Sagging Duty Belt Fix
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Does your duty belt sag down on you and shift around while you are out trying to make a buck? Here is one solution you should look into!
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Velcro brand industiral hook and loop
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Uncle Mikes "mirage" basket weave duty belt
Uncle Mikes velcro inner duty belt
Police, Security, public safety, sheriffs, probation and parole officers have a hard enough time setting up their work every day carry (edc) in a way that is effective and comfortable while minimizing the interferences between all the necessary equipment. This video addresses one irritating problem, duty belt sag.
If you've ever had to set up and wear a duty belt you have likely had to deal with a sagging duty belt. There are many solutions out there right off the shelf. But, a little DIY adding of Velcro to your duty belt solves many of the problems that traditional solutions leave in their wake.
This is one method of one Police Field training officer (FTO).
NYPD has never heard of belt keepers 😂
Thanks for such a simple fix to such a common problem. I'm not a LEO but I've been trying to find a solution to my tactical belt which keeps on spinning around when i'm moving around. Thanks for the video again.
THANK YOU!!!
Just put on the strips on all 11 pieces of kit. Gonna try it tomorrow on Duty....
Congrat on the weiught loss!!
Be safe Brotha!!
Thanks man, I hope it works out for ya!
Thank you kind generous sir, you’ve helped me greatly. Now I can enjoy my uncle mikes duty belt, Velcro inner belt and my gear ( attachments ). Aside from that I can close my eyes and sleepy peaceful now that I have a solution.
Used this method myself.
The one down side is, the hooked side of the velcro tares up the belt loops on your uniform trousers.
You, sir, are a genius! Here I am watching the video, wondering where you were going with the video...but then you mentioned the back of the inside of the gear and instantly I knew and I thought to myself, why didn't I think of that! Thanks for pointing that out!
+Joshua Thomas you are welcome!
I do this as well...but I also use it on my uniforms. I apply the soft side to my shirt, and iron the back, causing the glue to soak through the material, and create a permanent adhesion. I apply contact cement to the pants, in the correct position, and stick the "rough" side to the belt line of the pants, creating a uniform that never comes untucked...kind of like the tactical "jumpsuits"... Just gotta be sure you have everything where you want it...or it gets uncomfortable after a couple of hours. But when you find the sweet spot, you have the "pressed" look the entire shift. You can readjust later in the shift when you call out to "drop off an item and do paperwork" at the station latrine...lol
+Lupus Venator ...and here I am doing videos like "you know you should probably polish your boots if you are going to day shift" lol
free field training Baby steps Brother, baby steps...lol. Oh, and being OCD doesn't hurt...lol
Dude I work Armed Security and always hated how my uniform bunches up even with shirt stays (I'm a stocky guy and got my uniform a bit more fitted as well) ..your a lifesaver!
@@lupusvenator4701 Can you explain this more? Did you iron the Velcro on the bottom of the shirt and the contact cement on the pants? Do you put the contact cement on the Velcro itself and how do you adjust it later? Doesn’t the contact cement make it not be able to be adjusted?
my brother in christ you are living in 2050
Great idea,will try this out. Two of our Private Patrol Guys are going through background for C.H.P. and a third is already in the academy.
I do this too, but I use the velcro strips. It does the same job and holds your gear in the spot you set it.
Where was this video 12 years ago? I'm stealing your tip and I'm going to implement it. Thanks.
+Darth vader it is here for the stealing. Enjoy!
I'll start of by saying I am not a big guy, roughly 5'7" 180 lbs. I was issued a velcro inner belt with my duty belt.... after month it found a home in my locker never to return to be waistline again. The velcro never stayed in place and made noise constantly.All that being said, the biggest issue was that the inner belt is way too thick and kept everything about a 1/4 inch or so off the body creating even more sag. It drove me nuts! So I bought a pair of tactical tailor suspenders ($50) and 5.11 zero g plates ($100). Problem solved. Cheers! Be safe brother!
+SirWhiteCrayon I used suspenders for many years. I'm a little guy, so the 1/4 inch never hurt me.
You are a God among insects. I really didn't want to spend the extra dough on these expensive belts from SafeLife Defense. Going to try this out today.
Thanks. Im going to try this.
It works good momentarily. It seems like once I sit in my car the belt sags down again. I think it’s just the weight of all the gear
I buy the Velcro rolls and cut them to what I need. Literally have Velcro everywhere and it works great!
I retired from law enforcement in 2005, and used a velcro outer duty belt, and inner belt. What i found over the years is that junk would clog up the velcro making it almost impossible to fully use the belt, even though the belt was still serviceable.
I have a husky/german shepherd, so half my life is devoted to removing dog hair from velcro and midnight navy uniforms.
Run the end of a nail file or small flathead screwdriver back and forth gently through the hook velcro, lifting crap up and allowing you to pull it free with your fingers, without damaging the hooks.
Leave the hook and loop pressed together when not in use, this prevents crap from getting into them in the first place.
Finally, a saddlery or the type of business which makes canvas covers for truck beds, patio furniture, hay covers etc, can unpick the stitching and sew new velcro onto a duty belt much more cheaply than replacing the belt.
I had to clean out the crap that got caught up in the hooks.
Thank you for this! I have this problem so bad...just ordered the belt and tape!
+chris m I will caution you on one drawback. The tighter you get the outer and inner belt together the harder it is to slide the duty belt around to weak hand draw. Depending on your physique, gear, and bug gun this might be an issue.
free field training it shouldn't be an issue, but thanks for the heads up! Great content as always. You should do a video on why cops have strain away from oc spray, and the many draw backs to using it. As well as the pros!
+chris m I'll look into that!
Wow works like a champ Life saver big time
I work private in-house unarmed solo security/nightwatch at an industrial facility in New Zealand.
Have used a dual-ply rigger's belt with cobra buckle up until now because it's visually less in-your-face and confrontational, and without a sidearm and mags, it suffices for the weight of radio, flashlight, rescue knife, key silencer/retractable lanyard.
This means threading my belt through trouser loops each day, pausing to thread pouches/holsters at the appropriate gaps between trouser loops.
However, the Blackhawk latex glove/pager pouch and First Aid kit I just purchased have EXTREMELY tight rubberized slits that will crush and destroy the hook velcro on the rigger's belt if I try to feed the belt through the rubber letterbox slit each morning.
Am I correct in saying that if I get something like the 5.11 Sierra Bravo duty belt, I no longer have to put the individual pouches and holsters on every morning?
I will just take the whole outer belt off with pouches still on it, hang it on a chair, and in the morning I simply feed the inner belt through my fresh trousers, wrap the outer belt around it, press it down against the velcro, close the buckle, close the belt keepers, and I'm good to go?
I know you know what I mean when I say that looking like Rambo Cop is not in my or my employer's perceived best interests, I can see that an inner/outer duty belt would have practical/tactical advantages, but just how much more visually imposing is a duty belt over a rigger's belt, when the number of pouches/holsters remains quite low?
Feedback appreciated, much of your channel content is more entertainment than practical in my role, but I found myself subscribing anyway.... aaaand I finally replaced my giant gold dress watch with a digital G-shock after your watch video recently made me objectively consider the impracticality of the big analog beast I have endured for four years, so thanks for that, the Casio is much more practical on the job.
Just a different point of view, but when I went through my training, they advised against this. This is because if your dominate hand/arm became injured, you would be unable to draw your weapon with that dominant hand. If you use only belt keepers, you have some play in the belt and, with your non-dominant hand, can pull your belt and twist it around to orient your firearm closer to non-dominant side. With a hook-and-loop tape method of securing the belt, it truly does lock it in place, and you simply can't move it.
Many people practice shooting with their non-dominant side, and even firearm manipulation, but sometime forget to consider the options for getting that firearm into your non-dominant hand in the first place.
We all train for the possibilities, and also consider the probabilities, of any given situation. Take it for what you will. You configure your load that best suits you and helps to make you the best LEO you can be. Just throwing out some more information that I've learned along the way.
I love all your videos. Keep up the good work!
+Michael Richardson An excellent point and a real consideration to take into account when setting up a belt.
I currently use velcro plus keepers. We do yearly training where I'm at with non dominant hand skills. While the Velcro makes it harder to yank around it is still doable. That is for me. Clearly everyone's body shape and level of strength will change this dynamic.
Also of note is that I've yet to meet anyone who has had their dominant hand shot in a gunfight and had to draw offhand to continue the fight. I have, however, been personally present for several gun grabs where the cops gun ended up slid around behind him because the belt wasn't secured to his body well enough. Luckily we had mass on our side and everything came out alright. This,I'm sure, is area dependent, I imagine a boarder patrol guy working down south would be far more likely to get hit in the hand than fight over his pistol.
One solution, and I would argue a better solution than yanking your belt around, is to have a "robust" backup gun that is easily drawn with the non dominant hand. This solves not only the wounded dominant hand problem but also solves gun grabs where you are pinned to the ground, encourages the carriage of a BUG that one can actually fight with and forces you to practice using a pistol with your non dominant hand on a daily basis, even if only manipulating the gun.
For OPSEC reasons my backup gun arrangement was deliberately left out of the video. Rest assured, it is "robust".
It is always great to hear other folks perspectives on these issues. Thanks for watching and keep those comments coming!
For that reason my belt is set up to wear I can access my firearm and intermediate weapons with both hands.....
+Michael Gaffney some of our brothers and sisters are a little larger in the midsection than you are I'm sure!
+free field training yea that's true, I thought of that but I didn't want to offend anyone lol
+Michael Gaffney Oh, I'm a doughnut eating pig I'm not going to be offended. Lol
Let's be honest, none of us are getting in better shape as we get older and we are all one good knee or back injury from being seriously out of shape.
It isn't such an insult though if it is true and relevant to safety. Getting to your gun with your off hand is a serious safety issue and worth talking about openly and honestly, even if it does ruffle some feathers. Guys need to be honest with themselves and their capabilities. They also need to actually try to do these things before the problem comes up on the street.
I am a state trooper but I'm only 10 no joke this has helped a lot
It seems so simple now!
I ordered the velcro tape but haven't set it up yet cause I'm a procrastinator. But now that i think about it... don't see how effective this would be. Your equipment would slide too far and once you have to belt on you can't adjust it to make you feel more comfortable.
Do you have a fix for everything sliding around? Maybe wrapping thin tape around your equipment so they don't slide?
So question I’m a armed security and my biggest problem is my mag case digging into my leg slash Groin out company police is the mags have to be from center on the non dominate hand side how do I fix the digging Becuse I can stand it for about five ours the. It’s just pan
Thanks .Good to know
I aim to please.
Hey can you do a review of the inner belt as well plz
Question- I recently switched from nylon to basketweave leather. I wear a inner belt that is 1 1/2” and the duty belt is 2”. I cannot get my leather belt keepers loose enough to snap together without struggling. Any suggestions on how to loosen or stretch my leather belt keepers?
Try shifting you're equipments inside more to have room to stretch the final side of the belt to tighten and into the loop. It helped my problem.
What do u know about ham radio?
And that thick ass inner belt with totally destroy non tac pant belt loops
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I'm using suspenders under my outer vest carrier. It has helped with back pain and sciatica issues but not completely. Have you found that a drop down holster would help? Thanks.
Any experience with Blauer guardian inner keeper belt? Flimsy stretch belt with Velcro, many reviews saying more comfortable than a rigid inner Velcro belt.
I have one now. Video will be upcoming.
I've heard about a new self defense round called the extreme penatrator round. It doesn't expand but it punches through windshields real well if you have a car coming at you. Could you list your opinion in another video? I'm having a hard time deciding wheather to use them.
+g wagner If you are using a standard service caliber (9mm and up) I don't see why you would want something that penetrates more for personal defense. If you are worried about glass I suggest a monolithic copper round.
Just decided to finally do this mod on my duty belt a few weeks before I graduate...god why did I wait so long
+interpol007 lol, I told ya!
I had a qestion what kind of duty belt is that and is it impersonation a security gaurd if a kid like me that is in a police explore dose a volunteer patrol at a apartment complex I mean I don't have any security patches on or I am not aresting people and I like your videos
+Michael Lopez I wouldn't advise being a pretend security guard. Depending on state law that could get you into considerable trouble.
free field training well I mean like I am an police explore cadet program I don't have patches and stuff on my vest or anything but I live in California it's just that the security company that patrols my apartment complex have been saying I am ampersnating a security gaurd I don't arest people or have a gun but I get what your saying
+Michael Lopez I can't tell you about the laws in California. I can tell you that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably a duck. Be careful.
Michael Lopez There’s plenty of people who work as “security” that neither have patches nor a guard card in CA. Although, I would advise you not to do volunteer patrols as you’re more likely to run into legality issues of getting involved and having to argue it out in court that you were “not looking for a fight”. If you want to be great help to the police / security, be a good witness. Also since you’re young (assuming bc explorers are young), your enthusiasm for LE is great, but don’t jeopardize your career field for something risky like what you’re proposing. Get that degree, get some mentors to prep you for LE, and stay in shape, and don’t get in trouble!
Good
What inner belt is this?
Michael Ayala probably one of the bianchi ones. 8105 or 7205
I’ve tried different underbelts and can’t seem to get it right. Whenever I buckle my outer belt to my inner Velcro belt, the inner belt bunches up every time and looks terrible. Maybe there is something I’m not doing right I’m not sure.
Tighten the inner belt a little and loosen the outer belt.
What brand is your inner belt? I've yet to find one that is sturdy enough to help with rigidity. Duty belt seems to sag due to weak and thin inner belt. Thank you for your input.
I honestly don't know, I bought it really cheap many years ago.
Awesome Thanks!
+derose2026 🍩☕👍
What style of belt clip is on your Taser holster? I looks like a Blade Tech clip, but I am not sure.
It is the standard that comes with the black hawk holster. Similar to a blade tech clip.
+Razor366D
It's the X26P holster.
what stores sell that kind of velcro stuff you have
Craft supply and some hardware stores. Home depot, Michaels, ace hardware, Lowes, Menard's, and the interwebs.
ok thanks man your awesome
i have a question can a 17 year old like myself be a security guard or would i have to go thought tranning
That would all depend on the laws of your state. As a general rule, you have to be 18 to work as an unarmed security guard who dosent drive a vehicle and 21 to be armed or drive. Many states have licensing and training requirements. Some have none.
Sites like this:
securityguardexchange.com/
Have listings of states and their requirements. However, I would independently verify the information.

Have you tried the 5.11 zero G plates?
+GraymanTactics I haven't yet. I am trying a backup brace now though.
You're a fucking genius
How about if duty belt is all leather ?
+Robert Cucolo but let keepers, lots of them. You could also try suspenders :
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Or a backup brace:ua-cam.com/video/lxI-nu3o7Qk/v-deo.html
They all have pluses and minuses.
I think my FTO watched this video before because he recommended all this to me.
This video is so old your fto might have watched it as a police explorer.
@@freefieldtraining hahahaha i wouldn't even be surprised if you turned out to be right 😂😂😂
Velcro starts to peel off in about a week
3M adhesion promoter. Wipe the area down with alcohol, apply the adhesion promoter and let it dry (well, tac dry), then apply the velcro. Going on 4 years since I did this and none of the velcro pieces have budged, let alone even think of coming off.
Heat the adhesive side of the velcro with a lighter or heat-gun until it's bubbling before you press it on. It ain't going anywhere after that. Also, clean the surface thoroughly with isopropyl alcohol or lighter fluid before attempting to glue anything to it. This method has kept a First Tactical document field organizer securely fastened to the lid of my 5.11 patrol bag (I can lift the bag and contents with the document organizer, and it takes a really good yank to peel it off), and it has also kept Go-Pro mounts secured to my mountainbike helmet, with heavy objects like cameras and lights in the mounts. If it can hold up to downhill mountain biking at night, where your head is whipping around like crazy lighting up the corners, lines, and hazards, it'll hold up to patrol use.