Thanks for working to provide us with quality products geared to our fishery, as well as the blueprints on how to use them effectively! You crush the learning curve to our benefit. Aside from the price point, where the Dark Matter Skinner is a relative BARGAIN, are there any other subtle real world differences between the Lamiglas GSB Skinner, and the new Dark Matter Skinner rod that we can't ascertain from the spec's alone?
The rod came out just as I was looking for a 9 footer. I picked one up, had a chance to use it in pretty rough conditions tonight. Picked up a decentc schoolie, (might have been a slot fish, didn't measure) and a smaller one on a SS little neck popper. Switched to an SP when the sun went down, caught some nice schoolies. Maybe 10 or so fish in total. This was a fun rod to fish. The schoolies coupled with the rough surf put up a good fight. I was using a Slammer III 5500 because that's what I had on hand, I intend to use it with a Gosa 6000 SWA when it's available. I'm liking the rod so far.
Anyone having issues with SaltX 6000 reels locking up on them? Seems like when I’m fishing in the surf and get hit by a wave sand is getting into some gears.
It may just be getting in where the handle meets the sideplate or its getting in the rotor or somewhere. I had that issue once with my tsunami shield. Hope that helps.
Yes I am. Sand always gets in and I have to take it apart to get it out but I still have sand stuck in mine that i need to hit with pressurized air to get out. I have had the reel lock up on me several times after getting splashed by a wave and sand getting in gears
John would love to get your honest opinion on the saltx when it gets hit by a wave and is introduced into some sand and salt. It has been nothing but trouble for me, locking up, sand or something inside some components causing a coffee grinder feel, and terrible squeaking sound emitting from the housing.
Regardless of my experience, I think you have your answer. It's not working for you in the conditions you're fishing. Any idea how a Van Staal stands up to those conditions? I know with a VS or Penn 706 I just grind through it.
I love your rod - my daughter and md nieces nephews I let them play in the new truck... I didn’t get a rack for the rods/Kyla CL yet... so I stuck it in the middle window wrapped in a towel - and the some how put a bad dink in it - I bought it again , thanks to team J&H , I got a brand new one , John what reel would you recommend or size as far as bale less for your rod ...? I did catch a lot of fish on it - this season I pray I do the same 🙏 awesome, thank you !!
Bought one in hopes of it getting here in time for my Vacation to Montauk this saturday. Ordered it on the 2nd. Still hasn't left the facility after j&h shipped it. Bummed out that I can't pair it with my Salt X. Looks like my 8 foot st croix tidemaster and 4500 slammer will have to hold it down
John I wonder if you know which rod I should choose for Lake trout jigging. I'm using 20 lb jbraid and 12 to 15lb leader, 1.5-2 oz tube jigs. These fish range 10-20 lbs. I need decent power through the tip for a quick hook set. The reason I ask you is because I'm thinking about the DMIC 70 MHF.
Hey John absolutely love your videos. So informative. Kind of a stupid question for you but with the storm brewing out at sea now I was told fishing is gonna be horrible until the weekend. Do you think that is so? If yes, how does the storm affect fishing? What does it do to the fish?
It can be a good or bad thing depending on where you're fishing. Sometimes huge waves and high water dirties everything up. Sometimes the winds blow fish in.
How do you compare your rod to the trophy 2 surf rod? I know this is your own rod but I seen you suggested the trophy 2 surf rod. I'm just starting to use surf rods and dont want to break the bank yet. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
Hi John, love your videos and I learned a lot from you. What Is for you the best time of day to fish.And do you think It is really matter moon, tides etc. thanks
I fish all my life from boat and just started fishing from beach this year couse of corona and more free time. But I guess it is much better bite during night then day? I understand dusk and dawn is the best.
John I’m a fellow long islander and have been struggling with the surf fishing scene do you have any tips for a beginner and if so can you make a video on it
seems like an amazing rod, have you used the penn prevail its in the low price range was thinking to pick up something durable without breaking the bank
Stan Hentchel of Rocky Point Fishing Stop, a superb rodbuilder, taught me that layout years ago. It just works. It's what I used on my original 9' 2'' that I cut from the 10-ft Lami blank. I tried some other layouts and could just never improve on it.
Along this line, when my bucktail gets hung up off Fire Island bay-side using 20# braid (Palomar knot) w/ a barrel swivel to 20# fluoro leader (uni knot), the fluoro leader is what breaks over half of the time; I get the swivel back.
Thats so awesome ive been fishing at the bluff in kings park snaged a few decent sized stripers. Love the channel happy to support a fellow new yorker ..
Great vid as always. Been watching your videos for a long time now and I an looking to get into surfcasting. What do you think about the Penn Battle 3 DX for surfcasting?
Definitely a variety of plugs. It's also nice with the 6-inch SaltPros and similar swimmers. Very good on the Super Strike Bottles, Darters, and Needles. A good bucktail stick too.
It's a touch smaller than I'd like, but I know people who use 4000 series reels on similar 9-footers and are happy. If I recall, the VR50 is similar in size to a 4000 Penn.
John- could you give an estimate on the distance of an average cast? I hear guys say they cast over 100 yards. I’m sure I could improve my cast, but my average cast is probably more like 60-70 yards.
Do you ever still fish smaller water? Back bay type stuff? I’ve been trying very hard the past few weeks and it’s been slow. I’m not experienced in striper fishing from shore, so I feel like I’m just wasting valuable fishing time.
John Skinner Fishing good for you winter here is brutal! Any tips on how far to cast I have a 9 foot rod using 50 pound braid can’t seem to launch the lure that far
I had to go with this rod instead . www.jandh.com/products/dark-matter-surf-spinning-rods.html Your rod was sold out, but this too had the 70/30 split which got me to get this then a 1pc Lamiglas rod. Hopefully this 10ft rod will do with my VR 150.
That first release was picture perfect 😂
Talk about a beautiful day. Flat calm,sunset slobs on the north shore. Atta boy!
The sun has the sky on fire. The bass just sliding down the North Shore is awesome.....Fish on
Just bought your striper course a few minutes ago!!
Need to catch my first striper ASAP
Legend has it that in 2008 John Skinner caught every fish in the Long Island Sound...
TWICE
lmao its true lol
2008?
@@tolpacourt and 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 ...
Nice fish and nice rod Mr Skinner!
I love this rod i paird it up with my penn slammer 4500 it casts a mile🔥🎣
John, I'm addicted to your videos and they've helped a ton! Gonna buy a course or two soon for some winter studying
Wish we had that action in NJ
He's fishing north shore those fish should be by us in a few weeks
Mr. Meme I’m hoping too hot to hunt
That was probably before this NE blow. It will be awhile before we can get those fish.
Thanks John , your videos are the best 👍
tough fishing in those crowds and heavy surf😉😁
U r literally the greatest fisherman of all time
What a great video. The rod looks perfect!
Thanks for working to provide us with quality products geared to our fishery, as well as the blueprints on how to use them effectively! You crush the learning curve to our benefit. Aside from the price point, where the Dark Matter Skinner is a relative BARGAIN, are there any other subtle real world differences between the Lamiglas GSB Skinner, and the new Dark Matter Skinner rod that we can't ascertain from the spec's alone?
The Dark Matter is a little better suited for lures in the 2.5-3-ounce range, but it's still good down to 3/4-ounce.
Amazing video great fish
Man dudes a legend I live right by were he fishes I only have luck in the ocean anytime I fish sound I just get snappers or skunked
The rod came out just as I was looking for a 9 footer. I picked one up, had a chance to use it in pretty rough conditions tonight. Picked up a decentc schoolie, (might have been a slot fish, didn't measure) and a smaller one on a SS little neck popper. Switched to an SP when the sun went down, caught some nice schoolies. Maybe 10 or so fish in total. This was a fun rod to fish. The schoolies coupled with the rough surf put up a good fight. I was using a Slammer III 5500 because that's what I had on hand, I intend to use it with a Gosa 6000 SWA when it's available. I'm liking the rod so far.
I really appreciate that feedback! Great first trip on the new rod.
When you fish for these bass do you walk down the beach and look for them or do you stay in one spot that you like
Anyone having issues with SaltX 6000 reels locking up on them? Seems like when I’m fishing in the surf and get hit by a wave sand is getting into some gears.
It may just be getting in where the handle meets the sideplate or its getting in the rotor or somewhere. I had that issue once with my tsunami shield. Hope that helps.
Yes I am. Sand always gets in and I have to take it apart to get it out but I still have sand stuck in mine that i need to hit with pressurized air to get out. I have had the reel lock up on me several times after getting splashed by a wave and sand getting in gears
not yet for me, but lost the coil spring for the clicker on my 3rd outing
Jay Chen what was the repair/replacement process for you?
@@huanc7996 me too!!!!!
John would love to get your honest opinion on the saltx when it gets hit by a wave and is introduced into some sand and salt. It has been nothing but trouble for me, locking up, sand or something inside some components causing a coffee grinder feel, and terrible squeaking sound emitting from the housing.
Regardless of my experience, I think you have your answer. It's not working for you in the conditions you're fishing. Any idea how a Van Staal stands up to those conditions? I know with a VS or Penn 706 I just grind through it.
John Skinner Fishing I appreciate the reply. I bought it at J&H maybe Josh will work with me and let me trade it in and upgrade to a VS.
John, I love your videos. Could you please measure the Stripers you catch so we have an idea how big they are? Thanks
I’m not really a fan of 2 pice rods but I’d sure like to demo it to give it a try. It Looks pretty good.
I used to say the same thing until I started fishing some of the 70/30 split rods.
@@johnnyem-grafix4024 comes with a case ? Mine didn't come with a case lol
Before one of this trips are you looking for the fish to be there because of a certain tide? Or more so a particular rock they sit on?
Great video 📹 !!!
I love your rod - my daughter and md nieces nephews I let them play in the new truck... I didn’t get a rack for the rods/Kyla CL yet... so I stuck it in the middle window wrapped in a towel - and the some how put a bad dink in it - I bought it again , thanks to team J&H , I got a brand new one , John what reel would you recommend or size as far as bale less for your rod ...? I did catch a lot of fish on it - this season I pray I do the same 🙏 awesome, thank you !!
For a bailess reel I'd go with the saltX 6000, which is what I use. I spool with 30#.
John have tackle world in Rochelle park right by me, what is a comparable rod that I can see there
Awesome 🎣
Bought one in hopes of it getting here in time for my Vacation to Montauk this saturday. Ordered it on the 2nd. Still hasn't left the facility after j&h shipped it. Bummed out that I can't pair it with my Salt X. Looks like my 8 foot st croix tidemaster and 4500 slammer will have to hold it down
I would do anything to win a chance to fish with him!
When you're jerking the rod back and forth are you also reeling or just letting the lure stay stationary while jerking?
moderate retrieve.
What time do you go out to fish top water?
Usually dusk and dawn.
John Skinner Fishing thank you
Do you not pinch the line anymore when working topwaters back to keep tension on the reel?
I do not. I'm not sure what part of the gear has changed, but I'm not having issues.
John I wonder if you know which rod I should choose for Lake trout jigging. I'm using 20 lb jbraid and 12 to 15lb leader, 1.5-2 oz tube jigs. These fish range 10-20 lbs. I need decent power through the tip for a quick hook set.
The reason I ask you is because I'm thinking about the DMIC 70 MHF.
Nice video as always. Have a question for you Mr. Skinner. I was wondering if you do any charter trips?
Sorry, I'm not a guide.
That’s ok thank you...
Can you apply this to boat fishing also?
John have you been fishing this past week with the weather? I dont know whether to go north or south.
Not in these relentless Northerlies.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Just got back from the inlet out east rough surf but the blues were blitzing crazy.
@@24gamogun Awesome! Maybe some bass after dark?
Hey John absolutely love your videos. So informative. Kind of a stupid question for you but with the storm brewing out at sea now I was told fishing is gonna be horrible until the weekend. Do you think that is so? If yes, how does the storm affect fishing? What does it do to the fish?
It can be a good or bad thing depending on where you're fishing. Sometimes huge waves and high water dirties everything up. Sometimes the winds blow fish in.
How do you compare your rod to the trophy 2 surf rod? I know this is your own rod but I seen you suggested the trophy 2 surf rod. I'm just starting to use surf rods and dont want to break the bank yet. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
Hi John,
Are you using the 8’ or 9’02 skinner rod?
9-2
Hi John, love your videos and I learned a lot from you. What Is for you the best time of day to fish.And do you think It is really matter moon, tides etc. thanks
Thanks for reply Don!
I fish all my life from boat and just started fishing from beach this year couse of corona and more free time. But I guess it is much better bite during night then day? I understand dusk and dawn is the best.
Where is this
LI, NY
John I’m a fellow long islander and have been struggling with the surf fishing scene do you have any tips for a beginner and if so can you make a video on it
Get up and leave your house well before dawn. Find moving water or an outgoing tide.
John has a few very good books that will help you. You can Google them.
How did you convert to bail less??
Did you just toke the bail out?
The SaltX reels thankfully come with a manual conversion kit and instructions.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing thank you.
seems like an amazing rod, have you used the penn prevail its in the low price range was thinking to pick up something durable without breaking the bank
I haven't used the Prevail. I'd look at least at the Battle 3, although the spinfisher would be the better Penn moderate-cost option.
JOHN IS THE 👨
Whats the length of the rod you're using in this video?
9' 2''
Do the 2.6oz pencils float or sink?
Very slow sink.
Great stuff john is JH stocking rod and plug in store or on line only thanks
Yes. He has plenty of plugs, although the rod is close to selling out.
Ok thanks ...
Great that come weighted out of box my girlfriend though something wrong with me when She sees pancake syrup in a syringe! Thanks again
Nice fish nice rod.
Why only 4 guides ?
just curious
Stan Hentchel of Rocky Point Fishing Stop, a superb rodbuilder, taught me that layout years ago. It just works. It's what I used on my original 9' 2'' that I cut from the 10-ft Lami blank. I tried some other layouts and could just never improve on it.
Say hi to him for me when you see him. I learned a lot from him as a teenager.
What are your thoughts on using 20lb line with the potential for serious sized fish?
It's absolutely fine. The only reason I use 30# is for extra protection around rocks. Most lines labeled 20 actually break much higher.
Along this line, when my bucktail gets hung up off Fire Island bay-side using 20# braid (Palomar knot) w/ a barrel swivel to 20# fluoro leader (uni knot), the fluoro leader is what breaks over half of the time; I get the swivel back.
How much do those plugs weigh ?
2.6 ounces.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing thank you
Are u fishing long island?
Yes.
Thats so awesome ive been fishing at the bluff in kings park snaged a few decent sized stripers. Love the channel happy to support a fellow new yorker ..
Is this the South shore or north shore?
Its got to be north shore rocky area dead give away
I have a question mr john, I bought a penn 8,000 reel, is that to big for my 10 feet rod and fishing stripers?
It's a little big/heavy, but doable.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing so should I keep it, or change it, for something smaller, what size do you recommend, I am new to striper fishing.
@@ulricjohnson5785 Exchange it if your rod will be less than 11 feet. I find a 6000 size to do well on 9-11 feet.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Thanks 😎
Great vid as always. Been watching your videos for a long time now and I an looking to get into surfcasting. What do you think about the Penn Battle 3 DX for surfcasting?
It's a great value. Here's a video with it. ua-cam.com/video/4Yn6VQ_9Jwg/v-deo.html
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Thank you!
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Anybody have problems with the line spooling to one side as well excessive knots on the Tsunami Salt X reel
@@Alan-zn5jr Not even a little bit, and I own 3 of them. Most reels these days come with little spacers to adjust the line lay.
Was the rod designed to throw pencils exclusively or can it be used to throw a variety of plugs ?
Definitely a variety of plugs. It's also nice with the 6-inch SaltPros and similar swimmers. Very good on the Super Strike Bottles, Darters, and Needles. A good bucktail stick too.
Hey John! Do you think a Van Staal VR50 would pair well with this rod?
Vr50 is a little small on this rod
It's a touch smaller than I'd like, but I know people who use 4000 series reels on similar 9-footers and are happy. If I recall, the VR50 is similar in size to a 4000 Penn.
michael foley that’s what I was thinking! I have it on a lamiglas GSB 8’ one piece now. Looking for a two piece & stay light as possible
John Skinner Fishing thank you!!!
I see a comment below where someone loves a 4500 on this.
John- could you give an estimate on the distance of an average cast? I hear guys say they cast over 100 yards. I’m sure I could improve my cast, but my average cast is probably more like 60-70 yards.
With a plug? About 250-280 feet I think.
Ok thanks
8 minute gear commercial. I’m happy for you Mr. Skinner.
I rather think of it as a gear review.
Dude, im in OC trying to figure out the top water situation right now. This hurricane off the coast has messed up visability so bad.
It's hard to deal with that issue. You may need to fish some other waters until the storm waves go through.
hey John if you don't mind me asking why is it a concern that there is big bass allredy??
Water temps too warm hard to revive fish
When it’s colder the big ones swim off faster
yea i guess that makes sense..
Do you ever still fish smaller water? Back bay type stuff? I’ve been trying very hard the past few weeks and it’s been slow. I’m not experienced in striper fishing from shore, so I feel like I’m just wasting valuable fishing time.
The bays start getting good now, especially near the inlets.
John you still on LI?
Until mid-November, then back to Florida for the winter, then back here in May.
John Skinner Fishing good for you winter here is brutal! Any tips on how far to cast I have a 9 foot rod using 50 pound braid can’t seem to launch the lure that far
@@James7796ify You probably don't need 50#. I fish 30. That will help a lot.
did you forget your waders? Are those sneakers?
New Balance
No bones or albies yet John?
No. And I chatted with the Bay Constable yesterday and he sees everything and he said the same thing.
@@JohnSkinnerFishing well that sucks. Going back to FL soon or you toughin it out up here?
@@tonynicoletti8161 Will go to Florida for the winter as soon as the fishing dies here.
I had to go with this rod instead .
www.jandh.com/products/dark-matter-surf-spinning-rods.html
Your rod was sold out, but this too had the 70/30 split which got me to get this then a 1pc Lamiglas rod. Hopefully this 10ft rod will do with my VR 150.