28mm Dark Ages Painting Project - Episode 1

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • I'm really excited about sharing more of what I've been doing (and what I will be doing!) with everyone here on UA-cam. It's been a big part of my hobby and I'm really missing the interaction.
    In this video, Episode 1 of my Dark Ages project I have a look at the 'Saxon' army I've started painting. It will quite a large army once it's all done and dusted with very simple paint jobs, but it should look great on the table once it's all done.
    These 28mm dark age miniatures from Crusader Miniatures were a joy to paint. It was a very easy and pleasant experience, if I can sort out the spears I have no doubts I can knock out hundreds of them pretty quickly.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 71

  • @RedBeardBaron
    @RedBeardBaron 4 роки тому +2

    Glad you are back man! The hobby has been sorely missing your personality.

  • @blacktower7777
    @blacktower7777 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome to see Viv feeling good about the hobby. Always been a fan of your creativity and straight forward approach. Looking forward to more from you my friend. The terrain community really misses you.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +2

      I really miss doing terrain videos. When I was doing all my videos on terrain, I was single and lived above my shop so it was very to just walk down stairs at 3am and make stuff. Life is a bit different now and it's not so easy. If I can get some more kit for the studio and get into the habit of filming during the day, I'd love to do more terrain work

  • @Tatti12321
    @Tatti12321 4 роки тому +1

    Still remember watching my first tau terrain video which got me back into it again on this channel all those years back

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +2

      I never finished the Tau terrain set I was working on all those years ago. I gave it to a local club and they finished it off beautifully!

  • @DerekKinsman
    @DerekKinsman 4 роки тому +3

    Footsore sells 100mm spears in packs of 20. If you've got any local hobby stores I'd definitely try and get some of the brass rods used for pinning figures and models. 0.5mm brass rod is fairly easy to get a hold of from hobby suppliers.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      I'm really not keen on those thin spears, but then again I've never used them. I have quite a few packs of them so perhaps I should try them? They just look so different from the spears that come molded onto figures.

    • @DerekKinsman
      @DerekKinsman 4 роки тому

      @@RubbishInRubbishOut I find the spear tip lacks detail, but once they're painted up they look fine from across the table. I considered using some super thin Tamiya masking tape to add some detail but gave up when I realized that was a lifetime's amount of work to do.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому

      Hehe, yeah. I'm not the most patient person, I just need something quick and easy. Even though thought of making my own spears is daunting and no doubt will cause delays to the project!

    • @bryanatocalagarrison4519
      @bryanatocalagarrison4519 4 роки тому +1

      @@RubbishInRubbishOut I have friends who had good luck using plastic bristles from cheap kitchen brooms. Thickness is in between the metal and cast spears plus they have the benefit of being bendy if an accident happens.

    • @DerekKinsman
      @DerekKinsman 4 роки тому

      RubbishInRubbishOut yeah. As much as I like scratch building stuff (so many ideas for cool terrain, no cool terrain) I also like having finished projects I can use.

  • @03dashk64
    @03dashk64 4 роки тому

    I know this is a bit late, but check out brass rod. It’s usually used for pinning, but it is the right size and can absolutely be shaped with a little work. Also extremely sturdy.

  • @mariuszpolak8229
    @mariuszpolak8229 4 роки тому +2

    Great you're back!!! Your hobby videos were the first ones I came across while looking for tips on how to build hills :)

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      It's strange to think I've been uploading videos for more than 10 years ... time flies past so quickly!

  • @MedievalWargamer
    @MedievalWargamer 4 роки тому +1

    Beautifully painted!

  • @DeathrowGeoffro
    @DeathrowGeoffro 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome! Viv is back. Lovely dark age figs. Most different 'factions' would have looked fairly similar at most points I think so mix and matching is fine. For spears I saw a video once about plastic broom bristles. Hope the motivation stays I really enjoy your videos even remember the old just put the camera on builds.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      Plastic broom bristles sounds interesting! Maybe heating up the end a little to soften the plastic and then flattening it between some pliers might make a good spear heaad?

    • @DeathrowGeoffro
      @DeathrowGeoffro 4 роки тому +3

      @@RubbishInRubbishOut found the video where I saw it, no heating involved ua-cam.com/video/KWYAGyj01vE/v-deo.html

  • @JackSargePainting
    @JackSargePainting 4 роки тому

    So great to see you back making videos, and Dark Ages too! :-) Spears - (I didn't check to see if this has already been suggested), grab an industrial type yard or workshop broom/brush - the ones with thick tough bristles. Cut bunch of bristles off, trim to size & squish ends in vice or pliers, trim to a point with Xacto blade if needed. With regards to funny Dark Age hats, pretty realistic seeing conical woollen or leather caps & "Phrygian" style hats across the board.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      I'm going to have to look up the "Phrygian" hats, are the little ones I was mentioning about being worn by the Normans? The bristles could be a good idea, I'll poke around in the garden shed and see if the outdoor broom has thick enough bristles!

    • @JackSargePainting
      @JackSargePainting 4 роки тому

      @@RubbishInRubbishOut Yeah that dude is just wearing a floppy cap - kind of in the Phrygian style, very common place, not restricted to Normans: wychwood.wikidot.com/kit-hats
      Simple shield designs are great. To be honest a number of the LBMS decals are possibly a bit over the top: www.vikingage.org/wiki/wiki/Round_Shield_Designs

  • @vonketteringham
    @vonketteringham 4 роки тому +1

    A welcomed return!

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      You my friend have been a massive inspiration! The quality and super-human (almost unbelievable) speed at which you churn out amazing looking figures is awe inspiring. Thank you!

    • @vonketteringham
      @vonketteringham 4 роки тому +1

      @@RubbishInRubbishOut carry on talking like that and we will be best friends!

  • @Samanar
    @Samanar 4 роки тому

    Man, I'm just starting with SAGA and your initial videos describing the mechanic are simply put amazing. So much clarity and good examples - better than all the stuff that gets produced by companies selling their own stuff. Great that you feel the vibe again and want to get back to creating videos. It might be a random single voice on the internet but I feel we miss that positive feedback towards people we appreciate - they (in this case you) need to feel the support. So thanks for doing what you're doing, hope you'll have fun doing it and looking forward to more painting/discussions/batreps or whatever you have coming. Cheers from Poland! :)

  • @ten4miniatures
    @ten4miniatures 4 роки тому +2

    Glad to hear you'll be back making videos! I've enjoyed your stuff over the years.
    I don't know enough history of the time to know the difference between Saxons and the rest. I like the idea of "Dark Age Force" that can sort of work for a bunch, with certain units unique to factions for when you need them.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      I'm lucky that my gaming group and friends are all pretty relaxed people that just enjoy pushing man-dollies around the table and aren't too fussed about 'historical accuracy'. I'm happy to run them as a generic 'dark ages army' that can take the place of Vikings in this game, and Saxons in the next.

  • @johnclarke9498
    @johnclarke9498 Рік тому

    Nice hand painted shields 👍

  • @pbeccas
    @pbeccas 4 роки тому

    Gripping Beast make separate lead spear packs. They are thick and reliable. I am really glad you are making vids again Viv. It’s such a great bunch of blokes on here. You need to get into some of the paint and chats on Discord with VK, Brit Legion and the boys. I am really enjoying it.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому

      I had a look at the GB lead spears, they have a bunch of other conversion weapons available too. Certainly warrants a closer look, I wonder if I can get them from W&P here in Australia. Might need to buy some once the virus is passed and international mail is running properly.

  • @Oldf0x
    @Oldf0x 4 роки тому +1

    Dark Ages FTW!

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому

      So much fun to paint ... really looking forward to doing more soon!

  • @blaizerhodes
    @blaizerhodes 4 роки тому +1

    Good to see you back mate. I was thinking of getting myself some Victrix saxons myself. But I've got Germans for Bolt Action to do first.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      Victrix make some beautiful figures! I'm just not a fan of plastic. I don't have the patience to glue things together! Hehe, I've had metal figures sitting around for years because I had to glue a single arm on and just couldn't be bothered! :)

  • @BerlinCardYard
    @BerlinCardYard 4 роки тому +1

    For spears you can use rough booth's plastic brushes 😁 One booth makes a hole sprear wall!

  • @piccadillymodelrailways
    @piccadillymodelrailways 4 роки тому +2

    Good to see you back. I started modelling few years ago. On the recommendation of other youtubers, I subscribed to your channel enjoying many of your earlier videos.
    You mentioned finding a metal to make spears. Could you use solder? It’s soft and easy to mould, but not sure how durable in war gaming it might be, but for static model I’m sure it would work well.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      Well I must thank those other UA-camrs ... and of course you for watching! I think solder might be a little too soft, the paint would chip off every time I needed to straighten the spears :(

  • @torniolol
    @torniolol 4 роки тому +1

    w00t! Vivs back! Nice Video mate!

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks mate, I've really missed it. Need to do some brewing soon so will have to pop the cameras on and have a ramble!

  • @philRminiatures
    @philRminiatures 4 роки тому

    Inspiring work on these figures, love the subtile color scheme...and your collection of hats! New sub!

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks mate ... I must get back to this project. I haven't painted any more for AGES. I need to sort out the spears (I can't find a brush with any bristles I like) as it's really thrown a spanner in this project.

  • @Narx1983
    @Narx1983 4 роки тому +1

    Viv! About time my dude welcome back! No better time to get back into the hobby!
    Have you watched Death of Hope by Mark Louis Spark? I'd love for you to do a reaction video. Us old school 40k fans love it!

  • @maryhinge6334
    @maryhinge6334 4 роки тому

    Good to see you back making videos. Very nice figures. Gripping Beast might be worth a look. They sell separate lead spears that are much chunkier. 👍

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому

      Ohhh ... I love their figures, but I didn't know they sell separate spears! Thanks!

    • @jdonahoe4387
      @jdonahoe4387 4 роки тому

      @@RubbishInRubbishOut Fireforge also sell packs of separate spears though they are plastic. Northstar sells them, search for "dv 005 plastic spears 5cm" and they pop right up. I'm not a fan of metal spears, the machined ones are dangerously sharp tipped and the lead/pewter ones are chunky, soft, and bend too easily.

  • @NoName-uh3lp
    @NoName-uh3lp 4 роки тому +2

    The best wire I found for making spears is paper clips.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      Do you flatten out the end some how to make a spear head?

    • @nigelgibson9910
      @nigelgibson9910 4 роки тому

      Second that, jumbo clips, from the two dollar store, if you can't get 'em for nothing.You can flatten the end with pliers, takes a bit of grunt, better to flatten with a hammer. You can use a rock though or any heavy object. Then file to a point, nail files, emery boards, needle files, even bastard files work with care. Or just rub up and down on concrete. Glad you're back, ray of light when I was stuck in Palmerston North years ago.

  • @miguellavariel1348
    @miguellavariel1348 3 роки тому

    These look great
    I would use some stronger highlights and more value contrast, to push them further.

  • @Andrew-pp2ql
    @Andrew-pp2ql 3 роки тому

    General difference with saxons and Vikings would be more subtle. Cloth colors that would be popular for Vikings would not necessarily be as popular for saxons. Another would be shield designs. Saxons often favored one background color shields with simple designs like stripes and crosses painted on it. Vikings opted often for a variety of colors for their shields with curved lines dividing the shield into quarters and halves with those divisions in different colors like red, white, black and yellow being the favorited colors. I do agree on best to hand paint your own shields for saxons and Vikings....it’s cheaper and can be done as well as using transfers as the designs are not difficult to do as compared to Celtic shields for example.

  • @wannabegeneral
    @wannabegeneral 4 роки тому

    Hi Viv. Nice to see you back and bubbling with enthusiasm.
    One spear solution you might like to consider is Fire Forge Games plastic spears.
    More info here: fireforge-games.com/weapons/274-spears-5cm-24pcs.html
    I wouldn't be too worried about axes in your Anglo-Saxon armies. As England had been conquered by Cnut in 1014, technically these armies were Anglo-Danes at this time. And the Daneaxe had been popular amongst the English nobility and Housecarls prior to this anyway.
    I have recently returned to my Dark Age collection and started adding Irish Warriors, which are the easiest (also read boring) figures to paint.
    Looking forward to seeing your progress.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the details, I had a look at the FF plastic spears last night ... they look like the easiest solution to me. Thicker than the thin metals once, but unfortunately out of stock at my usual places. Good luck with the Irish!

  • @BritishLegion666
    @BritishLegion666 4 роки тому

    Top job m8

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому

      Thanks mate ... so much fun, I'm really looking forward to painting more!

  • @wouterw.2945
    @wouterw.2945 4 роки тому

    Why not visit your local hobby model store and pick up some brass wire? They have these in different sizes and are not that expensive. Paperclips are also a great solution but hard to straighten out.
    Not big on historical games myself, though the Dark Ages stuff has been tempting me for years.

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      I was thinking about using some brass wire, but I've not used it before and don't know how hard it will be to squish into a spearhead

    • @wouterw.2945
      @wouterw.2945 4 роки тому

      @@RubbishInRubbishOut Fairly easy to do with a pair of pliers. Brass is softer than steel.

  • @jeffblack1967
    @jeffblack1967 4 роки тому +1

    I dont have a solution for the spear head, but I use 2" diaper pins that i have cut up.

  • @Sudo_Nimh
    @Sudo_Nimh 4 роки тому +1

    Can you vise the wire, or maybe just hammer it then clean it up with a file/sandpaper?

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      Possibly, need to duck next door to me neighbour and give it a try on his anvil!

  • @TheEbonstar
    @TheEbonstar 4 роки тому +1

    Yo!!!!

  • @TonyLS9A
    @TonyLS9A 4 роки тому

    I wouldn't sweat the off piece of "inappropriate" gear on Dark Ages figures. There was so much cross-pollinating of cultures, battlefield looting, and overall chaos that the concept of uniformity was not really a thing. Fight/paint on!

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому

      A friend was showing me a picture of one of their Vikings vs Saxon big battle games and I couldn't tell the difference - aside from some obvious Viking Berserkers. They said they also use the armies for either side when they need to bulk out the forces. I'm looking forward to just cracking on and after years of wanting, finally have a big army to be proud of

  • @redgreen09
    @redgreen09 4 роки тому

    well whekem back HUMM good spears THAY DO got meatel ones me a good tuth pick round one pen in sieds brass tubes yes got chane out my picks on some my pike girls fore the amazons thats projet UUUGGG wil see what come up with as post it

    • @RubbishInRubbishOut
      @RubbishInRubbishOut  4 роки тому +1

      I'm tempted to get the plastic spears from Fireforge, I'm really not to keen on making hundreds of spears myself! :D