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In this video, we discuss owning and using AKs but still being on the AR bandwagon for defensive use and vice versa.
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As a Vietnam vet I hated the AK. But in the mid 90s I got my first one. I wanted to hate it, but I fell
In love with it. I love my ARs, but my AK is my go to. Simple. Built like a tank. And she never fails in any weather or condition. In a shtf situation, I’d be grabbing my AK
As a through in through American patriot, I've thought a few times how would Vietnam vets feel about me using an AK as my go to weapon.... Cool to know at least one is ok with it....
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@@KnightsUnion thank you. And thanks for being a Patriot! 👏👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@HowlingAmmoThe 5.56 killed way more vietcong than their 7.62’s killed Americans buddy. Not even close.
@@HowlingAmmo the guns didn’t kill my brothers, the NVA and Vietcong did. And they used a lot of captured ARs too. It’s not the gun. It’s who’s pulling the trigger
I met a few vets who grabbed up the ak and said they could trust it more than the ar. So they were both used by both sides. U hear a lot of stories of dead soldiers with jammed m16s
I support the AK GUY Brandon Herrera for Congress!!!
But will be finish the AK-50?
@@AlaskanBallisticsyes he will he said he would
@@AlaskanBallistics Titan just unfkd his forward grip.
Better then the current rep who wanted red flag laws
@@worduprussia8298why
I love how Ian's mud test as based and eye opening as it was, completely negates every single dirt, mud, ice test taken before and since with AKs lol. I remember MAC from military arms literally dumping dirt into a mag, opened the dust cover and poured dirt into action, and loaded rounds that were sitting in dirt into a 74...and fired every round. Because ARs never shit the bed..right? Both are very reliable, and proven platforms. As is always said. AKs are dramatically more accurate than people are lead to believe. Just like the AR is dramatically more reliable than people are lead to believe.
Ehh.. people have short memories, and the other tests weren't nearly as sensational
Garand Thumbs dirt and mud test opened my eyes to AK vs AR. As in he dumped mud and dirt in 3 different DI AR'S INTO THE OPEN CHAMBERS and they fired every single round while ALL the AK's or any other long stroke piston design shit the bed after exactly 1 round.
Those tests are far from scientific and are more for entertainment than to actually prove and open eyes to anything
You said it all. 👏
@@Lksupasteien there are enough of them from enough platforms and people to pretty much call it fact. DI blows shit out of the action and its hard to get it into the action in the first place. AK will just put shit into the action to where it won't go into battery.
I support Brandon Herrera for Congress and thank you for the news brother.
GOBBLES
rifle is fine . . .
AKs to me just feel like driving a manual transmission car. It's kind of old world despite not being much older than the AR. Its stamped steel, it's levers and handles and crude feeling. It's just more fun to me.
Ak47is real battle rifle at 2 or 300 yards is born for you can take a part with gloves on the AR will be complicated 🎉
Original AK was milled not stamped.
@@JoseJaime-ik6qdAR - not complicated
I'm sure he's talking about the AKM, not the "original" AK which was changed for a reason.
Original AK was actually stamped and was always intended to be that way., They had trouble with their stamping technology and were forced to mill receivers for a couple generations Type 2 & Type 3 early 1950s to 1959 👍🏽
What really matters is the one you practice with most!
But remember, your gunfight may not be with your gun.
Ar for sure
That would make me a mini guy...lol
Lol
I got bored with the AR game and after having a dozen or more of them, I switched to the AK. Now I run the PSA GF5-E and Zastava M70. It’s been a fun new transfer. I also enjoy the history of the AK a bit more.
@JenkemODlighten up, Francis
@JenkemOD LOL you took the time to reply that. Slow day?
Zastava M70's are the best, a little heavy due to the thicker reciever/bulged trunnion but they are fuckin tanks. You could probably cut a tree down using it as an axe 🤣
GF5-E is a GREAT AK. Maybe one of the best but even it doesn't compare to a well put together AR and a AR can be chambered in whatever you want.
Francis…….lol…
this is just me but i really enjoy the sound on the charging handle when you're either just checking if its clear or just racking it back for fun.
This^^^^ PSA I built just doesn't have the same "Shuh-Ching" that my AK has
Same here. I sometimes give weird looks to my AK 9mm cause the bolt doesn't go far enough back like a regular AK.
I personally like sound of the M14 being racked.
The sound of an AK is AMSR for sure.
Being from a Great Plains state, im an AR10 guy. Theres simply too much vast open land for an intermediate caliber.
As such, my go to defensive rifle is an Hk Mr762 topped with a Vortex Razor HD-E Gen3 1-10x optic.
The AK and AR are both epic rifles! My only gripe is the GWOT trend of ever decreasing barrel length. You literally said it in video. Speed kills. The 5.56 looses its outstanding lethality very very quickly when velocity drops because it simply doesnt have the mass. With the 11 inch SBRs people are geeking out over these days, youre getting 7.62x39 muzzle velocity but with a bullet that weighs less than half! It simply makes no sense to me.
I prefer the AK mostly because I'm a big fan of the older cold war-era guns. The super modern tactical gun isn't really my cup of tea I found out more recently
Personally I always liked the SKS, so many people hunt with an SKS that was my first choice. Now the dang AKs are expensive 😢
@@mikenstien1861the sks is a braindead easy gun to strip and shoot. They are workhorses.
Rob ski and Kaylo are both phenomenal at shooters and lovers of the ak and it's super impressive to see what they can do with the platform.
That said I'm a die hard 10.5 300 blackout guy I have 556 ars and 762 AKs and their all accurate and usable just to me 50-200 is what I'm comfortable with so I really like the ak and 300. if I need distance I'll grab the PTR 308...or whatever
300 has become my favorite. Have it suppressed on DD PDW. Soft shooter. Double taps touch. My new forest hiking gun.
I love and train regularly with both platforms and wouldn’t have any problem with using either for self defense.
When I first got into shooting I was introduced to ak’s first because at the time they were way more economical both in gun and ammo price. While I have both I still prefer to use my AK even in self defense situations. Mostly because of familiarity. But understand why now most people are more likely to be AR guys (for some it may be the same reasons I became more of an ak guy)
I would be an m16 guy but the government doesn’t trust us
I consider myself a little more of an AK guy to an extent but I also just acknowledge that living in America ARs are just a whole lot more practical so that is my more serious use rifle. However I just like the look and feel of AKs a lot better to me my AKs are just way more fun to shoot than my ARs.
Soft point 7.62x39 is my favorite x39 round. It’s a whitetail slayer with great expansion and fragmentation
You know how those burly as hell subsonics work on a deer?
7.62x39 is very similar ballistics to 30-30 also a legendary deer slayer@@adammcallister9675
@@adammcallister9675Just fine.
It's funny...
I literally started with a PSA GF3 as a first rifle ever. Months of deciding between a AK variant or a AR.
I went with a AK
I went through the AK aftermarket parts. Always fun! I absolutely respect the AK with all my heart.
Only recently I am going through MY AR phase. And I'm also finding a special place for it in my heart. But AR's are really fun to "build" a AR from scratch which is what I've been doing from the start.
In the end. AK is a winner for me due to manual of arms is easier for me and aesthetics are cooler to me.
AK is better. AR fanboys always make coping videos.
me too man. I like both but my go to war rifle is an AK.
To each their own, we need to lose the team mentality. We are all on the same team because we like guns. I'm an AK guy, they have soul and the AR does NOT IMHO. That said, I'm in America so I choose the AR as my go-to. I own WAY MORE AKs than ARs and AKs are my thing.
Just got the same psa gf3 Ak
How is yours doing ?
AK guy here. Unless you count my government issue M-4 I returned to my unit after my last qualification back in 2013, I've never actually owned an Armalite platform and never had any desire to. AR's are boring good guy guns and I just don't find them as stimulating as an AK. Having trained with both, I prefer my AK every day of the week and twice on Sunday. That's just me 💁
I'll cough up 2k on an Aug Steyr that takes AR mags before I buy an AR
Really depends on where you live and how you treat it. If you live in the east or south east lots of trees and hills and humidity and you leave the gun in the truck 24/7 I would trust the AK far more. That 7.62x39 round is gonna be better in the trees and even urban areas and if you had to shoot through a car door or something. Plus if it just gets forgotten about and not taken ideal care of in the humidity and stuff that AK will be better off. You just have to have a good ak to start with. Lots of crappy ones have been sold here.
Im an AR guy i love the grown mans lego assembly art of the ar15 and ar10 plus it is way easier to customize your favorite ar than any ak on the market 👍🏻🇺🇸
I agree, but that's also what makes them boring and soulless. There are AKs that a pretty unique VS other AKs, but all ARs are interchangeable. Don't get me wrong, there are some really cool ones and I know some are way more different now, even different operating systems. This is relatively recent. I own both, choose AR for martial use, but I like AKs more as interesting mechanical items. They are also plenty capable.
@@justinkase1360I agree with you, but what exactly is it about customization that makes it soulless. Because I wouldn't say that about a customizable car. If anything the ones with the most aftermarket are the most soulful, and therefore are more respected and popular. The cars with no aftermarket have to be very good or very unique on their own to be known.
This is the biggest factor in my opinion. The AK will always be superior to the AR inside of 100 yards. Idc if it’s 5.45 or 7.62x39. 5.56 zips through 5.45 tumbles violently. 7.62x39 was designed to penetrate barriers like brick and concrete. Can’t hide. Unless maybe you’re on the other side of a thick engine block. Far as I know I haven’t seen Eric or Chad with a ZenitCo build of any sort.
I like the AK because of it simplicity but also like the AR and the SKS😊
Which is exactly why I find myself being more of an AR guy but ask me 10 years ago I'd have said AK.
@@30rdMAGA-vl9ulso you’ve regressed?
I can’t believe in my life time already I’ve watched the AK an SKS switch from the cheapest option to a luxury
Looking good Eric! Glad you slimmed down brother! You rock! 😃
I've seen MANY ARs at the range have problems (as opposed to the AKs). I know there are way more reasons and causes for the AR having trouble (a bad builder, gas system issues, different ammo/cycling issues, the losing of tiny parts in the field, improper lubrication or cleaning, etc.). AK problems seem to be relegated to VERY CHEAP companies putting out bad guns or (rarely) a very bad home build gun. Personally, i enjoy the weight, feel, and sights of the AK. It's different than the lighter AR that often is topped with some optic. Some people prefer steel frame handguns to polymer. Others prefer pump shotguns to semi-auto. The great thing about America is you can have them all.
The problem is we can’t get authentic AKs like we could 10 years ago.
Since imports have been banned, we have boutique shops making AKs.
I might want a PSA ak but I wouldn’t compare it to an older Arsenal.
The reason ars fail a lot is because the ones 99.999% of people buy are junk. I think the AKM is a great platform that has been battle proven and it’s reliable. With that said due to Russia being so poor they have literally not developed the platform at all. The ak12 is stupid. In an era of modern warfare with tech that operators use the AK is way behind the curve and it’s not debatable it’s simply a fact now.
The reason you saw many ARs have problems as opposed to AKs is because you see a lot more ARs than AKs. It’s the most popular rifle and also attracts far more beginners than AKs.
@@TYMGhosT You’re in the running for most ignorant comment.
get real kc ak only !
I called myself an "AK guy" ever since 2015, when I bought a Russian Saiga in 7.62x39 as my 18th birthday present to myself, and the first firearm I ever owned. Still have it to this day. I stood by this stance only until around the last year or two, when I looked around and started to notice that almost all the good imports were gone, and most of the American made AKs on the market are crap. I thought to myself, "The entire purpose of owning an AK is to have a stupid reliable, combat-accurate workhorse. If it's built like crap, what's the point?"
In the last year or so, I found myself spending more time steering people towards ARs and telling them all about which AKs are junk or otherwise not worth one's time than I did telling them what good AK brands are out there. The few that still exist are out of most folks' budgets.
Today, even though I still would pick up my Saiga over any other rifle on Earth to go fight with, now, I just call myself a "gun guy."
I have an original CMMG Mutant and it’s had thousands of suppressed rounds through it as a thermal night hog gun. It’s rode in truck, side by side and on four wheeler, and never an issue at all. I also have a KS-47 and I’m on my 3rd bolt in less than a thousand rounds, yes it’s a lil less heavy but the Mutant just keeps rollin. Don’t get it wrong, I love my 77gr 556 also but 200 yards and in I’ll pick my CMMG over the 556.
I freaking love my AKs there's just something about running an AK that appeals to me and I can't explain exactly what that is. But I love my ARs as well. I think a Piston driven AR is the best.
I think when it comes down to AR vs AK for me I think it has more to do with the round. I just really like the 7.62x39. I like it more then 5.56 in most applications.
I own a great AR chambered in 7.62x39
For most shooting the average person will do it’s better. Hits harder. Cheap.
@@ShizawnSanderssir we didn’t ask
I like both. If I don’t have to travel I am going with the ak.
For me the ak is just much more fun to shoot than most other systems. But yeah my bug out rifle is actually a HS VHS-2 due to ammo availability of 556 in my country
Have three AK based. Two JRA yugo tankers(16" barrel) and a Zavasta 7.62 x 51 (19.5" barrell). Love them both. The darker wooden hardware with black metal just looks so good and classic. And honestly, I like the recoil feel better. Not missing, like an AR, but also not uncomfortable after a hundred rounds.
I’ll quote the late James Yeager on the AR vs AK debate, “Just give me one!” I own three Jim Fuller AKs in 5.45, 5.56, and 7.62, and a couple dozen ARs. As long as one is trained, it really doesn’t matter.
This is true. My setups are bit different, but inside 300 yds it wouldn’t matter much. I’d probably gran my AK if some sort of major gunfight was headed my way, but would make due with AR and be happy to have it.
For many, AKs are akin to something like a "Goth phase". They're outside the norm, different, exciting. You get to belong to your own weird subset of gun society. You get an excuse to put weird anime stickers on your guns. But like the goth phase, it's usually temporary. Eventually you'll come to your senses and grow up into a sensible adult and return to the tried and true, respectable AR platform. As you age you'll look fondly at the AK youth, reminiscing on your own rebellious gun days. You'll chuckle to yourself and say "they'll grow out of it. We were all young and silly once. I know i was"
OR: ..... you'll rebel for life and run for Congress.... and I'll vote for you in a heartbeat! Viva LA Herrera!
I just assembled an AR10 in 6mm CM and I’m starting to think it might be one of my favorite ARs. AR advantage: what caliber do you want to shoot?
Exactly 💯🎯 LEGO GUN
I'm a gun guy - started out building my own Romy G fixed stock and underfolder from parts kits as a broke ass college kid. Grew up, budget expanded, got into ARs. I love them both for what they do. This is the way.
I like 7.62x39 for close quarters, shorter ranges, urban environments. Good for punching holes in cover. I like the AR for more for refined work at distance because I can easily run a 2 stage trigger, optic hight is much closer to bore, bla bla bla.
Got my neice out on the range and she also loves them both as well.
It's good to love and cherish your tools, treat them well, and have them serve you for decades of enjoyment.
Can’t we just like both? The AR covers my go to war rifle and my hunting rifle, the AK covers my my home defense rifle and my backpack/truck gun
Heres a talking point
Most ARs don't come with iron sights.
Right. An AK is ready to go right out of the box. Doesn’t even need to be cleaned either, lol
My 16" Ak101 is my home defense full size rifle (slinged). My 12.5 AR pistol is my home defense (slinged) pistol.
AK’s are great but the market is taking a little of a beating since the ammo is almost as pricey as 223/556 now. One of the best benefits was being able to purchase a case of surplus ammo and have it shipped to your door for around $200. Those days are gone now.
Not if people wake tf up and get those corrupt politicians out… wishful thinking though.
Then get a 5.56 / .223 AK. I have several of them in various makes. Takes more shopping around to find the right magazines that fit .223 AK's however, as the magazines were never standardized.
Here's a list of my rifles
12.5" Galil Ace 556 converted to rock n lock
8.3" Galil 21 SBR 556 Rock n lock
8.3" Galil Ace 31 SBR 762x39
12.5" Galil Ace 5.45x39
13" Galil Ace Gen 2
WASR 10-62 7.62x39
PSA GF3 7.62x39
AK102 556
Zastava ZPAP 85 556
KUSA KP9
AK105 5.45
Romainian SAR2 AK74
MAK 90
What I don't have is any AR's.
As for closed systems, the Galil ACE is a closed system.
My first 5 guns were AR's and I sold every one of them. I HATED the AR ergonomics. As for 556 4 of my AK's are 556, 3 are 5.45 and the rest are 7.62.
So... Am I an AK guy?
There's plenty of new production non corrosive 7.62x39. I have a Ruger bolt action carbine chambered for it. I run hand loaded 123gr Hornady sst, you can drop a golf ball through the hole it makes in deer. It's comparable to the venerable 30 WCF. That said ar vs ak won't matter when proverbial bathroom gravity takes effect. Train with what you have and make the best of it.
AK:
1. Reliability
2. Completely toolless disassembly
3. Calibre goes through cinderblocks
4. Does t require cleaning
Hey Eric, I remember when you used to carry that 5.45 Saiga with sporter handguard in your SUV for defense.
I still haven't shot an AK yet, much less taken one apart to compare it to an AR. Since my knowledge of the AR is from practical experience I'd have to say I'm an AR guy, but I still want to experience the AK before making the final decision. Like Eric and Chad, I'm just a gun guy...hell, I even like my Hi-Point.
amen brother
AKs are stupid simple
@FlubzyWubbzy If you get the AK50 when Branden Herrera gets it finished and commercially available, you can have the full trifecta. Goals!
I used to be an ak guy. Then I started assembling ar's. I don't like to say build. I'm not manufacturing parts, I'm just putting premade parts together.. the modularity & ease of working on them converted me to an ar guy...
Some people make their lowers which would be appropriate to say they are building a gun.
Yeah if you don’t mine the ore, you aren’t building anything.
@@Hornet135 ore??
@@Rexolaboy yeap if their forging & milling the lower out, then hell yeah their building it. Anything less is just an assembly. Drilling holes or sanding/polishing is just a minor modifications. Just never understood the use of building a gun when assembling premade parts. Don't get me wrong I love to assemble them! Legos for men right!!!
@@maxcole3930 yeah, iron ore etc. if you don’t mine the metal it doesn’t count. Come to think of it, if you don’t cut the trees and saw your own lumber you don’t really build a house either.
Serious question, all my vet buddies, prefer ak s or ar 10 over ar15.... is this a power factor?? 30cal thing?
When SHTF, I grab what ever I can to stop the threat . Close range forty feet or less, shot gun OO buckshot or slugs. Or an AK 5.45X39 OR 7.62X39 Golden Tiger.. Forty feet to five hundred yards 5.56x45 AR 15 OR FN-FAL 14:31 OR 7MM mag. It depends!! MURPHY 'S LAW!
I had the great honor of rooming with an IDF Captain who was a weapons specialist and he taught me so much. He marched me to a gun store where we bought a stock unissued AK and he showed me how to set up, care for and properly maintain an AK. Twelve years later, that AK still amazes everybody that comes to the ranch and shoots it as to how smooth and accurate it is. 99% of all AK’s are ruined by their owners within the first 3 mags.
Where can I find more of this info?
@@menumlor9432 You can't he made it up. Israel hasn't ever officially used AKs, and it doesn't exactly take a "weapons specialist" to know how to operate a weapon designed to be used by uneducated Russian conscripts. You wanna know how you care for an AK? Don't shoot corrosive ammo, and don't throw it into a fire. Boom, most important things right there.
lol what a bunch of BS
How do u ruin an ak with mags? Im curious 😂
AK guy here. The handling characteristics, ergonomics, manual of arms, easier (for me at least) to acquire irons, stupid simple maintenance, and various other aspects make me prefer to anything else.
I'm an AK guy for sure! I don't own an AR but I own a Zastava M70.
I've awesome, isn't it? The WASR10 is always cool, but the ZPAPM70 rocks the house.
@@christopherrobin361 damn Skippy! I got the plain jane stock on it right now, looking at Midwest industries stocks and handguards and peeking at Zenitco too.
@@PaperSlayer93 Cool. I kept the polymer on mine (for now, the variable stock is new one Zastava issues) but Zenitco is something.
I live in Florida and I tend to favor 300blk over over 5.56 because like you said its shorter shots and when you hunt stuff that runs in packs a suppressor shooting subs is ideal. You can also navigate thick brush easier with a smaller gun and still get ballistics capable of dropping deer sized game. Palmetto state armory always has the ammo available and its not to bad if you buy in bulk on sale you can get rounds for about 70 cent a shot. 110 Vmax but my hornady Sub-X are more expensive
So with a 14 1/2 in barrel what 5.56 gr would be perfect to stockpile????
Valid points but it’s all about personal preference. Never had a single failure with any of my AKMs but I have had plenty with my AR.
I know guys who are AK guys and literally the sight of an AR melts their soul and vice versa. I'm a hedger and I like them both a lot for widely different reasons, most of which have to do with nothing technical. I'm hoping never to be in a position to have to use either one for anything other than going to the range, getting to the mountains with my sons, and most of all having useless albeit absurdly passionate debates with other middle aged dudes that have never been in a war or had to protect anyone's life. End of the world, Book of Eli type situation, have to choose one rifle to grab, I'd be insane to choose anything but my AR for the exact reasons in this video.
Outside that, I honestly don't even know why we have the argument AK v. AR anymore. Have to choose one, go with AR, if possible to have both, you're missing out if you don't have at least one AK. When I graduated from high school in 1988 there was some legitimate parity between the two systems. Since Ivan Drago was a thing, neither the Soviets nor anyone else has really done any real innovation on the 47 or 74 platforms or ammo. Partly why I still think AKs remain cool, they're like a time capsule, have that whole Swayze/Sheen Red Dawn vibe to them.
Point about ammo is definitely true. I bought some 5.45 about 5 years back for my AK74 and I've actually watched it appreciate faster than gold past couple of years. It's a great round but it really hasn't moved along at all since 1974. I almost don't want to shoot it because I don't know when or if it will ever be available again so it will probably rot while I choose to shoot the ubiquitous 556 when I can get out and shoot a rifle. It is really a smooth shooting round in some ways better than the 556 but 545 probably going to go the way of the.30 carbine.
I'm an "AK guy", but I choose AR for self defense. I'm an "AK guy" because I just really enjoy them as designs and because they have more "soul" that the AR. Yes, the ARE is more modular, but that's a reason it's just more utilitarian and it makes each one less special. What you are saying here is like "are you really a Porsche /Ferrari guy if you commute in a benz? Of course! Because it's about what tickles your fancy, not necessarily what is the most practical. If I was in eastern Europe, I would probably choose the AK. In America, choosing the AR is a no brainer. Is the AR more accurate? Not enough to matter for my actual martial uses, but it could matter in some situations. Yes, I also prefer 5.45 over 7.67x39...but this is becoming less tolerable because of ammo cost. I am stocked up on 7n6 still, but only for so long. I hope that what is happening is people realizing that AR vs AK was a false dichotomy....it's all about AR AND AK! (and neat abominations that mix the two)
Interesting perspective. I've often thought why I prefer AKs to AR15s, although I don't have a "I'm against ARs now" attitude because of my fascination for AKs. There is a mystique, a "soul" if you will about them I've pondered.
It all comes down to what you’re comfortable with and have the most experience with shooting. The AR has been putting bodies into the dirt for YEARS now. The AK has been putting alot of bodies in the dirt for even longer.
Piston driven is king! You don't have to shoot brass and it will cycle and piston needs less cleaning. I won't own anything but piston driven. I also hate ar controls and placement of the controls. The Galil is extremely accurate and very well built.
I've always liked my AK more than my AR ... it has less parts and to be honest the 7.62 hits harder than the 5.56 😎
Wym 5.56 will do better on armor than 7.62x39
@@DasGoodSoupneither is penetrating good hard armor period so that’s an idiotic statement
@@DasGoodSoup 99.999999% of targets are not armored
@@DasGoodSoupmagnetic 7.62x39 (which is common) has a tendency to break some plates with a double tap. 7.62x39 is also one of the only intermediate rounds I’ve ever seen go through sand bags.
I prefer the AK because I'm a barebones kinda person. I don't use optics as much. My AK eats everything I put through it. Never had a jam. Also prefer the .30 caliber round over the .22 caliber of a AR and frankly I'm not shooting past 300 yards so I don't need anything that pushes past that.
In the 1980’s when we got hooked on ak’s and sks’s they were cheap and the ammo was very cheap .
If you just had to grab a gun and work, no special setup, AK is going to win for me all day. I own both and like the AR for attachments and setups, ergos, less recoil, etc.
I started with the SKS,in the’90s it was a boatload of fun! In ‘19 I got my first AR-15 and fell head over heals in love with it! AR-15 is now my primary “system “ for everything.
I’m an Ak guy but recently became a retro ar15 guy cause inflated ak prices and ammunition prices. Ar15 is cheaper and ammo is cheaper now can shoot brass m193 for 35 cpr . 5.45 is 70 cpr for Tula
Retro ar15s have a cool vibe like Aks do
Ask any vietnam vet, saw combat in the infantry. why they prefer an AK 7.62x39.
But would you take a 7.62x39 AR over an AK?
The .300blackout round out performs the 7.62x39, per barrel length. The case seals better on the 300blk as well. The AK is done, its out dated put it in the history books. The only thing holding the 300blk round is cost. Get the cost down and 300blk will take over everything.
Im about to buy one of those PSA ARKs, their 556 ak that takes AR mags. You get the real last round bolt hold open, you get the speed of the AR reload, with readiness of 5.56/223 and ar mags here, i think it's a better choice than the mutant/mk47.
But i do run my ARs a lot more.
If I have to choose I will go with a AK . AR Rifles they are a little more accurate but in worse escenario the AK is king ! The only flaws of the AK is that the tools to work on it are expensive, in my opinion working on AK make you a real “ GUNSMITH 😎“ not like the AR that is Basically like “Legó “ for big boys ( i love both and build a ton of AR ) .
First I have AR Colt 762x39 upper that can be swapped from a 556 same lower receiver from the 90’s. Then I picked up Zastava M70, simple,solid and fun. ARs have the modular personalization, love me DD 18”. Many are going to short stroke piston. I know it’s a talking point but why not both or one of each please.
I just prefer .30 cal over the ar standard .22 with the 5.56 so my go to is my battle rifle in .308 however I would like to build an ar in .300 blk
Yes. Yes I am an AK guy. I've mentioned many times I feel the AR has two fundamental flaws... difficulty with magazine retention when inserting a full mag on a close bolt, sometimes can be problematic; and if an AR does jam and you can't open the bolt, you can't field strip it and there is no cleaning rod to ram a stuck casing out. These are non issues with the Kalash platform. Is the AR a bit more accurate? Yes. Is it more modular? Yes. Is it more reliable? Depends on the situation. Not all of us are pouring mud into the opening on our AK's... that is not a practical test. It does prove a point, but also it is much less likely to occur than trying to insert a full AR mag on a closed bolt.
I've had multiple AR's and multiple AK's... i've had jams and issues with both of them, but I can always get an AK back up and running much faster than I can get an AR back in the game. Therefor I'll take an AK. AND lets not forget there are plenty of 5.56 AK's so don't say ammo is an issue, because I own a few 5.56 variants. And 7.62 AR's are just.... sacrilege. Silly, frankly. I too prefer the 5.45 round over all three.
I love AKs but for me it's how modular the AR is that makes it a winner. Just mounting an optic on an AK is a pain in the ass.. All the different optic mounting systems, then trying to get it level with your eye and figuring out a cheek weld..
I absolutely loved my AK but in the end I got rid of it simply because where I live in very humid and I am not Forking out the money to stop nature from returning it to dust. I love the 7.62x39. so now I have an all weather mini 30 and a KS47
The problem is we can’t get authentic AKs like we could 10 years ago.
Since imports have been banned, we have boutique shops making AKs.
I might want a PSA ak but I wouldn’t compare it to an older Arsenal.
I got into guns because of AK's. It was the very first firearms I ever shot. AK's will always have a special place in my heart but if I can only have 1 rifle I'll take my LMT defender 14.5" standard a2 front sight post carbine with some FCD goodies and magpul furniture (aside from the LMT sopmod stock which is fantastic)
I own both and I am not ex military or law enforcement just a regular guy who enjoys firearms and I prefer my AR's. I like the ergonomics the light weight the trigger, accuracy etc. of the Ar over the Ak. Now if we were comparing the AR vs the SKS it would be a harder choice. I would still probably go with the AR but dang it I love my SKS.
AR vs SKS not even the same golf course much less par 3
Hey I like my SKS as well!
I remember going to my friends house and his dad had an a ak in a wood glass safe. I fell in love. I've never seen anything so beautiful. First rifle I shot was an AK 47 that's all it took for me.
Hands down one of the best shows to date. This episode is crushing the fuxk outta it! Awesome knowledge bombs and theories dropped.
I have and love my .556 Polish AK. It didnt come out of the box perfect, but after a trip for some polishing runs perfect.
WhT does “mildly corrosive”??? I feel like corrosion either is or isn’t??? Do you have to clean your gun after a day of shooting? Do you get an extra 24 hours? Extra 48? I’m very very curious about corrosion now.
Jesus it amazes me how much they get info about AKs wrong. "Beryl 5.45 AK, specific rare Wolf will attract a magnet.." just a few minutes in and it's laughable.
Magnetic ammo was still pretty common last I checked AND unlike 5.56 and .223, you could still find it during the COVID lockdowns.
@@AFreakinProblem the overwhelming majority of steel case ammo has a magnetic projectile because the jacket is bimetal.
Riding on two on my way back from Florida to North Georgia, Would like to check out the shop.
Let me know where to head,Thanks
Wait till AR guys see that most AKs of reasonable quality are a bit over 1 moa
I think the biggest issue with AK's is that you can't go to the average gun store or pawn shop and buy an AK, because what you will find is probably just a century arms with cast trunnions. I have heard the best new production AK's are PSA's but most AK guys say they are garbage because there aren't blessed by the soul a Mikhail Kalashnikov and caked in cosmoline.
Yeah and any time you find a quality ak in a gun store, its always way above MSRP
Having owned tons of guns I can tell you that mag fitment is terrible on most Ak guns in the us
Shot many ar’s, shot many ak’s… just my experience, but the only bad jams were on the ar platforms.
Perspective from a former “AK guy”, and who would still reach for an AK before an AR in some cases:
When I was a solid “AK guy”, here’s why.
- When I was shopping for my first military-style semiautomatic rifle (2016), like many people, I was debating between the AR in 5.56x45mm or the AK in 7.62x39mm. I polled a lot of my “gun guy” coworkers, many of whom were veterans of Afghanistan or Iraq. Almost unanimously, they recommended that if I were going to have only one such rifle, that it should be an AK. Having been on the receiving end of these weapons, their advice seemed particularly credible.
- Anyone contemplating using such a rifle in some kind of AOLAO scenario should ask themselves, “How far am I really going to shoot?” The answer for most people - including me - is going to be 200 yards or less. This is backed up by research done by the Soviets in WW2 in which they determined that 70% of engagements in which line infantry were using their individual weapons took place within 200 meters. Engagements past 400 meters were so rare as to be statistically insignificant. The result of this research was - you guessed it - the 7.62x39mm round. It really is an excellent all around fighting round for real world conditions; it has proven itself over time. Out to 200 yards it has superior energy to common 5.56 loads (e.g., 55 and 62 grain), and for the first 100 yards it has better energy than even the best 5.56 loads (e.g., 77 grain). Unlike the lighter 5.56 loads, it isn’t easily deflected by brush and does better through obstacles like doors or walls.
- One might say that both the AR and the AK are reliable, but the AK still has the advantage of easier maintenance. It doesn’t need to be cleaned as often and when cleaning is necessary, it is simpler, faster, easier. No teensy weensy parts to lose, no “star chamber”, and no crap all being dumped right into the action by the DI operating system.
But I did acquire an AR in 2021, and have since become, by a narrow margin, an “AR guy” anyway. What changed my mind? Two things:
- With my 20” barrel and 77 grain IMI “Razor Core” ammo, I get the best of both worlds. I get great terminal ballistics, even better than the AK, but also light weight for the ammo, lighter recoil, and long range accuracy/effectiveness if I ever need it. The downside is the cost of that ammo, but as long as I have it on hand, the combination of that rifle and that ammo is my go to first choice if I ever have to participate in the defense of my subdivision.
- A more general advantage of the AR is that it is easier to shoot accurately. AKs can also deliver good accuracy, but it takes more skill and practice, and it is harder to do rapidly. At least for me, I can put down a higher volume of accurate fire with my AR, and I would bet that’s true for most people due to the ergonomics involved. That’s an important advantage, arguably well worth the extra cost in ammo and more time consuming maintenance.
But just speaking for myself, if I were to exhaust my supply of 77 grain 5.56, and all I had left was 55 or 62 grain fodder for my AR, then my preferred choice would be the AK. To that extent I’m still an “AK guy”.
Always loved the AK but only ever had my Wasr-10/63. But I’ve had a very recent AK kick. Grabbed a PSA GF4, Wasr10 and saiga 7.62 hunter that I couldn’t pass up all in the past couple months. My old Wasr-10/63 was finally happy to have some friends after being surrounded in the safe by all my ar’s for so long.
Lets you know how bad your WASR 10/63 sucks comparatively to what is on the market now. Mine is the most over gassed ak I have ever shot, front sight post is driven all the way to the left and it still won't completely zero.
@@charisperissos1320
The gas block on my 63 is canted a little but it doesn’t effect function. Made sure the sights on mine were straight before I coughed up the dough.
Those 10/63s are the origin of why people think aks are not accurate
I have a few AKs in different calibers and a few ARs in different calibers. They're both great platforms and I enjoy shooting all of them. The rifle that's always in my 4X4 when I'm out exploring is kind of a mash up. It's an AR chambered in 7.62x39.
So you picked the worst possible option
Well, that's your opinion. My AR-47 is light and fast. Has been 100% reliable and is plenty accurate in the ranges and situations where I would use it. I wouldn't choose it to shoot in a precision bullseye type competition. But, that's not what I built it for. In the real world, it does everything I want and does them well.
There is a 9-10" cherry tree about 12 yards before the final destination of my 100yd home range. On occasion when one of my guests ( never me!) sends a 7.62 round a foot or so to the left... let's just say that tree has been perforated a few times. Fully perforated.
I have a Zastava AK and a SKS. My rifle of choice is an AR10 in 308 or my SOCOM 16. I do have a good fighting AR15, and a longer range one too.
I honestly like both platforms, that being said I prefer my SKS antiquated as it may be I shoot it very well!!
Does a AM-15 shoot 556 and 762 straight out the box?
ended up getting AR. i looked at both, weighed the pros and cons, and by the time i had the money together, base cost ar15 was around $600, now its less. the aks i could find were over $700; they are worse now. Saving a $100-200 bucks meant i could buy ammo, mags, or other accessories. i got to bulk up before things got stupid.
I feel like the cheap ammo that is available for the ak is what makes it not reliable. With the cheap wolf ammo I noticed the primers are seated too deep in the pocket causing light primer strikes FTF
I kind of the same way. I thoroughly enjoy shooting my 5.56 ak, I enjoy shooting it more than my ar. If it comes down to it I’m grabbing my ar and I do all my serious training with my ar
I would like to see SKS go up against the Ruger mini-30
I feel like this is more an argument of 7.62x39 vs 5.56x45. Not really a good argument for or against the platform. I prefer the AK platform for reliability and simplicity but i like the 5.56 cartridge for most use cases. That preference is made up of two different arguments. The platform and the cartridge you use in that platform. The platform is not specifically defined by the cartridge it was designed to use. There is a big movement in the US with 5.56 AKs because people like that combination and it’s not just because of the import issue.
There are more uses for a gun and cartridge combination than the ability to penetrate body armor.
At what distance would you consider 5.56 to be ineffective for whitetail deer ?
Love ‘em all, just wish 5.45 was more available to the public.