Pro8mm is a quality company. I’ve used them to develop every roll of Super 8 I’ve shot. And I plan to continue doing business with them when I start shooting Super 16.
I have now received my second block of super 8 back from pro 8... and it is just a amazing format,, they project so beautifully,,, and it makes new things look so old and cool.... I love it... my cheap eBay camera ended up working perfectly... best 15 bucks I have ever spent...
Thanks a LOT Noah ! Due to you plugging Super 8 I accidentally ordered an 814XL and now I’m gonna be visiting your friends in the valley. Thinking i might get some expired stock to test with before i get fresh film. Ill have them develop test roll and if it needs work have them check it out and maybe the old Revere too. A new rabbit hole to throw money in !
I own many big Super8 cams but this is my choice for travelling with low weight. Great stuff for a tiny thing although I prefer the original 310XL than the expensive modified Ronda. Some of the videos in my channel were shot with the 310XL.
Got myself a working Bauer S207 XL and it too got a macro lens. Funny part is, the macro gets as crazy as to the point where you can focus to the lens itself so you’d be able to see the dust on the lens even. Gotta love that cam
I wish Kodak would just ditch all the "features" on their imaginary super 8 camera, like the digital screen etc, and just release a classic super 8 camera. The price would be bearable, it would be easy to use and they'd probably sell more.
True story, when I bought my first super 8 camera, I was considering the Rhonda cam, but was put off by the high pricetag, and convinced that even if I ended up buying a few used ones, I would get one that worked for a better price. I ended up buying the canon 310 xl, unknowing that it was the same camera, and having forgotten how the Rhondacam looked. Only later, I discovered the connection.
* Honestly, you should really put the camera on a tripod for any sort of quality test.... The shaking of handheld takes away from the potential resolution by slightly smearing still objects in the frames.... Otherwise, nice work.
Thanks for sharing! Been looking forward to seeing some Super8 given some of the teasing in other videos :) Also the staple "imaginary camera" comment was solid! (Since it's imaginary and built on hopes and dreams I'm hoping to see such a design in 16mm since options seem to be really limited there in the non-professional space)
Were the 200T shots around the 9 minute mark scanned as the "Best Light" scans? Sending my super 8 film to Pro8mm this week and trying to decide on scanning.
I lucked out and bought a Canon 310XL about 6 years ago for $25 on eBay. It's in brand new, perfect condition. I love shooting it and Pro8 did a fantastic job with the processing and scanning. I wish I could shoot it more but $100 + for film, dev and 2k scan is more than I can justify. 3+ minutes. :(.
@@vybanks113 I bought off eBay a few years back. I’m sure most of the good ones have been bought up by everyone including Pro8. What I see now on eBay is expensive or for parts only. Might be best to not gamble and just buy the Guaranteed to work, Rhonda cam. Good luck in your search!
Please please please could you do any sort of review on a Braun Nizo Super 8 camera? I have the S-480 model and I can’t ever find a good video to watch and learn from. I watched your video about swapping super 8 film between shooting where you used a Braun Nizo, but I would really love to learn lots about this camera in particular.
Might have to check them out, I’m in Hollywood so close by. I have an old Revere 8mm that my family used in 50s I need to get fixed. Should be a box for you today or tomorrow, says it “arrived at facility” on tracking. Maybe that means PO Box? Keep up the good work!
I bought me a Rhonda Cam last week. The only thing I haven't found out yet is if it works with Ektachrome 100D reversal film. I usually prefer Ektachrome, because I like watching it on my parents old super 8 projector.
I noticed on their website in the description it says that the Rhonda is calibrated to work with modern negative stock, and I noticed thats what you used for your test as well. Does that mean it will not work with reversal type film or that it won’t be “as good” as using negative?
It'll work with both negative and reversal stocks equally well. Being calibrated for negative film means that it can read all the different ISOs that the Pro8mm negative stocks use, which have been part of the Super-8 spec since the beginning. The original Canon 310XL the Rhonda Cam is based on only handles ISO 40 and ISO 160 because at the time Kodachrome 40 and Ektachrome 160, Plus-X (ISO 100) and Tri-X (ISO 200, but read as 160) were the only films out there. The Rhonda Cam will expose all of them correctly.
I love Super 8 too. But so much footage online is terrible because it isn't stabilised. I hope Kodak can give us OIS in their imaginary camera. Maybe they could incorporate a Micro 4/3 mount.
I'm still waiting too! I feel like maybe some independent engineers/camera buffs need to start a Kickstarter campaign to build an equivalent - and at the price Kodak were originally promising...
Really enjoy your channel. Cool gear and reviews. How about a Depth of Field adapter and a Canon 35mm f1.4 lenses in front of this baby ? Like we used to see for older standard def mini DV video cameras.
Analog Resurgence That big brick building without windows seriously looks like an old neighborhood theater. Probably gutted if someone else is in there but it might be worth checking out!
These days, you're going to pay upwards of $600 for a camera that is supposed to be in working condition. Going cheaper means you're mostly going to buying a camera that may or may not work. Most likely, it won't work. So, having Pro8mm refurbish the cameras like this and selling them is good. As far as Kodak's camera goes, it's pretty much vaporware. Looks good in the promotion but never really turns up IRL. IF it turns up, will it priced out of the range of most people's pockets? More than likely and so Kodak would do another disservice to the film community. Instead of making a good camera for everyone to buy and use, they think of the hip pocket nerve and the shareholders first before anything else. Funny thing is a good and reasonably priced camera would make them more money and keep the industry alive than a vaporware marvel.
K like wow so pretty disappointed that you actually got images out of this camera, i came to this youtube channel purely to watch you shoot obsolesced technology and have zero results because obviously when you use old technology its not gonna work, like consider a youtube channel that just a guy using old cell phones in a few years, digital insurgency could be the channels name....wow wouldn't that be cool. Turn off your controller bro...unsubscribed. XOXOXOXOXOXOX k byeeee
I love film photography, but I don't get the point of Super 8 in 2020. You can have moving images that are 2 million times better than this with a cheap phone camera, and at a neglegible cost. Why burn so much money for a short nostalgia trip? Love your show, will be sending some stuff soon, you'll like it. I hope 😊
I'm RHONDA and I approve this message. AMAZING JOB!
Nice 👍🏽
Your like the Rhonda, Rhonda?
Nice.
i don't know why, but i wasn't expecting Austin McConnell in this comments section
Wow I was literally just watching your videos then i find you on here! UA-cam is a small world lol
King
I can't believe that I would see 2 gods of UA-cam on the same page. Love u guys both!
Pro8mm is a quality company. I’ve used them to develop every roll of Super 8 I’ve shot. And I plan to continue doing business with them when I start shooting Super 16.
I have now received my second block of super 8 back from pro 8... and it is just a amazing format,, they project so beautifully,,, and it makes new things look so old and cool.... I love it... my cheap eBay camera ended up working perfectly... best 15 bucks I have ever spent...
Thanks a LOT Noah ! Due to you plugging Super 8 I accidentally ordered an 814XL and now I’m gonna be visiting your friends in the valley. Thinking i might get some expired stock to test with before i get fresh film. Ill have them develop test roll and if it needs work have them check it out and maybe the old Revere too. A new rabbit hole to throw money in !
I own many big Super8 cams but this is my choice for travelling with low weight. Great stuff for a tiny thing although I prefer the original 310XL than the expensive modified Ronda. Some of the videos in my channel were shot with the 310XL.
Got myself a working Bauer S207 XL and it too got a macro lens. Funny part is, the macro gets as crazy as to the point where you can focus to the lens itself so you’d be able to see the dust on the lens even. Gotta love that cam
I wish Kodak would just ditch all the "features" on their imaginary super 8 camera, like the digital screen etc, and just release a classic super 8 camera. The price would be bearable, it would be easy to use and they'd probably sell more.
Ha! I take my Super 8 film there to develop! I'm glad they reached out to you for this!
True story, when I bought my first super 8 camera, I was considering the Rhonda cam, but was put off by the high pricetag, and convinced that even if I ended up buying a few used ones, I would get one that worked for a better price. I ended up buying the canon 310 xl, unknowing that it was the same camera, and having forgotten how the Rhondacam looked. Only later, I discovered the connection.
Would you recommend getting the Canon 310XL instead of the rhonda then? Where did you buy it?
Geez ... Super 8mm film has been so important to me ... but at this time its way too expensive for me! Another great video! Cheers Chum xxx
Surprised no 24fps and no built in crystal sync.
EDIT: That 50asa stock looks wonderful. Really saturated colors.
No 24fps would put me off. The picture quality increases greatly at 24fps. 😊
* Honestly, you should really put the camera on a tripod for any sort of quality test.... The shaking of handheld takes away from the potential resolution by slightly smearing still objects in the frames.... Otherwise, nice work.
Great stuff! The quality is awesome. Informative as ever. I got that book too and will be discussing it on my channel soon.
Thanks for sharing! Been looking forward to seeing some Super8 given some of the teasing in other videos :) Also the staple "imaginary camera" comment was solid! (Since it's imaginary and built on hopes and dreams I'm hoping to see such a design in 16mm since options seem to be really limited there in the non-professional space)
Using Nizo 6080 with great results.50D-200T kodak👍😉🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
so helpful! thanks a lot for this video
Were the 200T shots around the 9 minute mark scanned as the "Best Light" scans? Sending my super 8 film to Pro8mm this week and trying to decide on scanning.
I was inspired to shoot Regular 8 by your video: and I bought the same camera. It's really nice.
I lucked out and bought a Canon 310XL about 6 years ago for $25 on eBay. It's in brand new, perfect condition. I love shooting it and Pro8 did a fantastic job with the processing and scanning. I wish I could shoot it more but $100 + for film, dev and 2k scan is more than I can justify. 3+ minutes. :(.
Would you recommend getting the Canon 310XL instead of the rhonda then? Where did you buy it?
@@vybanks113 I bought off eBay a few years back. I’m sure most of the good ones have been bought up by everyone including Pro8. What I see now on eBay is expensive or for parts only. Might be best to not gamble and just buy the Guaranteed to work, Rhonda cam. Good luck in your search!
@@RonEMarks Thank you!
Please please please could you do any sort of review on a Braun Nizo Super 8 camera? I have the S-480 model and I can’t ever find a good video to watch and learn from. I watched your video about swapping super 8 film between shooting where you used a Braun Nizo, but I would really love to learn lots about this camera in particular.
nice leg shot
Might have to check them out, I’m in Hollywood so close by. I have an old Revere 8mm that my family used in 50s I need to get fixed. Should be a box for you today or tomorrow, says it “arrived at facility” on tracking. Maybe that means PO Box? Keep up the good work!
I just got it today and it’s amazing!!!
8mm looks great (when in focus). Why do you use viewfinder without your glasses? I have to use glasses with my SLR to get things in focus
I was wondering the same things, if I use a SLR without my glasses all of my shots will be out of focus. If I wear my glasses it comes out tack sharp.
You should be able to adjust the eye piece per your vision.
Super 8 may not be HD but it does have its charm!
Thiago Dias you can have scanned properly and have results that look like 16mm film
I bought me a Rhonda Cam last week. The only thing I haven't found out yet is if it works with Ektachrome 100D reversal film. I usually prefer Ektachrome, because I like watching it on my parents old super 8 projector.
As I understand it, Pro8mm alters the ISO of their cameras to work with modern film stocks.
Great Video :)
Thank you for your video. Can I ask you what gear you used to shot a video of you playing with a super 8 outside?
Hectic to see the Don Valley and Riverdale Park (?) on Super 8
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*cough* *cough* kodak *cough* *cough*
is this super 8 footage color corrected or did you buy the super 8 with the rec709 already done
Our next project will be Super 8!
I want to shoot more Super 8. I want to shoot a lot more Super 8. I want to make a movie on Super 8. I need it to not cost 60+ dollars per roll.
Are those rolls of film not sealed or something?? They just seem to be in plastic and not in a wrapper.
The cartridge is just loose in the plastic which is sealed up so it's not much concern really.
have you tested this camera at night? Or in the evening?
I noticed on their website in the description it says that the Rhonda is calibrated to work with modern negative stock, and I noticed thats what you used for your test as well. Does that mean it will not work with reversal type film or that it won’t be “as good” as using negative?
It'll work with both negative and reversal stocks equally well. Being calibrated for negative film means that it can read all the different ISOs that the Pro8mm negative stocks use, which have been part of the Super-8 spec since the beginning. The original Canon 310XL the Rhonda Cam is based on only handles ISO 40 and ISO 160 because at the time Kodachrome 40 and Ektachrome 160, Plus-X (ISO 100) and Tri-X (ISO 200, but read as 160) were the only films out there.
The Rhonda Cam will expose all of them correctly.
I love Super 8 too. But so much footage online is terrible because it isn't stabilised. I hope Kodak can give us OIS in their imaginary camera. Maybe they could incorporate a Micro 4/3 mount.
You can stabilize it fairly easy in Premiere Pro.
$600!?! 😱 Almost choked. Would have expected 24fps option for that. Makes it much easier to transfer to Blu-ray's.
Pretty sure Pro8mm found you from yt... lmao
Yet I'm still waiting for Kodak super 8
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Work with the Elmo Super 8 myself actually which won me three awards at the Pro8mm festival. But yeah super 8 are great cameras
I'm still waiting too! I feel like maybe some independent engineers/camera buffs need to start a Kickstarter campaign to build an equivalent - and at the price Kodak were originally promising...
Really enjoy your channel.
Cool gear and reviews.
How about a Depth of Field adapter and a Canon 35mm f1.4 lenses in front of this baby ? Like we used to see for older standard def mini DV video cameras.
Does it record audio or did you add that in in post?
Super 8 film made today cannot hold audio!
Needs IBIS 😁
Do you live next to the remnants of an old movie theater?
I wish
Analog Resurgence That big brick building without windows seriously looks like an old neighborhood theater. Probably gutted if someone else is in there but it might be worth checking out!
first second third and fifth
doubt
@@wintersole4916 holyshit you are absolutely right how could i not have noticed that
These days, you're going to pay upwards of $600 for a camera that is supposed to be in working condition. Going cheaper means you're mostly going to buying a camera that may or may not work. Most likely, it won't work. So, having Pro8mm refurbish the cameras like this and selling them is good. As far as Kodak's camera goes, it's pretty much vaporware. Looks good in the promotion but never really turns up IRL. IF it turns up, will it priced out of the range of most people's pockets? More than likely and so Kodak would do another disservice to the film community. Instead of making a good camera for everyone to buy and use, they think of the hip pocket nerve and the shareholders first before anything else. Funny thing is a good and reasonably priced camera would make them more money and keep the industry alive than a vaporware marvel.
focus not good
K like wow so pretty disappointed that you actually got images out of this camera, i came to this youtube channel purely to watch you shoot obsolesced technology and have zero results because obviously when you use old technology its not gonna work, like consider a youtube channel that just a guy using old cell phones in a few years, digital insurgency could be the channels name....wow wouldn't that be cool. Turn off your controller bro...unsubscribed. XOXOXOXOXOXOX k byeeee
I love film photography, but I don't get the point of Super 8 in 2020. You can have moving images that are 2 million times better than this with a cheap phone camera, and at a neglegible cost. Why burn so much money for a short nostalgia trip?
Love your show, will be sending some stuff soon, you'll like it. I hope 😊
That applies to everything though, why shoot any film at all? Because people want to!
Analog Resurgence Amen
because it's physical film