Episode Notes: *As for the weight loss, I made an unclear point: Tom claims Bruce's weight would go down suddenly (and often), and there is no evidence for anything. What we can see is a steady weight loss culminating in his Nov. 1972 visit with Dr. Otto Au. Due to our current insight into Bruce's c##aine habit, we now have a better culprit for the weight loss other than Tom's shooting "diuretics/steroids/cortisone" on the wall and hoping something will stick. *For those of you who asked - I responded in the community section to Bleecker's non-response: www.youtube.com/@TheKungFuGenius/community 🎧 Hey Kung Fu Genius Podcast fans! 🎙 If you love what we do, here are some great ways to support the show: ➡Join us on Patreon for just $5/month to get early access to episodes and enjoy exclusive benefits at higher tiers! Your support means the world to us! www.patreon.com/thekungfugenius ➡Prefer a direct donation? You can contribute via my PayPal at www.paypal.com/paypalme/citywt. Every little bit helps! ➡ Exciting news! My best-selling book “The Wooden Dummy” is back in stock! Grab your copy here: www.citywingtsun.com/shop. ➡Last chance to book for the final 2025 Ultimate Hong Kong Kung Fu Tour! Early bird prices are available until March 31, 2025. Check out the details at www.citywingtsun.com/ultimate-hong-kong-kung-fu-tour. Thank you for your support, and let’s keep the Kung Fu spirit alive! 🤛 Peace, The KFG
Part 3 was awesome just as the other 2 parts! Podcasts on each of the first 3 BL biographies would be cool too as these were published in 1974 and/or 1975 when he wasn't perceived as a non-fault legend as later years.
Fair - except most of those notes have made their ways to private collectors, have been posted, or revealed in other formats. Every time Tom is pressed to show something he almost always shows the stuff that everyone else already has access to . He’s yet to point to anything concrete that hasn’t been revealed yet because he doesn’t seem to have it. Also being married to Linda for two years does not make him an expert about Bruce during a time when Linda didn’t even know him, nor does it, give him a pass on claims without evidence. If these things are true, he can show the evidence he’s making claims.
@8:56 I don’t want to be that guy but if Bolo wanted to attain Lee’s physique, he’d have to do and follow Lee’s meal plan: rice, water, and chicken. This is not my opinion but it is based on the research of Dr. Beardy, who is the official biographer and historian of Bruce Lee.
Slightly off topic... is the ad for the Gong Sau Wong book actually a Dreison Hypothetical? It starts, "What if you could take a trip back through time..." 🤔
Great episode sifu thanks first for breaking this book down and yr rateing is bang on load of crap my copy is now binned didn't buy it when it first came out only now because I heard him on u tube and was curious but you totally ripped this dude apart mann ktf 🙏
Sifu Leung Ting and Sigung Wong Shun Leung has something in common. Anti superstition. Sigung Wong Shun Leung said if there is such a thing called "death touch", then you shouldn't shower forever.
Why is Mr Bleeker not in the comments to defend his book in any of these chapters I wonder? Really enjoyed these breakdown videos Sifu thank you for your continued dedication it’s very much appreciated ❤
Am not a Steroid Truther Mr. Alex, howevahhh, Wintrol was available in the 60's from Bayer(you know where that is) and Primobolan also from Deutschland. Both are dht derivatives, don't bring on bloat, and are used for contest prep. Is this the information Mr. Tom using as evidence?
Thanks for that. Yes, however, the proof that he was using steroids is not forthcoming. There is a lot of “maybe” or “could have” which could apply to nearly any allegation of anything ever. He could’ve been bulimic, he could’ve had a Judy Garland fetish, he could’ve secretly chewed gum and put it inside the purses of random ladies he walked by… The possibility of things are endless, evidence is not. Again, if it turns out that Bruce was on Winstrol, I’ll be the first to announce it, and say that my speculation was wrong. But as someone who’s sent his labs, autopsy reports, and medical records to as many MD friends as I can possibly find… There is zero evidence forthcoming.
Hey KFG : ).. love to listen to you but I have a feeling your not taking into consideration Anavat and Winstrol which was available then. Those two illegal steroids do the opposite of bloating, they harden muscles and keep them from decreasing during cardio exercises. Imagine Lee's genetics, coke, lots of training and Winstrol, you get a beautiful look like you see in ETD. Please research Winstrol. Maybe Lee didn't use them but if he didn't? He would be a fool to use coke and stay away from var or Winstrol. I love Bruce and I don't mind if he took roids or not but for him not to try it in his strong desire of fitness to me is highly unlikely. Don't hate me, I love you guys too lol
Yes, this has been brought up, the only thing that’s missing is the forthcoming evidence. How come none of this stuff showed up in his labs? (Meeting the detrimental side effects of steroids). How come his body did not face a massive overhaul the way Mr. Bleecker claims?
Yes the evidence is missing and so was the evidence for his Cocaine use until the Bob Baker letters came out, without those letters none of us would Ever link Lee to coke. I never drank or smoked but I did experiment with Anavar steroids in pill form and it did not come close to the damage or side effects that are linked with Bodybuilders like Arnold. My experience on low dose Var was tight muscles that did not go naturally flat after a long run, it's like the muscles stayed preserved as the fat came off during long runs, of course I was on a clean diet and did lots of Isometrics training yet my testosterone levels when tested stayed at 500 nanograms. I looked ripped and noticably different! Now imagine Lee on coke, high dose Winstrol Pill form ( which is stronger then Var ), plus his training and strong desire to be at peak shape equals the result you see on ETD. Remember that Var pill form has about a 6 hour life span in your body so it would not come out on tests 7 hours after pill consumption. An extra on Troy claimed Brad Pitt was on Winstrol during the filming of fight Club and look how similar to Lee's body did he come. (There is a video of an extra stating he saw them in Brad's trailer)
Hey Alex, wrote you a looooong message back and I think UA-cam deleted it cause it went into details about muscle enhancing drugs 😫.. So I'll try to water down my response and make it short.. Ok so don't forget that some anabolic drugs are used for cutting while others like you mantioned are used for bulking. ( Bulking =water weight) And ( cutting= dry ripped look ). I have experience with the ones for cutting and can make the argument that Lee may have used them based on my own results. These cutting drugs that I stated earlier come in pill form and have a life span of about 6 to 8 hours inside your body, meaning they won't come up on tests unless you take another pill. I can not give you evidence that Lee used them just like no one could give us evidence that he used "C" until the bob baker letters. Remember Brad Pitt in Fight Club or Troy? Yea, that is the result of cutting drugs taken in pill form, How I know that? Brad's movie extra claimed in a video that he saw them in his trailer, hearsay? Yes but it doesn't make it completely untrue, just unprovable, my point being that you can create such a ripped look like Lee in ETD with cardio, clean diet, isometrics and pills for cutting, this is knowledge based on my own experience. The body without (cutting drugs help) will NOT look like Lee's in ETD did because the muscle would naturally look flatter especially if your getting more and more thinner using "C". Your muscles on (cutting help) will not flaten and will pop out bloat free! and give you that ETD look that I could not achieve naturally no matter how much I tried until I experimented with very low dose (cutting pill help.). Picture this, Bruce lee + training + clean diet + "C" + ( strong dose of cutting pill help) = ( Result) what he looked like in ETD. Once again, I can't prove this but I can tell you not all muscle enhancing drugs create devastating side effects, it all depends on the drug or drugs used simultaneously not to mention the dose levels that they are taken in. The fear of devastating side effects came from the effects on Bodybuilders in the Bodybuilding Industry which has them on more chemicals and different type of test on a given day then you can imagine. Lee did not have to take all that to cut the way he did, he could have easily done that just on Winstrol alone. He was an amazing hard working athlete with charisma that could be compared to Elvis the king himself, drugs alone don't give you that, he was one of a kind, muscle enhancing drugs or not, doesn't matter because it will never take away from the inspiration and hope that he brought to this world. Love that man! When it comes to Tom Bleeker statements? You're the expert so I can't fight you on that hehe.
Thank you for commenting. “Could have” is not evidence. The world of possibilities far exceeds the world of what actually is. Bruce Lee could’ve been bulimic and that would explain his weight loss. As far as the cocaine, yes before the letters out, we didn’t have any evidence and that’s what you do when you don’t have evidence… You withhold claims. My issue is not that Bruce Lee could not have been on anabolics, the problem is that Bleecker’s claims far exceed any evidence. When there is evidence as I’ve said, many times, I’ll be the first to admit it. But this “lack of evidence“ therefore it must be… is literally the logical fallacy called argument from ignorance. Tom made these claims very forcefully in his book, and when asked for evidence, he gets thin skinned and has thus produced none. Yes, you’re right, Bruce could have been on these things, but that is not what Tom wrote. He said unequivocally that Bruce was on these things. Claims must scale with your evidence and that is not the case here. “Science isn’t settled on gravity” does not therefore give a pass to “ therefore ghosts, spirits and psychics could be real”. We have evidence of gravity, we have nothing but BS stories about psychics and ghosts. This is called a false equivalence. “Science isn’t even settled on what the best program is for hypertrophy for all athletes”… “Therefore it’s perfectly logical and plausible that a loving God thinks that humans should pray to him or face an eternity of punishment, even though he only made this revelation in one small part of the earth billions of years after it was created, and decided the best way of communicating this to the world was through a book with discrepant translations and stories that are written lifetimes after the history they purport to discuss”… See how these are not the same things?
So about Gravity? You're correct, we can prove it and did but we can't create it, we simply don't know how to, that is what I was getting at with my last comment, my mistake. About God and the book "Bible"? You're once again correct about your stand point on that but you have to consider that the old definition and explanation of what God is has completely changed, meaning redefined based on Near Death Experience studies done by Skeptic doctors. The research indicates there is an all loving and accepting consciousness or energy that could care less about the bible or church, this consciousness simply loves you and accepts you and is inside everyone, apparently "it" doesn't judge, you judge yourself. I understand that all this sounds like nonsense, hopefully in the future we will have a better understanding as science progresses. When it comes to psychics? Most or possibly 99% are a financial scam, however the 1% may surprise you hehe. Also take into consideration that "science" is not an open field of pursuit to any and all studies. Some scientists can't touch the subject of flying disks without ridicule or even losing their jobs. For further understanding and scientific information on that topic, Google Dr. Steven Greer or be blown away by his infamous recent documentary called " The lost century: and how to reclaim it".
Small correction for your comment - it should read: “Tom has made made a video on his channel” (full stop). He didn’t actually respond to anything I asked him to and he did everything I said he was going to do in the video I published before he published his.
Yes, you’re absolutely right. In Thailand, he was struggling to get good protein and I’m sure the climate there was making him lose a lot of weight on top of the work schedule.
In the age of conspiracy theories , rumor, innuendo and pure bullshit, your 3-part series on Unsettled Matters is a win for those who embrace critical thought.
Bleecker really tried to say that Bruce was out of it while filming GoD lmao even when I was a “small” fan of Bruce, even I had seen those photos of Bruce just demonstrating amazing strength…come on bro! 😂
Also that iconic photo of Bruce wearing jeans and the belt with a cool belt buckle and no T-shirt and sunglasses where he’s looking shredded was during the filming of GOD.
The program AUTOPSY which examines Bruce's death, done by an expert pathologist who looks through all of Bruce's medical history, including the autopsy results , lays the cause of Bruce's death on his back injury and the prolonged use of cortisone. Saying respiratory failure was what ultimately killed Bruce, being a result of the damage caused by cortisone . Bruce had all the symptoms, severe sweeting, change in skin color to a reddening, very low body fat, and memory loss which had been noticed, all problems caused by cortisone overuse, and of coarse fluid buildup in the brain. In todays world they will only let you have 2 doses of cortisone and that's it, no more because they know its bad for the body . Bruce would not of known the dangers of over use, although it may have been the only way he could continue to do his martial arts and his movies after sustaining his back injury.
Yes, I think all Bruce Lee fans saw that TV show at some point. However, there are a number of issues with the outcomes. First of all every proper Bruce Lee fan has a full copy of his autopsy and therefore can have any specialist look at it. In other words, we don’t need to be told by an entertainment show what to make of this. Second, the Cortizone use has never been substantiated, it is in fact an unsubstantiated rumor. His medical record show that he was only using it by prescription for about a year. Mr. Bleecker is the one who created this baseless accusation that he was using it all the time. So therefore to come to such a conclusion about it being Cortizone use is a clear act of confirmation bias. There are a number of ways people can die or suffer similar symptoms or causes. But if there is no evidence of Cortizone use, you can’t just throw it into the mix and be like well maybe so therefore.
@@TheKungFuGenius Yes ,there needs to be evidence, but the evidence may be that he was no longer affected by the back injury to a point. And over use is more than twice, so could still be part of the equation of all the things going on in his life. Its going to remain a mystery that maybe his wife could only answer. And another 50 years of speculation to come.
@@TheKungFuGenius My personal opinion of what killed Bruce, is the Movie ,Enter The Dragon. The effort and the lack of rest and sleep making it, doing everything that he did, sucked the life out of him. When you realize his health problems for a number of reasons then it just took what life he had left. His relentless determination for success burned him out.
Yo Alex I always wanted to know like how much weight bruce can lift I know bruce is powerful and when I did overcoming isometrics years ago when I was 13 I got pretty strong was able to curl 60 lbs on each finger which I think is pretty good idk lol Can you tell me the most amount of weight he can handle in his lifts like bench press, squats bicep curls etc I would think he'd atleast try a few times to see his own limits
You may want to watch my episode with John Little about his training methods. As far as I know, his training logs have not been made public if they even exist at all. Truth is, we don’t know the exact amount of reps/sets/weights beyond a few entries into his daytimers and the Hak Keung gym records.
@@TheKungFuGenius Sorry for the giant wall of text Thanks I will check it out but I'm not talkin about his workout routine I just wanna know whats the most weight he can move in his exercises not his routine No training logs so if he wrote down anything on it it's not public ok so what about his friends and students No one has ever asked him or even seen him attempt a one rep max on any exercise? I got another question there was this one interview with James coburn ( I think his name was) he said that bruce had a 700 lbs heavy bag I have seen that video of him kickin that andre the giant size bag but no where have I heard its weight Do you know how much it weighs? Also i think i suggested u have dan the Wolfman on the podcast did u think about it? If u did are u gonna have him on the future? Last question lol what do u think about doing an episode where u watch wing chun fights and sparring on yt and react them and critique them? Would you do that? If so when? I think it'd be a funny and entertaining episode what say u? I really enjoy your videos if u survived this massive godzilla sized wall of text thanks for readin and replying
@ I’m not sure if anything has, or will. It just odd that not much is known about him. I know Chinese or honorable people, but do you believe he never gave even one interview concerning his death? Or maybe he was more aware of Bruce’s cocaine habit, he didn’t.
Oh, I thought you meant since all the information we already know lol. You should watch my drug letters video and perhaps watch the four parts series on Bruce’s final months.
Well, we know he took drugs. I don't think it's a stretch that he may have taken steroids too, especially since steroids didn't have the negative connotations they have today. Bruce Lee wasn't big, but he was extremely ripped, especially in his later years. I wouldn't say it's impossible to get that level of definition without performance enhancing drugs but it is very difficult.
There is an entire world of possibilities of things he could have done, so by that reasoning, he could’ve had a Judy Garland fetish, could’ve liked to chew gum and stick in an old lady purses, he could’ve been bulimic… It’s not a stretch, right?
@@TheKungFuGenius so much easier to get diet pills (dexedrine = amphetamines) they were not illegal then. easier to take then stick to a strict diet and easier to stick to a diet if you are not very hungry. I don't think Bleecker if full of shit. think of the time and context. roids and meth were not illegal and bruce was driven to use any tool he could. it wasn't illegal.
“Could have” does not equal evidence. This is all confirmation bias until actual evidence is shown. Bruce could have been skinny because he was bulimic. That’s plausible. But that’s not evidence.
Oh SMACK-A-LOO-LOO 😁”Word” 💯😎🤙🏻10:44 It’s funny how people treat Bruce like he’s JESUS pulling off miracles n whatnot just about.” 😆🙏💯15:58 He is the WIGMASTER 😆
It's been proven an professional athlete can use steroids without💪 muscle 🦵 mass. Remember the Lance Armstrong ,the professional bicycling 🚲 🏆 champion who competed in the Tour de France?? He used steroids to increase endurance & stamina. He had a lead muscle build. However, steroids in Bruce's days wasn't like they are today.
That is an apple and oranges comparison. Lance Armstrong was an endurance athlete, and endurance athletes by definition cannot put on a lot of muscle mass. The sheer amount of bike riding makes it difficult to hold onto massive amounts of contractile tissue. And while he also did test for steroids, the main PED he was taking was EPO which was to improve his cardiovascular endurance. This is the reason why a lot of professional bodybuilders stay away from excessive cardio, as they feel that it kills their gains. Long haul steady state stuff as in bike riding is problematic for muscle tissue, although short burst style cardio may in fact help. However, that’s not what Armstrong was doing so we need to be mindful not to compare random stuff to random stuff.
To round out my explanation, the real reason I say that is because although Bruce Lee was fond of doing cardio as in running, his endurance regimen cannot be compared to Lance Armstrong’s. I do not believe Bruce was doing so much cardio that it would’ve affected gains that “steroids” would be giving him
I believe there are 💯% genuine Psychics out there but unfortunately there are fakes as well. I'm not sure about the Psychic who Tom mentioned but it is also possible she *Might* be right but can't say for sure but I keep an open mind. I'm Spiritual and I personally have had good experiences with the psychic mediums I know but there are fakes which spoil it for the genuine ones. I would never dismiss anything or anyone unless I know for sure.
On Bleecker's channel he has one video where he flirts with the idea that they were trying to poison Bruce's tea on the set of ETD.. LOL. He says there are pictures where Bruce kept his drink always near him like on the Capri film because he was paranoid about someone poisoning him.. LOL
There's a close up of Bruce's eyes during the 1st dojo scene in FIST OF FURY aka THE CHINESE CONNECTION where he's scanning the Japanese Judo 🥋 guys. He has severe acne at that point. The oil from marijuana can also be attributed to acne, I read somewhere in a doctor's office years ago. This could have contributed to his acne as well. 🙏✌️☯️👍🐅🐉
Betty Ting Pei and Raymond Chow were the last two people to see Bruce alive, so letting people know Bruce had been sick was just wise. It made them less likely to be suspects if there was a murder investigation, or at least suggested an alternative cause of death besides foul play.
Episode Notes:
*As for the weight loss, I made an unclear point: Tom claims Bruce's weight would go down suddenly (and often), and there is no evidence for anything. What we can see is a steady weight loss culminating in his Nov. 1972 visit with Dr. Otto Au. Due to our current insight into Bruce's c##aine habit, we now have a better culprit for the weight loss other than Tom's shooting "diuretics/steroids/cortisone" on the wall and hoping something will stick.
*For those of you who asked - I responded in the community section to Bleecker's non-response: www.youtube.com/@TheKungFuGenius/community
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Linda : Tom , Bruce was the better lover.
Tom : Revenge, i will destroy Bruce 😂
You guys do a great job of clearing up the bullshit with some real truths and facts, a great watch
Great episode sifu! Keep up the good work! Amazing how you put all the information together! Thank you.
Thank you!
Part 3 was awesome just as the other 2 parts! Podcasts on each of the first 3 BL biographies would be cool too as these were published in 1974 and/or 1975 when he wasn't perceived as a non-fault legend as later years.
Yellow track suit used to hide an emaciated Bruce Lee? Bleecker, please...
My arse
Okay guys, I’m waaaaay behind on my Bruce Lee news!!! But I just heard about this Bleecker B.S TODAY! WTH?!?!
Awesome episode!!! :)
Tom was married to Linda and he went through all Bruce’s notes and books. He should know more than most people.
Fair - except most of those notes have made their ways to private collectors, have been posted, or revealed in other formats. Every time Tom is pressed to show something he almost always shows the stuff that everyone else already has access to . He’s yet to point to anything concrete that hasn’t been revealed yet because he doesn’t seem to have it.
Also being married to Linda for two years does not make him an expert about Bruce during a time when Linda didn’t even know him, nor does it, give him a pass on claims without evidence. If these things are true, he can show the evidence he’s making claims.
@8:56 I don’t want to be that guy but if Bolo wanted to attain Lee’s physique, he’d have to do and follow Lee’s meal plan: rice, water, and chicken. This is not my opinion but it is based on the research of Dr. Beardy, who is the official biographer and historian of Bruce Lee.
Haha
Slightly off topic... is the ad for the Gong Sau Wong book actually a Dreison Hypothetical? It starts, "What if you could take a trip back through time..." 🤔
Very well said & done my friend. Alex Richeor always the victor!
I'm surprised Dre didn't sing the song Automatic 😅
Why are these episodes no longer on iTunes?
Just a little backed up these days. We will get them up.
Great episode sifu thanks first for breaking this book down and yr rateing is bang on load of crap my copy is now binned didn't buy it when it first came out only now because I heard him on u tube and was curious but you totally ripped this dude apart mann ktf 🙏
Thank you!
Sifu Leung Ting and Sigung Wong Shun Leung has something in common. Anti superstition. Sigung Wong Shun Leung said if there is such a thing called "death touch", then you shouldn't shower forever.
😂 love it.
Why is Mr Bleeker not in the comments to defend his book in any of these chapters I wonder? Really enjoyed these breakdown videos Sifu thank you for your continued dedication it’s very much appreciated ❤
Because he thought it would be better to send me a funny email, which I’ll talk about later
Yeah, I’m gonna talk about it shortly
@@TheKungFuGeniusOh no! 😂
Am not a Steroid Truther Mr. Alex, howevahhh, Wintrol was available in the 60's from Bayer(you know where that is) and Primobolan also from Deutschland. Both are dht derivatives, don't bring on bloat, and are used for contest prep. Is this the information Mr. Tom using as evidence?
Thanks for that.
Yes, however, the proof that he was using steroids is not forthcoming. There is a lot of “maybe” or “could have” which could apply to nearly any allegation of anything ever. He could’ve been bulimic, he could’ve had a Judy Garland fetish, he could’ve secretly chewed gum and put it inside the purses of random ladies he walked by… The possibility of things are endless, evidence is not.
Again, if it turns out that Bruce was on Winstrol, I’ll be the first to announce it, and say that my speculation was wrong. But as someone who’s sent his labs, autopsy reports, and medical records to as many MD friends as I can possibly find… There is zero evidence forthcoming.
Hey KFG : ).. love to listen to you but I have a feeling your not taking into consideration Anavat and Winstrol which was available then. Those two illegal steroids do the opposite of bloating, they harden muscles and keep them from decreasing during cardio exercises. Imagine Lee's genetics, coke, lots of training and Winstrol, you get a beautiful look like you see in ETD. Please research Winstrol. Maybe Lee didn't use them but if he didn't? He would be a fool to use coke and stay away from var or Winstrol. I love Bruce and I don't mind if he took roids or not but for him not to try it in his strong desire of fitness to me is highly unlikely. Don't hate me, I love you guys too lol
Yes, this has been brought up, the only thing that’s missing is the forthcoming evidence. How come none of this stuff showed up in his labs? (Meeting the detrimental side effects of steroids). How come his body did not face a massive overhaul the way Mr. Bleecker claims?
Yes the evidence is missing and so was the evidence for his Cocaine use until the Bob Baker letters came out, without those letters none of us would Ever link Lee to coke. I never drank or smoked but I did experiment with Anavar steroids in pill form and it did not come close to the damage or side effects that are linked with Bodybuilders like Arnold. My experience on low dose Var was tight muscles that did not go naturally flat after a long run, it's like the muscles stayed preserved as the fat came off during long runs, of course I was on a clean diet and did lots of Isometrics training yet my testosterone levels when tested stayed at 500 nanograms. I looked ripped and noticably different! Now imagine Lee on coke, high dose Winstrol Pill form ( which is stronger then Var ), plus his training and strong desire to be at peak shape equals the result you see on ETD. Remember that Var pill form has about a 6 hour life span in your body so it would not come out on tests 7 hours after pill consumption. An extra on Troy claimed Brad Pitt was on Winstrol during the filming of fight Club and look how similar to Lee's body did he come. (There is a video of an extra stating he saw them in Brad's trailer)
Hey Alex, wrote you a looooong message back and I think UA-cam deleted it cause it went into details about muscle enhancing drugs 😫.. So I'll try to water down my response and make it short.. Ok so don't forget that some anabolic drugs are used for cutting while others like you mantioned are used for bulking. ( Bulking =water weight) And ( cutting= dry ripped look ). I have experience with the ones for cutting and can make the argument that Lee may have used them based on my own results. These cutting drugs that I stated earlier come in pill form and have a life span of about 6 to 8 hours inside your body, meaning they won't come up on tests unless you take another pill. I can not give you evidence that Lee used them just like no one could give us evidence that he used "C" until the bob baker letters. Remember Brad Pitt in Fight Club or Troy? Yea, that is the result of cutting drugs taken in pill form, How I know that? Brad's movie extra claimed in a video that he saw them in his trailer, hearsay? Yes but it doesn't make it completely untrue, just unprovable, my point being that you can create such a ripped look like Lee in ETD with cardio, clean diet, isometrics and pills for cutting, this is knowledge based on my own experience. The body without (cutting drugs help) will NOT look like Lee's in ETD did because the muscle would naturally look flatter especially if your getting more and more thinner using "C". Your muscles on (cutting help) will not flaten and will pop out bloat free! and give you that ETD look that I could not achieve naturally no matter how much I tried until I experimented with very low dose (cutting pill help.). Picture this, Bruce lee + training + clean diet + "C" + ( strong dose of cutting pill help) = ( Result) what he looked like in ETD.
Once again, I can't prove this but I can tell you not all muscle enhancing drugs create devastating side effects, it all depends on the drug or drugs used simultaneously not to mention the dose levels that they are taken in. The fear of devastating side effects came from the effects on Bodybuilders in the Bodybuilding Industry which has them on more chemicals and different type of test on a given day then you can imagine. Lee did not have to take all that to cut the way he did, he could have easily done that just on Winstrol alone. He was an amazing hard working athlete with charisma that could be compared to Elvis the king himself, drugs alone don't give you that, he was one of a kind, muscle enhancing drugs or not, doesn't matter because it will never take away from the inspiration and hope that he brought to this world. Love that man! When it comes to Tom Bleeker statements? You're the expert so I can't fight you on that hehe.
Thank you for commenting.
“Could have” is not evidence. The world of possibilities far exceeds the world of what actually is. Bruce Lee could’ve been bulimic and that would explain his weight loss. As far as the cocaine, yes before the letters out, we didn’t have any evidence and that’s what you do when you don’t have evidence… You withhold claims.
My issue is not that Bruce Lee could not have been on anabolics, the problem is that Bleecker’s claims far exceed any evidence. When there is evidence as I’ve said, many times, I’ll be the first to admit it. But this “lack of evidence“ therefore it must be… is literally the logical fallacy called argument from ignorance. Tom made these claims very forcefully in his book, and when asked for evidence, he gets thin skinned and has thus produced none. Yes, you’re right, Bruce could have been on these things, but that is not what Tom wrote. He said unequivocally that Bruce was on these things. Claims must scale with your evidence and that is not the case here.
“Science isn’t settled on gravity” does not therefore give a pass to “ therefore ghosts, spirits and psychics could be real”. We have evidence of gravity, we have nothing but BS stories about psychics and ghosts. This is called a false equivalence.
“Science isn’t even settled on what the best program is for hypertrophy for all athletes”… “Therefore it’s perfectly logical and plausible that a loving God thinks that humans should pray to him or face an eternity of punishment, even though he only made this revelation in one small part of the earth billions of years after it was created, and decided the best way of communicating this to the world was through a book with discrepant translations and stories that are written lifetimes after the history they purport to discuss”…
See how these are not the same things?
So about Gravity? You're correct, we can prove it and did but we can't create it, we simply don't know how to, that is what I was getting at with my last comment, my mistake. About God and the book "Bible"? You're once again correct about your stand point on that but you have to consider that the old definition and explanation of what God is has completely changed, meaning redefined based on Near Death Experience studies done by Skeptic doctors. The research indicates there is an all loving and accepting consciousness or energy that could care less about the bible or church, this consciousness simply loves you and accepts you and is inside everyone, apparently "it" doesn't judge, you judge yourself. I understand that all this sounds like nonsense, hopefully in the future we will have a better understanding as science progresses. When it comes to psychics? Most or possibly 99% are a financial scam, however the 1% may surprise you hehe. Also take into consideration that "science" is not an open field of pursuit to any and all studies. Some scientists can't touch the subject of flying disks without ridicule or even losing their jobs. For further understanding and scientific information on that topic, Google Dr. Steven Greer or be blown away by his infamous recent documentary called " The lost century: and how to reclaim it".
Tom has made a video on his channel responding to y'all
Small correction for your comment - it should read: “Tom has made made a video on his channel” (full stop). He didn’t actually respond to anything I asked him to and he did everything I said he was going to do in the video I published before he published his.
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I've read BL lost about 10 pounds during the Big Boss due to the conditions where they were filming. He might never have gotten those ten pounds back.
Yes, you’re absolutely right. In Thailand, he was struggling to get good protein and I’m sure the climate there was making him lose a lot of weight on top of the work schedule.
In the age of conspiracy theories , rumor, innuendo and pure bullshit, your 3-part series on Unsettled Matters is a win for those who embrace critical thought.
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I liked that! Said well.” ☺️
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Bleecker really tried to say that Bruce was out of it while filming GoD lmao even when I was a “small” fan of Bruce, even I had seen those photos of Bruce just demonstrating amazing strength…come on bro! 😂
Also that iconic photo of Bruce wearing jeans and the belt with a cool belt buckle and no T-shirt and sunglasses where he’s looking shredded was during the filming of GOD.
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The program AUTOPSY which examines Bruce's death, done by an expert pathologist who looks through all of Bruce's medical history, including the autopsy results , lays the cause of Bruce's death on his back injury and the prolonged use of cortisone. Saying respiratory failure was what ultimately killed Bruce, being a result of the damage caused by cortisone . Bruce had all the symptoms, severe sweeting, change in skin color to a reddening, very low body fat, and memory loss which had been noticed, all problems caused by cortisone overuse, and of coarse fluid buildup in the brain. In todays world they will only let you have 2 doses of cortisone and that's it, no more because they know its bad for the body . Bruce would not of known the dangers of over use, although it may have been the only way he could continue to do his martial arts and his movies after sustaining his back injury.
Yes, I think all Bruce Lee fans saw that TV show at some point. However, there are a number of issues with the outcomes. First of all every proper Bruce Lee fan has a full copy of his autopsy and therefore can have any specialist look at it. In other words, we don’t need to be told by an entertainment show what to make of this. Second, the Cortizone use has never been substantiated, it is in fact an unsubstantiated rumor. His medical record show that he was only using it by prescription for about a year. Mr. Bleecker is the one who created this baseless accusation that he was using it all the time. So therefore to come to such a conclusion about it being Cortizone use is a clear act of confirmation bias. There are a number of ways people can die or suffer similar symptoms or causes. But if there is no evidence of Cortizone use, you can’t just throw it into the mix and be like well maybe so therefore.
@@TheKungFuGenius Yes ,there needs to be evidence, but the evidence may be that he was no longer affected by the back injury to a point. And over use is more than twice, so could still be part of the equation of all the things going on in his life. Its going to remain a mystery that maybe his wife could only answer. And another 50 years of speculation to come.
using cortisone for one year would be enough to do harm and his low fat levels go back to that period of use, or have i got this wrong.
If the theory works for you, go with it.
@@TheKungFuGenius My personal opinion of what killed Bruce, is the Movie ,Enter The Dragon. The effort and the lack of rest and sleep making it, doing everything that he did, sucked the life out of him. When you realize his health problems for a number of reasons then it just took what life he had left. His relentless determination for success burned him out.
I heard that James Hong has one of those Lo Pan compasses.
I was just re-watching that yesterday!
@@TheKungFuGenius it's all in the reflexes
Yo Alex I always wanted to know like how much weight bruce can lift
I know bruce is powerful and when I did overcoming isometrics years ago when I was 13 I got pretty strong was able to curl 60 lbs on each finger which I think is pretty good idk lol
Can you tell me the most amount of weight he can handle in his lifts like bench press, squats bicep curls etc
I would think he'd atleast try a few times to see his own limits
You may want to watch my episode with John Little about his training methods. As far as I know, his training logs have not been made public if they even exist at all. Truth is, we don’t know the exact amount of reps/sets/weights beyond a few entries into his daytimers and the Hak Keung gym records.
@@TheKungFuGenius Sorry for the giant wall of text
Thanks I will check it out but I'm not talkin about his workout routine I just wanna know whats the most weight he can move in his exercises not his routine
No training logs so if he wrote down anything on it it's not public ok so what about his friends and students
No one has ever asked him or even seen him attempt a one rep max on any exercise?
I got another question there was this one interview with James coburn ( I think his name was) he said that bruce had a 700 lbs heavy bag
I have seen that video of him kickin that andre the giant size bag but no where have I heard its weight
Do you know how much it weighs?
Also i think i suggested u have dan the Wolfman on the podcast did u think about it? If u did are u gonna have him on the future?
Last question lol what do u think about doing an episode where u watch wing chun fights and sparring on yt and react them and critique them? Would you do that? If so when? I think it'd be a funny and entertaining episode what say u?
I really enjoy your videos if u survived this massive godzilla sized wall of text thanks for readin and replying
Has anything new come out about the butler? If not, it’s kind of impressive he didn’t after all this time.
What should come out about the butler?
@ I’m not sure if anything has, or will. It just odd that not much is known about him. I know Chinese or honorable people, but do you believe he never gave even one interview concerning his death? Or maybe he was more aware of Bruce’s cocaine habit, he didn’t.
Oh, I thought you meant since all the information we already know lol. You should watch my drug letters video and perhaps watch the four parts series on Bruce’s final months.
@ I shall! Been nonchalantly binging some of your videos already lol.
Enjoy!
Hearing Dre say "you think you slick!?"....dang, I haven't heard that since early 90s! Triggered some nastalgia hearing that.
He think he fly 😆
I enjoyed this 3 part series, had a good laugh at the regular “I’m not saying” stuff.
Glad you like that!
Is there any chance you could invite Shannon or Robert Lee on the show? 🤞
I bet she would do it. 🤙🏻
No one interested in the real Bruce Lee wants to hear from either of them 😂
@x_LJK_x Robert has real stuff to say, Shannon is corporate fluff.
@@TheKungFuGenius I totally agree with you.
Watching from Torquay in the UK 🇬🇧
Wu negal worked with Chong I itsu. No citation given just trust me
What about Fung Kioto? Haha
Well, we know he took drugs. I don't think it's a stretch that he may have taken steroids too, especially since steroids didn't have the negative connotations they have today. Bruce Lee wasn't big, but he was extremely ripped, especially in his later years. I wouldn't say it's impossible to get that level of definition without performance enhancing drugs but it is very difficult.
There is an entire world of possibilities of things he could have done, so by that reasoning, he could’ve had a Judy Garland fetish, could’ve liked to chew gum and stick in an old lady purses, he could’ve been bulimic… It’s not a stretch, right?
@@TheKungFuGenius so much easier to get diet pills (dexedrine = amphetamines) they were not illegal then. easier to take then stick to a strict diet and easier to stick to a diet if you are not very hungry. I don't think Bleecker if full of shit. think of the time and context. roids and meth were not illegal and bruce was driven to use any tool he could. it wasn't illegal.
“Could have” does not equal evidence. This is all confirmation bias until actual evidence is shown. Bruce could have been skinny because he was bulimic. That’s plausible. But that’s not evidence.
Oh SMACK-A-LOO-LOO 😁”Word” 💯😎🤙🏻10:44 It’s funny how people treat Bruce like he’s JESUS pulling off miracles n whatnot just about.” 😆🙏💯15:58 He is the WIGMASTER 😆
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It's been proven an professional athlete can use steroids without💪 muscle 🦵 mass. Remember the Lance Armstrong ,the professional bicycling 🚲 🏆 champion who competed in the Tour de France?? He used steroids to increase endurance & stamina. He had a lead muscle build. However, steroids in Bruce's days wasn't like they are today.
That is an apple and oranges comparison. Lance Armstrong was an endurance athlete, and endurance athletes by definition cannot put on a lot of muscle mass. The sheer amount of bike riding makes it difficult to hold onto massive amounts of contractile tissue. And while he also did test for steroids, the main PED he was taking was EPO which was to improve his cardiovascular endurance.
This is the reason why a lot of professional bodybuilders stay away from excessive cardio, as they feel that it kills their gains. Long haul steady state stuff as in bike riding is problematic for muscle tissue, although short burst style cardio may in fact help. However, that’s not what Armstrong was doing so we need to be mindful not to compare random stuff to random stuff.
To round out my explanation, the real reason I say that is because although Bruce Lee was fond of doing cardio as in running, his endurance regimen cannot be compared to Lance Armstrong’s. I do not believe Bruce was doing so much cardio that it would’ve affected gains that “steroids” would be giving him
I believe there are 💯% genuine Psychics out there but unfortunately there are fakes as well. I'm not sure about the Psychic who Tom mentioned but it is also possible she *Might* be right but can't say for sure but I keep an open mind. I'm Spiritual and I personally have had good experiences with the psychic mediums I know but there are fakes which spoil it for the genuine ones. I would never dismiss anything or anyone unless I know for sure.
Sorry, psychics are all fake.
@TheKungFuGenius Yeah Sifu, Bleecker & Beerdy needs to hook up. One bad B.L. historian to another
On Bleecker's channel he has one video where he flirts with the idea that they were trying to poison Bruce's tea on the set of ETD.. LOL. He says there are pictures where Bruce kept his drink always near him like on the Capri film because he was paranoid about someone poisoning him.. LOL
I heard the same thing that Bruce Lee used steroids in 60s and 70s. The doctors didn't know how bad steroids is 4 the body back then.
i heard bruce lee drank cow's blood in HK, but that wasn't true either.
There's a close up of Bruce's eyes during the 1st dojo scene in FIST OF FURY aka THE CHINESE CONNECTION where he's scanning the Japanese Judo 🥋 guys. He has severe acne at that point. The oil from marijuana can also be attributed to acne, I read somewhere in a doctor's office years ago. This could have contributed to his acne as well.
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Making statements with no source? That's a bit beerdy 🤣
At least Beerdy has the decency to hide his face.
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Betty Ting Pei and Raymond Chow were the last two people to see Bruce alive, so letting people know Bruce had been sick was just wise. It made them less likely to be suspects if there was a murder investigation, or at least suggested an alternative cause of death besides foul play.
Why would there be a murder investigation?