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  • @rottenavocado7647
    @rottenavocado7647 7 місяців тому +853

    The constant acquiring and then reluctantly selling Blinding Flash cycle is quite amusing

    • @cinex20
      @cinex20 7 місяців тому +88

      He'll get it back, after all.

    • @IDESTROYER236
      @IDESTROYER236 7 місяців тому +63

      One must imagine Haelian happy.

    • @jprunsfunny
      @jprunsfunny 7 місяців тому +32

      It's the game trying (and mostly failing) to remind Haelian what the actual name of the boon is.

  • @jameshuntington8644
    @jameshuntington8644 7 місяців тому +278

    Hearing Haelian have so much FUN with dad fight is a testament to how much longevity this game has. Years later of constant play and you're still enjoying yourself!

  • @johnpetrila4823
    @johnpetrila4823 7 місяців тому +206

    This was the build I used to get my first EM4 clear ever; there's something deeply cathartic about being able to just rip through a run with Merciful End and not even worry about dying as long as you don't egregiously misplay. Love it when the stars align on a run like this.

  • @shionwild4319
    @shionwild4319 3 місяці тому +32

    Watching him get merciful end in tartarus while I've been struggling to get boons to cooperate for a fresh file run is so painfully aggrivating

  • @lil_sushiwill2916
    @lil_sushiwill2916 7 місяців тому +141

    I actually got SUCH a similar run yesterday just on 16 heat with basically the same set up as you and I got a new PB!!! It was 12:36 I am really proud it.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  7 місяців тому +26

      Congrats!

  • @Nat_the_Chicken
    @Nat_the_Chicken 7 місяців тому +40

    Haelian at the beginning of the run: Yeah Underworld Customs is basically free heat
    Haelian for the entire rest of the run: Ugh I guess we gotta sell this thing I really like having

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  7 місяців тому +30

      I guess you could say I got Exposed

    • @Nat_the_Chicken
      @Nat_the_Chicken 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Haelian b-dum KSHHHH

  • @qoopertrooper
    @qoopertrooper 5 місяців тому +66

    To quote Grouse "My wife said it was her or the dodge build, God I miss her".

    • @black7594
      @black7594 3 дні тому

      I have a 60% chance to dodge bullets but not a 60% chance to dodge alimony

  • @Naughtydoge
    @Naughtydoge 7 місяців тому +38

    Just cleared my first 32 heat run based off this run! Been trying all week with several other builds, but got it done first attempt with this. Thank you!

    • @Naughtydoge
      @Naughtydoge 7 місяців тому +3

      Oh and first EM4 clear!!!

  • @kevinlloyd3047
    @kevinlloyd3047 7 місяців тому +42

    For impending doom poms, it’s important to compare the pommed doom + ID to the current doom + pommed ID.

    • @lucasnetodafonseca6268
      @lucasnetodafonseca6268 15 днів тому

      yep, that final choice of 5% or 5 flat was wrong, would have gotten more pomming the attack

  • @SabrinatheMindfreak
    @SabrinatheMindfreak 7 місяців тому +16

    I love running the doom fists with lots of athena, especially with the lambent plume. It's so fun and feels so good.

  • @user-kl8cf4he3w
    @user-kl8cf4he3w 7 місяців тому +16

    Damn I watched your hades runs two years ago. Now I am replaying the game and its nice to see you are still here. Your videos are fun as always!

  • @Dazdigo
    @Dazdigo 7 місяців тому +19

    The Lambent Plume is OP. It was surprised how OP I was in the later levels when it is nearly maxed out.

  • @scrumptiousbisquitz1140
    @scrumptiousbisquitz1140 7 місяців тому +32

    Yayyyy, the throat clearance

    • @MrMikopi
      @MrMikopi 7 місяців тому +2

      Thinking about it makes me clear my throat too

  • @justarandomdood
    @justarandomdood 7 місяців тому +18

    Enjoying the offline videos as much as the streamed material, its fun listening to you talk like this
    Also LMFAO immediately getting the ME prerequisites without either Ares or Athena keepsakes, I'm very excited for the rest of this video 😂 I've only cleared 32 Heat 3 times and all 3 were with ME Fists of some kind (it's just so satisfying!), but usually I go with Gilgamesh and Ruthless Reflex because you still get 3 dashes minimum

  • @normal6483
    @normal6483 Місяць тому +1

    17:50 According to Wikipedia, Heelys were patented in 1999. Which makes sense to me; I'm 30 years old and I remember Heelys being out when I was in elementary school. I got a pair and they sucked; the wheels were too small to balance on, so your shoe would always scrap against the ground and destroy your momentum. They fell out of favor for a while, and then recently it seems like they've made a comeback.

  • @buttermoth5861
    @buttermoth5861 5 місяців тому +7

    Got my first 32 heat clear with this. Funniest run I’ve ever played through

    • @buttermoth5861
      @buttermoth5861 5 місяців тому +1

      Didn’t even get merciful end by the hades fight lmao

  • @charlessmith8131
    @charlessmith8131 7 місяців тому +5

    This was how I got my first ever 32 heat em4 clear. I got all dodge boons you had, but I had a epic version of hermes dodge boon. I also had smoldering air so after one call I dodged everything.

  • @venusdevotea9378
    @venusdevotea9378 25 днів тому

    loving these videos, just got into hades and I'm LOVING IT! i just cleared the main story (getting persephone back into hades) and honestly i turned on god mode after that bc i want to get to the rest of the story without the increased difficulty of all the higher heat runs. thanks for all these guides and cool builds that keep the game fun!

  • @MrEdwardpullman
    @MrEdwardpullman 7 місяців тому +7

    The 32 heat pact you chose is one I've run hundreds of times with Lambent plumb. ❤ the merciful end or crazy lightning runs are def my favs

  • @Professor_Wisteria_
    @Professor_Wisteria_ 7 місяців тому +13

    Plume on Fists is such a hilarious oxymoron but if you simply channel your inner Ali then it works MIRACLES

    • @RancorousSea
      @RancorousSea 6 місяців тому +1

      New god of CTE incoming

  • @patrickharvey.6000
    @patrickharvey.6000 6 місяців тому +3

    ''thats it'' the anger is felt brother lol

  • @the_dennator7723
    @the_dennator7723 7 місяців тому +5

    there's chambers and encounters,the well items deplete uopn an encounter (except hydralite) and the plume/butterfly upon clearing a chamber
    most chambers are also encountersbut the exception are:
    -shops are chambers but not encounters
    -safe rooms are chambers
    -styx rooms are encounters but not chambers
    -erebus I don't know

  • @aradraugfea6755
    @aradraugfea6755 6 місяців тому +3

    Hades' plan backfired. Killed Zag so many times, he became an immaterial shade!

  • @whackaB
    @whackaB 6 місяців тому +4

    Blinding flash is William Afton confirmed?? (It always comes back)

  • @lemmingrad
    @lemmingrad 6 місяців тому +2

    Iirc, Mighty Max started out as a toyline, the boys version of Polly Pocket basically, then was made into a TV show to also sell more of those toys.

  • @sideswipejinyoxP
    @sideswipejinyoxP 2 місяці тому +2

    Mighty Max was a tv show and set of toys as an opposite of Polly Pocket to reach the boy market back then. Lol

  • @Malacite
    @Malacite 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow that's insane.
    Bought the game finally about a week ago maybe ? Can't put it down, absolutely love it finished the Epilogue today.
    Not a fan of some of the PoP modifiers and there's some annoying inconsistency when trying to get multiple boons from the same God (I feel like they could have added a PoP for that) but overall just such a great game.
    I am kinda sad there is no "Endless" mode option, so far as I know at least like Slay the Spire has where every time you beat the final boss it adds a stacking curse and sends you back to the first level with everything you had.
    No options for doing custom runs or daily challenges either, hopefully stuff being considered for Hades 2.

  • @NianJKL
    @NianJKL 7 місяців тому +5

    I guess my favorite toy as a kid was a spawn toy. He was my favorite he had a cape and everything sadly I lost him at a beach somewhere and my parents made me leave before I could find it.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  7 місяців тому +2

      omg

    • @pumbaa667
      @pumbaa667 7 місяців тому +1

      Press F to pay respect

  • @dreithen8693
    @dreithen8693 5 місяців тому +1

    I do the same thing for this run with ruthless reflex, i get lucky a lot of times with this build and get an epic or rare greatest reflex and it fixes the problem of needing extra dashes and makes it easier to activate ruthless reflex

  • @TarnishedGoose
    @TarnishedGoose 7 місяців тому +7

    hell yeah nice throat clear i feel contented and at home
    p.s. throat clear 8/10

  • @Andytron5000
    @Andytron5000 7 місяців тому +2

    Haven't seen Merciful End show up in a while. I remember when that was THE Hyper Delivery race meta. Did you ever do a video of ME on Zeus Shield? That's a fun build and you don't need the dash.

  • @biiyen8458
    @biiyen8458 2 місяці тому +1

    Zag when he got Boons from Ultra Instinct Goku

  • @jonathansiegel435
    @jonathansiegel435 7 місяців тому +1

    I didn't expect my Blinding Flash drinking game to be such a big mistake...

  • @Boosteradidas
    @Boosteradidas 6 місяців тому +3

    It seems like deflecting with athena dash might count as a "near-miss". Not sure though.

  • @nutmeg3647
    @nutmeg3647 5 місяців тому +1

    Zagreus has mastered Ultra Instinct

  • @viviblue7277
    @viviblue7277 4 дні тому +1

    I expected dodge chance to have diminishing returns otherwise 100% dodge chance just equals invincibility.

  • @lukeliu113
    @lukeliu113 6 місяців тому +1

    Casually get the best combo at the first floor lol

  • @theHUMANAUT1
    @theHUMANAUT1 6 місяців тому +1

    This is my fave build

  • @FTCoconutman
    @FTCoconutman 7 місяців тому +3

    highlighting the throat clear... XD

  • @witherslayer8673
    @witherslayer8673 5 місяців тому +1

    the sans run... lol

  • @magusto627
    @magusto627 3 місяці тому +1

    This is simply frustrating as I am starting to play and struggle so much hahaha

  • @GordonGordon
    @GordonGordon 7 місяців тому +1

    Are you able to do this with a dio build? I guess you want ares and aphro duo boons also...

  • @plaguetree5067
    @plaguetree5067 7 місяців тому

    Well, I know what I'm trying this weekend!!

  • @xryptus9624
    @xryptus9624 2 місяці тому

    crazy how this was 32 heat and Hades couldn't even hit you

  • @Ben_E2
    @Ben_E2 7 місяців тому +1

    payday 2 dodge build: finally, a worthy opponent

  • @TheManDude
    @TheManDude 2 місяці тому

    Zagreus after oiling up(it’s historically accurate):

  • @Entremanures
    @Entremanures 7 місяців тому +1

    i'm 31 and kids had heelys in grade school

  • @wiriwiseco6328
    @wiriwiseco6328 Місяць тому

    So he just got 100 dmg in super dad fight while head diving? Makes sense (what a cool game)

  • @willowthorn35
    @willowthorn35 7 місяців тому

    bazinga!

  • @codystandish121
    @codystandish121 2 місяці тому

    My gf said it was me or the dodge build. God I miss her

  • @KaiKrimson56
    @KaiKrimson56 2 місяці тому

    How do you get Megaera as an assist?

    • @thegreatgario3478
      @thegreatgario3478 Місяць тому

      befriend her to the point where you give her ambrosia
      to use her during the hades fight you need to go to the contractor to get special permission, once you get far enough in the game; if you can't give that permission yet just keep playing the game

  • @Rocky-yw1zo
    @Rocky-yw1zo 6 місяців тому

    Is it possible to max heat with this

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  6 місяців тому +4

      Nah you won't earn enough dodge, room clears take too long.

  • @appawlicki
    @appawlicki Місяць тому

    Is there a reason he always sells one of his boons between floors? Am I missing something? Does it do something better for you?

    • @stellafraag3606
      @stellafraag3606 Місяць тому

      Pact of punishment. He needs to purge a boon to get to the next area :/

  • @rafaelgermano1497
    @rafaelgermano1497 7 місяців тому

    Hello haelian

  • @jpegfan51
    @jpegfan51 7 місяців тому +6

    wait does this make you actually invincible?

    • @CSmyth-
      @CSmyth- 7 місяців тому +5

      No, because breaking past 100% is conditional on you using the dash with perfect timing and on having enough gauge to Call. And if you always have the perfect reaction time, then... In theory... The dodge% doesn't actually matter because you could just avoid everything normally...

    • @jadeliu1462
      @jadeliu1462 7 місяців тому +5

      @@CSmyth-It's a lot easier to get near misses than you're thinking. Since you already have over 50% dodge naturally, you can dodge something then dash, essentially making the timing free. Then you can continue the cycle and get more near misses as you mash dash around attacks without actually fearing getting hit for timing it wrong, which you can see makes him nearly invincible against hades. Also, as soon as you get enough for one call, that's 10 seconds of invincibility which you can easily use to gain more invincibility.

    • @CSmyth-
      @CSmyth- 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jadeliu1462 I mean, you said it yourself. "...makes him nearly invincible against Hades"
      That's exactly what I'm saying, sure, you could get a THEORETICAL 100% uptime on the 100%+ dodge, but it's just not going to happen in practice.

    • @jadeliu1462
      @jadeliu1462 7 місяців тому +2

      @@CSmyth- Well sure, technically you won't be fully invincible but I'm just saying you can be invincible for long periods of time just by mashing dash and call. Saying the dodge% doesn't matter when it can give you large periods of invincibility for free is what I disagreed with, although being technical I do agree that 100% invincibility isn't achieved with this build.

    • @Arkayjiya
      @Arkayjiya 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@CSmyth- You can reach 100% perma-dodge even if it's conditional. 15% from fist, 25% from heroic Hermes if you get it before Eurydice, 30*1.2 = 36% dodge and you're already over 70% Hell even with a purple hermes you're over 70%. Then you get even the common 30% for 10 second after activating and the boon that allows you to have your bar partially filled at the start + a 5 bar boon and you can have perma-100% dodge. Sure it's contingent on you hitting the enemy so you can get your god gauge charge fast enough but since that condition is virtually impossible to fail, it's permanent invulnerability.
      So it can happen in practice, I actually had it in one run, perma invuln.

  • @thedocblock6421
    @thedocblock6421 6 місяців тому +2

    Dire Misfortune is not a great boon, but I think it has a very important place
    And that place is as a fallback boon to pick up in case merciful end decides to never show up
    Source: My last Gilgamesh Run

  • @selocan469
    @selocan469 14 днів тому

    So, dodge is additive?

  • @a_game_maker
    @a_game_maker 7 місяців тому +1

    The dodge rate is not additive. It is multiplicative. If you have the Hermes Dodge boon (10%) on top of Zag fists (15%), the final dodge rate is 1-( (1-0.1) * (1-0.15)) = 1 - ( 0.9 * 0.85 ) = 1 - 0.765 = 23.5% dodge rate. You can compute this using probability of getting hit. You can never have a dodge rate greater than 100% with more dodge boon.
    In your current build with 3 core dodge boons and one temporary dodge boon (Second Wind), the final dodge rate is 48% in general and for 10 seconds after using the call, the dodge rate is 67%. Essentially, it's just 1 out of 2 or 2 out of 3.

    • @a_game_maker
      @a_game_maker 7 місяців тому

      BTW, big fan of your content Hael!

    • @a_game_maker
      @a_game_maker 7 місяців тому

      Could you play a mod where you begin with your desired build and you lose boons after each chamber; let's call this mod - "Angry Olympus"

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  7 місяців тому +5

      Dodge rate is additive, the modding/speedrunning community confirmed this a long time ago. You can check the LUA files to confirm if you want. It is very possible to get over 100% dodge.

  • @palatonian9618
    @palatonian9618 7 місяців тому +1

    UA-camr luck, aka the willingness to do thousands of runs till you get one that will satisfy the dopamine starved viewers

  • @jgojiz
    @jgojiz 5 місяців тому

    Broken

  • @twiklexic
    @twiklexic Місяць тому +1

    reappropriating a cartoon that is just dogma for american imperialism that is now irrelevant to try to make more money is a snake eating it’s own tail (sorry for politics posting)