The Ultimate 6S RC Basher Tires - Trencher HP Belted 3.8" Tires
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- The tires worked great, replaceable hexes were flawless and they're belted; the one r/c basher tire to rule them all?
Links:
Trencher HP Belted 3.8" Tires w/Removable Hexes: www.amainhobbi...
Replacement 17mm Hexes: www.amainhobbi...
Trencher HP Belted 2.8" Tires (1/10 scale): www.amainhobbi...
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This makes me happy to see an rc Car in the hotter areas driving because it’s still winter and I live in the NE in the us 😊
It's great how you give info and respond to questions in the comment section also keep up the great work Brett🤜🏻🤛🏻
Thanks for the tape water trick
Now they do this. I have the Xs with Gorilla fishing line and they are almost new. Still, I'll put them in the wish list at your place Brett, just because you are such a nice guy. If I were 40 years younger, I'd be after your job.😮😊👍👍
HA. You're going to put me in the poor house like that?
-Brett
I really could never do it as well as you, Truth👍👍
At the price, they need to be amazing.
Glad too see I'm not the only one trying to steer in vain while doing wheelies. 😂
It's probably avc. tsm does that crap all the time and actually sometimes does stabilize my revo when it gets on 1 wheel.
3.8 is more of a 1/5 scale tyre!#😊👍🏻 they are very heavy and can overheat your motor unless you gear down..
or break your diffs
They are not bigger than a primal rc raminator tire
@@huntershort8747 well I mean that’s more of a 1/3 scale
Wheelie -- wheelie? Really -- really! Nice review Brett, et al.
u were in the spirit world there 4 a sec bro! great drivin!!
0:32 a spartan with slash tires, what the heck 😂🤔😂😂😂😁
Funny lol nice editing, skills.
Good grief!
Sweet video my brotha those tires look beast on the Kraton they're so much better than the original Trenchers thanks for sharing happy bashing bud.
Thanx for giving it to me straight. Good info
Those tires are beast
“Boats... whatever...” 🤣🤣
Good review. I'm already waiting for a 2.8" set of these to arrive next week for my Associated MT10. Heehee, you definitely have your servo saver working overtime when you add so much extra width/weight/etc!
Did they work good? I also have the mt10 and am curious about the jumping and flips with belted tires
@@timpickelman4096 same here
I prefer the LPs as they're more affordable.
i deffo need some of these for my E Revo 2.0!
Just ripped apart a RTR Talon tire from a bash session
gah proline needs to make keyed adapters, i keep stripping my hexes :/
@@chevycamaro-rp6tr buy the aluminum ones
I enjoy your videos very much.. I am fairly new to the rc hobby. Can you make a video describing the different type of electro motors ( brushed ,brushless, closed bell, open bell ,motor turns etc. That would be greatly appreciated.
Hey Julian. I can give you a quick summary on them here. Brushless systems are faster, more powerful, require nearly no maintenance, but are more expensive. Brushed systems are less powerful, require more maintenance but are inexpensive. For both brushless and brushed, a lower motor turn is faster (7.5T is faster than 17.5T). For beginners, a brushed system is a good starting point because of lower costs. After time, you can upgrade to brushless. If you have the budget, I recommend get a brushless from the start. Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies Thanks for the information.
OMG!! Time to break out the ole Snap-On tool box for those puppies.........
Where do you find the time to make these great and informative videos? Don't you have a business to run? I wish I lived anywhere near you guys, I'd spend all my money at your place... (Oh, now I get it :) ).
Keep up the excellent work, you're doing a great service to the RC community!
Ha! Thanks for watching David.
-Brett
The weight is the biggest issue for me. Used the 2.8's on slash and just found them to heavy for everything. I still prefer using gorilla tape on the inside of normal tires. Did this to my badlands and I love them.
Those are good tires too. We made a video on the Road Crushers a while back and they're pretty awesome.
-Brett
Very fast brett mines fast but not Even close to that speed i wish though then it would be hard to drive it somewhere in my area cause Always hard to drive it Anywhere but Anyways beautiful video lots of insight
So can you buy replacement center 17mm hubs once you’ve stripped them out. We all know they will eventually strip.
Yes you can. I read that you can even replace the plastic hubs with aluminum ones.
Yeah, you can replace them with plastic, or, like Christopher pointed out, there are optional aluminum hubs.
-Brett
Awesome video!!
Put them on my mt4-g3 with 4s.
Haven’t tried them yet.
I put them on my Savage 4.6 and my Arrma Notorious , they shake / almost steer the car from side to side on blacktop during speed runs, I'm disappointed because they look pretty Bada$$ no real issues in dirt though .
Damn those are some big tires :o they look sick tho,great job
Hilarious! I love your sense of humor in your videos Brett 👍 The idea of these tires is great but I think Proline missed a bit on the execution. Alot heavier and that removable hex has a tendency to crack, at least on the 2.8.... Still nice to see though, improvement can always be made 😃
Yup 👍
Not that the trenchers aren’t awesome, but how cool would the badlands be belted.
Agreed!
-Brett
Cause people are Always complaining about my Truck ruck it in THE park with there dogs wich is a leaed license park for dogs i love Animals but come on man.
Beautiful looking beefy tires. Anyone with an E-Revo 2.0 rocking these?
Im yr biggest fan I love yr videos
I'm half and half on these I have them but the age and grippy in the dusty dirt and speed runs with these are hard
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ordered a set!
As a 5th scaler, this is were combustion outshines electric. Belted tires won't stress your petrol/nitro as much as electric. Careful when running belted tires on electric. Source: Hpi Baja 5b flux vs petrol 5B owner.
Lmao your "petrol" motors have burnt up 3 sets of clutches just looking at these tires buddy.
Would you recommend this size or the 2.8 for the Maxx with Wide kit? Thanks I think the extra height may work good in grass
I wouldn't recommend these for the Maxx, they're too big and the servo would really suffer from the weight. The 2.8" would be better if you want belted, or these tires would be awesome:
Trenchers: www.amainhobbies.com/proline-trencher-2.8-tires-w-raid-6x30-wheels-2-m2-pro1170-10/p985707?v=873802
Trenchers LP: www.amainhobbies.com/proline-trencher-low-profile-2.8-tires-w-raid-rear-wheels-2-black-m2-pro10159-10/p976023?v=949174
Badlands MX28: www.amainhobbies.com/proline-badlands-mx28-2.8-premounted-tires-w-raid-6x30-wheels-2-m2-pro10125-10/p985706?v=873803
-Brett
So if you go to pro-line and pick by kit they only recommend the 3.8 wheels none are 2.8. I’m guessing cause the 2.8 come with 12mm hex and Maxx has 17mm
@@artiep6358 Oh shoot, you're right. Then those tires I linked to above are all 12mm and not compatible. That's kind of a bummer.
-Brett
these tires are great, but now every time i brake on my e revo, the damn thing endos...
Looks Awesome!!!
As i see we can backflip these tires... I didn't expected it because of the non ballooning
They have a lot of gyro effect. It was pretty easy to manipulate the truck in the air.
-Brett
balance the tires with modeling clay on inside of wheel. losi makes good balancer. truck will run smoother less wobble.
Tad.bajcar@gmail.com
I'm getting some today
What would be a good gear combo for a erevo 2.0 with these tires
Probably a few teeth smaller pinion gear than whatever comes equipped on the truck. Not sure what it is specifically, but i'd start with 2 smaller and test motor temperatures. If you live in a hot climate, your motor will be hotter than if you lived in a cold climate; so there are some conditions that effect the temperature. But with some trial and error, you'll find what works best for you, in your environment.
-Brett
I wouldnt use them. Of course they look cool but their big and heavy, so they will decrease durability of certain parts drastically, plus they will put a lot of stress on the parts, so they will wear out more quickly
yeah i don’t have the speed gearing on mine but they shattered the differential in 3 runs
Looks good I’ll be dropping down from my 19 tooth maybe. 🤨
My kraton does 70mph is that pushing it for the tires safety?
They're rated up to 75MPH so you're right on the edge. Although these tires may cause your Kraton to go a little slower on the top speed because of their weight. They're not meant to be speed run times.
-Brett
Awesome vid!!!! Have you seen the new hyrax scxl. I’m going to get them for my slash 2wd and I’ll probably get these belted 3.8 trenchers for my notorious. Black on black would look sick! Then I would just need an AC/DC sticker 🤪
Yeah, those Hyrax SC tires look great. Good choice for the Slash.
-Brett
Nice. But I'LL probably bite when they make them a bit smaller for my Outcast 6s. I don't want to put extra stress on my drive train or make my rig slower. Hehe. Or my RTR servo wouldn't be good enough for these monster tires. I guess the 2.8 can't work on the bigger vehicles. 🤔
With too a outcast 6s i agree with you. The drivetrain handles it but the truck turns into a flipping machine on bigger tires. I have a set if vented badlands on mine and i absolutely love them. I learned that the outcast 4s backflip LP'S are just a hair bigger than the badlands, and hair smaller than the stock 6s backflips. You can also scoop up a set on Ebay around $60 bucks! I was looking at a set of those myself. Worth giving a gander
@@koolaidwaterfountainsforth4236 Cool. So the 4s outcast tires fit on the 6s? I didn't know that. That's a great price too. Maybe in the future.
@@joseCalderon1976 still run 17mm wheel hexs!! They'll absolutely bolt up to your 6s rig. Right at 6 inches tall if memory serves right. Prolines are around 5.85, dunno the backflips size off hand but they're over 6 inches tall for sure. 🤙👍
Kool aid for the fat kids? 😂
These are great if you aren't running an erevo, otherwise you're destroying those diffs.
Just hate that they are sooo wide. I bought the trencher 40 series which is not belted but narrower. I like the looks a lot better than the trencher x
I'm with you. The flat tire also has strange characteristics on high traction surfaces. If you don't need belted, don't get them. Thanks for letting us know those worked out for you!
-Brett
These look good, hows the weight? Heavy? I run the 40 series trenchers on my Kraton cus they r not too heavy n my temps stay down
500 grams, u answered my question
Hey Brett hope all been going good with you. Had a question for you what tires are your go to basher tires? Do you have recommendations for tires for my Kraton EXB build? What and why would someone choose belted tires over non belted?
We've only used the EXB stock tires on it. These Belted tires are really big and heavy and are a good tire for vehicles with so much power, they rip the tire, or if you do flat out speedruns. But belted tires stay flat and tend to have a hard edge making high speed cornering a little sketchy and feels like the tire will catch the surface and flip you over. Non-belted tires tend to be more round with no to little edge, so cornering is a lot more comfortable and natural feeling. That's my take on belted and non-belted. Some people love them, some people don't, it's a lot of just personal preference really. For tires, I really like the Badlands. We have a set of these: www.amainhobbies.com/proline-badlands-3.8-premounted-truck-tires-2-black-w-raid-wheels-m2-pro1178-10/p-qqqrqawatzznqctz?v=997148 and they're smaller than the EXB tires. These though, should be taller, but we've never used them: www.amainhobbies.com/proline-badlands-mx38-3.8-tire-w-raid-8x32-wheels-black-2-m2-pro10127-10/p-qqqrq2watbznqctz?v=1009665
Hope that helps Donnie!
-Brett
How are these compared to the Badlands? Are these better than the Badlands?
It's just a different tread design. The Badlands would be better in loose loamy conditions, these are more all-terrain.
-Brett
Better be prepared to drop that pinion size ,
You bet. And watch those temps.
-Brett
Them tires gave u the clap?
can you please explain the purpose of the screws for the tires?
The screws attach the hex hub to the wheel. So if you strip out the hex in the hub, you can easily replace it. If you strip the hex in a normal wheel, the entire wheel and tire are no good. Hope that helps.
-Brett
I ordered a set today. My current gearing is 18/68 on my (first Gen) E Revo with MXL-6s setup. What gearing would you recommend with these big ol tires?
Shoot, not sure specifically. I'd give the tires a go for a few minutes and see what your motor temperatures are like. If it's too hot, gear down one or two teeth on the pinion. Then let the truck cool down and retest.
-Brett
AMain Hobbies Thank you very much. What would be the limit temperature wise?
@@TheBucklerstyle Try to keep the motor under 170°F or 76.6°C for best long term life. If you don't have a temp gun, if i can keep my finger on the motor for 3 seconds without it burning me, it should be ok. But if you can't hold your finger on there even a second, way too hot. But please be careful doing this and don't burn yourself.
-Brett
What causes heat is my question, is it the weight or the drag/surface aria of the tire??
It's the gearing that changes by adding larger diameter tires. It's like a real car accelerating from a dead stop in 2nd gear instead of 1st gear, it's much harder on the motor. With the larger diameter tires, gearing down on the pinion gear helps put the gearing back to where it should be, adding back bottom end torque, and making the motor not work so hard. Because when the motor works harder than it should be, it generates a lot of heat, same with the ESC.
-Brett
To add a bit of explanations, from what I know : if a motor cannot translate the energy it receives into rotation, the energy will dissipate into heat. So if you push hard the throttle but the motor struggles to spin, it will heat up a lot.
The ESC in the other hand, might heat up a lot due to the amount of energy that travels throught it, and the conversion of this energy I suppose?
Hahahq the boat!
man im still happy with my regular proline tires,i just get like 5 of these really wide rubber bands to take out air and then i get some epoxy and seal the holes off and bam the ballooning is reduced by alot and they wear evenly,also what ive noticed on thhe new proline wheels with tires i get lots of wobble from the hub and yes the screws are tight but ive had different sets of those wheels with the removable hubs and ive had the same problem and its super annoying and idk if thats normal ?
That is strange. We didn't notice that with out hubs but we don't have a huge amount of time on them. I'd hit up Proline and ask about it and see if they have a solution.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies Alrighty man thanks for the info,im gonna get my castle mamba x system and then im gonna run the tires,as dumb as that sounds i feel like if i drive my rc car the wheels will fix themselves,thats what ive done in the past and it seems to work.....somewhat
I have those tires on my maxx
In the end they are going to make make your truck slower because you need to lower the gearing and they will be more likely to break other parts on your car such as knuckles arms etc so really the tires that balloon up are going to be a better option because there lighter and when they speed up they have allot of give
Are these to big for a 6s typhon
Yeah, I think so. The wheel will probably run on the chassis guards. For belted 1/8 tires we have some good options but their on-road tires, like these GRP tires: www.amainhobbies.com/grp-gt-to1-revo-belted-premounted-1-8-buggy-tires-black-2-s1-grpgtx01-s1/p944887?v=944888
Or these Pro-Line Avengers: www.amainhobbies.com/proline-avenger-hp-belted-premounted-1-8-buggy-tires-2-black-s3-pro9069-243/p1148831?v=1058134
-Brett
>budget servo
>$69.99
Any recommendations for my Talion tires
Most 3.8" Tires with a 17mm wheel hex should fit. If you want street, checkout these Road Crushers: www.amainhobbies.com/sweep-road-crusher-belted-premounted-monster-truck-tires-black-2-swp-srcc1001b/p1051046
For dirt, these Badlands are some of my favorites, but they are not belted: www.amainhobbies.com/proline-badlands-3.8-premounted-truck-tires-2-black-w-raid-wheels-m2-pro1178-10/p1008608?v=997148
Here is the Belted version: www.amainhobbies.com/proline-badlands-mx38-hp-belted-3.8-premounted-truck-tires-2-black-m2-pro10166-10/p1201222?v=1158025
Let me know what you think!
-Brett
@@AMain_HobbiesI got the badlands for my maxx best decision I ever made (120$) is what what's putting me off so long but they were worth cent
Why are all your replies always deleted after a while
Can that tires go on an erevo 2.0
Yeah that should work, although the tires may rub on the body a little, and the truck may need a different pinion gear to ensure the motor and ESC do not overheat.
-Brett
I give them a 2 star on my Kraton v3! The ARRMA Backflips are the best tires in my opinion.
Yeah, I like the moto look of those.
-Brett
Would these work on my tekno mt410 ?
Oh yeah, those tires would be great on the MT410.
-Brett
I put 3.8 on a mojave it's fun
.muito bom...
Last time i see a video u guys compared this arrma kraton6s vs erevo 2.0 and the kraton don't climb the litte curve. But right now with those tires the erevo 2.0 ar nothing. So don't compare a rc with different tires cause 1 or those rcs they look humiliated.. so i see u like those tires in the kraton6s. Right 🤣
Front left tire falls off at 3:40.
Nope, tire never falls off.
-Brett
AMain Hobbies well something sure looks like it broke, play that shit at .50 speed and you’ll see
@@paulallen-01 You're right it does, but it was the servo saver flexing.
-Brett
AMain Hobbies damn that’s actually pretty impressive that nothing broke. That’s actually some pretty amazing flex and articulation on that steering bell crank!
How do you vent these tyres?
Good question. But he said there's no ballooning issues with it because of the new design.
U don't need to vent 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
The rims are vented so cover them before water or sand runs
@@paulcherry1520 Absolutely.
Will these for to a Tekno MT410, or are they just too big? THANKS
Yes sir, they fit on the truck, but you may need to adjust gearing for the oversized tire. Do you have a MT410 Basher? I've heard those are awesome.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies - Just started a build of one, looks awesome! THANK YOU SIR!!! Very helpful. Order coming!
@@devnull128 Excellent!
-Brett
0:31 ???
Tyler Richardson LOL
I can already hear the little kraton diffs crying out for tighter shimming. LOL SMH.
Senseless for anything smaller than 1/8, 1/5 scale.
The problem with stuff like this and ur models like techno and arrma etc.. is when u break shit you have to order parts because local hobby shops do not carry stuff like this. Who wants to wait for it to ship especially when u break a part and u have to wait a week to get it. That sucks
There the size of your face 😂😂😂
Dang 2kg in weight added to your rig, that's like bashing while hauling around a sack of potatoes on your rig.
Ikr i already strip gears all time but hoping its bc i have damaged parts from via sending enough that s...my kraton is wrecked lol
3:40 the wheel broke
Nah, my money is on it popped off a steering link. Especially a issue on bigger heavier tires. Why i upgraded my outcast to the v4 steering link retainers 👍 i recognize the wheel flop all too well hahaha
Nope, nothing broke, nothing popped off, just plastic flex.
-Brett
Damn tires look weird so out of porportion. Sorry, I'm ocd,
Smoked both lipos and my esc 1st run with these heavy and useless tires. Gear way down if you run this garbage.
Oh man, was your truck geared up to begin with? We didn't even thermal with stock gearing on our Kraton 6S. What kind of terrain were you driving in?
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies I was running my serpent truggy rtr. Stock pinion which most people upgrade to the 19t pinion. My fault for not gearing way down I guess plus they are just way too wide for the street.
@@AMain_Hobbies terrain was street, it smoked everything when I went offroad. In my opinion these are 5th scale tires. I'm thinking 2.8s are better for 8th scale.
you know balloning tires is science and you speedtesting belted tires is dumb
Isn’t it better to watch a free video than to take a chance (and alot of money) on something that may not be your best choice? This advice pertains to any part(s).