Thank you guys so much for all the happy birthdays. This might sound like... maybe sad or something? I don't really know how to put it. But all of your comments, constructive or just positive make me so damn happy. I'm really glad I'm able to make content that helps so many people, and you guys don't know how much all the support really means to me. I appreciate all of you for letting me know you enjoy the video past just liking and moving on. Reading my comment section is so unlike most comment sections, I just see a bunch of positivity and support. When people do have input or feedback, it seems they generally put it in a constructive way too. All of this means the world to me. Thank you all so much, you motivate me to keep getting better and better as a content creator and put more time into each project. That's it. I love you all.
Appreciate this video! I'm running Penetrating Shot + Traps with Trap Key. Has been very well balanced, I basically play like a melee but happen to have PS with Inner Sight. Shotgun blast spam everything in the traps, get hp back and it's been super smooth so far. On T45 about level 86 currently.
Happy birthday man, Druid main here but I started a rouge yesterday. Made it to 32 with your twisted blades build and it’s extremely fun. I was hoping to make a pen shot but man TB is just smooth.
Happy birthday Valued! First. Ive already tried your every build ( including items + aspects ) I think every build is almost perfect except penshot. Penshot has less survive between those + its really not okay for single target. But like u said its so fun to play. Besides that i havent try RF but def. i will try it next season. For me Barrage is our best option with good gear. I made some changes with aspects and some of the stats in our gear and it feels awesome. ( %90 your build+gear+aspects %10 my personal ) But i have to say this if anyone wants to try barrage build. For packs of mobs ( little spiders/flies/full group of mobs ) Barrages ricochet is a problem. U have to manage your cooldowns and u have to finish the mobs with shadow imbuement . Otherwise you will spend so much time with them. Its not like penshot that u can literally just explode them. But with sustain + little management of cooldowns barrage is the best option. So the only thing we have to get max shadow imbue + cooldown management and a lil bit positioning i think this is the final build for me. Appreciate that for the videos and effort. And wish you a great day.
Thank you tnelist!!! I really appreciate it. I agree with your notes about Pen shot, that's why I put it as the lowest build for pushing content. I think it just gets 1 shot before it can get rolling. RF is the best for pushing IMO. I really appreciate your input. I'm sadly going to probably swap TB for lilith kill, and then I will come back to Rapid Fire
@@Valuedx im waiting a TB build video!! you put so much time and effort and i respect that a lot tbh. Everythings so clear. Keep up the good work brother!
Happy Birthday! I 100% agree with your opinions about each individual core skill. I was expecting a ranking of every possibility you've played so far tho' I did some soft and hard respec so many times!!! Now I'm back to Rain of Arrows but with combo points Rapid Fire. Puncture. Poison and Shadow. Precision passive. But I even tested melee basics, and other passives, including melee oriented ones. I'll probably go back to Victimize for the most balanced ranged rogue ever.
First of all happy birthday! Great video as always, can't say I disagree with your list. Think my favourite is definitely the pen shot build atm. Hoping to see a pure rapid fire build aswell or did i miss that one?? Your doing an awesome job with your videos. They are easy to watch, you get to the point and somehow keep them short and packed with usefull information. They have become a daily watch for me. Can't wait for the discord it's always nice to have a place to have a chat and find usefull information. Keep it up and if you do get some bad comments and hater it's all part of the game just can't let them get to you.
Hey grumpy!! Nice to see you again :) No you didn't miss one, I made an RF build a long while ago, but it's due for an updating. That build is really good as well, I'm working on that guide for tomorrow. Thank you so much for all the kind words on all the videos grumpy, you're very kind. I need to just get all the bots set up and the discord is good to go :)
Thorough and explained your opinions. Thx. Extra thought: I run impale/rapid fire/combo points with both poison(elite/boss) and shadow (AOE). Swapping embuement while the other is on cool down is a staggering amount of DPS.
No problem russel! I'm currently also playing Rapid Fire, and from my further testing I do stand behind what I said in this video: I think Rapid Fire (for most content) is the best and will be releasing my updated end game guide on it soon.
Happy birthday! Hope you have a great one. I always enjoyed your content. I really like your pen + rapid fire build but I can’t wait for the rain of arrow and rapid fire build. Looks so much fun to play with!
First of all Happy Birthday! Its about time to drop a huge thank you. Im following your rouge content now for a while and get a ton of Inspiration when it comes to optimize my rouge. I cant stress it enough: your build Videos arent just amazing... Somehow you manage to keep things short but still awsomely (is that even a wird?xD sry not a native speaker) informativ. Every buff/nerf you dropped an alternative build. Absolutely great content! 10 Out of 10. And btw: good luck with lady lilith❤
Hahaha thank you for the comment david! I'm glad you're enjoying the builds so far, I really appreciate the kind words. Made me smile :) Also "awesomely" is not a traditional word, but you can totally use it here. After all it's awesomely, who doesn't want to recognize that as an English word? XD
Happy Birthday Mate!, I run the Rapid fire build but I use the ricochet Aspect giving it pretty great AOE to clear mobs and still having the ability to melt bosses
Happy Birthday Valued! Thank you for your hard work on making these builds for us! Considering how costly and how much effort it is to reset a paragon board and respec, getting the right stats + aspects, it requires tremendous effort, plus the theory crafting in the first place. Looking forward to see more content of yours!
Thank you so much addalyn! I don't really care about the numbers, I just love seeing that I'm helping people and providing some builds to players of all varieties. D4 is hard, and build guides really help some people love the game more than they would alone.
Happy birthday! This was a great layout in choosing a playstyle. Respecs are absurdly expensive when experimenting, and is good to hear others' opinions. Cheers! 🍻
@@Valuedx Yeah for sure you’re welcome. I’m one tricking rogue until we get a paladin or death knight (whatever Blizzard chooses to do) so I like to see how other people build/play theirs I’m currently lv 75 t4 been running nm 35+ dung’s running a pure cold ranger build I made back before beta and it’s been working flawlessly, but as I mentioned before I like see other things for rogue that are valuable come mid-late game. Keep up the good work. I was running pen shot + rapid fire with no ult for a while, it’s actually really nice being able to clear mobs and high prio targets aka bosses efficiently by using them both
First of all, happy birthday man, keep the good work and awesome video again!! As soon as you release a video, I am already expecting the next one :) One question, how can I calculate how much DPS I am doing from my build (similar from you last video - pen shot + rapid fire), with all those numbers showing up at once? Is there an easy way?
Happy Belated birthday! I've been struggling to find a balance between pen and rapid fire with double imbue. I feel like you can get two: AOE, Boss/Elite, or survivability. I usually run with my buddies who are already 100 or close to 100 while I'm at 73 in their nightmare dungeons. I've enjoyed your breakdown and I still feel conflicted, but at least I know I'm not the only one trying to find that golden balance.
Valued! Have you ever tried the triple imbuement rapid fire + rain of arrows with the Hakan unique? Shreds elite and have a perfect AoE cleaning, also you can use the rain of arrows to reset the imbuements for your rapid fire. You could poison rapid fire, rain of arrow, poison rapid fire again for melting bosses even faster!!
I've been considering this route since finding the amulet. Currently running close to it but only double imbuement with poison trap and concealment. But dropping trap for the third imbuement is verrrrry tempting
Do you have a d4 planner link or a vid you could show me im interested in switching from pen shot to this pen just lacks dammage at high end unfortunately
@@itsgiyu412 I don't, and to be honest, I'm thinking of u-turning completely. While the Hakan amulet is a good incentive to use Rain Of Arrows, it feels like at a high enough level the Rogue ultimates aren't good enough consistently to justify ther investment. I think I'm aiming towards a variant of the Rapid Fire build in Valued's latest vid. Combo points and Edgemasters aspect just push the ceiling of the build so much higher too. What I've found though is that as long as you are committed to a bow build the refund costs for skill trees etc aren't too bad for Rogue yet. So I'm still expereimenting a fair bit
Pretty accurate representation of the different ranged core skills. Would love to see if it's even possible to clear t100 with any ranged option in the current state. From my own experience it's most likely only possible with rapid fire. So far the only t100 rogue clear is with a tb death trap combo, which has lots of CC added to it, like the dash daze aspect and daze on vul enemies.
@@Valuedx Would be nice to see since I've stopped trying. Got a bit bored of farming gold to hit those perfect rolls and affored high ipower weps in bids. Felt a bit pointless at some point cause there aren't ladders yet or anything rewarding beside the titel which 99% of player don't even know
@@jinshin85 that's decently high already, but i feel like barage caps out at some point since the nature of the skill kinda requiers a semi close ranged playstyle. Maybe it's doable with added CC, but at that point, why not just go tb
Woohoo Happy Bday bro!! I love watch your content on comparing each build, quite fair and objective.. hope you later also try the twisting blade build and let us know which one is best for the rogue build!
Yes! Cant hardly wait! rite now Im back to your penetrating build since I got the sacred unique bow from boss field.. it gave 10-20% chance double damage!
Happy b day. This is a fair assessment. Rapid fire, poison trap, dash, forceful arrow, and death trap. Super fun way to traverse the map. I pretty much level everything I come into contact with.
Very similar to my build but I don't use a basic skill. You should give it a try the glyph that restores 12% energy on crit and 15 energy on vulnerable makes RF basically free.
Happy Birthday. i know you are busy but do you have any ETA on that updated Rapid Fire guide. I play your RF+ PEN build now but i really wanna go back to pure RF i think. And i love your builds so wont switch back before i see what you done :D Hey even if you just have a D4 planner with paragon and aspects i could use that to ;) Anyway keep you the good work you make really good guides and videos.
Thank you a ton Zapa! Rapid Fire will be the next (and last until they release balance changes) build guide that I do on the channel. I'm currently progressing on the lilith fight with my Single target variation, so I haven't had time to test everything I want to with a more balanced build to make a video.
I'm level 56 pen shot shadow/poison, caltrops, shrouds and bad gearing but managing on teir 3, defo need to gear up and follow one of ur builds properly now I'm getting towards end only side quests and dungeons to complete Thanks for ur help
Yes! Rogue is just my first class, I like to cover all my bases before moving on. I'm going to be ramping up my playtime and content time so I will be expanding to all the classes before Season 1 :)
*Top 20 pvp player globally here* I did 1300ish pvp kills with twisting blades. Movement was cancer. Absolutely yawnfest. Sorcs press 2 buttons and I'm 100% frozen and 100% dead. Barrage changed my d4 life like an adderral before a test. It's gross. No buildup. I AHK cold + shadow inbuement, every 6 seconds one after the other, so I'm never out of inbuement damage. It's a rotating fuckfest of driveby damage. Speed farming is possible. Solo damage is literally the same as twisting blades as I've seen. I'm only lvl 87, and I'm breezing past lv60 nightmares somehow. Pvp is hilarious now. Absolute meme. Sorcs get dickslapped. Absolute W. Big W, big big big W to Wudijo and the team. He answers any of my questions I have, always has the best advice, and your content is great aswell. Barrage>>>
Feliz aniversário, mano! Eu tenho jogado com pen shot e tenho gostado muito, principalmente pelo fato dela não ser tão efetiva contra bosses......isso deixa certas batalhas mais divertidas! Mas eu no começo do jogo usei bastante rapid fire e provavelmente vou testar ela de novo agora que estou com uns lvls a mais. Ótimo vídeo, muito obrigado!
i really like rapid fire, its so fun to destroy single enemies, also the hitbox is relatively large, u can hit 2 mobs with it in 1 line, pen shot is fun but hard to execute, barrage is ok and more of a chill build, but rapid fire is my favourite
I loved the Pen shot build, i tried the barrage variant from lvl 55-73 and now im looking for new aspects and gear for the new variant of the pen shot build (the one with rain of arrows) Love the content cheers
How do you deal with "i have no imbu ready, im useless"? I run Barrage with Condamnation + combo and it just deletes every1, with Pene shot i feel like trash without imbu lol
Happy Birthday! I'm running 2 impudents (shadow and poison) with rapid fire, poison trap, shadow step, and death trap. I'm using Preparation with no basic skills, and for the most part it works pretty well. The biggest downside is lack of mobility while actually shooting
Could probably drop poison imbue for dash if you want some mobility. Your single target is already pretty nutty. Idk what level you are but at 80 things die before poison even makes an impact.
@dirtygerd9083 There's a way to get poison trap to cause vulnerability, and it helps alot with resource management since rapid fire can get energy back that way.
@@KasparL My skill set up is RF, dash, smoke grenade, poison trap, and deathtrap. I spec shadow imbue if I'm running open world and cold imbue for pushing nightmare. My death trap is at 54k right now so with vuln and other multipliers it clears packs pretty quick and rapid fire is great for lowering cds via preparation and exposure. 3 aspects core to my build are grenades are traps, grenades freeze, and drop grenades on evade.
Happy bday man mines is literally in like 2 hours lol😅 but if u can u should do a rouge melee tier rate too like this one but wit melee would be cool for sum melee users out here besides a twisting blade build but love the content tho
Wow we're almost birthday twins hahaha. Happy early birthday! Yeah, I need to play the melee builds more before I do an overall Rogue tier list. I want to make sure my opinions are based in my informed opinions :)
🎉Happy Birthday Dude !🎉 Thanks again for all your constructive contents ! It's help me a lot in my first diablo (yeah I know 😅) and I hope you'll going on like you always do. I have a True question, I drop a unique Bow and the legs too with great principal stats but I feel weak, do you advise me to change for smthg with an other aspect ?
jcs! Thank you so much for the comment first off :D really appreciate your kind words. So here's my breakdown on the Unique bows: they are cool, and Windforce specifically is really interesting - but sadly Crossbows just deal more damage overall in the end-end game. But, while youre leveling - you can absolutely use a unique bow, especially if it's a DPS increase. Also for the pants (I'm assuming you're talking about the Unique Pants "Teremity") you can use these if you are running the passive called "Siphoning Strikes", because it will consistently give you an overshield if you're attacking close mobs. I hope this helps, if you want any more clarification please let me know and I will respond in the morning when I wake up. :)
@@Valuedx it's excaltly the ones I have (sorry for the names, I was not sure of the English Trad cause I'm French). The passive of the Bow is not incredible but I got it when I passed world 4 so the diff between sacred and ancestral was huge ! I'll try to catch a good crossbow 😉 Thanks again for the answer 👍
I love your vids so I've subbed :) Question: I'm levelling with the Pen shot (completed campaign on another character) - at what point should I consider respeccing into Rapid Fire? Thanks again!
@@Valuedx Just lvl 32 so far, in WT2. I've never done the capstone yet to get to WT3, even on my main (necro). I was just excited that I could skip the campaign and start a new rogue, so that's where I'm at so far.
I'm loving Barrage, but I'm also a dad who doesn't have enough time to get good. Barrage is a ton of fun; I feel more like a Spartan with a shotgun than a Rogue with a bow. Oh, and Shadow Imbuement exploding everything on screen is hilarious.
Rogues in higher tier nightmares severely lack any form of def really. Expected to be melted by poison and random explosion death. A lot of the mob damage is straight up bullshit. Hope the devs raise def or nerf some of the mobs.
@@Valuedx Looking forward to the update! I've been running my own paragon board off your bowazon build and I think I'm far too deep into the exploit board LOL
Thanks for your opinion, helped me to recalibrate my thoughts about gearing from 80 to 100. I play pen-shot but will go on rapidfire for key-pushing...do you have a vid for an endgame bosskilling rapidfire build?
Love your builds, I'm running rapid/pen hybrid build and its just overall the best builds for me, great single target dps with psn imbue and then pen and shadow for AoE. With just one point invested into shadow I still have level 7 from items. Owning content at lvl 73 and nightmare dungeons around 25-30. What's your view on windforce? I want to make a windforce build ...as I found one with 19/20% chance to double dmg snd knockback!
The thing about bows is this: they’re nice for leveling because you attack faster, but crossbows will be your best move in the end end game if you’re looking to maximize damage. But it’s not unplayable by any means :)
@@Valuedx thanks for your input, greatly appreciated and I hear ya. Just a shame windforce isn't quite the same as the D2 version. I'll still try and theory craft a build and let you know if it's any good 👍 Looking forward to future content. Subscribed and locked in 👌
Currently running rapid fire with repeating aspect 90% chance to ricochet and it feels godly. Gear is mostly core skill + vuln dmg + crit dmg + attack speed affixes. I leveled with barrage, but i feel this rapid fire build has even better aoe imho. Currently doing nightmatr dungeons in the mid 30's range at around level 65
This, I got a Repeating aspect drop at like level 30 and used it all the way til 50. Was sad to switch to pen shot even though the screen clear in one click is fun I miss my 90% ricochet rapid fire. I've been sitting on the aspect waiting for at least a 725+ crossbow with decent rolls to switch back, mostly because I've yet to get a second drop of it while I'm drowning in Trickshot aspects
Happy birthday valued great content do you think the penshot build with rapid was worth losing the trap it resets cool down gives you knock down and crit chance when activated
Honestly, you don't HAVE to take Rapid Fire. That skill is more for players who are finding bosses exceedingly hard (likely because they don't have the necessary stat lines). I personally like Pen Shot with or without Rapid Fire! For the replacement, Poison Trap is my favorite option for the crit chance from Trap Mastery & the added CC/damage reduction utility.
i love your videos,, please do one also in twisting blades and flurry :D , i think the best of them all compared as you mention is the twisting blades poison one
I like the ‘rapid-pen’ variant but I use poison trap just to play a poison ivy theme. About to try using shadow clone with it. Friend of mine said it’s wrecked for her at level 77.
barrage dps should be the same as rapid fire in close range, or maybe better. i find that rapid fire shot slower and can not move while shotting, while barrage shot faster with its shadow that will shot other arrows for you and you can move right after you shot ,and free vulner debuff that you dont need to depend on exploit glyphs or trap lucky hit aspect like rapid fire.
I have to know do you listen to classic music while playing haha. I've been leveling one of each class to around 60-70 so far rogue is the only one I'm considering doing twice. Pen shot is incredibly fun as was tb, I want to collect some of the other aspects to try other builds as well! Thanks for this video!
Hahaha I appreciate classical music, I know it's not for everybody but gotta stay true! Lol. You are very welcome leben, I'm glad you're enjoying the build guides & they're helping you out! :)
I have been noticing a lot of rogues moving toward bow builds lately. It’s nice that there are options, but respecing and gearing is just a bit too much for me lol
Penshot won't clear a room without trickshot so, I assume that's included in your evaluation. for this reason, IMO, you should also include aspect of repeating for rapid fire. It's ranked 1 in boss damage, but could it be better than barrage with aspect of repeating aspect?
For a pure ranged Rogue, rapid fire is choice. Barrage is for hybrids, and precision, ricochet barrage is simply the strongest ranged core skill. The only problem with it, is its so energy hungry. Of course, this shouldn't be a problem in the end, endgame; but thats true of every class and build. Pro tip: If you're building a Cold Sorc, then build a Cold Rogue. They can feed each other gear. Shadow is stronger, but you're on yer own. 👍
Yeah Rapid Fire is an amazing skill. I personally think it's the best at level 100. But up until 100, Pen Shot is my absolute favorite. Not because it's better, but it's so satisfying.
Thank you guys so much for all the happy birthdays. This might sound like... maybe sad or something? I don't really know how to put it. But all of your comments, constructive or just positive make me so damn happy. I'm really glad I'm able to make content that helps so many people, and you guys don't know how much all the support really means to me.
I appreciate all of you for letting me know you enjoy the video past just liking and moving on. Reading my comment section is so unlike most comment sections, I just see a bunch of positivity and support. When people do have input or feedback, it seems they generally put it in a constructive way too. All of this means the world to me. Thank you all so much, you motivate me to keep getting better and better as a content creator and put more time into each project.
That's it. I love you all.
Sir can u drop ur discord so I can Join❤
Appreciate this video! I'm running Penetrating Shot + Traps with Trap Key. Has been very well balanced, I basically play like a melee but happen to have PS with Inner Sight. Shotgun blast spam everything in the traps, get hp back and it's been super smooth so far. On T45 about level 86 currently.
Do penetrating shot builds usually use inner sight over the massive oneshot potential of combo points?
Nah they use combo points.
Happy birthday man, Druid main here but I started a rouge yesterday. Made it to 32 with your twisted blades build and it’s extremely fun. I was hoping to make a pen shot but man TB is just smooth.
Thank you Malik! I’m glad you’re enjoying so far :)
@@Valuedx keep up the good work def got a sub
Happy Birthday boss, thank you for your hard work, Torment got a lot more fun when I stopped tickling elites
Of course budding! I've been having so much fun on UA-cam, loving the community that's joined around this channel :)
Happy birthday Valued! First. Ive already tried your every build ( including items + aspects ) I think every build is almost perfect except penshot. Penshot has less survive between those + its really not okay for single target. But like u said its so fun to play. Besides that i havent try RF but def. i will try it next season. For me Barrage is our best option with good gear. I made some changes with aspects and some of the stats in our gear and it feels awesome. ( %90 your build+gear+aspects %10 my personal ) But i have to say this if anyone wants to try barrage build. For packs of mobs ( little spiders/flies/full group of mobs ) Barrages ricochet is a problem. U have to manage your cooldowns and u have to finish the mobs with shadow imbuement . Otherwise you will spend so much time with them. Its not like penshot that u can literally just explode them. But with sustain + little management of cooldowns barrage is the best option. So the only thing we have to get max shadow imbue + cooldown management and a lil bit positioning i think this is the final build for me. Appreciate that for the videos and effort. And wish you a great day.
Thank you tnelist!!! I really appreciate it.
I agree with your notes about Pen shot, that's why I put it as the lowest build for pushing content. I think it just gets 1 shot before it can get rolling. RF is the best for pushing IMO.
I really appreciate your input. I'm sadly going to probably swap TB for lilith kill, and then I will come back to Rapid Fire
@@Valuedx im waiting a TB build video!! you put so much time and effort and i respect that a lot tbh. Everythings so clear. Keep up the good work brother!
Always bringing to content, Can't keep up with the build iterations haha. Much respect. Happy Birthday
Hahaha. I'm glad you're enjoyin Tizoh, hopefully this video helps clarify some things about the ranged builds.
Happy Birthday! I 100% agree with your opinions about each individual core skill. I was expecting a ranking of every possibility you've played so far tho'
I did some soft and hard respec so many times!!! Now I'm back to Rain of Arrows but with combo points Rapid Fire. Puncture. Poison and Shadow. Precision passive.
But I even tested melee basics, and other passives, including melee oriented ones. I'll probably go back to Victimize for the most balanced ranged rogue ever.
First of all happy birthday!
Great video as always, can't say I disagree with your list. Think my favourite is definitely the pen shot build atm. Hoping to see a pure rapid fire build aswell or did i miss that one??
Your doing an awesome job with your videos. They are easy to watch, you get to the point and somehow keep them short and packed with usefull information. They have become a daily watch for me.
Can't wait for the discord it's always nice to have a place to have a chat and find usefull information.
Keep it up and if you do get some bad comments and hater it's all part of the game just can't let them get to you.
Hey grumpy!! Nice to see you again :)
No you didn't miss one, I made an RF build a long while ago, but it's due for an updating. That build is really good as well, I'm working on that guide for tomorrow.
Thank you so much for all the kind words on all the videos grumpy, you're very kind. I need to just get all the bots set up and the discord is good to go :)
Thorough and explained your opinions. Thx. Extra thought: I run impale/rapid fire/combo points with both poison(elite/boss) and shadow (AOE). Swapping embuement while the other is on cool down is a staggering amount of DPS.
No problem russel! I'm currently also playing Rapid Fire, and from my further testing I do stand behind what I said in this video: I think Rapid Fire (for most content) is the best and will be releasing my updated end game guide on it soon.
I did follow your built to be honest. Only thing i followed was utilizing pen shot and rapid fire in one built…change my diablo 4 life. Thank you sir
You're welcome Johnny! I'm glad I could help you :)
Happy birthday! Hope you have a great one. I always enjoyed your content. I really like your pen + rapid fire build but I can’t wait for the rain of arrow and rapid fire build. Looks so much fun to play with!
I really appreciate it Dennis! Glad to see you again :)
What’s that build?
First of all Happy Birthday! Its about time to drop a huge thank you. Im following your rouge content now for a while and get a ton of Inspiration when it comes to optimize my rouge. I cant stress it enough: your build Videos arent just amazing... Somehow you manage to keep things short but still awsomely (is that even a wird?xD sry not a native speaker) informativ. Every buff/nerf you dropped an alternative build. Absolutely great content! 10 Out of 10. And btw: good luck with lady lilith❤
Hahaha thank you for the comment david! I'm glad you're enjoying the builds so far, I really appreciate the kind words. Made me smile :)
Also "awesomely" is not a traditional word, but you can totally use it here. After all it's awesomely, who doesn't want to recognize that as an English word? XD
@@Valuedx guess there's nothing more to ask for than a Smile as a present haha. Enjoy your day (:
@@davidhaber2125 Haha thank you david. I really appreciate it :)
Happy Birthday Mate!, I run the Rapid fire build but I use the ricochet Aspect giving it pretty great AOE to clear mobs and still having the ability to melt bosses
Been thinking of running rapid fire instead of penetrating shot, precisely because of what you just said...Is it fun to play?
Super fun!
Happy birthday! Always my fav Diablo videos. Lucky that I happen to main rogue lol. Congrats on your success
Haha thank you stereohead! Love the name btw, music is my jam. I really appreciate the comment :)
@@Valuedx Oh thanks. I forgot that was my tag on here actually lol. It's just me copying Radiohead but making it a little different. Great band.
Happy Birthday! I'm really loving barrage rogue, i hope all ranged skills get some love in season 1
Happy Birthday!
Love the work that you put in your content, as well as your constant interaction with your community.
Keep up the solid work!
Thank you so much tsean! :)
Happy Birthday Valued! Thank you for your hard work on making these builds for us! Considering how costly and how much effort it is to reset a paragon board and respec, getting the right stats + aspects, it requires tremendous effort, plus the theory crafting in the first place. Looking forward to see more content of yours!
Haha you aren't kidding! I play D4 an unholy amount but my gold wouldn't tell you that.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!! we love your Rogue videos
Thank you Bryant! :)
Love the caps, it means that YOU MEAN IT! hahaha
Absolutely love your content man! Keep it up! Your channel is gonna explode!
Thank you so much addalyn! I don't really care about the numbers, I just love seeing that I'm helping people and providing some builds to players of all varieties. D4 is hard, and build guides really help some people love the game more than they would alone.
Happy birthday!!!🎂Thank you for the informative guides!
Thank you airotal! :) No problem!!
Happy Birthday!!
Haha thank you!!
Happy Birthday!! Keep up the amazing work :)
Thank you so much moffo! Nice to see you again :)
Happy birthday bud, many many thanks for your builds
Appreciate it Sam, no problem!
I love this video man. the way you put things out is very cool and interesting keep going ❤️
Thank you Shady! I'm glad you've enjoyed :)
Happy Birthday! Thank you as always for the informative guides!
Thank you Nemo! :) Happy to see you again.
@@Valuedx I always love to see a new video from you; it's just some of the best Diablo 4 content I could ask for.
@@Nemo2342 I personally wouldn't go THAT far! But I'm really glad you're enjoying :)
happy bornday! we love u nd ur vids nd will always root for your success!!
Happy birthday! This was a great layout in choosing a playstyle. Respecs are absurdly expensive when experimenting, and is good to hear others' opinions. Cheers! 🍻
Happy birthday man, also thanks for the content and your drive and dedication. Thank you
I appreciate it myster! Thank you for all the kind words! Happy to see you back again :)
@@Valuedx Yeah for sure you’re welcome. I’m one tricking rogue until we get a paladin or death knight (whatever Blizzard chooses to do) so I like to see how other people build/play theirs I’m currently lv 75 t4 been running nm 35+ dung’s running a pure cold ranger build I made back before beta and it’s been working flawlessly, but as I mentioned before I like see other things for rogue that are valuable come mid-late game. Keep up the good work.
I was running pen shot + rapid fire with no ult for a while, it’s actually really nice being able to clear mobs and high prio targets aka bosses efficiently by using them both
Happy Birthday Sir! Your vids have been great for me.
Absolutely! Thank you for the hbd wishes :)
After trying Wudijo barrage build, I would say barrage is no.1
Same
Barrage build is the closest thing to demon hunter that we have lol
With death trap?
You have a link to this build?
First of all, happy birthday man, keep the good work and awesome video again!! As soon as you release a video, I am already expecting the next one :)
One question, how can I calculate how much DPS I am doing from my build (similar from you last video - pen shot + rapid fire), with all those numbers showing up at once? Is there an easy way?
Haha I wish! A damage counter would be so nice in this game to test builds. But it's something we haven't gotten in Diablo :/
Happy Birthday man! Hope you enjoyed it!
Thanks braan! I appreciate you :)
Happy Belated birthday!
I've been struggling to find a balance between pen and rapid fire with double imbue. I feel like you can get two: AOE, Boss/Elite, or survivability. I usually run with my buddies who are already 100 or close to 100 while I'm at 73 in their nightmare dungeons. I've enjoyed your breakdown and I still feel conflicted, but at least I know I'm not the only one trying to find that golden balance.
Happy B day bro. Good content. Love your works
Valued! Have you ever tried the triple imbuement rapid fire + rain of arrows with the Hakan unique?
Shreds elite and have a perfect AoE cleaning, also you can use the rain of arrows to reset the imbuements for your rapid fire.
You could poison rapid fire, rain of arrow, poison rapid fire again for melting bosses even faster!!
I've been considering this route since finding the amulet. Currently running close to it but only double imbuement with poison trap and concealment. But dropping trap for the third imbuement is verrrrry tempting
Do you have a d4 planner link or a vid you could show me im interested in switching from pen shot to this pen just lacks dammage at high end unfortunately
@@itsgiyu412 I don't, and to be honest, I'm thinking of u-turning completely. While the Hakan amulet is a good incentive to use Rain Of Arrows, it feels like at a high enough level the Rogue ultimates aren't good enough consistently to justify ther investment. I think I'm aiming towards a variant of the Rapid Fire build in Valued's latest vid. Combo points and Edgemasters aspect just push the ceiling of the build so much higher too.
What I've found though is that as long as you are committed to a bow build the refund costs for skill trees etc aren't too bad for Rogue yet. So I'm still expereimenting a fair bit
@@GerryCasts yeh i just gave rain a go it doesnt do enough in high end hopefully they buff it looks cool af
Pretty accurate representation of the different ranged core skills. Would love to see if it's even possible to clear t100 with any ranged option in the current state. From my own experience it's most likely only possible with rapid fire. So far the only t100 rogue clear is with a tb death trap combo, which has lots of CC added to it, like the dash daze aspect and daze on vul enemies.
The highest I've seen on youtube at least is Barrage. A dude from Korea cleared t86
I don't think any ranged build can clear NM dungeon 100 honestly.
After I kill Lilith I'm on a NM dungeon pushing hunt!
@@Valuedx Would be nice to see since I've stopped trying. Got a bit bored of farming gold to hit those perfect rolls and affored high ipower weps in bids. Felt a bit pointless at some point cause there aren't ladders yet or anything rewarding beside the titel which 99% of player don't even know
@@jinshin85 that's decently high already, but i feel like barage caps out at some point since the nature of the skill kinda requiers a semi close ranged playstyle. Maybe it's doable with added CC, but at that point, why not just go tb
@@geem3091because it's tankier, TB just doesn't bring enough defense.
I wish you a happy birthday and once again, thank you for the great video. :)
Important note with rapid fire: it can be used in builds that let you drop basic skills.
It’s easy to make Rapid fire pay for itself.
HBD! awesome video as always, can we expect a rapid fire build in the future for NM Dungeons?
Thank you fetso! Rapid Fire is the last ranged build I'm going to update. It's on the calendar :)
Happy Birthday man. Good luck on Lilith.
Thanks Hakaii! :)
Happy bday, enjoying your content
Woohoo Happy Bday bro!! I love watch your content on comparing each build, quite fair and objective.. hope you later also try the twisting blade build and let us know which one is best for the rogue build!
Yeah, I will be making some twisting blades guides soon :)
Also thanks for the happy birthdays gilriva :)
Yes! Cant hardly wait! rite now Im back to your penetrating build since I got the sacred unique bow from boss field.. it gave 10-20% chance double damage!
Happy b day. This is a fair assessment. Rapid fire, poison trap, dash, forceful arrow, and death trap. Super fun way to traverse the map. I pretty much level everything I come into contact with.
Very similar to my build but I don't use a basic skill. You should give it a try the glyph that restores 12% energy on crit and 15 energy on vulnerable makes RF basically free.
@@dirtygerd9083 do you use inner sight or preparation as mastery?
@@fumano2679 Preparation. As long as I maintain vulnerable I never run out of energy.
Happy birthday, thanks for the video
happy birthday dude. great video.
Happy Birthday. i know you are busy but do you have any ETA on that updated Rapid Fire guide. I play your RF+ PEN build now but i really wanna go back to pure RF i think. And i love your builds so wont switch back before i see what you done :D Hey even if you just have a D4 planner with paragon and aspects i could use that to ;) Anyway keep you the good work you make really good guides and videos.
Thank you a ton Zapa! Rapid Fire will be the next (and last until they release balance changes) build guide that I do on the channel. I'm currently progressing on the lilith fight with my Single target variation, so I haven't had time to test everything I want to with a more balanced build to make a video.
Also, I'm really glad you enjoy my videos this much - means a ton to me.
Happy birthday man
I totally agree with you on every word you said. Absolutely spot on!
Haha nice to know I'm not crazy! Thanks for the bday wishes :)
I'm level 56 pen shot shadow/poison, caltrops, shrouds and bad gearing but managing on teir 3, defo need to gear up and follow one of ur builds properly now I'm getting towards end only side quests and dungeons to complete
Thanks for ur help
Helltides are great for gearing. I'm 57 and replaced half my gear just today from helltides mysterious chests
Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday my favourite Ranged Rogue Player! 🎉🎉
Thanks a ton melubo! Glad to see you again :)
@@Valuedx :D
Happy birthday!
Happy bday! Will you try out and make guides for other classes eventually?
Yes! Rogue is just my first class, I like to cover all my bases before moving on. I'm going to be ramping up my playtime and content time so I will be expanding to all the classes before Season 1 :)
*Top 20 pvp player globally here*
I did 1300ish pvp kills with twisting blades. Movement was cancer. Absolutely yawnfest. Sorcs press 2 buttons and I'm 100% frozen and 100% dead.
Barrage changed my d4 life like an adderral before a test. It's gross. No buildup. I AHK cold + shadow inbuement, every 6 seconds one after the other, so I'm never out of inbuement damage. It's a rotating fuckfest of driveby damage. Speed farming is possible. Solo damage is literally the same as twisting blades as I've seen. I'm only lvl 87, and I'm breezing past lv60 nightmares somehow.
Pvp is hilarious now. Absolute meme. Sorcs get dickslapped. Absolute W.
Big W, big big big W to Wudijo and the team. He answers any of my questions I have, always has the best advice, and your content is great aswell.
Barrage>>>
Happy Birthday you glorious bastard!
hahahaha. thanks clint :)
Feliz aniversário, mano!
Eu tenho jogado com pen shot e tenho gostado muito, principalmente pelo fato dela não ser tão efetiva contra bosses......isso deixa certas batalhas mais divertidas! Mas eu no começo do jogo usei bastante rapid fire e provavelmente vou testar ela de novo agora que estou com uns lvls a mais. Ótimo vídeo, muito obrigado!
i really like rapid fire, its so fun to destroy single enemies, also the hitbox is relatively large, u can hit 2 mobs with it in 1 line, pen shot is fun but hard to execute, barrage is ok and more of a chill build, but rapid fire is my favourite
Yeah Rapid Fire is a lot of fun, I just find (personally) that it struggles in AOE scenarios, but it's probably the strongest ranged option available.
@@Valuedx ye true, it takes long to clear big mobs with rapid fire, its really strong against elites and stuff though (especially with shadow step)
It's amazing in AOE just put the ricochet aspect on the crossbow. 90% chance to ricochet and its a nuke
@@austin_c ah nice, i will test it out more, (got it on my level 50 archer)
I loved the Pen shot build, i tried the barrage variant from lvl 55-73 and now im looking for new aspects and gear for the new variant of the pen shot build (the one with rain of arrows)
Love the content cheers
Absolutely Jhona! I'm glad you enjoy the content :)
How do you deal with "i have no imbu ready, im useless"? I run Barrage with Condamnation + combo and it just deletes every1, with Pene shot i feel like trash without imbu lol
@@D00RYArun 3 imbued skills youl never not have one ready then you have frost to debuff poison for dps and shadow for ad clear
Happy Birthday! I'm running 2 impudents (shadow and poison) with rapid fire, poison trap, shadow step, and death trap. I'm using Preparation with no basic skills, and for the most part it works pretty well. The biggest downside is lack of mobility while actually shooting
A lot of people are a big fan of those Preparation builds. I gotta do some more testing with them, I always just find combo points to hit way harder.
@@Valuedxdefinitely do a preparation build. Super fun
Could probably drop poison imbue for dash if you want some mobility. Your single target is already pretty nutty. Idk what level you are but at 80 things die before poison even makes an impact.
@Valuedx Combo his harder for sure, but being able to spam rapid fire helps with groups and isn't too much worse for boss damage.
@dirtygerd9083 There's a way to get poison trap to cause vulnerability, and it helps alot with resource management since rapid fire can get energy back that way.
Rapid fire is my favorite because I like running preparation without using a basic skill.
how does it work? you start with penetration shot then follow up with rapid fire?
@@KasparL My skill set up is RF, dash, smoke grenade, poison trap, and deathtrap. I spec shadow imbue if I'm running open world and cold imbue for pushing nightmare. My death trap is at 54k right now so with vuln and other multipliers it clears packs pretty quick and rapid fire is great for lowering cds via preparation and exposure. 3 aspects core to my build are grenades are traps, grenades freeze, and drop grenades on evade.
@@dirtygerd9083 interesting, so its basically a trapper build with rapid fire
Happy birthday man good videos ! enjoy your day
Happy Birthday! Love all your guides so far!
Thanks a ton jedi I really appreciate it :)
Happy birthday broski!🎉❤
Thank you so much mika! :)
Happy bday man mines is literally in like 2 hours lol😅 but if u can u should do a rouge melee tier rate too like this one but wit melee would be cool for sum melee users out here besides a twisting blade build but love the content tho
Wow we're almost birthday twins hahaha. Happy early birthday!
Yeah, I need to play the melee builds more before I do an overall Rogue tier list. I want to make sure my opinions are based in my informed opinions :)
@@Valuedx thank u 💯🥳🙌🏾
🎉Happy Birthday Dude !🎉 Thanks again for all your constructive contents ! It's help me a lot in my first diablo (yeah I know 😅) and I hope you'll going on like you always do.
I have a True question, I drop a unique Bow and the legs too with great principal stats but I feel weak, do you advise me to change for smthg with an other aspect ?
jcs! Thank you so much for the comment first off :D really appreciate your kind words.
So here's my breakdown on the Unique bows: they are cool, and Windforce specifically is really interesting - but sadly Crossbows just deal more damage overall in the end-end game.
But, while youre leveling - you can absolutely use a unique bow, especially if it's a DPS increase.
Also for the pants (I'm assuming you're talking about the Unique Pants "Teremity") you can use these if you are running the passive called "Siphoning Strikes", because it will consistently give you an overshield if you're attacking close mobs.
I hope this helps, if you want any more clarification please let me know and I will respond in the morning when I wake up. :)
@@Valuedx it's excaltly the ones I have (sorry for the names, I was not sure of the English Trad cause I'm French). The passive of the Bow is not incredible but I got it when I passed world 4 so the diff between sacred and ancestral was huge ! I'll try to catch a good crossbow 😉
Thanks again for the answer 👍
I love your vids so I've subbed :) Question: I'm levelling with the Pen shot (completed campaign on another character) - at what point should I consider respeccing into Rapid Fire? Thanks again!
Ooh. Well, the natural transition point is always in World Tier 4 if you can wait that long. But, what level are you? Would help me to gauge this.
@@Valuedx Just lvl 32 so far, in WT2. I've never done the capstone yet to get to WT3, even on my main (necro). I was just excited that I could skip the campaign and start a new rogue, so that's where I'm at so far.
If you get a drop with the Repeating Aspect definitely try it out, it's super fun
i have played barrage and twsiting blades and never coming back with arrow builds in my life
I'm loving Barrage, but I'm also a dad who doesn't have enough time to get good. Barrage is a ton of fun; I feel more like a Spartan with a shotgun than a Rogue with a bow. Oh, and Shadow Imbuement exploding everything on screen is hilarious.
Happy birthday m8 ❤🎉
Thank you nico!
Happy Birthday :)
Thanks a ton lol39r :)
Rogues in higher tier nightmares severely lack any form of def really. Expected to be melted by poison and random explosion death.
A lot of the mob damage is straight up bullshit. Hope the devs raise def or nerf some of the mobs.
Yeah it's like near impossible without cheesing the game with some boring mechanics/unique combos.
I love your contents about Rogue! So enlightened to still use my Rogue.
Thank you so much harry! I'm glad you're enjoying :)
Been having a blast with a variation of rapid fire, nothing else feels the same. Also prefer it with a bow over a crossbow.
edit: happy birthday!
Yeah Rapid Fire is truly amazing, I agree.
@@Valuedx Looking forward to the update! I've been running my own paragon board off your bowazon build and I think I'm far too deep into the exploit board LOL
@@hrrsndck Hahaha. No worries, I'll be getting it updated in the next day or so :)
Happy Birthday! How about builds for hardcore? Pen + rapid fire?
IMO HC best in slot ranged build is Rapid Fire. It's just the most consistent output.
@@Valuedx ty!!
Thanks for your opinion, helped me to recalibrate my thoughts about gearing from 80 to 100. I play pen-shot but will go on rapidfire for key-pushing...do you have a vid for an endgame bosskilling rapidfire build?
I'm fine tuning the build still before I make a video on it.
@@Valuedx perfect, i will stay tuned😉
Happy birthday goat
Thanks Kramer :)
Love your builds, I'm running rapid/pen hybrid build and its just overall the best builds for me, great single target dps with psn imbue and then pen and shadow for AoE. With just one point invested into shadow I still have level 7 from items. Owning content at lvl 73 and nightmare dungeons around 25-30.
What's your view on windforce? I want to make a windforce build ...as I found one with 19/20% chance to double dmg snd knockback!
The thing about bows is this: they’re nice for leveling because you attack faster, but crossbows will be your best move in the end end game if you’re looking to maximize damage. But it’s not unplayable by any means :)
@@Valuedx thanks for your input, greatly appreciated and I hear ya. Just a shame windforce isn't quite the same as the D2 version.
I'll still try and theory craft a build and let you know if it's any good 👍
Looking forward to future content. Subscribed and locked in 👌
Currently running rapid fire with repeating aspect 90% chance to ricochet and it feels godly. Gear is mostly core skill + vuln dmg + crit dmg + attack speed affixes. I leveled with barrage, but i feel this rapid fire build has even better aoe imho. Currently doing nightmatr dungeons in the mid 30's range at around level 65
How did you find repeating aspect
This, I got a Repeating aspect drop at like level 30 and used it all the way til 50. Was sad to switch to pen shot even though the screen clear in one click is fun I miss my 90% ricochet rapid fire. I've been sitting on the aspect waiting for at least a 725+ crossbow with decent rolls to switch back, mostly because I've yet to get a second drop of it while I'm drowning in Trickshot aspects
Happy birthday valued great content do you think the penshot build with rapid was worth losing the trap it resets cool down gives you knock down and crit chance when activated
Honestly, you don't HAVE to take Rapid Fire. That skill is more for players who are finding bosses exceedingly hard (likely because they don't have the necessary stat lines). I personally like Pen Shot with or without Rapid Fire!
For the replacement, Poison Trap is my favorite option for the crit chance from Trap Mastery & the added CC/damage reduction utility.
I like this guy, subbed
HAPPY BDAY!
i love your videos,, please do one also in twisting blades and flurry :D , i think the best of them all compared as you mention is the twisting blades poison one
Happy birthday!!
Thanks garret!! :)
I like the ‘rapid-pen’ variant but I use poison trap just to play a poison ivy theme. About to try using shadow clone with it. Friend of mine said it’s wrecked for her at level 77.
barrage dps should be the same as rapid fire in close range, or maybe better. i find that rapid fire shot slower and can not move while shotting, while barrage shot faster with its shadow that will shot other arrows for you and you can move right after you shot ,and free vulner debuff that you dont need to depend on exploit glyphs or trap lucky hit aspect like rapid fire.
Happy birthday bro your Build is have maxroll platform?
Happy birthday, 20 hours ago!!
Thank you Crimson! :)
I really wanted to like range rogue but controlling it just wasn’t working well for me. I think I need to practice more orb movement
Hmm. If you want the best SEGWAY build (to start getting used to it) Barrage is probably the easiest to play to get comfortable with ranged rogues :-)
I have to know do you listen to classic music while playing haha.
I've been leveling one of each class to around 60-70 so far rogue is the only one I'm considering doing twice. Pen shot is incredibly fun as was tb, I want to collect some of the other aspects to try other builds as well! Thanks for this video!
Also happy birthday and good luck on your Uber lillith
Hahaha I appreciate classical music, I know it's not for everybody but gotta stay true! Lol.
You are very welcome leben, I'm glad you're enjoying the build guides & they're helping you out! :)
happy birthday ive taken alot of builds from you
I hope they've been helping you enjoy D4 to the max! Thanks Kemgie.
Babby Hirthday! 🥳🎉
Merry Birfmas!!!!
Happy Birthday
i am using the same rapid fire build but i use shadow clone as well
Do stream at all? would love to watch ur lilithg prog
I'm looking into streaming soon :)
But I don't have a great way to let people know I'm streaming on here haha
I have been noticing a lot of rogues moving toward bow builds lately. It’s nice that there are options, but respecing and gearing is just a bit too much for me lol
Happy birthday man
Thank you delskif :)
Penshot won't clear a room without trickshot so, I assume that's included in your evaluation. for this reason, IMO, you should also include aspect of repeating for rapid fire. It's ranked 1 in boss damage, but could it be better than barrage with aspect of repeating aspect?
Happy birthday pimp 💪🏽
Hahaha thank you phillip! Appreciate it.
Fell in love with rapid fire however i went barrage for survivability until i get word of hakan and then ill go back to rapid fire !
True😂 I did changed to rapid fire after getting Word of Hakan
@@mikasayeager2183 can you get it on WT3 or does it have to be in WT4 nightmares??
I got mine in tier 3. Im still level 64 haha. But I think theres a word of Hakan in tier 4 if im not mistaken
@@mikasayeager2183 damn I just have shit luck then
Why? What level are u right now?
For a pure ranged Rogue, rapid fire is choice. Barrage is for hybrids, and precision, ricochet barrage is simply the strongest ranged core skill. The only problem with it, is its so energy hungry. Of course, this shouldn't be a problem in the end, endgame; but thats true of every class and build.
Pro tip: If you're building a Cold Sorc, then build a Cold Rogue. They can feed each other gear. Shadow is stronger, but you're on yer own. 👍
Yeah Rapid Fire is an amazing skill. I personally think it's the best at level 100.
But up until 100, Pen Shot is my absolute favorite. Not because it's better, but it's so satisfying.