@@humushumus2219 But you can also train a malinois to herd sheeps, they're a shepherd breed after all. They wont be as good as border collies for it, just like with agility, but since they can also do bite work, scent work, and even rescue, while being top performers in 2 of these categories, they're overall better dogs.
Border collie is insanely fast & agile mostly coz of its smaller size. Malinois is also pretty fast & agile but can't really make sharp turns like the collie can
I take it you failed to notice that the video shows two completely different dog show events, so video is not able to be used for fair comparison, As they used different spacing, turns and placement of the jumps, also it was on two different surfaces.. They would to have been timed over the exact same coarse
@TheSLUser it's true though. Border collies are so much faster than other breeds that in the UK they have agility competitions called ABC competitions - Anything But Collies (which border collies are banned from) so that other breeds can compete.
They can onky sky dive, take down hostage takers, walk tight ropes blindfolded, leap over high walls as if they aren't there, walk up right on hinde legs, not to mention all round family pet and great protector the list goes on the breed is superior in so many ways not just to collies to every other breed
@user-hb9rl3ht4p Dont get me wrong i love malinois and collies but, a great all round family pet... Really? Lol have you ever actually met a mali irl or just seen them in videos? For the 0.01% of people on this planet who should actually own a belgian malinois and have 4+ hrs a day minium to work, train and play with them then yeah they're amazing dogs, but they are working dogs, unless you're a family of assassin's they will be too much for 99.99% of people. Even the collie, imagine walking that turbo charged ball of energy EVERY fucking morning, then getting your kids ready for school AND then going to work yourself, hope you don't like sleep, cause you haven't got time for that. Also every collie I've ever met that was treated like just a "family pet" ended up trying to herd children or cars like sheep or something stupid like that. No one should get a collie of Mali as a family pet especially a working line one... get a golden retriever instead now that's a good all round family pet.
These are two different courses and the Malinois had the long one, so they can't be compared. That being said, Malinois are agile AND they can bring you the balls of a perpetrator.
Lol, the decoys hate when we train to go for the balls. One trainer suggested to target to the top of the inner thigh close to the jewels, also a very painful bite area and the decoys will be happier 😅
Lol, tell them how we can work em till they drop and ready to go in like 30minutes. My puppy is only 5months and he is insane, looks like there is some knpv in the bloodline.
In agility and herding the Border Collie is superior. In any other discipline, the Malinois. Rescue, Military, drug search, police, all use Malinois (or Mali Dutch Shepherd mix). They can overpower a grown man, they can run faster and jump much higher. And their drive is off the scale. A Malinois will get cuts, burns, inhale toxic fumes, and still continue to search for survivors in a collapsed, burnt building. No other dog makes such sacrifices for its master.
Thank you for mentioning the Mal Dutch Shepherd mix which are most of the police military dogs. Mals are great, but they are very thin and fine boned, and they need a little bit more muscle and size for some applications which is where they integrate the working line German Shepherd. Most police dogs are shepherd mixes
@@primalcritters That's an excellent point. I rememberer when law enforcement agencies started switching from GSD's to Mals and Dutch shepherds. I was always told that it was due to their lower incidents of hip dysplasia and the dramatically rising cost of good working GSDs. I don't remember anyone ever saying that it was because they were "better dogs" for the job. In fact, many of them tended to have anxiety and other temperament problems that the GSDs didn't seem to have. That being said, I've had both GSD's and Mal crosses and they've all been really awesome dogs. (although, I've never had a dog that I didn't think was awesome)
They're both great breeds 😁 I hope to have a malinois one day. I had a border collie and he was insanely smart, understood whole sentences, a great dog x Collies can make tighter turns than malinois (or most breeds of dog) so they dominate agility. Border collies have an adaptation in their shoulder blades that allows them to crouch and move at the same time (used for herding), meaning they can get lower down to turn which means they can turn at higher speeds (as less risk of toppling or slipping).
@@mickshaw555no, but from my experience (and the existence of various super genius BCs) border collies are smarter than mals on average. Mals are also very smart, but not quite as much as borders. They are more obedient imo though.
Thanks so much for the explanation, i did notice the border collies are far more flexible compared to the malis. I own a mali, they are strong, solid and agile but the collies have that x-factor on the turns. Hope you get your mali one day but know they are an insane amount of work, more so than border collies but I'm hoping to get him a female companion in the future, I think a border collie would be great because then I'll actually go to agility training for both of them.
@zm-be1ej Yes, I want to wait until I move out of the city to get a mali. They can be prone to protectiveness / aloofness with strangers and can become reactive, so I think a less populous environment is better for them. I'd like not to have to walk a mal down a crowded street if possible. I currently have a GSD mix (with some tervuren and husky in the mix), and she's a lot to handle in a city environment. She's much happier when we are out on a hike, and there's less movement and activity to try to keep track of / control. I won't go for a purebred mali until I have a large garden to exercise and train him in. Good luck with your future collie. They're fabulous dogs if you like dog sports or trick training. You have to be careful not to make mistakes in your training as they learn so fast that they can learn the wrong thing by mistake, and it can be hard to get them to unlearn it later 😁
@@giftofthewild6665 I live in the suburbs. A 300sqm yard is just good enough for a living and basic playing area. It also helps that I have a nice block with two parks for walks and off leash training and a river/ marsh area that's about a 5min drive away. The walking on the main roads and congested areas actually helped desensitize him from the beginning to people, cars, bicycles, helping with stay training during crossing roads so a busier environment actually helped him quite a bit because he is non reactive to everything except the occasional dog barking through their gates but it's just one bark that I have to correct and I try to keep his focus on me during the problem, seems to work.
The Border Collie is much more agile due to its smaller frame, while the Malinois has more power than the Border Collie, being able to jump higher and run faster. Both amazing dogs nonetheless!
They're pretty close tbh but my Malinois has met over a hundred dogs and the only two that could keep up with his speed, or go faster, were a whippet and a Greyhound. I'm straight speed is Malinois all the way over Border Collie.
The Malinois is also a great guard dog. They used to patrol farms and farmlands by themselves, then act in case of an intruder. Border Collies don't do that. No guarding instinct. Just keep the flock together.
They're both great breeds that are independent when they need to be. The BC just happens to be the one that makes better decisions as they're more intelligent. The BC is also much more needy, which takes a point off being independent. Still, both are still my top 2 favorite breeds in the world, which is why I watched this video. Nice seeing your top 2 in one video XD
@@DolleHengst I understand what you mean but this really depends how we define "guard" dog. I've spent quite a bit of time in sheep country and can tell you that border collies have a strong territorial instinct. If well socialised as puppies 'pet' border collies won't be aggressive like that but working dogs often aren't socialised like this and will show aggression to anyone passing by until the owner has called them off. Granted, the Malinois is larger, more powerful and intimidating, so the collie's lack of size and bulk makes them more of a "watch" dog than guard dog against a serious intruder - if I was wealthy and a possible target for more serious criminals... I'd get a larger breed and more than 1 dog! But a border collie would be enough scare away most little scallywags. If it's wild predators that are the concern.. size isn't a huge issue. Wolves and such like know they need to avoid injury - 1 bite could prevent them from being able to run and hunt, leading to death for a wild animal. Domestic breeds can be raised to be fearless in this way. 1 small dog can scare away multiple wolves etc. They have the "live to fight another day" instinct and working domestic dogs don't. So much of their communication is through body language and posturing, trying to win a mental battle rather than automatically fighting. So a fearless dog is something they don't understand and it scares them for that reason. This isn't fool proof but it works more often than not.
Apparently borders can go long distances quickly because their heart size is uniquely large compared to the body weight to heart size ratio of other dogs.
Agility is what Borders are breed for. They are lower to the ground and their frame is made for quick response to turns. They can switch gears in an instant and they can think and reason so quickly. I feel like Malinios are the dog world’s answer to if you crossed an MMA fighter with a Stuntman. They are ridiculously athletic and can do things most dogs would never dream of. Like jump distances of 20 feet or climb 12 foot walls. Like, why think about how to approach an obstacle when you can just cut out the middle man and jump over the whole thing to avoid doing it.
Border Collie is a smaller F1 car and extremely fast and smart like Michael Schumacher and the Malinois is a straight force car without taking any curves, otherwise it jumps in the stands. :)))
As a very high drive mali owner. I'm not surprised this mali won. They push themselves in everything they do, most extreme, testy bat 💩 crazy dog i have ever met but I love him dearly! Love collies too, would have one in a heart beat. Malis are phenomenal though!!
The Malinois trainer confused her dog so it can't be judged against the Collie. Collie's are like a lightening strike compared to flash flood which is the Malinois.
Not sure if it’s the training or intelligence of the dog but the Collie trainer appeared to be more fluid and pointed where the Malinois trainer did more leading ..
P!nk, the Border Collie is amazing, to be sure!! But, comparison is the thief of joy. The two are built for differing purposes. I’d be willing to bet if the test were taking down a criminal the Belgian would win, hands down.
I have a Kelpie and a Malinois : Kelpie are insanely sharp amd fast in all move, the malinois offer more "power" for strait line ❤ Lotus Elise vs Dodge Viper;)
The border collie is the smartest breed if you train it well thw belgium malinois is quite smart aswell! The border collies felxebility is alot better cuz of its size bu there both amazing dogs,
No breed comes close to a Collie when it comes to a mixture of speed, agility and trainability. I love the Malinois and they do have different abilities that are better than the Collie, but in general it's the Collie for me all week long and twice on Sunday.
The biggest difference for me is with bc you dont have to get an experienced dog to teach it optimized movements, they just naturally figure out whats the best way to traverse different obstacles and terrains.
@@sailingonthoughts9594 I know it's kind of a cliché but the bc really is the smartest breed. Mix this with their agility and athleticism and their untouchable. They've been my breed since 2003 and they always will be.
@@bordercollie1140I would say that they are probably the two most high energy dog breeds that I know of. In terms of intelligence there is very little to choose between the two. The difference comes in for what you want with the breed; the Collie is absolutely peerless as a herding dog and its ability to perform sharp turns is absolutely majestic. But if you want a bunch of SEALs to go take out an ISIS bunker, there is no dog on God's Green Earth that will outperform the mighty Malinois.
@@randomlyfactual1943 True. But the video is about agility and I feel that the Malinois, or any breed for that matter, comes close to the Border in agility.
@@bordercollie1140 For these kinds of obstacles, yes, the Collie is peerless. That crazy side to side law action the Collie does to cross those beacons is almost too fast to comprehend. When it comes to jumping ability though, I think the Malinois will have the win. I don't know if the Collie can do those crazy rooftop jump/wall scaling/tree running that the Malligator does
@@giftofthewild6665 do the course layouts vary between venues? I understand that when starting to train a puppy in this, each obstacle is taught individually. Then once the dog has learned a few individual aspects, they progress to 2 obstacles, then 3, and so on. But I've no experience of this and they really zigzag across this. I'd get lost if I tried right now.
@@wolfpackpete6408 the courses all vary from competition to competition, it is built each time for each competition so even if you went to the same venue next year the course would be different.
Add a comment… I had two border collies adopted them from a litter at the shelter eighteen years ago they lived until sixteen and fifteen and were the most smart loyal dogs ever who knew literally more than a hundred voice commands and tricks and joined me on many many hikes and camping trips. I'm getting another dog as I'm completely lost without one and after visiting the shelters near me and finding no young puppies I put a deposit on a Belgium malinois pup I'm sure he's going to be very different from a collie but at same time all the traits I look for in a dog smart, trainable, able to compete in dog sports and able to go on long hikes and camping trips are there. The protective guarding side might be a added bonus as my house was broke into and I was attacked not long ago I would never train a dog to be aggressive but I'm sure the size and appearance of a mal would be more intimidating than a collie
I'm so sorry to hear about what happened, I'm glad to know that you at least made it through. How is the Malinois going for you? The Malinois is certainly way more intimidating than the Collie and much more useful when shit goes down. For home defence though, I would go with the bulkier German Shepherd... or a Pitbull. I really really pity whomever tries to get into this yard, because this black beast I've got is going to probably eat their liver out. Problem with a Mal (and a collie) for me personally is just how extremely busy they are and it's hard to give them their fair share of play time. I just don't have the time to give either that amount of attention
The border collie looks much faster in the turns and being an obstacle course, there's mostly nothing but turns. The two breeds are in two separate categories for this competition because they're not the same height. But the bc is the quintessential agility dog breed.
My favourite is the border collie not only because it'so beautiful but because it's the smartest, far above any other breed. My female border passed away 18 months ago and I'm still waiting... because she was so smart, I can say I lost my best friend. As I'm getting older, I wonder if I can still have the energy required to help a border collie to be happy. We'll see... BTW, I love the Malinois too; wonderful dog.
They're both great dogs, but the Malinois can also be hired to plan, prepare, and execute international hits on high-level targets, so there's that.
Lollll!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
So true
Agility competitions the border collie seems to perform. Everything else a malinois has taken 1st place in at some point
The Collies herding instinkt are far more valuable to humanity.
@@humushumus2219 true but this is an agility competition, we aren't Herding sheep
@@humushumus2219 But you can also train a malinois to herd sheeps, they're a shepherd breed after all.
They wont be as good as border collies for it, just like with agility, but since they can also do bite work, scent work, and even rescue, while being top performers in 2 of these categories, they're overall better dogs.
Incredible dogs! Love them both.
Border collie is insanely fast & agile mostly coz of its smaller size. Malinois is also pretty fast & agile but can't really make sharp turns like the collie can
I take it you failed to notice that the video shows two completely different dog show events, so video is not able to be used for fair comparison, As they used different spacing, turns and placement of the jumps, also it was on two different surfaces.. They would to have been timed over the exact same coarse
@TheSLUser it's true though. Border collies are so much faster than other breeds that in the UK they have agility competitions called ABC competitions - Anything But Collies (which border collies are banned from) so that other breeds can compete.
They can onky sky dive, take down hostage takers, walk tight ropes blindfolded, leap over high walls as if they aren't there, walk up right on hinde legs, not to mention all round family pet and great protector the list goes on the breed is superior in so many ways not just to collies to every other breed
@@Ste-k4iDony get butt hurt dude, they can’t be best at everything 😢
@user-hb9rl3ht4p Dont get me wrong i love malinois and collies but, a great all round family pet... Really? Lol have you ever actually met a mali irl or just seen them in videos? For the 0.01% of people on this planet who should actually own a belgian malinois and have 4+ hrs a day minium to work, train and play with them then yeah they're amazing dogs, but they are working dogs, unless you're a family of assassin's they will be too much for 99.99% of people.
Even the collie, imagine walking that turbo charged ball of energy EVERY fucking morning, then getting your kids ready for school AND then going to work yourself, hope you don't like sleep, cause you haven't got time for that.
Also every collie I've ever met that was treated like just a "family pet" ended up trying to herd children or cars like sheep or something stupid like that.
No one should get a collie of Mali as a family pet especially a working line one... get a golden retriever instead now that's a good all round family pet.
These are two different courses and the Malinois had the long one, so they can't be compared. That being said, Malinois are agile AND they can bring you the balls of a perpetrator.
But the border collie steal them back and do the surgery to reconnect the balls.
Lol, the decoys hate when we train to go for the balls. One trainer suggested to target to the top of the inner thigh close to the jewels, also a very painful bite area and the decoys will be happier 😅
I have a malinois, most insane dog I have ever known. Fantastic breed!
Lol, tell them how we can work em till they drop and ready to go in like 30minutes. My puppy is only 5months and he is insane, looks like there is some knpv in the bloodline.
In agility and herding the Border Collie is superior. In any other discipline, the Malinois. Rescue, Military, drug search, police, all use Malinois (or Mali Dutch Shepherd mix). They can overpower a grown man, they can run faster and jump much higher. And their drive is off the scale. A Malinois will get cuts, burns, inhale toxic fumes, and still continue to search for survivors in a collapsed, burnt building. No other dog makes such sacrifices for its master.
Thank you for mentioning the Mal Dutch Shepherd mix which are most of the police military dogs. Mals are great, but they are very thin and fine boned, and they need a little bit more muscle and size for some applications which is where they integrate the working line German Shepherd. Most police dogs are shepherd mixes
@@primalcritters That's an excellent point. I rememberer when law enforcement agencies started switching from GSD's to Mals and Dutch shepherds. I was always told that it was due to their lower incidents of hip dysplasia and the dramatically rising cost of good working GSDs. I don't remember anyone ever saying that it was because they were "better dogs" for the job. In fact, many of them tended to have anxiety and other temperament problems that the GSDs didn't seem to have. That being said, I've had both GSD's and Mal crosses and they've all been really awesome dogs. (although, I've never had a dog that I didn't think was awesome)
They're both great breeds 😁 I hope to have a malinois one day. I had a border collie and he was insanely smart, understood whole sentences, a great dog x
Collies can make tighter turns than malinois (or most breeds of dog) so they dominate agility. Border collies have an adaptation in their shoulder blades that allows them to crouch and move at the same time (used for herding), meaning they can get lower down to turn which means they can turn at higher speeds (as less risk of toppling or slipping).
Is agility equal to intellegence in dog smartness analysis?
@@mickshaw555no, but from my experience (and the existence of various super genius BCs) border collies are smarter than mals on average.
Mals are also very smart, but not quite as much as borders. They are more obedient imo though.
Thanks so much for the explanation, i did notice the border collies are far more flexible compared to the malis. I own a mali, they are strong, solid and agile but the collies have that x-factor on the turns. Hope you get your mali one day but know they are an insane amount of work, more so than border collies but I'm hoping to get him a female companion in the future, I think a border collie would be great because then I'll actually go to agility training for both of them.
@zm-be1ej Yes, I want to wait until I move out of the city to get a mali. They can be prone to protectiveness / aloofness with strangers and can become reactive, so I think a less populous environment is better for them. I'd like not to have to walk a mal down a crowded street if possible.
I currently have a GSD mix (with some tervuren and husky in the mix), and she's a lot to handle in a city environment. She's much happier when we are out on a hike, and there's less movement and activity to try to keep track of / control.
I won't go for a purebred mali until I have a large garden to exercise and train him in.
Good luck with your future collie. They're fabulous dogs if you like dog sports or trick training. You have to be careful not to make mistakes in your training as they learn so fast that they can learn the wrong thing by mistake, and it can be hard to get them to unlearn it later 😁
@@giftofthewild6665 I live in the suburbs. A 300sqm yard is just good enough for a living and basic playing area. It also helps that I have a nice block with two parks for walks and off leash training and a river/ marsh area that's about a 5min drive away. The walking on the main roads and congested areas actually helped desensitize him from the beginning to people, cars, bicycles, helping with stay training during crossing roads so a busier environment actually helped him quite a bit because he is non reactive to everything except the occasional dog barking through their gates but it's just one bark that I have to correct and I try to keep his focus on me during the problem, seems to work.
The Border Collie is much more agile due to its smaller frame, while the Malinois has more power than the Border Collie, being able to jump higher and run faster. Both amazing dogs nonetheless!
I get your point, but not sure a mali is faster than the bc, bcs have the biggest heart for their size of any dog and have insane endurance
They're pretty close tbh but my Malinois has met over a hundred dogs and the only two that could keep up with his speed, or go faster, were a whippet and a Greyhound. I'm straight speed is Malinois all the way over Border Collie.
@@ricardocarneiro7797indeed. No way a malinois can keep up with my bc.
Border collie knows what he is doing . BM seeks you to tell him what he needs to do . BC can independently make decisions and problem solve
Both breeds can do the same stuff it depends on the trainer of the dog
The Malinois is also a great guard dog. They used to patrol farms and farmlands by themselves, then act in case of an intruder. Border Collies don't do that. No guarding instinct. Just keep the flock together.
They're both great breeds that are independent when they need to be. The BC just happens to be the one that makes better decisions as they're more intelligent. The BC is also much more needy, which takes a point off being independent. Still, both are still my top 2 favorite breeds in the world, which is why I watched this video. Nice seeing your top 2 in one video XD
The BC in this video looked faster in every way.
@@DolleHengst I understand what you mean but this really depends how we define "guard" dog. I've spent quite a bit of time in sheep country and can tell you that border collies have a strong territorial instinct. If well socialised as puppies 'pet' border collies won't be aggressive like that but working dogs often aren't socialised like this and will show aggression to anyone passing by until the owner has called them off.
Granted, the Malinois is larger, more powerful and intimidating, so the collie's lack of size and bulk makes them more of a "watch" dog than guard dog against a serious intruder - if I was wealthy and a possible target for more serious criminals... I'd get a larger breed and more than 1 dog! But a border collie would be enough scare away most little scallywags.
If it's wild predators that are the concern.. size isn't a huge issue. Wolves and such like know they need to avoid injury - 1 bite could prevent them from being able to run and hunt, leading to death for a wild animal. Domestic breeds can be raised to be fearless in this way. 1 small dog can scare away multiple wolves etc. They have the "live to fight another day" instinct and working domestic dogs don't. So much of their communication is through body language and posturing, trying to win a mental battle rather than automatically fighting. So a fearless dog is something they don't understand and it scares them for that reason. This isn't fool proof but it works more often than not.
Apparently borders can go long distances quickly because their heart size is uniquely large compared to the body weight to heart size ratio of other dogs.
I like Belgium Malinois a bit more
As a Belgian I obviously love the Malinois
Thanks for bringing us these guys. My boy is amazing 🫡
Border collie because there the best out of any dogs all other dogs so lame
Agility is what Borders are breed for.
They are lower to the ground and their frame is made for quick response to turns.
They can switch gears in an instant and they can think and reason so quickly.
I feel like Malinios are the dog world’s answer to if you crossed an MMA fighter with a Stuntman.
They are ridiculously athletic and can do things most dogs would never dream of.
Like jump distances of 20 feet or climb 12 foot walls.
Like, why think about how to approach an obstacle when you can just cut out the middle man and jump over the whole thing to avoid doing it.
Border collies were bred for herding. They happen to be very agile.
Border collie-everything and plus so elegant in their moves no matter of speed ❤
IM a big Mal fan but with elegance, the Border Collie deserves that.
Border Collie is a smaller F1 car and extremely fast and smart like Michael Schumacher and the Malinois is a straight force car without taking any curves, otherwise it jumps in the stands. :)))
As a very high drive mali owner. I'm not surprised this mali won. They push themselves in everything they do, most extreme, testy bat 💩 crazy dog i have ever met but I love him dearly! Love collies too, would have one in a heart beat. Malis are phenomenal though!!
all dogs are great but I love Belgian malinois, I have two myself and they are fucking insane hahasksk ❤🔥
The Malinois trainer confused her dog so it can't be judged against the Collie. Collie's are like a lightening strike compared to flash flood which is the Malinois.
Border Collie!
Not sure if it’s the training or intelligence of the dog but the Collie trainer appeared to be more fluid and pointed where the Malinois trainer did more leading ..
Border collie have speed, 💥💥💥 and are strong
They both do!
Speed I’ll grant you that strength compared to a Mali nah
I would not trade my BM for any dog or for 100 dogs. Period!
I have a Belgium and they are def not for everyone, if you dont know how to handle a dog..
Not the same course so we don’t know for sure which one is faster.
nothing beats the collie for this type of test!
Belgian malinois are definitely one of my favourite breeds❤️🤗
Mali taking the lead(sh) after the course is still one of my favorite memes
They are both phenomenally gifted dogs, but have such different temperaments and motivations. Thanks for the comparison!
P!nk, the Border Collie is amazing, to be sure!! But, comparison is the thief of joy. The two are built for differing purposes. I’d be willing to bet if the test were taking down a criminal the Belgian would win, hands down.
Seems the border collie is faster.
Both are such Amazing breeds, one has been bred to herd all types of cattle while the other will herd People..
they're both herding dogs for cattle.
Both were grate
That was a warm up for the mal
Not the same course.
Belgian malions
that was amazing
I have a Kelpie and a Malinois : Kelpie are insanely sharp amd fast in all move, the malinois offer more "power" for strait line ❤ Lotus Elise vs Dodge Viper;)
Collie looked faster but this is not even fair comparison, different events, different courses.
... Belgian Malinois cannot beat a rocket scientist border collie....
What a horrible song
A um tempinho que venho acompanhando a "Pink" bordel collier .
Agilidade pra compara com a dela só a da "Fame" outra bordel collier
My Belgium is so fast I used to hav
Rottweiler
Would have been cool to see them in side by side video on the same course.
It's the mali always though I like collies too...
Belgian manlions
👍👍 my two favorite pups 🐾🐾
That said, I have one of each ☺️
Malinois ....my dream dog!!!
I’d rather watch these dogs run the same course
They’re both fantastic. I give my preference to the Malinois because it can also attack/defend and it can jump like 15 feet off a wall
they are
The course favors the smaller dog. Make the course with longer/higher jumps and increase the distance between objects and it will favor the malinois.
These are two different courses, and the Malinois had the long one.
The border collie is the smartest breed if you train it well thw belgium malinois is quite smart aswell! The border collies felxebility is alot better cuz of its size bu there both amazing dogs,
Belgian malinois are the smartest dogs now according to new studies.
what an awful music !
oh sorry lol
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I have a border collie puppy and I got him at this January
nice
My pup is a mix of both these dogs. He’s 10 months old and pretty rad
Pink is amazing! The Malinois was much better than I thought it would be, but can't beat the speed and agility of a Border Collie.
i have both and they both lazy 😂🤣 big sweethearts tho
You have a border collie and a belgian that are lazy?
The dogs in this video aren't lol
No breed comes close to a Collie when it comes to a mixture of speed, agility and trainability. I love the Malinois and they do have different abilities that are better than the Collie, but in general it's the Collie for me all week long and twice on Sunday.
The biggest difference for me is with bc you dont have to get an experienced dog to teach it optimized movements, they just naturally figure out whats the best way to traverse different obstacles and terrains.
@@sailingonthoughts9594 I know it's kind of a cliché but the bc really is the smartest breed. Mix this with their agility and athleticism and their untouchable. They've been my breed since 2003 and they always will be.
@@bordercollie1140I would say that they are probably the two most high energy dog breeds that I know of. In terms of intelligence there is very little to choose between the two.
The difference comes in for what you want with the breed; the Collie is absolutely peerless as a herding dog and its ability to perform sharp turns is absolutely majestic.
But if you want a bunch of SEALs to go take out an ISIS bunker, there is no dog on God's Green Earth that will outperform the mighty Malinois.
@@randomlyfactual1943 True. But the video is about agility and I feel that the Malinois, or any breed for that matter, comes close to the Border in agility.
@@bordercollie1140 For these kinds of obstacles, yes, the Collie is peerless. That crazy side to side law action the Collie does to cross those beacons is almost too fast to comprehend.
When it comes to jumping ability though, I think the Malinois will have the win. I don't know if the Collie can do those crazy rooftop jump/wall scaling/tree running that the Malligator does
How do the owners/trainers learn what order to do the course? Is it just from repetition? There's no arrows or anything I can see.
The obstacles are numbered. Plus, you get about 10 - 20 minutes to walk the course and remember it/plan your strategy :)
The owners learn the course beforehand and they communicate this to the dog with hand signals and verbal cues while running the course.
@@giftofthewild6665 do the course layouts vary between venues?
I understand that when starting to train a puppy in this, each obstacle is taught individually. Then once the dog has learned a few individual aspects, they progress to 2 obstacles, then 3, and so on. But I've no experience of this and they really zigzag across this. I'd get lost if I tried right now.
@@wolfpackpete6408 the courses all vary from competition to competition, it is built each time for each competition so even if you went to the same venue next year the course would be different.
Border collie is better this is my dog his names mikas
If only there was a bite on a decoy at the end
The Mali had 2 slight mistakes but is a much more athletic dog.
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I had two border collies adopted them from a litter at the shelter eighteen years ago they lived until sixteen and fifteen and were the most smart loyal dogs ever who knew literally more than a hundred voice commands and tricks and joined me on many many hikes and camping trips. I'm getting another dog as I'm completely lost without one and after visiting the shelters near me and finding no young puppies I put a deposit on a Belgium malinois pup I'm sure he's going to be very different from a collie but at same time all the traits I look for in a dog smart, trainable, able to compete in dog sports and able to go on long hikes and camping trips are there. The protective guarding side might be a added bonus as my house was broke into and I was attacked not long ago I would never train a dog to be aggressive but I'm sure the size and appearance of a mal would be more intimidating than a collie
I'm so sorry to hear about what happened, I'm glad to know that you at least made it through. How is the Malinois going for you?
The Malinois is certainly way more intimidating than the Collie and much more useful when shit goes down. For home defence though, I would go with the bulkier German Shepherd... or a Pitbull. I really really pity whomever tries to get into this yard, because this black beast I've got is going to probably eat their liver out.
Problem with a Mal (and a collie) for me personally is just how extremely busy they are and it's hard to give them their fair share of play time. I just don't have the time to give either that amount of attention
Gano el belga y eso que es más grande y pesado
Border Collie 🔥🔥🔥
Border collie is faster, smarter and much more beautiful
Border collies are not faster. There quicker a bit smarter and looks are anyones opinion
A mal can do anything a border collie can do but a border collie can’t be trained to everything a Mal can do.
@@alanb952 Shut up punk
Lol shut up belgian malinois Is faster and smarter MUCH MORE beautiful
@@famdewaal lol never. Only in your dreams... Border collie would beat him in a competition any day any time.
So was the bc faster?
idk
The border collie looks much faster in the turns and being an obstacle course, there's mostly nothing but turns.
The two breeds are in two separate categories for this competition because they're not the same height. But the bc is the quintessential agility dog breed.
this agility test is biased in favor of border collie skills. other tests the malinois can breeze through the bc could not even complete in.
Actually no, BC can do anything more superior than BM anytime any day
My favourite is the border collie not only because it'so beautiful but because it's the smartest, far above any other breed. My female border passed away 18 months ago and I'm still waiting... because she was so smart, I can say I lost my best friend. As I'm getting older, I wonder if I can still have the energy required to help a border collie to be happy. We'll see...
BTW, I love the Malinois too; wonderful dog.
Check out the last inteligence study on dog breeds. Malis are recognized by far as the kings now.
belgian malinois are the kings of agility that's why they are king of police dogs
No, BCs win every agility competition. We like to keep the title within the breed 😉
*Belgain Malinois* !!! If u put them into the fight Border Collie would be rip in like a seconds
but for agility most people think bc is better
but its ur opinion
Yeah but I dont think we are talking about who would win in an illegal dog fight. So that doesnt matter
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Bcoz they’re waaay less aggressive + it’s not the point of the vid
Why would you put them into a fight? Border Collies are probably smarter than you.