I think the Elites are one of the best headphones out there, and I never understood the reviews when it first came out because it did not mirror my experience. For open back flagships, it has the best bass and widest soundstage. A little sibilant in the 10khz range, and not a detail monster, but everything else about it is A+. Glad to see a later review like this giving it the praise it deserves!
I’m a long-time devotee to the Elite and have been enjoying them on both tubes and solid state amps for years. I just got a ZMF Aegis, and it has taken the Elite up yet another level from my Mjolnir 3 and Quicksilver Headphone Amp. I heartily agree that these headphones are the whole package once you find the right synergy.
Even with EQ the bass is below a $500 Hifiman, the pads dull the highs. Far better than the original Empyrean, but they were sonically pathetic so still ways to go. A pleasant listen, but unimpressive.
GM☕️ from Toronto . I hope to experience these at the upcoming Toronto Audiofest. These are for most people in this hobby/passion these are endgame. Thank you for this amazing review.
They look so gorgeous, to me the most beautiful ones with Atrium. You should keep them just for your Hitman night outfit on the hotel suite waiting for your date, with your black hair, sunglasses and black jacket the Elites are the lethal weapon till party arrives :P Now more seriously (I swear last comment was also serious), glad to see a re-review cause your journey in experience, taste and better products has evolved crazy in just 2 years.... but if they are not a recommended match with Ferrum sounds way to picky for mortals.
@@Isthare I think it’s essential to revisit a lot of products that claims to be a flagship things change. I agree. Equipment source equipment place such a big role, especially the higher you go up We have some of the most craziest reviews coming up in August just you wait and see LOL
Great video, as always! I am running my Meze Elite Tungsten from a Chord Hugo TT2, and my experience has been “OK” with the setup. I actually enjoy the pairing of my ZMF Verite Closed with the TT2 better. Your video has me looking into getting a tube headphone amp and running my TT2 in DAC-only mode to feed the headamp, in order to elevate my Meze Elites. The LTA Z10e has caught my eye, but I have no need for the electrostatic amp or the speaker amp, I just want a great headphone amp for my Meze Elite to get the same experience as you got here. Do you have any experience with the other LTA headamps like the MZ3 or the Velo, or is the Z10e recommended if just using for the Meze Elite?
@@Craftsman_Kevin in regards to the LTA not yet, but I’m trying to arrange to bring some of their other units in. I love their work. But in my opinion, tubes integration is the way to go for the elite it truly brings it alive
Got to the end of this video… 🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅 Daum 👍👍 So if you’ve got a good source chain there’s very little to stand in the way of a great performance.🎭 Have a great week.🍻
Just took posession of a Feliks Envy. I own the Utopia 22 and currently have the Susvara on demo. Can the Elite compete? I can't decide between the Utopia and Susvara. Think I need a middle ground as Utopia seem more engaging but Susvara more comfortable.
@@mobill49 the elite is always a bit of an outlier and a special headphone, ultra comfortable very laid-back very comfortable incredible base very good for a multitude of genres Extremely different from both of those headphones, but it’s one of them headphones that just does everything well I would say it’s competitor would be the utopia 2020 2SUS will always be the most technical in this category even now
@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks. The only way I can describe it is like this. The Utopia puts you in the middle of the music while the Sus presents it to you in front . Sometimes, I feel the Utopia can be a bit fatiguing due to it's upfront presentation and also comfort. I can listen to the Sus all day. If the Elite can get me most of the way there then I feel it'll suit me more, especially if it scales on the Envy.
@@mobill49 what I find very unusual is utopia 2022 being fatigue and it’s got a very laid-back sound, but you don’t have to worry, the elite is far more laid-back than both of those and it’s far bigger in its stage. It’s huge sounding.
@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks again. I may give the Elite's a punt then. I think I need musicality in the mid-range above all else and the soundstage will help that.👍🏻
@@c34webb I do apologise the tungsten DS has been taken its time, but there have been a lot of things in the background that we’re sorting out, the review has half been shot I just need to sit down and film the analysis, covering the lowest to the highest category of equipment, it’s going to be very in-depth. I am waiting on one more component, should be done soon.
@ConvinceMeAudio Damn Koji you got some IMPRESSIVE response time lol. Yeah I had a feeling you'd say that. I'm getting ready for my next Endgame purchase and really dug the Bravura and Elite but Caldera is one of the few I've never had a chance to try... that and AB-1266 PHI TC. I love my Stellia for its analytical and articulate sound. I know a few people have said Stellia isn't all that great for a clear reference sound but I honestly hear more nuances with it than I do with LCD-5 and Utopia which is kinda nuts. For my next one I just to get enveloped by the music. Not necessarily caring about the realness of the tone or how transparent and clear it is, like a Susvara, I just wanna get lost in it emotionally no matter what I'm listening to
@@MrJ.31 cheers, it’s appreciated, being developed in a headphone where it utterly disappears might be best to start looking into the chain and rediscover the collection of headphones you have now, rather than keep changing drivers, what system are you running at the moment because once you get to the top level, what happens is the headphones disappear? I recommend keeping SOS, and maybe looking if you’re at that category at a red October. Aic WA 33, these monsters of the industry there are gonna be reviews coming hold on till the end of September because what the channel is gonna do is gonna be insane just wait and
@@ConvinceMeAudio Do Elites hit as hard as Caldera in the bass region? I already have Empyrean 2, so i'm thinking to give ZMF a try. Atrium is also tempting, but i would like for a second pair to be more resolving then the Empyrean 2 (not laser resolving), just to have a better sense of details. That's where i think Empyrean 2 is lacking a bit, for example for Metal music.
@@leodebois9880 in this hobby, where there are a Marriott of equipment to test with Headphones and speakers et cetera and synergy plays such a big role, if somebody is not willing to listen and experiment and discover, you should be very worried
I think the Elites are one of the best headphones out there, and I never understood the reviews when it first came out because it did not mirror my experience. For open back flagships, it has the best bass and widest soundstage. A little sibilant in the 10khz range, and not a detail monster, but everything else about it is A+. Glad to see a later review like this giving it the praise it deserves!
@@maynardewm I think it comes down to unlocking it’s potential, and most people even in reviews don’t
It needs tubes something exceptional like LTA
I’m a long-time devotee to the Elite and have been enjoying them on both tubes and solid state amps for years. I just got a ZMF Aegis, and it has taken the Elite up yet another level from my Mjolnir 3 and Quicksilver Headphone Amp. I heartily agree that these headphones are the whole package once you find the right synergy.
Even with EQ the bass is below a $500 Hifiman, the pads dull the highs. Far better than the original Empyrean, but they were sonically pathetic so still ways to go. A pleasant listen, but unimpressive.
With EQ the Elite has an high potential. Total disagree. Only Susvara beats the Elite's bass in all the Hifiman line to me.
GM☕️ from Toronto .
I hope to experience these at the upcoming Toronto Audiofest.
These are for most people in this hobby/passion these are endgame.
Thank you for this amazing review.
They look so gorgeous, to me the most beautiful ones with Atrium.
You should keep them just for your Hitman night outfit on the hotel suite waiting for your date, with your black hair, sunglasses and black jacket the Elites are the lethal weapon till party arrives :P
Now more seriously (I swear last comment was also serious), glad to see a re-review cause your journey in experience, taste and better products has evolved crazy in just 2 years.... but if they are not a recommended match with Ferrum sounds way to picky for mortals.
@@Isthare I think it’s essential to revisit a lot of products that claims to be a flagship things change. I agree.
Equipment source equipment place such a big role, especially the higher you go up
We have some of the most craziest reviews coming up in August just you wait and see LOL
@@ConvinceMeAudio Can't wait for it!
You had me at saving a puppy ❤
Great video, as always! I am running my Meze Elite Tungsten from a Chord Hugo TT2, and my experience has been “OK” with the setup. I actually enjoy the pairing of my ZMF Verite Closed with the TT2 better. Your video has me looking into getting a tube headphone amp and running my TT2 in DAC-only mode to feed the headamp, in order to elevate my Meze Elites. The LTA Z10e has caught my eye, but I have no need for the electrostatic amp or the speaker amp, I just want a great headphone amp for my Meze Elite to get the same experience as you got here. Do you have any experience with the other LTA headamps like the MZ3 or the Velo, or is the Z10e recommended if just using for the Meze Elite?
@@Craftsman_Kevin in regards to the LTA not yet, but I’m trying to arrange to bring some of their other units in. I love their work.
But in my opinion, tubes integration is the way to go for the elite it truly brings it alive
Got to the end of this video…
🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅 Daum 👍👍
So if you’ve got a good source chain there’s very little to stand in the way of a great performance.🎭
Have a great week.🍻
Hi! As always badass review! 💥 I'm between this Meze Elite or Modhouse Tungsten, which do you like the most!? Thanks for your reply. 🙌
I think you will have a far easier time of it with these tungsten DS. You need to really consider your chain you need so much voltage and headroom.
Just took posession of a Feliks Envy. I own the Utopia 22 and currently have the Susvara on demo. Can the Elite compete? I can't decide between the Utopia and Susvara. Think I need a middle ground as Utopia seem more engaging but Susvara more comfortable.
@@mobill49 the elite is always a bit of an outlier and a special headphone, ultra comfortable very laid-back very comfortable incredible base very good for a multitude of genres
Extremely different from both of those headphones, but it’s one of them headphones that just does everything well
I would say it’s competitor would be the utopia 2020 2SUS will always be the most technical in this category even now
@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks. The only way I can describe it is like this. The Utopia puts you in the middle of the music while the Sus presents it to you in front . Sometimes, I feel the Utopia can be a bit fatiguing due to it's upfront presentation and also comfort. I can listen to the Sus all day. If the Elite can get me most of the way there then I feel it'll suit me more, especially if it scales on the Envy.
@@mobill49 what I find very unusual is utopia 2022 being fatigue and it’s got a very laid-back sound, but you don’t have to worry, the elite is far more laid-back than both of those and it’s far bigger in its stage. It’s huge sounding.
@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks again. I may give the Elite's a punt then. I think I need musicality in the mid-range above all else and the soundstage will help that.👍🏻
Would love to hear these side by side with my hd800’s
yea I wonder if its better than my 6XX 😅
Lucky SEVENTH! 🎉
How about a Tungsten vs Tungsten showdown?
@@c34webb I do apologise the tungsten DS has been taken its time, but there have been a lot of things in the background that we’re sorting out, the review has half been shot
I just need to sit down and film the analysis, covering the lowest to the highest category of equipment, it’s going to be very in-depth. I am waiting on one more component, should be done soon.
@@ConvinceMeAudio Love it! I know you had the SS so looking forward to the DS
Bella/Linda.💓✡️✡️✡️✡️✡️✡️
My main thing is trying to figure if the Elite sounds as good or better than Caldera
@@MrJ.31 znf CAL yields more results on a more variety of equipment TBF
@ConvinceMeAudio Damn Koji you got some IMPRESSIVE response time lol. Yeah I had a feeling you'd say that. I'm getting ready for my next Endgame purchase and really dug the Bravura and Elite but Caldera is one of the few I've never had a chance to try... that and AB-1266 PHI TC. I love my Stellia for its analytical and articulate sound. I know a few people have said Stellia isn't all that great for a clear reference sound but I honestly hear more nuances with it than I do with LCD-5 and Utopia which is kinda nuts. For my next one I just to get enveloped by the music. Not necessarily caring about the realness of the tone or how transparent and clear it is, like a Susvara, I just wanna get lost in it emotionally no matter what I'm listening to
@@MrJ.31 cheers, it’s appreciated, being developed in a headphone where it utterly disappears might be best to start looking into the chain and rediscover the collection of headphones you have now, rather than keep changing drivers, what system are you running at the moment because once you get to the top level, what happens is the headphones disappear? I recommend keeping SOS, and maybe looking if you’re at that category at a red October. Aic WA 33, these monsters of the industry there are gonna be reviews coming hold on till the end of September because what the channel is gonna do is gonna be insane just wait and
Have you tried Elite with Riviera AIC10? Any improvements over the LTA Z10E?
@@alexismasset more weight on aic
bigger stage on LTA can’t go far wrong both exceptional AIC more technical buy a small margin
Meze Elite or ZMF Caldera for SS stack?
@@varbane hmmm cal yields quicker results I think
@@ConvinceMeAudio Do Elites hit as hard as Caldera in the bass region? I already have Empyrean 2, so i'm thinking to give ZMF a try. Atrium is also tempting, but i would like for a second pair to be more resolving then the Empyrean 2 (not laser resolving), just to have a better sense of details. That's where i think Empyrean 2 is lacking a bit, for example for Metal music.
@@varbane no more like subwoofer implementation
Quite a change of opinion with all respect. "Wait guys, these actually scale and then they sound good." Hm..
@@Berkanann Yes, and it needs tubes to unlock really
It's honest. Many people would have that honesty👍 The hearing changes with experiments. It s okay to open oneself to change.
@@leodebois9880 in this hobby, where there are a Marriott of equipment to test with Headphones and speakers et cetera and synergy plays such a big role, if somebody is not willing to listen and experiment and discover, you should be very worried
Meze lovers, I'm still selling my very rare Elite Chameleon 😊
The b-roll in the beginning looks beautiful. But the editing makes me dizzy.
I saw tungsten and automatically thought modhouse
One will do that, though these came first
Please review sony mdr z1r and denon ah-d7200
You lost me at Billie Eilish
@@StukaUK lol m.key
@@ConvinceMeAudio 😅 she actually has got great recordings, well mastered with heavy bass notes
Please take off your sunglasses - or is there a medical reason?
There beautiful, but they need to sound good too
The technical performance was too flawed for me.