and Loni are the only reasonable people in this discussion. Yes, it does seem a little distasteful, but to be honest the underlying process is exactly how adoption works normally. People have preferences for the child's age and ethnicity.
Very true. I think Jeannie was really touchy bc she has very strong feelings about having/raising a kid and Tam has her own kids so... Everyone had good intentions I think
I interned at an adoption and this app seems find to me... instead of a notebook of files... you get an iPad with the files uploaded
I want to adopt, is there anyone with an AP baby they don't like
I'll have 4 of them please...
Do the parents have to be healthy...
I never until recently thought about these
Myq&a:
1. Does doctors or RN students can still practice med or get their degree if they have aids?
2. Can Ms. America be a contestent or any beauty queen if they have aids?
3. Do an adopting family can adopt if they have aids and the child or children don't?
4. Can a sex changed lady becomes Ms. Universe or Ms America?
Tamera and Jeannie need to get with the times. This is a good way to improve the odds of children getting adopted.
CJ willz we know it is the same process just swipoing on the phone is the different part. we get that. the problem is that it does not feel very heart felt when a child is adopted by swipping on a phone. no matter how u word it or try to make it seem just a heart felt,,, it isnt. thats the problem. someone who is swipping on a phone is trying ONLY to make it easier for themselves.
CJ willz right? We're living in a digital age. And in a ten more years paper won't even exist anymore. If they change ONE preliminary step of adoption to make the process easier and less time consuming it ain't that deep
Sorry Jeannie, but looking through a folder or looking at a screen, it's the same.
AJ N no. if u were adopted by someone who swiped right for tou versus hours and hours of work and trying to find the right agency, you would probably think different.
Dana H same thing as looking at different kids in agencies files and setting them aside.
Adrienne said a thousand times that the app was preliminary so if the parents would probably research the agency once they found a kid they would adopt
Ayy Gee no its a way longer process. People who take the time and go through an agency face to face. It is way more genuine than swiping to make it easier for your own self. Thats greedy.
Oh and btw the app ended up being a SCAM. 🙄 Thats another problem with technology when it comes to childrens lives.
Dana H omg it's not like actual online shopping it's just to see their files you'd still have to go through the same long process I'm sure if it were real
Originally, i was like that's so inhumane but I don't see the difference between swiping left/right vs turning a page in the binders they gave you. It's the same thing. It's the same action. It's the same rejection. And it's not the app that's heartbreaking, it's the thought that children's lives DEPEND on it that's heartbreaking. (I want adopt/foster when I'm stable enough)
Did Adrienne consider adopting at one point? She knows so much about this. Or maybe she knows someone who adopted.
Adrienne friend. It's in prt2
Kayies M lol yeah thanks, I spoke too soon. 😝
gigglyfitzgirl yes she considered it cause Israel done ran dry
asdfg77 KSKSKSS LMFAO
gigglyfitzgirl I wondered the same thing! I've never seen her so informed on a particular subject or discuss it so maturely without any random inappropriate jokes! No shade to Adrienne because I really like her. Just never seen this side to her on the real
Hmmm... so this is basically the new age version of the exact same adoption process...
Breaking Alabaster exactly, people are just so sensitive nowadays.
RyderC Daniels I think people are associating it with other "swipe left, right" stuff like tinder or such dating apps.
On a side note Jeannie's hair is giving me Anxiety ! I feel like those swirls are gonna unravel any minute
Damn, I don't know if it was just me but there was so much tension during this discussion.
pwincesstrix I liked that they didn't just all agree. It was a nice discussion
Jeannie was annoying as hell
@daynamonet You know folks always have make nothing into something. I agree that the discussion was good and although everyone didn't agree, it didn't get rude or disrespectful.
There was no tension just disagreements lol
daynamonet right? They always have a variety of different opinions, and that's why I love this show
The app is the same process just digitalized. That's all. Poor Adrienne out here getting winded cause Jeannie and Tamera jumped on the butt hurt train too fast. Lol
Jeannie and Tamara are missing the point. When you reject a child on folder you're basically swiping left or right. They were just making it seem worst than it is. To me someone using the app and someone actually sitting in the orphanage looking at the folder are doing the same thing and have the same objective, to find a child a new and safe home. That's what it's all about
Megan Ami no trust me its a VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS.
Tamera has a way of acting clueless about everything unless it has to do with marriage or her children. She so damn stressful
Dee Jay ikr! Her face stays like 😯😯😯 always questioning something.
+Deborah Silva Some people are just raised that way.Dr Betty Shabazz said she never knew about racism until she left home as a grown woman,and some people just live in their own world.
But how is she acting clueless? She's just asking questions in order to obtain more knowledge so she can make an informed opinion? Seems like something an intelligent person would do to me.
Deborah Silva right.. Like that little innocent act is corny. You 38 bih
Deborah Silva Unfortunately, I don't think she's acting. You have to remember this was a sheltered, child star with strict parents
Adrienne deserves an award for this. She could not have made it any clearer.
Hmm interesting how swiping is looked at as disgusting when it comes to a child. What about adults? Do we truly value ourselves if we're putting ourselves on an app where we give others permission to simply "swipe" left or right on us?
Breaking Alabaster agreed
Breaking Alabaster preach
exactly!
Exactly!!! where is our privacy
That person to person thing Jeannie mentioned is important. I think Adrienne kept thinking of it in terms of logistics but not the seriousness/dedication mindset of someone whose going in person, etc.
Jeannie looked real dumb after Adrienne cleared things up. After hearing everything... I think the app is a good idea.
"LEEEEAVE TAMERA ALOOOOONE😩😩😩😩" I'm about to make a UA-cam video out here lol
Breaking Alabaster right! Tamera is my favorite I get so defensive when ppl talk about her lol I be ready to use these hands damn it!
LOL
"Adoptly sounds like a-phony" Jeannie really reaches for those one liners sometimes. 😂😂 Not like I have a lot of room to judge though.
Deborah Silva The audience was like 😐😐😕😕 lol
These companies are going out of their way to make everything convenient for people and it's starting to get a little ridiculous. Adopting a child SHOULD be a long and drawn out process, not one of convenience. People who are truly serious about adopting shouldn't mind having to take the time to look through folders and consult with different agencies.
You'd visit as many car dealerships or real estate brokers as necessary because you know that buying a car or a house is a huge commitment. Why should adopting a whole entire child be an easy process?
Wait, isn't that how adoption really works? Except for this one it's mobile/digital? I'm surprised how Jeannie and Tamera are kinda off with the idea. I kinda like it 'cause it gives adoptive parents more options to see who's compatible with them and for the children to be adopted to be given more exposure so that they can have a chance to be adopted. A lot of children aren't really given a chance to be seen and to be noticed if it's just a regular visit to an agency. This is a milestone for mankind.
You guys are so mean, the topic is on children, and Tamera is a mother, she's on the panel to give her opinion and perspective, thats the whole point, why does everyone get so mad when she even mentions her child or husband? what y'all want her to say? the topics enable her to speak about these things. DAMN!
Imagine if there was like an audition video to get adopted. You got 30 seconds to show us what you got. America's next top kid. 😂 Ok I'm so sorry but I have a dark sense of humor. 😭
gigglyfitzgirl I wouldn't be surprised 😩 anything is possible in the USA.
Cray May The judge says "Yeah erm issa no from me dawg. Back to the orphanage. " 😭😭
solstice. I'd totally watch it 😭😭😭
I know this isn't the subject to be laughing at but that, "show us what you got." had me dying laughing lmmfao.
shamonica stanfield 😂😂😂 Don't feel bad, some people (like me) use humor to deal with difficult topics.
At first this sounds disgusting. But Loni made a good point if this helps more kids get adopted in all for it
Jxxj X what next are we going to have kids on every t.v in the country in comercials with a sign on their forehead saying adopt me its easy call 1-800-adoptme its so quick and easy and very affordable. is that what you would like? wouldnt that be so easy... damn people are so,selfish.
oh and then people can hide behind the excuse again of "well if it helps more kids get adopted then i guess its ok".? 😂😂😂 yea riiight
wow. Adrienne is so patient with answering the questions. And seems very knowledgeable about this adoption app thing.
Yeah. You choose gender, race, age etc through the application process. Jeannie's so PC. Like adoptive parents don't have preferences.
Adrienne was well informed for this.. good job girl. The two to the left are acting clueless... get it together. That's just how it is! It's just now on an app? What's the difference? When Americans go overseas to adopt, don't they shop for the child they want? It's all about preferences.. it's not just he swipe.. back in the day they were thumbing their folders upon folders. It's all the same.
When I was watching it this morning, I was actually like : WHY?!?! Because yes technology is amazing BUT we can't use it for everything , being able to see a child face to face and getting to know about them BEFORE even adopting them is not comparable to just looking at a profile and swiping left and right... this is not a dating app , this is a child that needs love and care !!!
but this is just a preliminary process, so even before meeting a child, or getting to know them even more you are still going to be presented with a bunch of files of different children to see which one is right for your home. (still sounds weird) but i said the same thing until adrienne explained that.
Mia Queen meaning their files in folders are more ij depth with the details while this app is just like a menu... you make a request . you get what u want and leave! !!
Myronn Coleman I agree
do you know how determental it could be to children if they were required to meet all potentional adoptive parents prior to being adopted? They aren't puppies, that never happens. Adrienne did a horrible job at explaining this app. All the app does is remove the excessive waste of paper. Same process, different format.
and I'm guessing it cuts down the time spent with each prospective adopter going through the preliminary phases allowing that manpower to be better spent on folks who have made a decision and are ready to move forward- sounds time effective. Not to mention exposing the adopters to more kids, some of which would not even be considered if you go to one agency and are handed a handful of files.
Adrienne is so educated on this topic. I'm so glad she was able to inform Tamera and Jeannie because they seem to only hear about what it is, make assumptions, and get upset about it. At least Tamera had good questions about it.
Also, I don't understand why Jeannie is so pissy about it. I looked up adoptions after this girl chat and they have the exact same thing online. All I would have to do is scroll through different kids of all genders, races, and ethnicities and pick a child I want to know more about. All Jeannie seems to focus on is the fact that it's "like Tinder" when it's not. It's just like looking at a folder in person or looking at kids online... you pick what's best for you and/or your family.
No no no. This not shopping for a pet. This is a human CHILD. Not everything needs an app. 😒
gigglyfitzgirl it helps more children get adopted than doing it the traditional way since people are so into the web
gigglyfitzgirl thanks baby!
Myss Jaye ???
melvina jloah The more I watched the more I understood. I have less of an issue with it now. I guess it comes from a good place.
U said the exact right thing 👏👏
yall give Tamera a break! i had the same questions running in my head. i was also confused over how the app was available for potential adopters.
Can I just say, this is the best girl chat in a long time. A genuine conversation when they look at each other* and discuss the topic, an interesting topic with depth, no whack ass jokes from Loni, opposing views and not just bc someone wants to play devil's advocate or in an attempt to make it seem like it's an actual discussion.
*it just really ticks me off when everyone is talking and Loni starts talking to them but looks at the camera as if she's talking to us. Like plz, we cannot respond. Just talk to your cohosts plz.
Jeanie hella butt hurt yet all they tryna do is get kids adopted
miguele71 she not willin to have kids n dats ok its her life but her ass needs to stop judgin those who wanna have or adopt kids ...its da same ass process whither its a picture in file or on a screen !
Adrienne did a GOOD job explaining everything!!
The child being loved is most important, so if being selective via an app achieves that then good. I've been in foster care in two separate homes as a kid and the last one was amazing. The whole family actually wanted me and my brother. They were all in tears including coco the dog when my dad came to get us. so in my experience love gives life bad that is what children need especially in these circumstances.
Loni & A are spot on! I agree with what they're saying. As someone who has witnessed how bad being in the system can be for kids, I'm all for having an app to help out the process.
Adrienne is literally the only one who actually knows what she is talking about and had obviously seen the in agency process.
Jeanie is so sensitive, maybe she does want kids. I don't see anything wrong, Adrienne explained it well. If the app helps, then why not? PC culture blah blah blah, I'm asian so I want an Asian baby. I ain't picking another ethnicity, call me racist but I ain't just gonna be like "Oh I LOVE EVERYONE, GIVE ME ANY I DON'T CARE :D"
I am a foster child my self and I sorry but in this matter Jeanie May spoke up for the wrong thing I mean you are meeting with the agency at some point so I think that is a good way to help many children fast with the same effect and they don't just hand you the child after you did the paper work you also have several meetings with the child before you can adopt them.
Tamera and Jenni pissed me off. Andriene kept saying it's the same process as if you had the folders at home. And people do go to multiple agencies at once.
And a lot of things they tell you no for is dead wrong. That whole segment pissed me off. I'm in a wheelchair and in some states I wouldn't be allowed to adopt and Tamera and Jenni both offended me.
I agree with Tamera and Jeanie,
it's more intimate selecting a child through an agency instead of posting the children on an app like you're looking for a specific puppy, it's kinda inhumane to me.
I’ve been watching the real ever since before college, I’m 22 and I truly wish there was a cast member my age , just to join the conversation and give a different perspective. Especially watching this episode, but regardless I️ loooooove this show and the ladies as well! Keep making seasons , your advice has helped me through life these past couple of years
They way Jeanie talks about raising a child is like she is going to war no wonder she does not want a child. I know it's hard work raising a child but the way Jeanie talks about is annoying
Exactly, she gets on my nerves each time !!! Having a baby is a blessing if you don't want it, ignore it but don't shade it like for reaaaaaal
i know she's super annoying.. what did she go thru that made kids seem so awful?!
Adrienne did a wonderful job explaining it and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this.
Why is Tamera and Jeannie acting clueless about this?😒
Jeannie said she didn't want children but I LOVE the way she's been protective during this topic. She's truly showing motherly instincts 😍.
Adrienne knows about adoption 👍🏾I'm glad she researched this topic.... great job Adrienne
Who else is starting to really appreciate Jeanie lol.... but that Tamera girl :/ please leave already
SInce Tamar left Tamera has become the YoutTube comment haters new victim. Yall aint satisfied unless you're putting one of them down.
right? haters gonna always find something
right? haters gonna always find something
MissXx39 she needs to exit left she so annoying. I wish Tia was here instead
I prefer Tamera actually....they're both pretentious. But Jeannie is more disingenuous imo.
I like how Tamera ask questions sometimes. It provides a deeper understanding, and different perspective to the conversation.
As soon as Adrienne first told us about the app I was totally fine with it b/c I know exactly what adoption already entails&I just see this as a more convenient way to go through the process and I'm sure there are other benefits as well. I think some people just get caught up in the old fashioned way of doing things sometimes without staying open-minded and listening to all the information.
adrienne that was really good! im glad you explained the adoption process. this was a really great discussion the Real!!! Last week yall had some guests that were questionable in terms of the level youre at now (i.e. realtiy tv stars) yall can have these conversations: technology and adoption and race. kinda amazing yall!
These were the best group of ladies on a talk show, I’ll always miss the original set up.
Whether its an app or a binder of info its gonna be the same. My mother is a foster parent and its very similar to this sit down process. You look through the childs file and see any and everything, the good bad and ugly. Either way you dont know the child until you interact. No file can tell you everything! Trust me, we have had all types of children. Its difficult for all parties involved.
As someone who wants to adopt in the future and has worked with impoverished and under-privileged children in both Canada and the African country of Tanzania, I think this app is a great idea. Our minds are wrongfully and immediately associating it with the superficiality of apps such as Tinder. Our world is altering and our phones are progressively becoming a more prominent tool in our lives, so why not use it? This app seems to be a very beneficial addition to the adoption process in my opinion, especially after Adrienne explains more of the specifics.
It's all about the agency in my opinion. I think what is important is not so much how much they will take care of you during the adoption process but after the process as well. I think that is when the real "battles" start. So thankful for our agency that we chose.
Finally A REAL conversation...best one yet.
This story has so many elements to decipher...
I've never been through the adopting process but in the end the agency picks out some children you "filtered" in your application. You may not always know what you want in a child. If it's your first time, you might have unrealistic thoughts of how this child you may adopt is going to fit into your life and family. I really do believe that if you have a wider range of selection, you really might find a profile which you and the agency may initially have skipped due to the criteria. Just the idea that there are multiple agencies makes the spectrum very broad. I surely believe that's something positive. As long as all agencies and children are represented properly... what's the harm?
Adrienne did a great job of explaining this. I wish she had more time to explain the full process and everyone would of just let her explain for a minute. It sounds crazy, but I do believe this is a good idea just because it allows people who are looking for a child to go through the files on there own and take more time. I don’t think any of us would completely understand what the app is like unless we actually had it in front of us.
shut up jeanie good god adrienne was just explaining something. she's so patient. i would've been pissed getting cut off and receiving that attitude. SHE WAS JUST EXPLAINING SOMETHING.
Adrienne is so fantastic in this segment!
Thank you ladies for bringing awareness to this topic.
As an adoptive parent the system does not work like that. You can give preference to your worker/agent but you don't get to see the children beforehand. After you are vetted, cleared by them, FBI and your personal background is completely discussed and approved you get a phone call " we have your son/daughter and you are then given specifics on age etc. and you decide before you even see the child if you want to move forward. Then there is a familiarization process that you have to go through to see if you are good fit and if so you take the child home with monthly social work visits while the the right of births are being taken away. Which can take up to a year and then the judge declares you the parents. It is not simple at all.
Adrienne there's a BIG diff between swiping left or right on the basis of only the physical appearance of a child and actually going into an agency and speaking thoroughly with a and interviewer.
yes, finally!! differing opinions.... I love all the different perspectives
I do not see anything wrong with this app. It is a great way for children's to get adopted and they do not have to go threw the process of meeting every kid instead of the ones one is very interested in.
NO. In person is better just bc you’re cleared doesn’t mean you’re an actual good fit VIBES count it’s a huge part of reading a person and knowing what kind of person they are!!!!
funny, all these women criticizing this app wouldn't adopt anyway (didn't some of them even wanted to freeze their eggs?)...so its pretty pathetic to talk on this topic if you aren't in the shoes of adoptive parents...
I'm adopted and think this idea is disgusting. Of course, with adoption you fill out papers but the act of swiping is horrible.
I disagree. The time and effort it takes to meet the an agency, lawyers, families, foster parents, etc. demonstrate that the adoptive parents are in it 100%. Face to face communication allows the authority figures (lawyers, agents) in the situation to assess if the couple or person filing for the adoption will make good parents. People DO adopt children for the wrong reasons and it usually happens when there is not a lot of face to face communication. Jeannie is right.
I am adopted also and I ended up being adopted by an abusive family. So this sounds horrible to me too
Adrienne explained that when you pick the child out on the app, you go in person to meet with an agent there on out. The only difference is that you don't sit down with an agent with folders to pick out a child, you do it on the app. After that they will still have to meet the agency, lawyers, families, foster parents etc. They will still have face to face communication with the authority figures. It's the same except one step was changed. ONE.
But people do the same thing when they go to different adoption agency websites and scroll down to look at different kids..? I understand that the swiping sounds bad but it's getting more kids' faces/online folders out there and that might bring them closer to a good family
D S same thing as looking at different kids in agencies. looking at files and setting aside the ones you don't like
I really hate how people on here are tryina make Tamera look dumb. Tameras' interest is to understand exactly what is being spoken so that her rebuttal isn't doesn't become insignificant. You guys are just tryina play difficult because it was clear about where she was going; she wanted to understand how safe this app was for the children being 'auctioned'. In reality, if anyone can download the app it becomes harder for the agencies to screen these adoptive parents thoroughly prior to adoption, deeming them fit or unfit through interpersonal conversations etc,
And finally, when children's documents are placed in that type of environment, they are more open to things like blackmailing, exploitation etc because hackers and other people in the cyber crime realm can easily get access to these files.
for at least 10 years the profiles of foster kids up for adoption have been listed on state websites. I like the idea of getting to see all of the kids from a larger area in one place instead of scouring the entire world wide web
Man I don't know about this app.. it makes me uncomfortable for some reason. I understand what Adrienne was saying but it's something abnormal about it in MY opinion.
Brittany Burley damn right
I agree with Adrienne & Loni about the app. People with preferences is why there are so many children in the foster system in the 1st place.
Adrienne ALWAYS looks gorgeous!!
Red is such a beautiful color on Adrienne
I agree with Adrienne. I'm sorry. I know it sounds harsh, but it's the same thing as adopting from an agency. It's just on a phone. It's literally the same thing. You choose a few different children based on a provided profile. Then you may meet all of them or just a couple. Sometimes adoption agencies don't even show the perspective parents what the child looks like at all. I know people who literally knew NOTHING about their child before the met them for the first time. If anything this app probably gives people who want to adopt more of a choice. It sounds so black and white but it's really not that different from the normal process. This is coming from someone who knows A LOT of people who have adopted, and I've done a lot of research because I myself would like to adopt a child one day. I would not be against trying this out.
Why is Tamera so clueless... don't they know what topics they're going to talk about before hand?
Nora E Maybe not
I am adopted so this app really speaks to me. If people decide to swipe over a kid then they don't deserve the child.
Jeanie sure does have a lot to say for someone who doesn't want children.
I didn't see anything wrong with it from the beginning. Was wondering why the audience were initially thinking it was bad- it's basically the same thing that is already done except the initial process is on your phones right? However, I would prefer if in future all the cohosts knew the topics properly so that they can have an in depth discussion about the topic, rather than being confused about the details of it.
Adrienne is saying the truth! You have to pick your preferences when adopting anyways
My grandmother adopted my parent sight unseen. So I have a very personal opinion when it comes to adoption. To think of the idea 60 years later, my mom being on a profile as a baby and people just swiping past her... Makes me wanna fight! But to Jeannie and Tamera's point, at least with an agency, even thought you're dealing with files, it's being "brokered" by a (hopefully) certified agent. So that adds to the humanity of it all. The app just makes it sound so cold and about statistics.
Adri, not every agency work the same way! The child is (or at least should be) the priority! They show the family profile to the child or/and birth family, so many times the choice it's not the adoptive parent's! If you are going to adopt from the foster system, the agency will do their best to match a child to your family accordantly with the info on your home study, what you have discussed with your social worker, and mostly important accordantly to that chid's needs. ps: I'm an adoptive momma in the making. ❤
I got adopted by dad. And now I am Antoinette Renee Droste.💜
It's a digital record of the children available for adoption.
I see where they are all coming from, and forgive me for saying this, but I respect Tameras opinion more than Jeanies on this subject. Jeannie can say all the politically correct stuff she wants, but at the end of the day, she doesn't even want children at all, let alone adopt one in need. Tameras the one who wants to adopt. And so, it just seems weird for Jeannie to criticize something that is helping more kids get adopted when she won't even consider that herself.
An app IMO is way better than physically going into an agency, interviewing the children, rejecting others and picking your fav! With an app the children don't have to feel/see the rejection.
It's interesting how much more care and concern there is in regards to becoming a parent when people are adopting. It gets heated and serious pretty fast, but none of these concerns would arise if a family said that they were trying to get pregnant. And this isn't just them, but society. It's like people trying to adopt should pass a test while people who can get pregnant have no test or strict criteria to meet whatsoever. Any thoughts? Ultimately the end result is the same, right?
If it helps more children get adopted (safely), and maybe it will help lower cost. Obviously none of it should be at the risk of endangering the child.
If they knew how the foster care system worked, or about other children who are waiting to be adopted that are often overlooked maybe they'd really grasp it more. It's not just about making it easier on the person wanting to adopt but instead making it easier to connect families from across your country or the world.
It definitely will have to be tested but for the idea isn't a bad one.
I don't know if I want to see Pt. 2 this chat is a complete mess............*clicks anyway*
swaggpro17 lol
anyone else watching old clips because they are on hiatus for the summer?? I thought this was a bad idea but after hearing Adrienne explain it thoroughly I think its a good idea. I knew someone who was interested in adoption its EXTREMELY expensive why? because the money goes to the agency. For people who can't have children it can be extremely hard as well but there are so many children in foster care that also need a home. ( This is why people adopt children from other countries to be honest)
Ok look, I don't like the idea of swiping because, like Jeannie said, the design comes from tinder which never sat well with me from the start. BUT is it really THAT bad? Do people not choose the child they want to adopt in person? And why did Jeannie gasp when Adrienne said you can choose the ethnicity, age and gender? Like those are important factors for families who want to adopt. Idk, overall, the design of the app is weird to me but I can see what they're trying to do here.
am i not the only one who feel like tamera getting on the nerves cause she sure as hell was getting on my nerves here
Nelly Boo i agree
Nelly Boo and Jeannie too.
Nelly Boo yeh to me both of them always come off as perfectionists who empower women or wateva ...i just skip them esp jeanie ..always been my least favourite one😒
I am a foster mom.. it is the way it is.. there is a catalog that kids placed in foster homes and have not been adopted they go in a book of adoptions.. people can look at pics and read about different children.. and pick what child you want to adopt. I will just say.. the descriptions are what they want you to know and hear.. not saying none of it true.. but a lot is fabricated to make child seem better... etc... It is the GOVERNMENT.